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18 May 2016 22:37:52
Hi eds,

Big supporter of your work. Thanks for all the updates.

I am the first time poster. Just a short message for my fellow disappontend and sorrowful reds, disappointment is immense but we live to fight for another day. We will and for surely to come back stronger the next season. Sky is the limit and we are Liverpool. We will never walk alone.

P. S after loss my wife thinks I am a psyco and need a specialist. I just have never been able to make her understand what it's like to support Liverpool. Hoping for more exciting times in the next year, 22 years of support is just not diminishing. Proud to be a Liverpool supporter and hopefully I will have many opportunities to be happy for my truely first love I. e LFC. Think red, live being a red n support red.

Thanks and cheers
Northindian red from India.

{Ed002's Note - Thanks for the post Northindian and welcome. A difficult day as you know. A few changes in the summer and perhaps the coach taking a look at himself and I am sure there will be an improvement next season.}

1.) 18 May 2016 23:06:25
Ed, in what aspects do you think Klopp needs to take a look at himself?
Personally I think you could see we were letting them through the midfield too easily and too often, you could see the goals coming and he waited too long to change things- and he should have subbed coutinho first.
But like all of them, he'll learn from tonight.

{Ed002's Note - The running after people until they give the ball away or are fouled system (the well named kopflose huhn style of play) that exhausts players in the first half was found out some years ago - hence he has won nothing for some years. He needs to adapt and have better options - he needs to pick players on criteria other than running really quickly - which has been pointed out on many occasions. A good coach and generally a likeable guy - but somewhat tactically naive.}

2.) 18 May 2016 23:07:54
So true ed 002. Jk is the best thing that has ever happened to LFC in a long time. I just hope he realises that left back position is a no joke. He finds a solution to fill in the gap and not leave anything for a chance. Alberto moreno is a joke of a left back and i have no more words to describe him. I trust in klopp n hope he breaks his jjnx of finales losses n I ong with the flow reds don't have to endure the frustrating losses in the finlas anymore beyond tonight's loss. Just a frustrated lfc supportet. Cheers.

{Ed002's Note - I understand man. Enjoy the summer and the rumours. They need to get over tonight, and a couple of matters being dealt with tomorrow, get away for what break they can and then most of the players have a busy summer. As long as Klipperty never mentions the words "I never had a proper pre-season with my players" as an excuse, a good opportunity next year to get in what will be a tough mix.}

3.) 18 May 2016 23:22:57
Thanks for the eds2 version of a Klopp hug, on wards and upwards hey, without the lows there'd be no highs.

4.) 18 May 2016 23:24:21
Apologies Ed002, I posted a reply earlier asking where you think Klopp needs to look at himself, but I typed Ed001 by mistake.
I'm honestly interested in your viewpoint.

{Ed002's Note - See above.}

5.) 18 May 2016 23:26:39
Sorry for my pathetic English. Just been too high to drown out another sorrow within 3 months. Cheers.

{Ed002's Note - Your Englsi is better than anyone from Liverpool NI. Please don't apologise for such things.}

6.) 19 May 2016 00:05:51
anonymush: spot on mate (someone who actually sees the game) . I love klopp but Unai Emery is tactically superior to him. can and milner were struggling from the start and giving away fouls every other minute - how klopp didn't see this is beyond me. Hopefully, (like Ed002 said) he learns from this and we improve next season.

7.) 19 May 2016 00:10:50
Aaaarrr eh, that's not fair :)

8.) 19 May 2016 00:40:08
Klopp has won nothing for some years because Bayern built arguably the best club team in the world, particularly by pinching some of Klopp's best players.

Tonight had nothing to do with players being 'tired'. They just bottled it. It's as simple as that.

{Ed001's Note - to be fair, it doesn't help when the other team are allowed to play with rush keepers, it was a big advantage for them.}

9.) 19 May 2016 05:12:58
What do you mean ed?

{Ed001's Note - rush keepers is when any player near the ball is allowed to act as keeper. They were clearly playing under those rules judging by the number of clear handballs they got away with that the ref plainly saw and decided were ok.}

10.) 19 May 2016 05:53:06
Ah right. Yeah I'm always reluctant to blame referee decisions, but my god, you'd think at least one of those 2 penalties would have been a goal, 2-0 at half time, lots of momentum into the second half. I know we've blown 2-0 leads countless times, but at least having the residual 1 goal buffer in a final would have enabled more composure to settle down and continue on our good work from the first half. Also, do you think that non-offside call was correct?

{Ed001's Note - I want to check, as I am so bunged up and was not really 100% sure, did the initial pass come from one of our players or one of theirs? The replays focused on whether Moreno deflected it, which is irrelevant. It is only relevant whether he was offside or not when the initial ball was played. If he was offside then, the goal should not have stood, regardless of deflections, they are irrelevant, because the moment a defender went for the ball they were playing him offside and making him active, as they are attempting to clear it because he is behind them.}

11.) 19 May 2016 06:02:47
Haha I like that. Rush keepers. So true.

12.) 19 May 2016 06:08:39
Ed, I don't think the goal should have stood. He was offside when the ball was initially played, but was in an onside position after it flicked Moreno. In what universe is that onside?

{Ed001's Note - in a universe where the ref was changing his decisions to suit Sevilla (and UEFA). Having said that, it was not why we lost, the players were not good enough and that was the real issue. Can you imagine Souness or Hansen or Dalglish folding like that when decisions went against them? They would have grown another foot and played harder and run faster and improved.}

13.) 19 May 2016 07:47:58
To be fair to the ref in that decision for their 3rd goal, he was right.

Its not that it flicked Moreno, its that the 'pass' to their player was from Coutinho. He kicked it, it flicked Moreno and ended up with their player to cross for Coke to score.

Ref was to blame for not giving at least one penalty, and we were unlucky with our offside goal (if Studge had not gone for it, if their LB had been a fraction further bact etc), but he was right to let their 3rd stand.

As for Ed001's last comment, I can't remember watching any of Souness, Hansen or Dalglish playing with 3 feet, but it certainly would've given them quite the advantage in the dying minutes of a game! Is that why they were nicknamed clever dicks? ;)

{Ed001's Note - that is because they never got into this kind of position or you would have seen the third foot....}

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18 May 2016 23:26:39
Sorry for my pathetic English. Just been too high to drown out another sorrow within 3 months. Cheers.

{Ed002's Note - Your Englsi is better than anyone from Liverpool NI. Please don't apologise for such things.}

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18 May 2016 23:07:54
So true ed 002. Jk is the best thing that has ever happened to LFC in a long time. I just hope he realises that left back position is a no joke. He finds a solution to fill in the gap and not leave anything for a chance. Alberto moreno is a joke of a left back and i have no more words to describe him. I trust in klopp n hope he breaks his jjnx of finales losses n I ong with the flow reds don't have to endure the frustrating losses in the finlas anymore beyond tonight's loss. Just a frustrated lfc supportet. Cheers.

{Ed002's Note - I understand man. Enjoy the summer and the rumours. They need to get over tonight, and a couple of matters being dealt with tomorrow, get away for what break they can and then most of the players have a busy summer. As long as Klipperty never mentions the words "I never had a proper pre-season with my players" as an excuse, a good opportunity next year to get in what will be a tough mix.}