04 Mar 2016 18:14:13
A lot of people seem to be suggesting we play Moreno left mid. My question is why? His crossing is inconstistent, and not exactly clinical, he's just quick. The only bonus would be his fitness and he'll be good at defending for a left mid. Why not just play a young winger there and not a makeshift winger, ie Ibe markovic (if he stays) ojo for example.


1.) 04 Mar 2016
04 Mar 2016 18:28:59
I don't argue about Moreno but Markovich and Ibe are not an upgrade on him and at leat Markovich prefer to play on the right I think.


2.) 04 Mar 2016
04 Mar 2016 18:30:08
Id try Moreno on the wing at least for the remainder of this season.

Going forward his speed is something we are lacking at present and going forward and he can give the opposition problems.

Take away the need for him to track back and defend and I think he could do well.


3.) 04 Mar 2016
04 Mar 2016 18:42:08
Not sure how he would give the opposition problems, to be honest. I'd just let him run with the ball and inevitably turn it over or fire in a harmless cross.


4.) 04 Mar 2016
04 Mar 2016 18:57:25
how will moreno get a place up top when ibe can't even get a game. I expect the bubble to keep bursting till klopp finally realises who his best players are. At this point players like ibe must have zero confidence especially when he sees his mate sterling playing regularly for man city, and he can't even get into an average liverpool side.


5.) 04 Mar 2016
04 Mar 2016 19:31:53
Question for so called Wiseryan. Who would you like to see as manager of lfc then? You seem to be a massive expert and I presume you know more about football than Klopp.


6.) 04 Mar 2016
04 Mar 2016 19:56:24
Ojo and ibe will benefit from the game time more, especially if it's just for this season as you say.


7.) 04 Mar 2016
04 Mar 2016 20:08:51
Wiseryan - he got many chances and did very little with them. Zero goals and one assist in 34 league games over the last two seasons is a pretty bad statistics. Raheem Sterling scored 7 goals last season and 9 the year before. This is why he was bought for 50M and this is why he plays in City (though I don't think he justify his price and he still doesn't score or create a lot) . Ibe has been one of our weakest players over the last two years and I will not be surprised if he will go in the summer. Nothing to do with confidence just very one dimentional player with poor decision making.

{Ed001's Note - glad you aren't the manager with that kind of assessment, Cristiano Ronaldo was a useless show pony for the first few years of his career. The difference was he was given time and good coaching. You would have thrown him away after his first season with that kind of thinking. Fans like you are why Ibe lacks confidence.}


8.) 04 Mar 2016
04 Mar 2016 20:15:30
Does moreno in a front 3 or as part of the attackig trio behind a striker really make you excited? Not me. He is a terrible terrible defender at left back, why do people think he'll do any better defending when based further up the pitch? His redeeming "skill" is his pace, that's about it.

And as some others have said his crossing is erratic. Lauded a few weeks ago for creating th most chances in our team. bur honestly, if you think back, how many of those do you remember as moments where we scored or even almost scored!?


9.) 04 Mar 2016
04 Mar 2016 20:22:02
I know our front 4 is interchangeable but Coutinho normally plays from the left, which is probably his best position, so what do people suggest doing with Coutinho if Moreno plays left wing?


10.) 04 Mar 2016
04 Mar 2016 21:17:34
I hope you mean when you said on the wing . that's the wing of a plane . shocking player goes forward losses ball turn around flicks his hair then walks back into position . get rid only IMO.


11.) 04 Mar 2016
04 Mar 2016 21:34:43
sorry, I forgot klopp is incapable of making mistakes. He wasnt a fan like us who watch our players each week. Its taken him time to recognise who's quality. he's been manager for about 6 months now. In that time he has iced benteke which I commend. But he's put faith in players I don't agree with because he believes workrate ousts player's with a bit better quality. I feel this leads to an unbalanced average team selection.

When our quality players our fit we look a lot better, but we could still be better. I don't believe in playing a bunch of midfeilders unless they're absolute quality. While I really like continho and firmino, I wouldn't play both at the same time, not when origi, ibe and sturridge are available. clyne and moreno would hardly get a game. I would also replace milner with allen, just ahead of hendo and can. allen is a really creative guy and also breaks up play really well. I know workrate might drop a bit, but the team suddenly becomes a lot more dangerous in my opinion, and workrate becomes less important in our performance. flano, sakho, lovren, clyne is probs our best back four for now. I would replace clyne but I would stick with some consistency for the time being. having players like Skrtel, smith, milner, lucas, lallana, continho/ firmino, Ibe/ origi are good options for resting players. good competition to figure out who's first choice. eventually, I would move players on and use the younger players as competition.

As for sterling, he played every game. he had all the confidence in the world, down to his managers faith in him and his own self belief no matter how bad he played. he even played striker for a while too. I think sterling knows his limitations and plays to his strengths when he can, he has good decision making but lacks the intelligence to be a real game changer, coupled with the fact he lacks ability too. The reason decision making is harder for ibe is because he's actually thinking of ways to go past a player and create chances all the time while sterling always chooses the safe option because he knows he's incapable, ability wise and intelligence wise, so he naturally makes less mistakes. I believe ibe given that same chance as sterling being striker, he would be able to adapt and make us much more dangerous, a lot more than I can say for sterling, I barely consider him a good winger/ attacking mid tbh. I think Ibe has pace and power like sterling but with a lot more intelligence. he's also slighlty better ability wise too. Right now ibe is clearly lacking confidence. so yeah, the reason sterling got goals was because he was playing with suarez, sturridge. and in his second season, he was practically our striker. I have a feeling Ibe will shine at another club were he feels wanted, eventually getting a move to a bigger club and he will be a one who got away. It kinda already looks like he wants out tbh.


12.) 04 Mar 2016
04 Mar 2016 22:02:51
A stupid suggestion and even more silly argument if I'm honest, ibe will improve hugely over the summer and hopefully Moreno moved on and as for markovic honestly I would prefer to see him sold and wish him the best as he's a decent player but not the standard we need, we need a better winger than him.


13.) 04 Mar 2016
04 Mar 2016 23:10:42
Why suddenly, are people trying to push a pathetic excuse of a defender in Moreno forward? The guy is nothing but a true headless chicken who can't shoot, can't cross, can't tackle and can't even head a ball for fear of getting his hair or makeup messed up. They guy is pants and needs to get gone instead pushed forward to do what exactly, no one knows.


14.) 05 Mar 2016
04 Mar 2016 19:01:18
At best Ibe has been bad all season, no where near as good as sterling.


15.) 05 Mar 2016
04 Mar 2016 21:26:02
That's my point really ed, what's the point in keep playing a player who probably won't last with us, especially at left mid when we can give the time to Ibe or ojo who will benefit more and produce more probably.

{Ed001's Note - to allow Smith to gain experience. Moreno is here for the season, putting him in a different position showcases versatility which increases sale value as well. I have seen people suggest Milner, but Milner is playing well because he has freedom to roam, why would you want to take that off him?}


16.) 05 Mar 2016
05 Mar 2016 04:25:44
There is so much Milner bashing. He has done a really good job on the whole for us throughout the season, consistent solid performances. He has the experience we want on and off the pitch. Seeing as we don't really have good natural wide players I am not against sometimes playing Moreno up there with Smith in behind, especially if you want to give Coutinho some rest time.
The suggestion that Ibe has been bad is ridiculous. Last year most people were saying he had a better future than Sterling in the longer term due to his directness and powerful running. He clearly needs coaching time, guidance and game time, just as Ronaldo and Sterling had.

{Ed001's Note - not sure I would use Sterling as an example, he has done nothing over the last two seasons. Being hooked at half time was just a cumulation of repeatedly poor performances. Ibe has had coaching guidance, spending the summer working with Kenny Dalglish not least of that. The issue is that it takes time for the coach's guidance to become a natural movement. Sometimes it can just be a case of it suddenly clicking out of the blue, when a player finally understands exactly what the coach has been saying and why. Ronaldo is an excellent example, as is Neymar. Both showed real improvement all of a sudden after years of offering little. They were both just show ponies until it clicked and they suddenly realised that a trick should always have a purpose to it, not be for the sake of it. For Neymar it happened when Messi was out injured and he was forced to take responsibility. Ibe, I believe, is of a similar ilk, he needs the responsibility to bring out the best in him.}


17.) 05 Mar 2016
05 Mar 2016 09:18:29
Ed001 I so agree with you on ibe think there is a sensational powerful player inside him and I do think if klopp can play him up top central it will push his development on no end. With all the bashing he gets no wonder his head drops when he misplaces a pass etc it's not helping I often wonder when us fans changed from supporting young players on the pitch to moaning and groaning during a game it's disapointting. Ed can you remember when it changed for example when Jamie carragher broke into the first team the support he got was first class and he learnt very quickly now at the games especially at home it's all groans it really pisses me off
Up the pool.

{Ed001's Note - seriously? Carra got a lot of stick mate.}


18.) 05 Mar 2016
05 Mar 2016 09:30:42
Rose tinted glasses maybe but you know what I mean it's just groan and moaning rrrrrrrrrrr
Up the pool.


19.) 05 Mar 2016
05 Mar 2016 11:03:40
if I remember rightly carra started his career in midfield and got plenty of stick, not sure which manager decided to play him in defence, I think he started at right back before he became a centre half.

{Ed001's Note - he did play a few times in midfield for the first team. Scored against Villa if I remember rightly from there.}