13 Aug 2023 07:49:16
Don't shoot the messenger but I've heard through a few sources that Klopp is angered by the Caicedo and Lavia situation and wants our next deal wrapped up quietly and without fuss, not a public monstrosity like these 2 deals.
Expect us to go all in for Florentino Luis who I believe has a very high release clause around 100m.
That'll be it for our transfer dealings but personally I'd be happy with Luis, he doesn't have PL experience but he looks absolutely class.


1.) 13 Aug 2023
13 Aug 2023 08:39:22
I think we all want that too.

That’s not a difficult message to read.

Thanks.


2.) 13 Aug 2023
13 Aug 2023 08:39:34
Klopp will not be angered when all there is "Chlesea will tabled an offer, Chelse will push for, Chelsea finalising offer, Chelsea blah blah. " Caiciedo is coming.


3.) 13 Aug 2023
13 Aug 2023 08:45:54
3rd day now and still nothing. Never seen anything like it.


4.) 13 Aug 2023
13 Aug 2023 08:59:53
We didn’t think Lavia was worth the asking price Southampton quoted and then we acted fast with Caicedo and the club did everything in their power to sign him and agreed a deal with Brighton only for Chelsea to come again after the deadline set by Brighton and the player preferring that move, don’t think we’ve done a lot wrong personally.


5.) 13 Aug 2023
13 Aug 2023 09:25:56
I read that FSG are here to persuade Klopp to stay as initially he wanted to leave at the end of this season but now he wants to go immediately unless he gets the support, hence the Caicedo bid.


6.) 13 Aug 2023
13 Aug 2023 09:26:05
With the clubs effort on Moises. It was late. The club were trying to negotiate with a player who had made his choice a long time ago.


7.) 13 Aug 2023
13 Aug 2023 09:15:28
Very disappointing few weeks if we fail to get either of our first two DM targets and it’s not looking likely. Not great for whoever comes in now either, clearly low down on our list of priorities.


8.) 13 Aug 2023
13 Aug 2023 09:37:59
Maybe I'm wrong, but from what I have read, LFC were given the impression that if they bid for Caceido he would be open for the move, so they did. Caceido then decided he wanted to stick with Chelsea. Not seeing an issue.

LFC bid up to what they thing Lavia is worth and no more. Not seeing an issue.

Pundits who let's be fair never actually excelled at being managers calling us embarrassing for bidding and trying to sign good players. Players like any employee are allowed free will to choose where they go. That's like Tesco and Waitrose going after the same employee but them choosing Tesco, the only difference is the supermarkets or journalists wouldn't plaster it over social media.


9.) 13 Aug 2023
13 Aug 2023 09:47:02
Kwkhong, that's a good rumour, I like that one.


10.) 13 Aug 2023
13 Aug 2023 09:53:18
Speculation of course Ed002, but do you think it will take full release clause to get Florentino out of Benfica?

For me he is far more risk than Caicedo hence I would expect Liverpool would not pay 100m. Don't get me wrong. I like him from the little I ve seen but I'd be looking closer to the 60/ 70 million mark for him.

With all these crazy prices, perhaps we should go back and match Chelsea's Lavia price. I do like that we don't see any statements/ noise out of him this window. Seems like he has a good head on his shoulders. Let's see on that front I guess but interested in you thoughthts on what Florentino would likely cost. Fully realise it would be merely educated speculation on your part.

{Ed002's Note - Benfica have no interest in selling Florentino Luis unless his buy out clause is met or nearly matched - and that was the message given to another Premier League side who were interested. The release clause is €120M.}


11.) 13 Aug 2023
13 Aug 2023 10:03:24
I can see Klopp replacing Ancelotti next season after this pantomine.


12.) 13 Aug 2023
13 Aug 2023 10:04:53
RedA you're right, they'll probably be poor distant choices. Much like salah, who was the third choice after Gotze and Brandt.


13.) 13 Aug 2023
13 Aug 2023 10:06:26
well, the only Liverpool person I’ve seen say anything publicly about our bid for Caicedo is Klopp.


14.) 13 Aug 2023
13 Aug 2023 10:48:31
another rumours klopp leaving, Jesus some people fall for it every time, a rumour from twitter.


15.) 13 Aug 2023
13 Aug 2023 11:11:05
To be fair to Klopp he only said a deal had been agreed with Brighton, but added we’re not interested in a deal we want the player. So I think he knew he was going to get asked about it and gave an honest answer, one which actually pretty much covered all the bases. If I was Klopp I would have steam coming out of my ears with the MC camp as there’s no way we would have bid without checking he was interested in the move.

{Ed002's Note - This is pretty much business as usual - you are making a huge deal about a player opting for another club.}


16.) 13 Aug 2023
13 Aug 2023 12:18:34
Klopp has said he is going to take a year’s sabbatical when his current contract ends and then he’ll assess the situation. His comments are a matter of public record.


17.) 13 Aug 2023
13 Aug 2023 12:20:04
I have always loved LFC, but i try not to be blind about the fact that over recent years, at least, we have been able to bully smaller clubs and while i am frustrated we seem to be dicking around in the transfer market, its kind of nice to see a smaller club stick to their demands, likely due partly to being treated with less respect than they should have by clubs like LFC previously. I do hope we get a couple of players in quickly though, but if we don't, give the young guns more of a run out.


18.) 13 Aug 2023
13 Aug 2023 13:36:56
My god people like to dramatise everything. I'm sure Klopp is annoyed at the whole media circus, but he's well aware it's just part of the show that is football, and isn't against using it himself if suits. We tried to sign a player, stumped up the fee, the player said sorry I have my heart set on another team. Fair enough. I don't know why Klopp would have any reason to be angry with anyone within the club. He runs the club.


19.) 13 Aug 2023
13 Aug 2023 14:11:50
Am I the only person who isn’t completely pessimistic about this? Of course it would have been good if Caicedo come in, but we were late to the table with this one. It’s hardly a saga or whatever the media are reporting it as with Lavia, we valued him at a certain amount and were in negotiations. We haven’t been a “shambles” or a “pantomime” and Caicedo is not a mercenary for wanting to go to a club that has been trying to sign him since May. People need to get over themselves and stop reading the media and believing stuff on twitter. It’s hardly a trusted source, it’s just silly people’s opinions.


20.) 14 Aug 2023
13 Aug 2023 23:44:01
Colin - I'm with you, but typically not pessimistic about most things lol. Some of the fanbase have taken themselves back to pre-FSG times. I get that, but for me we are in a far stronger position to bounce back from a season like last than we have at that time.

I like where we're at and am looking forward to see whoever it is we bring in to the club before deadline. if it's no one, then let's go on and smash it with who we have. We brought on two thoroughbreds in Elliot and Jones today and we didn't have Baj or thiago on the bench. So with that base, we can only build on it and get better and I won't be wasting energy getting depressed until new players come in!