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22 May 2017 15:02:36
Did anyone else see Klopps reaction to Clyne at the final whistle yesterday?
Smiles and hugs as usual from the boss to all and then when he sees Clyne it's just a cursory handshake and Clyne wasn't exactly falling over himself when he saw him. I knew there were issues in the past but is this a sign of something or am I just reading too deeply in to it?
On that point any interest from us in Walker at rb?
Thanks to all the eds for their hard work. it's going to be a busy summer for you
YNWA.

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22 May 2017 21:50:38
I noticed this and said the exact same thing. Least I wasn't the only one who noticed it.

23 May 2017 05:55:21
Its a very badly kept secret that Klopp does not rate Clyne at all. He is gone this summer of we can find a buyer. Periera seems the most likely replacement.

21 May 2017 20:31:13

Is Lucas definitely going or is there a chance he will stay?

{Ed025's Note - unfortunately there is a chance he might stay..

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21 May 2017 20:36:18

Unfortunately Ed? Care to elaborate?

{Ed025's Note - well if i was a red benny i would want to see the back of him asap, he is a liability for me mate and an accident waiting to happen..

21 May 2017 21:15:54

Each to their own and all but IMO he's a very reliable holding midfielder who helped us turn around a bad patch of form earlier in the season. He's a no thrills player that is under appreciated because his job isn't to score big goals or get assists but to keep possession and regain the ball, yes it's not exciting but it's a vital part of the game.

{Ed025's Note - no frills player more like mate, you need to be shopping at sainsburys now and not putting up with players from kwik save.. :)

21 May 2017 21:49:26

Lucas has been an outstanding professional and I think your being harsh Ed25 is it because he kept your attack in his back pocket last match lol?



On a serious note great guy and a solid prem player does has a mistake but has been excellent for us and deserves credit and a testimonial should he go.



YNWA Lucas always part of the family now!

{Ed025's Note - there are times when a cow stops producing milk though bobby and so they send him to the butchers....bloody hell im turning into eric cantona.. :)

21 May 2017 21:57:13

I agree and his time should be now go on a high and be regarded well!

{Ed025's Note - i fully agree mate..

22 May 2017 00:11:06

I agree with the ed on this one. Lucas has never been good enough and has been fortunate to be at the club at all never mind for 10 years. Lovely bloke but bang average player and that's being kind.

22 May 2017 01:08:53

Ed is right. Lucas, despite loyalty is an average player.

22 May 2017 02:50:48

Hello,

I want Lucas to stay. He is helpful squad player. Next year more games and injury concern. Even SG want him to stay. Please FSG give him new contract.

22 May 2017 05:56:35

Lucas is a fantastic presence in the club, a faithful servant and a very useful footballer. I'd be happy if he stays but he should not be a regular starter IMO but to add cover if required and only in very specific circumstances which won't expose his weaknesses.



With regards to his talent, he's clearly exposed by pace at times, which makes his inclusion a potential weakness in a high press system, however he has proven on many many occasions when he's in a structured, deeper lying defense, he can be extremely effective at using all his experience to Marshall the team shut dangerous teams out. He's also a useful sub a CB but again best against sides that don't have a fast breaking counter attacking game that can get in behind.



Either way if he does leave, then he deserves all the accolades he will get for what he's done for the club.

22 May 2017 07:11:31

Hey Ed i don't know were you get off over Lucas but without some of his performances in the latter half off the season we wouldn't be in the CL furthermore a couple of his passes have led to goals that have got us 3 pts Firmino's and Can's to name but 2 also his displays at the back i gave him the nickname the Hoover as he cleaned up everything at the back including vital headers which should have been cleared by Lovren or Matip and lastly i would like to point out had he played in the last World Cup the Germans would'nt have scored 7.

{Ed025's Note - its all about opinions i suppose phil, for me he is slow, poor in the air and gives fouls away constantly which puts an already shaky defence under even more pressure, hes been half decent i suppose but now the CL beckons and if the progress you have made is to be continued then weaknesses like him have to be weeded out, its ok to have these red tinted glasses and think that every player who plays for liverpool is a "worldie" but the truth is you need to ditch some of the dutch elm mate, on a side note the reason lucas never played in that brazil thrashing is that he was deemed not good enough and that tells me everything i need to know..

22 May 2017 07:16:33

Ed025's Note - "there are times when a cow stops producing milk though bobby and so they send him to the butchers"





Him? Milk? .!

{Ed025's Note - its an analogy that when something loses its usefulness then its time to end the love affair, the great eric cantona made a similar one in his "seagulls following the trawler"speech ...try and keep up mate.. :)

22 May 2017 08:16:47

I understand analogies: But if that's a bull, it ain't milk.

:-P.

{Ed025's Note - i have to admit killingholme farming is not my forte, some might say that "bull"is though mate.. :)

22 May 2017 10:53:52
Ed025's opinion about Lucas' ability sounds more like a brief description of every Everton midfielder's shortcomings except maybe Gana.
Just kidding Ed025. But u lot are at least 4-5 seasons away from competing for a top4 place. Take Lukaku and Barkley (when on form) out of that side, and I see a mid table side at best. I'd take Southampton's team everyday over Everton's.
Again, just bantering. Don't take offense.

{Ed025's Note - i never take offence over a little bit of friendly banter buzzer, im hoping that the money we receive from any out-goings will be invested in the team and then some, it will be a new look everton next season and i have to say im very excited about it mate, we will be on your coat tails from the get go..be afraid,,,be very afraid.. :)

22 May 2017 18:42:20
Still at least 5 years behind Ed025.

{Ed025's Note - i have got your name written down supermane...or should i say doubting thomas, and i will be back here next year (god willing) and i will remind you what you have said..i will also be purchasing a very large hat for you to snack on to go with your humble pie mate.. :)

23 May 2017 05:54:06
At least 5 years is also assuming they hold onto the one or two decent players they have. The big boys will be hovering over any decent player that has a good season for Everton and that player will leave in a flash.

21 May 2017 22:19:26

Weve got Dolberg Keita the Ox and VVD All done.

{Ed025's Note - lay off the cheese alan.. :)

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21 May 2017 22:30:31

Heard several murmurs similar to what you've said, hopefully you're right.

{Ed025's Note - i heard that as well sakho...but now the guy has been captured and locked up for his own safety.. :)

22 May 2017 01:08:12

Forsberg or Dolberg?

22 May 2017 07:54:42

Silly season has started then?

{Ed025's Note - its in full swing it looks like flash, messi and ronaldo will be next mate.. :)

22 May 2017 10:21:41
Well it's all said and done. We're back to where we belong (well, almost)
As I stated back in November. This is a make Or break transfer window for us. Kloop cannot and I repeat cannot make the same mistake Rodgers did after qualifying for ucl.

Rule number 1 for kloop.
Do not sell any of our starting 11 and that includes coutinho. Do Not sell simple as. Why am I saying this? What happened after selling Suarez at the end of 13/ 14. We all know the answer to that. Thing is we can not expect LFC to move forward if keep on offloading our best players. Second reason is, how can we expect to attract top top players if keep on selling the best we already have?

Rule number 2.
Enough of buying potential (we already have enough of those)
Buy ready made players if we want to compete at the highest level. I know it's sad but unfortunately that's modern football for you. What did we learn after the end of 13/ 14 season with the purchase of markovic, Balotelli and list goes on?
We should atleast try and put in respectable bids for the top players and you never know it could come off good.

You see people there's a reason to why we learn history in school. SO THAT WE CAN LEARN FROM IT! and i hope the powers that be in LFC don't make the same mistake.

Cheers everyone #backwherewebelong.

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22 May 2017 00:22:59
Here's to an exciting summer I can't wait to see what buisness we do now we're back where we belong

YNWA.

{Ed007's Note - You won't know if you're in the CL until a week before the window closes, do you think all these players demanding CL football will wait till then?}

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22 May 2017 09:26:04
Where in the champions league right now Ed007 we have an early game to place to get to the group stage but I wouldn't want a player to come to our club just for champions league anyway. Like Klopp says we want players to push the train not jump on when its moving!

{Ed007's Note - It's squeaky bum time until the qualification happens though. How do you think I feel, Celtic's first qualifier is played on the 11/12 of JULY!!

22 May 2017 13:12:23
Squeaky bum time not started yet 007, unless you are a Utd fan whose team is to face a talented Ajax side, that is. Meanwhile our players will be winding down and getting refreshed and reloaded for another pivotal season.

{Ed007's Note - That'll make Ajax the third talented side Utd will have faced this season after Chelsea and Spurs. Perhaps that's why English teams have been a bit of a red neck in Europe for a good few years now - the league's not strong enough. It'll be good experience for Utd to play against a quality side like Ajax and they might learn something from it.}

22 May 2017 16:53:19
Not exactly true Andy, our squad is off to Australia.

23 May 2017 08:30:31
Hopeful2, kindly don't spoil a good argument with inconvenient facts! Ed007, shows how far utd have regressed under the not so special one that they need to park the bus against teams who they don't regard as talented.

{Ed007's Note - You don't need to bad mouth Jose's tactics to me, Andy. I'm still bitter about the way his Porto side dived and cheated to beat Celtic in the UEFA Cup final 14 years ago.}

21 May 2017 23:01:46
Take Lukaku's 24 goals away from 7th place Everton, and they would finish. 7th!

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21 May 2017 21:14:55
* = teams who need to play a third-round qualifier.

Champions League playoff seeded clubs: Sevilla, Napoli or Roma, Dynamo Kiev*, Ajax*, Liverpool

Unseeded clubs: Sporting Lisbon, Viktoria Plzen*, CSKA Moscow*, Club Brugge*, Steaua Bucharest*, Young Boys*, Hoffenheim, Nice*, Istanbul Basaksehir or Besiktas*, runners-up in Greece.

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21 May 2017 22:56:54
Potentially a tough game in there for us.

22 May 2017 09:52:24
I would not want to play hoffenheim extremely talented team there manager is the next top manager amazing what he has done there.

21 May 2017 18:48:12
Karma, for me, would be a succesful 30m bid for Alexi Sanchez.
How I would laugh.

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21 May 2017 19:04:46
£40,000,001.

21 May 2017 19:20:29
Or just forget about Sanchez moving to Liverpool. Simple.

21 May 2017 10:50:07

Are we actually looking at Demarai Gray as an alternative too Brandt?



Cheers,

{Ed002's Note - I understand that previous interest of Liverpool, Spurs and Everton remains.}

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21 May 2017 11:31:57

If it's an alternative that's not good enough. Think he's got potential, but we have that, he won't improve the 11.

21 May 2017 11:56:55

Would rather we gave Wilson, Ojo and Woodburn the shot.

21 May 2017 11:15:53

Thanks ed,



Wouldn't he be really expensive?

21 May 2017 13:38:47

Oxlade Chamberlain, Keane, Gibson, Gray. Most underwhelming transfer window ever. It's like the owners don't actually want to compete.

21 May 2017 14:22:16

Mr Dennis, owners don't pick the players lol?



Klopp and he scouting team do.

21 May 2017 15:40:15

Yeah but they set the budgets and employ the committee that selects the players.

21 May 2017 17:29:12

Considering Gibson and Keane as a pair would likely cost 50m +, they would hardly represent bargain options. That's close to 100m of players.

21 May 2017 17:41:34

That's if you believe the rubbish that gets spouted before the transfer window is even open. Mr Dennis has given up before we even got started.

21 May 2017 17:58:06

Gibson and Keane are seriously over rated.

21 May 2017 18:26:22
Do you realise that none of our full backs scored a goal from open play? Or am I wrong?

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21 May 2017 19:43:01
You are correct. Shocking statistic that.

22 May 2017 10:39:48
i don't remember any center back scoring many either. i think lovren scored 1 and that is that!

22 May 2017 10:50:49
Look at what competition has done for Migs. How need for a left fullback is well documented, but we keep overlooking our need for a an effective Right fullback as Clyne is just not a good crosser of the ball. In fact anytime he is on the ball, takes a shot at goal or runs along the line, i am just not impressed. He has a good engine, but lacks the finishing touch.

22 May 2017 23:45:15
There should be dogged competition in the squad to kick it on to the next level

About the full backs scoring . At the end of the day it's what the team scores that counts.

I would much prefer the full backs to firstly concentrate on keeping goals from being scored against us

Our defense is our Achilles Heel at the moment. and needs changing but any full back that comes in has to be a defender first and anything after that is a bonus.

 


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