Liverpool Banter Archive August 12 2013

12 Aug 2013 23:24:41
I reckon we should bring Christian Poulsen back as defensive midfielder. He was a class act. I saw him once at Anfield and he gave a 7 yard pass straight to Stevey with the OUTSIDE of his left foot. It was a great pass. Furthermore, another underestimated player was David Ngog. He scored only 3 goals at Anfield however those goals were absolute clinkers. He hit a 5 yard drive once and I swear the hairs on the back of my neck stood up. They stood up. I know many of you won't agree with this view but hey. aren't we all entitled to our views? And don't get me started on Jovanovic. What a player. What a gem. We let that one get away.
Jackzokay
Jackzokay

Nicely written, made me laugh out loud and my wife gave me a funny look.

On fire! Loving it all.

This is really funny, fair play mate

Andriy Vornonin - another worldy we let go. I saw him score against Leverkusen in a Friendly once.fantastic player

More please!

Also, all this talk of needing a new left back. Why oh why did we let Paul Konchesky go!

I remember the good old days of Paul Konchesky galloping forward to whip in crosses in front of the Anfield faithful, he were like a pale Roberto Carlos.

13 Aug 2013 12:51:09
How can you forget the combative positional genius that both Djimi traore and Igor Biscan displayed foryears. There was always hope of a clean sheet with those two back there.

12 Aug 2013 22:49:44
Can I just say, is it any wonder that LFC are in debt to the tune of nearly 100 million. We sign Andy Carroll for 35 million and sell for 19 million. We sign Downing for 20 million and look to sell to West Ham for 6 million. Why do we consistently pay well over the odds for players and get very little return when we sell. We need to look at ourselves. We can't continue to lose money. Like we've already wasted 50 million on new stadium designs and now we are staying at anfield. The money men need to realise that we can't waste money.

To be fair, the new 'transfer committee' thing seems to be working to me. Sturridge and Coutinho are both of clear quality on very decent transfer fees. Toure was a shrewd move and I think Mignolet is a good choice. Aspas is a bit of an unknown but those that have watched him the past seem to think him a clever signing and he didn't cost the moon. Alberto was I think more a target of opportunity than anything and looks to be a good bit of business as well.

So, yes, the past was awful but so far I like the look of what they've been doing since the January window.

We have thrown money out the window and recording losses in fransfers and still fans are bitching about spending more money on marquee signings (whateva that means) just for the sake of it. We have improved our squad. We just need 2/3 more players in key areas. BR has said that he won`t spend money for the sake of it and I fully agree. So I suggest we get behind the team and the coaches.

13 Aug 2013 09:04:46
Redohio.

I Understand your point, But why did we bought Luis alberto, when Suso was ready for a go?
Why did we loaned Robinson, If we are going to bring another average player to cover Enrique?
thats almost 15 mill saved.

Harry the truth is Suso is not ready to step up that's why he was sent out on loan so that he could develop further as his first time opportunities will be cut short this season and what we need is him to get experience. Alberto was out on loan before he joined us and he was doing really well which is probably why we picked him up because there was belief that he was ready to make the step up with his already successful season under his belt. Robinson needs more time if you've seen him play you would know that and since we haven't even got an LB in yet your comments on a mediocre LB are unfounded as of yet let's see what's brought in first before you start slating them.

Luis Alberto is a technically sound player with an eye for a pass. He will be a very good player for us when used.
Suso didn't have the impact I was expecting in the games he played for us last season. He has been loaned to gain experience and get playing time.
BR has sold/loaned players on high wages and replaced them with better quality players on much lower wages; Win win.

13 Aug 2013 10:36:40
Mushroom
Suso everytime was played on the Wings, and that's the problem when you play someone out of positions.
looka t mata, He is deadly behind the striker and pretty much average when he plays on wide right.
Ozil never plays on the wings. Ronaldo only played as on the left.
Suso should be the one to come off the bench to replace Countinho after 60-70 mts.

Good post RDL

Harry, Ronaldo has played left, right and as a lone striker for RM so your point is flawed. Mata has had just a good a game on the left as he has done in the centre. This is the point, good players can play in varying positions and still influence the game.
Suso needs game time and he will get far more of it on loan. Alberto can challenge for a starting 11 spot straight away.

Harry Scouser

Luis Alberto is more gifted and has an eye for a pass and can shoot and score. Suso`s not ready yet. I hope he does get it right because he has serious potential.

12 Aug 2013 22:36:03
I'm hearing Tom Ince is nailed on to be a Liverpool player within the next fortnight.

Curled1

12 Aug 2013 22:21:22
Decent amount of people whining about money and transfers again. Can people not just relax and give Rodgers at least until the transfer window is closed. Since January we've improved quite a lot and I firmly believe we will be willing to put money forward for suitable players. I honestly think we'll sign 3 more players yet, let's show some patience - remember the panic to try get Sneidjer in January and the club were patient and got their actual target at a price they wanted, they won't all work out as well as that but show some faith our recruiting has improved.

12 Aug 2013 22:22:17
I really don't see the thing it is with fans.
the club is building
so we start with cutting the bill, getting rid of players we don't want and bringing in some others that can play. that 's it for this season.
we will finish 7th or 8th .
next season we will sign players that would strengthen the club.
next to next we will challenge champions league.
and 3 years down the lane we will challenge for all trophies wid a big stadium and squad.
BR and owners see it clear, so should we. they have a plan that will work because it always has for many teams round the world.

dortmund, barcelona, arsenal, marsielle . we r just taking a leaf out of the most successful formula for success. blossoming the youth.
or obvioulsy one needs huge bags of money.
i like the hard work way.
the club will never loose its charm ever (95k fans at down under). we are that sort of club.

Great post mate

12 Aug 2013 21:46:21
What's people's thoughts on this "pact" with united not to sell Suarez and Rooney to try and curtail player power? Think it's bullhonky?

Yep. It's "bullhonky"

There is no pact what so ever. Both clubs are having similar issues at the same time and have responded in similar manor. That is it. No pact. What would a pact do anyway?

Andy K

I think the story would need to sworn testimony of two high ranking officials just so to raise the credibility up to the level of bull.

Not just player power that needs sorting out its agents that need putting in line not all agents not all players not it could do with sorting out not that I think it will be even could be cleaned up
Ynwa

12 Aug 2013 21:33:22
Now that downing is set to leave do you see us going back in for ince or dzsudszak?

Hopefully neither.

Cheers for your reply ed. But isn't this damaging suarez's and his agents reputation for potential buyers? Surely the prospective buyers are going to think "do we really want some1 that is lacking so much respect for his employers and so ill advised by his agent" {Ed002's Note - Right.}

I see us going in for a pizza and a doughnut. Just RTP!

12 Aug 2013 21:18:54
ok so one week to go the possitives are ;
4 new players in.
4 or so sold and we are in the black for 3.5 million
wages bill massive reduction.
we have loaned out a lot also.

Negatives
we have only bought one first eleven player (keeper)
the jury is still out on aspas and toure time will tell
i still think suarez will go and possibly agger too
we seem to be having serious trouble signing top players.
when we are loosing a match there does not seem to be a plan b .again with nobody signed could be a big mistake selling carrol just don't think borini is up to much.

overall view if brendan doesn't have some real talent
lined up we could be in trouble trying to blend a team together with average talent .we have had all summer to bring in some quality and with one week to go it is looking fruitless.come on fsg splash the cash after all this suarez nonsense give us something to cheer about.

I suspect if you're waiting for FSG to 'splash the cash' you may be waiting for a while.

Should note that I'm completely 100% fine with this- LFC needs to figure out how to live within it's means rather than relying on FSG to bail us out every year.

Trust BR he's shown with coutiniho an sturridge he can pick a player.
and I think you're wrong about aspas he IMO is an improvement on downing and even more versatile

BR can find good players and I`m not too bothered about the odd mistake. Like posted, we must leave within our means and get much better value for player that will improve the squad. The moaners and trolls should stop belly-aching and support the squad.

12 Aug 2013 21:33:17
Hi guys, BR is saying he wants to move coutinho in to a central role and he wants to bring in a fast attacking left sided player to fill that gap. I think sterling and ibe will do exactly that this season, what are your thoughts eds and fellow posters?

Asianred {Ed030's Note - He obviously doesn't think there ready yet mate otherwise he wouldn't want a left sided player. }

I think - given that we have Ibe and Sterling as well as several others, he would probably be looking to bring in a loan player for a season to fill the position and give the others another year to mature. So who is a left sided forward player available for loan.

12 Aug 2013 21:12:20
If Luis doesn't want to work for LFC, that's OK by me. If I don't want to work, my boss doesn't pay me as i'm not meeting the requirements of my contract. Its plain and simple and is enshrined in the wonderful laws of our country, a contract is a two way documment, binding to both parties.

If he doesn't work to the satisfaction of his employers, he doesn't get paid.simples! We save £1 mill in wages while he's banned anyway, so there's no rush.

Im sure FSG have their plans in place. He won't be able to work while he's under contract to us, he can sit at home if he wants but he won't get paid i'm sure

12 Aug 2013 20:50:05
Could one of the Eds shed some Light on the LB situation?
It seems we are just about to buy either Cissoko, Diego Contento or Siqueira depending on which paper or website you read
Any info on which one?
I think it will be Coentrao from RM as part of the Suarez deal {Ed030's Note - Siqueira is looking the most likely at the moment but things can change quickly. }

They certainly can Ed030 as apparently Real Madrid are now sniffing around him.

11 Aug 2013 22:37:18
Hi ed 30. This is just a question to you. With Man City to trim their squad do u think Liverpool will try tempt any one away. Sinclair for one? I know we are hoping to get some people in. Do u think we will be successful with a quality attacker and defender? Cheers mate great job {Ed030's Note - Sinclair maybe a good option he could add the pace to the team that Rodgers mentioned,There are other half decent players on the fringes however I don't see Liverpool going in for them. }

No Sinclair is average. We need players of Suarez quality or calibre. {Ed030's Note - Unfortunately it's not easy to pay for and attract players of that quality,I bet you where one of the one's that doubted Coutinho before he signed,No matter if a players good or bad I will support them as long is they give everything they can. }

How is Sinclair a good option? Is he any better than Sterling or Ibe? Sorry for being a }--- but I don't see how Sinclair would make Liverpool a top 4 team.

You can't buy players with non-existent money, CC. Suarez is (perhaps) going for as much as £50M. How many players at £50M a pop do you think we could afford?

12 Aug 2013 20:33:25
Is anyone else concerned about the way transfers going Suarez will go, who would blame Agger if he went. Downing, MS Reina all high earners off the pay role.We can not replace these players in such a short space of time.Liverpool supporter for 35 years I'm worried boys

You're not the only one pal. Still a few days before the transfer window closes so (fingers crossed) Brendan & FSG can pull a rabbit out of the hat (though I'm not banking on it)

Agger and suarez haven't gone anywhere yet, the other 3 played crap last season. What is there to replace?

Frankly I welcome anyone to leave if they are going to play poorly or show no commitment to the club. Our aim is to get into the champions league. However when we get there we will get trashed with our current squad.

Rogers is doing a great job of cutting loose the turd and bringing young hungry people to replace them.

As a Liverpool supporter of over 40 years, I am not worried.
Good to get the high earners and under achievers off the books and get us onto a sound finance and not go bust
If Agger goes not good but not disaster as the options to replace are good as well and younger (Sahko, Papa, etc)
Plus I have never seen so many good kids coming through from the Academy

I would not blame agger at all it would be bad timing but if the money was right for Liverpool then he should he allowed to go, don't want him to but that's my thought as long as money right, shake hands wish him the best hope to see him back one day even for visit, but like I say bad timing, not two stressed about reina, never liked downing but sad it never worked out for the lad as seems good lad, a good pro, but if he goes wish him the best and west ham get great deal for 5/6 m
Ynwa

I am sure we will get at least 2 quality players and we are. Not in the. Europa league this season, so do we need a large squad? I just worry if sturridge and coutinho get injured don't havemuch faith in borini. Got to trust brendan though.

Ynwa

I'm not worried about wages I believe lfc will spend on wages for the right players downing not worth the money when ibe can offer as much on lower wages same with reina and mignolet. Think the club is getting more value for their money it's just sensible. If anything getting the wage structure balanced like this will allow lfc to bring in first team players on better contracts rather than wasting money on big wages for squad players. It might seem like we, 're being cheap but I think it is necessary for the club to move forward

Rodgers and the owners are doing the best they can. They are still trying to undo and recover the damage done by Benitez, Hodgson, Dalglish and Comolli. Some of the signings made by the previous management were appaulling - think of Aquilani, Jovanovic, Joe Cole, Poulsen, Konchesky, Carroll, Downing, Adam. Some terrible signings there, be it value or quality or both.

Agree completely with Liverpres.

We need to be patient, because we have to pay for the sins and terrible errors of the recent past.

12 Aug 2013 20:29:02
Hi, I recall seeing an answer saying that Rodgers was looking at a new midfielder as a replacement or back up for Lucas at DM. I hope this is true, Lucas is simply not good enough if we have aspirations to get into the top4, he is our biggest weakness and has to be replaced if we want to get into the top . Anyway I was just wondering if we have shown any interest in a DM and who you would personally like to see come in as our starting DM. cheers

When fit lucas is the best defensive midfielder in europe! breaks the play up, covers every blade of grass and retains posession better than all of our current squad!

You obviously don't look at full matches, possibly a MOTD viewer who doesn't understand what he adds to the team. Or a troll

BR is looking for cover at most in the DM position as there is very few at the level of Lucas.

I'm sorry but I personally disagree that Lucas isn't good enough, yes he may not be a huge physical presence but positionally he is superb. As much as I agree that cover for this position is something we could benefit from I don't think that is as big a priority as other positions such as CB, LB and LW. {Ed030's Note - When he wasn't in the team everyone realized how much we missed him,He's not a brilliant technical player however without him Liverpool don't look as good imo. {

Holds head in hands ** Lucas is our weakness! I give up!

Some funny sods on 'ere.

Lucas is our weakness? What wort wat?
Double face-palm!!!!

If a club truly reflects its fans, then I weep for LFC. Yes, I am referring to you 'public enemy'.

12 Aug 2013 20:21:36
Was it just a coincidence that Agger had been made vice captain in the wake of this Barcelona interest. Was it a sneaky way to make him feel more special so not to all Barca to lure him?

No it was because he is the best man for the job and he deserves it ;)

I think there is a bit of both. He is deserving however it does send a clear message that we want to keep him.

Andy K

12 Aug 2013 20:07:05
If a deal for Cissokho broke down because we didn't want to buy, why are we buying Siqueria out right, is the difference in the two prices significant? Cissokho had a poor year so surely can't be worth more than 10 and so we must be right on cash!

13 Aug 2013 00:38:04
Whoever we sign at left back will be competition for Enrique. I would guess whoever loses that will be gone at the end of the season, and the winner would end up being replaced by Robinson eventually

12 Aug 2013 19:50:38
I know there hasn't been much activity lately but hopefully a few players are beginning to arrive, whilst players we wanted sold are also moving.

If true looks like we are about to sign Siqueira for 5 million. Seems a solid player and performer and finally at 27 not potential, but finished article.

This would give us Siqueira, Johnson, Agger, Toure and Kelly. There's a possibility we will lose both Coates and Skrtle this window, and if so then the likely replacement will either Papadopulos or Alderweireld.

I would be happy with either of these signing as both seem top players and still young.

In midfield we have already sold Shelvey, Spearing and looks like Downing is next. We will also likely see Assiaidi leave and Suarez.

For me Eriksen and Capel would do me as replacements both represent value for money at their current fees and both have a lot of ability on the ball.

As replacement for Suarez I honestly couldn't think of anyone. Muriel gets mentioned a lot and seems a potentially good striker, but with the work permit issues it makes him unlikely.

Jonesred

Chuck in some iron bru, pickled onion space raiders and a bag of haribo then yeah that would be a good deal.

Am I the only one who thinks we really don't need Erickson?
we have coutiniho for the acm role
and for cover there's stevie g, aspas, hendo and allen who can all play there, what we need is another versatile winger who can play either side.
whats you're thoughts reds and ed's?

12 Aug 2013 19:21:48
Hey ed, just curious about what's behind BR's thinking regarding Suarez? I understand that he doesn't want to sell to a rival (arsenal), but why is he denying Suarez a move? He'll be losing out on £40+ million, wasting wages and Suarez must be effecting morale for the players and staff. Does he think that things will work out, or is he doing this to spite Suarez? Sorry, you must be asked this dozens of times a day, but anyway, thanks as per usual. {Ed002's Note - RTP.}

He is only denying him a move "in theory", once a club from Europe who meets Suarez's criteria, and in turn the clubs price he will be off.

Henry, (and the man from Delmonte) he say no, but then basically infers the decision is down to Rodgers. Rodgers then says Luis can't, and won't train/play with the first team until he apologises . guess what, Suarez wants to leave so why would he apologise . and he won't!

So under "duress" the club will sell .

But he's worth fifty mil plus which is another reason why were saying no.

12 Aug 2013 19:00:33
all u go guys wondering how spurs are getting all this money u only have to look at whatkind off money there getting for bale that will be a done deal on hold till they get players so prices don't inflate we know that first hand!

Spurs have plenty of money without the sale of Bale. They are a very wealthy club who have unfortunately for us spent very wisely.

Hate to say this and it will upset lots but the person to blame for recent poor signings is kk.

Rafa, Hodgson and Kenny all have some responsibility for the position we are in. Along with Comolli, H & G and so on.

Andy K

12 Aug 2013 18:48:23
im just going to throw this out here, reina, suarez, maybe agger, 3 class players is there something going on that the players know and we dont, like were not going to buy players of similar class, agger has the tatoo's on his fingers, why get them and then not want to stay with us, we are in credit with our transfers plus the money the owners was going to give BR, up untill the end of last season these players were saying they wanted to stay and win cups with Liverpool fc, spurs don't have C/L football but they have bought well by paying the money for the quality of the players they have bought,

i think we will get into the top 4 this season because of the manager changes in the clubs above us and with a bit of luck, but for the club to sit on the money and not spend would be a big mistake, again as with spurs all top players want to play in our league, I wonder who will score the most goals Soldado or Sturridge or Suarez, i'm not being doom and gloom i'm looking between the lines of why we have not bought anymore players even the ones we was interested in, well there's 3 weeks untill the window shuts let's see if we get a top signing

12 Aug 2013 18:30:42
Hopefully Totenham will still lose Bale to Madrid. If Madrid then don't have the funds for Suarez I would prefer he went to Bayern or Barca.

If so then I'd hope we at least tried to involve either Shaqiri or Sanchez into the deal. In Shaqiri we would get a very promising winger, and in Sanchez we would get a high calibure attacker who can play a number positions.

I know Sanchez is a long shot, but still worth showing an interest.

Have to say also a Barca front three of Messi, Neymar and Suarez would be a joy to watch.

Jonesred

I agree jonesred a front 3 like that would destroy la liga and europe

These kind of "dream" strike forces generally don't work because the egos get in the way.

12 Aug 2013 18:06:09
So with Rodgers saying we want a goal scoring left player, where does that leave Suarez to play? RW? because I'd hate to keep Suarez an he puts sturridge on the bench. With everything that has happend that would really effect sturridges confidence! I think we will sell Suarez an wait till jan or next summer to spend the money! If we can get a couple wingers in befor!

I'd say it leaves Suarez to play for Real. Or maybe PSG or City.

Luis Suarez was moved out of the No.9 position to accommodate Daniel Sturridge . Daniel Sturridge is very much pur main striker for the foreseeable future .

Suarez will go I have no doubt in that.

12 Aug 2013 17:31:05
Anyone else not shocked to hear Agger wants to go? So rather than the investment required to push team to top four we're selling our better players. International players like Agger Reina Downing Skrtel is available so is anyone really.
Top four here we come.

I wonder which site 'crunch' normally posts on? Everton? Man Utd?

For a start, the wording of Agger's agent was misrepresented. He said nowhere in his statement that Agger wanted to go. What he said is that the club had rejected a bid from them. He then went on to say that "if" a time came when both clubs agreed a fee then they would have to consider their position. I really wish people would actually read these things properly and not just do as journo's do and put their own slant on the words. Now to you're other point about international players etc. These guys have been underperforming for a considerable amount of time. We have not reached top four with them under at least 3 managers. From what I recall 90% of fans wanted them gone last season or earlier in the summer. Now because there's only 3 weeks left of the window people are panicking. If it was 5mins before the deadline I could understand some of the doom and gloom. Roger's has said they are working on targets and I believe him. There are midweek friendlies and a lot of teams are not long back from tours. There was also cup competitions over the summer. Have a little more faith, a lot can happen in 3 weeks. We have more than enough to cover the few games between now and the end of the window. 2/3 quality additions will really enhance the team and that's only 1 a week between now and sep 2, so lighten up a little.

This is exactly what his agent Per Steffenson said : “We are aware that Barcelona have made an offer for Daniel that Liverpool have rejected, ” said Steffensen.

“Daniel has a contract with Liverpool for three years and it would be up to the clubs to agree a fee for his transfer in order for that to change.”
and this is the headline : DANIEL AGGER'S ­future at Liverpool is uncertain after it emerged he is open-minded about a move to Barcelona.
Like I said, sensationalist and misrepresented, it's how they sell papers. People should'nt get so worked up by headlines without actually reading what is actually said. P.s It really does make for a calmer life lol

I'm staying positive. Regardless of no signs of the players the squad requires coming and regardless that it seems FSG have not spent a penny. I'm routing for us.
Stay positive
Top four here we come

Crunch, so when you say 'FSG have not spent a penny' we're disregarding everything prior to August 2013 then?

They've spent plenty of money on the club but at some point we need to stop living off of their wallets and start making our own money. Being 2nd in the league in losses for a 3rd year running is not a record we need to achieve.

12 Aug 2013 17:18:01
Hi eds, with our apparent lack of success landing targets are we looking at any players with previous prem experience now playing championship football. I'm thinking og the CB situation and Pearce of reading was touted before as was Scott Dann? Obviously Wigan have a couple of players of interest such as mcArthy and the scouse lad whose name I have forgot?

I accpet this post seems a bit desperate but we do t seem to be doing it at the moment.In general terms r players not intersted in joining us or haven't we actually bid for our target?

Thanks
Daniellambretta {Ed002's Note - Not that I am aware.}

Scott Dann.
Top four here we come

12 Aug 2013 17:10:25
Eds, Now that Downing almost completes his move to West Ham, do you think club is going to look at Scott Sinclair or Moses? or do you think we have enough individuals in squad that can fill up the position?

Personally I would like youngster given a chance to shine but then question arise of inexperienced squad. What are you thoughts on this? {Ed002's Note - Try the search engine or read the posts please.}

12 Aug 2013 16:52:26
Hi Eds,

With Rodgers recently saying he wanted Coutinho moved inside and that he was looking for a left-sided player with speed that can score goals, do you think we would be looking at Antoine Griezmann? Also, do you know of any other leftwing players that might be an option for Liverpool? {Ed002's Note - I am sure posters will think of many players for you.}

I wouldn't worry to much about "wingers" think more attacker, we need players with flexibility and fluidity, someone like Marco Rues as an example(we won't get him, it's just an example)

12 Aug 2013 16:38:42
Ed’s
Regarding Suarez. We all know he is not going to Arsenal. However it’s most likely he is going to Madrid now that it looks like Bale isn’t going to happen. So my question for you is….Per JWH comments we aren’t selling Suarez because a replacement can’t be found so would think that Liverpool would request a player from Madrid in any sale? I know this has been discussed and Álvaro Morata was originally planned to try and sweeten the pot but he has since turned down the move. Who else does that leave from Madrid that would move to us from an attacking stand point?

Also if a player from Madrid can’t be found to include in the trade what other striking options are out that that are left for Liverpool to replace Suarez with?

If we don’t go for a striker I’m sure that the money would go to left side player yet that still might leave us short up top.

I would think that the sale of Skrtel and Coates would then go to fund another defender.

So where does the Suarez money go? Who else is available for the 20-25k mark? {Ed002's Note - It was Callejon not Morata, but all of this has pretty much been done to death already.}

12 Aug 2013 16:22:59
Hi Eds+Reds
Just read that Raheem Sterling might be going to West Ham on loan?

Any truth in this?!

I really hope not were struggling to fill the LW & RW as it is without loosing him, if we put him out on loan well have to get two wingers as we need another even with him

Hope there's no truth in this

Cheers

12 Aug 2013 16:05:57
Strong rumours of Scott Sinclair coming to us (from twitter of course).

Makes sense in lots of ways -

1. BR knows him
2. Would cost similar to what we got for Downing
3. Young, and probably on lower wages than SD.

We need to make a handful of strong first team signings now to rebuild the squad. Hopefully he will be the first.

Because he was at the u21 games to watch his brother play for Southampton is the main reason for rumours.

12 Aug 2013 15:50:49
Ed I have just seen that we are letting Sterling go to west ham on loan. Can you clarify why we are letting our good players leave on loan or selling them when we do not have any replacements in. Downing Shelvey Assaidi now Sterling. I thought Rogers said he would buy quality.Now Agger wants to move to Barca. When do you think we will start to see new additions come in. {Ed002's Note - ICAQAT.}

It can't be true. He's one of our best players. The Reina loan deal baffled me but if this is true then BR has ballsd up big time

12 Aug 2013 15:19:40
We talk about lowering the wage budget, does 02 have a rough idea of what aspas and Alberto are on by any chance?
Cheers {Ed002's Note - Wages are not something I wish to discuss. We can talk more about finances now that everyone is registered but wages are not an appropriate subject.}

We must have lost an absolute shed load off the wage bill over the last 18 months, which I have to say I am absolutely delighted about. Yes, we should pay top players top whack, but what we don't need is squad players - and a huge amount of them - on top players wages. The likes of Degen, El Zhar, Cole, and countless others were eating into the wage bill. I am aware that it cost the club to remove the players, but it was necessary. I would hope that a more streamlined squad will bear fruit in the coming years.

12 Aug 2013 15:10:25
Brendan Rodgers - ". And once we get the right kind of quality to put on the sides, he [Coutinho] will play in that central role. That is where he affects the game best".

This quote suggests that Rodgers has acknowledged that we do not currently have the players within the squad to play in the wide positions and that we are looking to purchase two players to fill these positions.

It is about time we started looking to add width to the squad. We have been crying out for wingers for a long time. We need wingers who are comfortable on the ball, who can make a pass and score goals. My preference would be Antoine Griezmann (22) who scored 10 goals and assisted 5 in the league last season for Real Sociedad and Eduardo Salvio (23) who [last season] scored 10 and assisted 9 in the league for Benfica.
When Downing and Assaidi leave we have will have two players in Sterling and Ibe who will provide competition and cover for the the wingers.

I would also like to bring in 22 year old striker Lorenzo Insigne of Napoli possibly in exchange for Skrtel.

I would like to know which wingers you would prefer and why.

Cheers
Red Rum

Comforting I guess, though I'd really have to question the knowledge of someone who didn't believe Coutinho isn't a perfect #10 for us. The problem you have pointed out I agree with completely and have also seen a lack in that department for a few years. Our wide play is average and our backs going forward are unreliable and mostly unproductive. Sterling and Ibe haven't built enough experience imo to warrant that responsibility all season. They are very quick, but their decision making needs to increase and that comes with time. Downing had a great work ethic and fight, but made little impact. We do need wide players that chip in with goals badly. I'm sure BR and staff have seen this and why Downing's off. Would prefer Costa if I could choose from those we've shown interest in. A strong and attack minded wide player that will give us another dimension and option going forward. He'd bring more height as well for set plays and long crosses. He's got the technical ability to fit in our style perfectly. I hope we push the envelope a bit further and get him, I think he'll be huge for us.

If we get all the players YOU want, how are we going to fit in all the other players that other LFC fans want?

12 Aug 2013 14:47:18
Everyone needs to chill out! I think the club are doing great at getting rid of our crappy high earners. Carroll skrtle downing were all on over 80k a week, thanks to comoli!
Wouldn't u rather have much better players then them who are younger and on lower wages? because that's what the club are doing. U can see aspas in already a step up from downing and on half the wages. Everyone was crying to sell shelvey downing reina skrtle last season, because u can tell on the field there just not good enough anymore and most of them pushing 29/30! Be patient we will sign quality soon!

Comolli and Kenny really did a "fantastic" job.
Downing, Sktl and Carroll on a quarter of a million pounds per week combined?

And that's not even considering the old wreck of Joe Cole from the previous regime.

Kenny didn't sign Skrtel.

Skrtle was player of the yr under Kenny, He was one of the best Centre Backs in Europe.Brendan came in and tried changing the way he played. Rodgers doesn't want him now and he will be moved on, probably on the cheap.
I think Brendan's major fault is he says to much, "Martin doesn't have leadership, or organisation skills, " was a quote not needed and absolutely buried M S.And it tells other clubs that they can get this player on the cheap, because the manager's not playing him.

Martin Skrtle is a fine CB, but does not have the ability to play in the BR system. Cast your mind back to Man City at home at the start of last year. Cost us 2 points there. He was given nearly 20 games in the system and just couldn't cut it. As a conventional CB he is one of the best around and deserves to play week in week out but just not with LFC. Think of it a a square peg in a round hole. He's worth 10-12 Million and we need to move him on. 60K a week and not starting is a lot of cash tied up. Prefer to keep blooding Wisdom for a year or 2 that keep Martin as it stands right now

12 Aug 2013 14:12:16
{Ed002's Note - This is not a subject for discussion here - sorry.}

12 Aug 2013 14:09:41
"Consistency" this will be a major factor in determining where will we finish this season. People can argue as much as they like about our squad not being on par with the likes of chelsea, mancity, united, spurs, arsenal and to a certain extent I agree with that, but the league consists of 13 other teams as well, that's 78 points. I'm not saying we will win them all, what i'm trying to say is if we have players who believe in each other and give their all for the sake of the team and put performances that they are capable of on a consistent level then we can achieve anything. Just look at united, they don't have world class individuals for every position, some of them are average at best but what they have is that belief in themselves as well as their teammates, that's why they are so successful. It was the same with us while we were on top. I just want to see Liverpool becoming a major force again.
I know every Liverpool fans are hurtin when we are not mentioned as title contenders, when we are not on that champions league draw, when top players are not linked to us but that's part of life. So in times like these rather than having a go at each other, slagging off players before playing a single game of a season is not the way forward. We have to stick together and believe in our team so that they can believe in themselves and give their all. We fans had two choices at half time on that night at Istanbul, we made the right choice and we all know what happened next. I hope this season we make the right choices.

Couldn't agree more. We need a Champion Team, not a team full of champions. That is what we are aiming for. I think people will also be surprised how we fair against city, united, Chelsea etc. We need the right players, not necessarily the most expensive ones.

12 Aug 2013 14:34:06
14 other teams.

Anfield Andy (Sorry I didn't log in)

12 Aug 2013 14:39:20
Excellent post. I wouldn't be dissapointed if we fail in the Cup, We should focus on the 38 league games. the best possible team should start in all these games

Well said and a great perspective there. What true "supporters" should be.

12 Aug 2013 13:55:38
Saw in the times spurs are looking to Lamela to replace bale, this is beyond a joke. Same situation with him eds and would they buy off all his part owners?
Thanks {Ed002's Note - Third party ownership is not allowed in England, so yes, they would have to if he is to move here.}

12 Aug 2013 13:36:53
So now downings gone who's down for starting Ibe RW againts stoke? I think he's better than sterling and wouldn't get bullied as much. It won't happen tho, coutinho sturridge aspas front 3 with gerrard Lucas an Allan in mid for stoke. Hopefully we get some top players in befor the villa match!
Excited to see who the left sided player is Rodgers wants because we no we have money. Still baffling me why we didn't move for Bernard that's his best position and would have played every match, plus he's got friends here in lucas an coutinho!

The only person who should be disappointed with Downings exit is Downing. He hasn't lived upto billing but I do think he is above average and would flourish once more in claret and blue. He'll get into double figure if he moves and if he doesn't go then he will be another expensive bench warmer as we have a least four players who could come in and do a better job than Downing= #Sterling #Ibe #Coutinio #Alberto. IMO

Personally I think Sterling & Ibe will be rotated on the left wing, Coutinho will play behind Sturridge which leaves us desperately needing a RW but we need quality not more squad players.

12 Aug 2013 13:30:56
Ed02 is Luis Gustavo going to Arsenal? {Ed002's Note - Try the Arsenal page.}

12 Aug 2013 13:19:43
Since downing is going to west ham and we need a big player in the centre of the park, is there any chance Diame could be part of a player swap deal?

We want to try keep possession not keep losing possession. He is hugely over rated.

12 Aug 2013 14:40:11
Is diame a LW?

12 Aug 2013 13:16:26
I think Liverpool will try to sign Atsu in the next day or two. I think Spurs may get him though.

Really? its all over the internet that Spurs are trying to sign Atsu. But then you have to put LFC in it.

12 Aug 2013 15:36:04
they are talking spurs for as little as a million? looks like they have now signed halilovic? {Ed002's Note - You need to register to continue posting.}

12 Aug 2013 17:16:32
sorry ed, is this better? {Ed002's Note - Much better, thank you.}

12 Aug 2013 13:03:49
Hello Eds I don't know why we are looking for another left side forward player when we have Aspas, Sturridge, Suarez as are front 3! And Sterling Borini, Ibe in reserve? Surely it must mean one is about to leave! The only 2 players worth bidding for IMO is Muriel &
Konoplyank! Can you please post this as I have been asking for around 2 weeks Cheers lads PDLFC

Oh come on
Do we really want to pin our top 4 hopes on Sterling, Ibe and Borini. Beacuse Sturridge is quite injury prone and Suarez is as prone to a ban as a person is to mosquito bite.

We most definately need a top notch LW (Costa or Konoplyanka) and a quality Suarez replacement (Yilamz or Muriel) as I am pretty sure he will be sold as soon as we get a bid of around 45M from a non-PL side.

Surely it means one is about to leave?

Where have you been all summer?

Suarez is banned for the first 6 games & 100% commitment from him is more than questionable. Aspas is new to the league & can't be relied upon to provide the majority of our goals. Borini & Sturridge are very much injury prone and Ibe & Sterling are still gradually being brought into the squad.

12 Aug 2013 12:56:39
Ed's and fellow Reds, I have to say for the first time in a few years I really am Very Very optimistic about the upcoming season. We have a really good manager with a great mindset on how to play the beautiful game with a philosophy based on attacking football. We also now have a really good squad with plenty of options at the top of the pitch. Hopefully with the signing of a couple of more influential players in the next few weeks we can make a real go of pushing for the top 4 this season and who knows maybe even a little further up too. I really think we should push a little harder to sign Diego Costa or try and get Erikson and get another center back.

C'mon LFC, let's make this season count and get amongst the big boys once again.

12 Aug 2013 12:37:15
Hi Eds just signed up thanks for all your time!

Just wanted to ask with Siqueira and Cissokho we are going for middle aged centre backs who both had poor last seasons but good seasons before just so they have a low price, rather than going for someone who had a good last season. {Ed002's Note - I am not so sure they would consider themselves to be middle aged.}

12 Aug 2013 11:54:40
I'm a little surprised at the latest Downing story. He seems to have improved lately, still a bit erratic but more solid than he used to be. But to lose 13 million to get rid of him would only make sense (to me at least) if we have someone lined up who could step into his place.
Don't get me wrong, I never rated him, but it's a massive loss to take. Perhaps it's to get his wages off the books.

I agree completely. That is quite a loss to take and Downing was perfectly willing to fight for his place. Surely there is a replacement lined up, or else Downing would still be on the books.

I will also be willing to fight for my place if I am wolfing down 80K per week.
Sure, pay me 10K per week before taxes and I will injure and destroy all competitors!
Being willing to fight for your place means square root of zero point zero.

12 Aug 2013 10:27:08
Eds how many more players coming in? Looks like downing is set to join whu. BR keeps saying we lack depth but is then selling and not replacing. I think we need atleast 2 top players and 3 squad players. {Ed002's Note - RTP.}

12 Aug 2013 11:07:18
We are doing the same as we did last year, we let Bellamy, Kuyt & Maxi all go and never replaced there goals which meant we lost roughly 30 - 35 goals, This year we have let Carroll, Shelvey, Spearing & Downing go with Skrtel, Suarez & possibly Agger potentially leaving we have lost nearly 40 goals from those players and look like were guna be relying on the kids once again instead of buying proven world class players.

We all knew what area of the team that needed strengthening in my view was a LB, 2 CB'S, CDM, LW, RW, CF, we have added to the squad already but are squad was fairly thin and we have signed 4 players but let go of 6 players so far which makes our squad even thinner that last year, we all know Suarez is as good as gone regardless of what Rodgers & Henry are saying, he will go abroad, so we need 3 world class players in my view to challenge the top 4 as Spurs have brought very well, Arsenal always seem to do well and we can forget the top 3 at the moment as were not good enough.

LB = looks like Guilherme Siqueira
2 CB'S = Possibly Papa we already brought Toure
CDM = Really don't know who.
LW = Sanchez, Muriel, Turan or Muniain
RW = i'd go for Tom Ince as a replacement for Downing
CAM/CF = Eriksen, Ozil or Costa

Very true although maybe not so many more attacking options. I feel Sakho at CB top 15 million, splash out on Ganso as a Gerrard replacement and another winger I would love Muniain as well, he destroyed United in the Europa League a few years ago and would not break the bank! Or another Brazilian Bernard.

I was nodding-off reading that

12 Aug 2013 13:12:41
can only see saq, papa and ince from that list mate

12 Aug 2013 13:14:08
2 CB'S = Papa won't be coming since the asking price is more than 15 mil ans skertel has gone on loan

CDM = Not a high Priority right now.

LW = We don't have interest in none you mentioned.

RW = Tom Ince is a possibilty, But we would need a much bigger player, Fingers crossed on this one.

CAM/CF = We have Countinho and alberto to play there and if necessary gerrard also can play.

Your argument is flawed, as scoring goals wasn't really our problem last year. You say we sold maxi, kuyt and Bellamy, and never replaced their goals - how come we scored more goals last season than the previous? If we had a stronger defence we would have fared better last season - goals weren't really our problem.

No disrespect mate but 30-35 goals between kuyt, maxi & bellamy, really? and your list for people we have let go so far this year - carroll (on loan at west ham all year), shelvey (couldnt get a game), spearing (out on loan at bolton all season). I struggle to see who's goals we are missing out on there?

i am also staggered to see people complaining that downing is being let go now.

it really does seem that rodgers can do no right by some people.

3 weeks left to sign people is a very long time, relax and see how things pan out.

Really don't need Ince.
When Suarez goes it will be for atleast 40M pounds and that should be enough to buy 2 real quality attackers in Muriel and Sanchez/Konoplyanka. Really hoping we don't go for the cheapest targets.
While the money from Skrtel, Coates and Downing should be enough to buy Papadopoulos or Sakho.
While we would just have to fork out cash for the Granada LB.

Lost 30-35 goals? We ended last season with 71 goals, the highest tally since the 08/09 season where we finished second. Get your facts straight before making such a negative post.

Out: Assaidi Downing Borini Coates Skrtel

Ins:
DM CB: Papa 16m
LB: Sigueri 5m
RW ST LW: Sanchez 24m (unlikely)

I think Iker Munian will be signed instead of Sanchez in my opinion.

12 Aug 2013 10:52:24
Glad to see Rogers has seen what we all do, Coutinho is menace in the 'no10' and will play in the middle when we have the wide quality; I was worried he was wide to facilitate Allen there.
Just over 5 days until we kick the league off, buzzing!

12 Aug 2013 10:46:37
Sorry to hear Downing going for a medical at West Ham. Think he did really well at the back end of last season.

£5M I think that he is worth more to our squad than that. Good experience and while not a brilliant player can do the job he is asked and is disciplined covering for Glen at the back. and above all a good attitude.

This is the sort of player that would be good to have on the bench. I know his wages are high, but surely that could have been negotiated.

Wish him all the best if he leaves.

I think it's best for all partys to be honest mate.
He wants to be playing regular and he's not going to get that at Liverpool this season and like you say his wages are too high to not play him.

Downing's performance against Celtic was typical.

He huffed and puffed to no effect, gave the ball away for their goal, and eventually disappeared from the game.

The 5m we got for him tells you exactly what the football world thinks of him.

{Ed002's Note - We don't discuss that subject.}

Would you be willing to take a 50% pay cut at work? Because £80k a week is the reason he will be gone, I'd imagine Rodgers would like him on the bench but that's £4m a year in wages and £5-6m in a transfer fee.

Also this great attitude of his - where was it until he was told look for a new club last November? He never busted a gut until then he started to try so hard but then think why wasn't he trying this hard all along. People like that don't deserve to be at the club either, took us for granted.

An example for you is Borini - will he make the grade or won't he nobody can say 100% for sure yet but my god the lad is giving it everything from day one so he's got my backing I hope he does cut it (hope rather than expect).

12 Aug 2013 10:05:04
Eds with downing having a medical at west ham today, what was the point of giving him so much game time on Saturday. Starting to concern me now about the lack of depth in our squad. It's all well and good having these good youngsters but we need some experienced signings pretty soon . It all kicks off in 6 days time and I am less optimistic now than I was a few weeks ago {Ed001's Note - it's a friendly, you play those you want rid of in friendlies to entice offers.}

12 Aug 2013 10:24:48
With the rumour of Downing going to West Ham United is there still any interest in Dzsudzsak as I remember a while ago the club had enquired over his availability. A very quality looking player able to create and score goals?

12 Aug 2013 11:01:28
He is a very good player. Would be a great adition. would cost somehwere at 12-15 mill {Ed002's Note - I suspect it is an old story being recycled, but Liverpool showed interest in Dzsudzsak whilst at PSV and again in January when the club enquired after a loan. More recently Inter, Schalke and Parma have shown an interest. It would certainly not be out of the question but I am not aware of any interest from Liverpool right now.}

12 Aug 2013 10:01:42
Really hope we are in for Sakho, he has the aggression we lack in defense at the moment. Great signing if it happens, one can only hope.

I agree, an excellent player and with Papadapoulos priced at close to £18 million with dodgy knees, Sakho would be fantastic signing if we could get him.

I completely agree, he can also play LB if a more defensive one is needed.
I don't know whether it's realistic or not but I would certainly try if available.

12 Aug 2013 09:42:00
so carrol was sold for 15m and now downing for 6m that's a total loss of 34m in 2 years, yet saurez was bought for 23m and a 40m offer has been rejected,! lmao, what are you lot smoking over there

12 Aug 2013 10:35:37
and yet suarez becomes an ugly, personic, nutmugg rubbish.
If you look from a business point of view of from an owners point of view. Suarez is their trump card.
regardless of suaerz, we need a LB and LW top quality, Fingers crossed whom are we targetting?

If the logic baffles you then maybe you shouldn't look at transfers mate. Carroll and Downing were never worth their original price, so as such were offered at a reduced price which LFC deemed acceptable. Suarez has proven his ability surpasses the original amount we bought him for, and Liverpool obviously feel selling our top scorer to another PL team at around £40m would be more damaging than beneficial. Simple really.

JFT 96

JP

The word is you are a seriously funny man. Your humour is just too much, slow down.

12 Aug 2013 10:49:34
Add to that the wages paid to them over 2yrs and the loss could well be over £60m. This is really incredible!

Erm because Suarez is worth fifty plus and Downing and Carroll were pants. Thank god you don't look after the finances.

12 Aug 2013 10:59:20
We're looking at the fact everyone else seems to value Suarez at the same as Rooney, who is a terrible striker these days. Now, Bale had a certain impact for Tottenham I. The last two seasons, an impact that has led to him being valued at 75m or above. Everyone can see that Suarez is just as good a dribbler as Bale, maybe not as fast but has more tricks up his sleeve than raw pace and doesn't shoot from ridiculous places. So why should we accept such a farcical amount as nearly half of Bale? Suarez does come with twice the baggage and so there has to be some discrepancy, so perhaps 50m would suffice. Liverpool however understand that in a World Cup season Suarez simply cannot afford not to play and therefore he needs to realise that the club are in command this year and that he will probably be sold next year, when prices are always even more inflated due to the World Cup fever.

There, my friend, is a lesson in management. Suarez is as good as Bale, has 3 years on his contract and wants to be playing to ensure his place at next years World Cup. We therefore have him by the balls, as we can hold out for another year before his value starts depreciating due to his contract length.

Anfield Andy

Well the difference is u don't sell your best players on the cheap, or to a major rival but u get what u can for the dalglish bad signings. love kd but everyone has to accept they're not up to the aspirations of the fans . maybe we should not be expecting a great year . just try and build . its a hard job rodgers has with all us fans expecting great things. if u remember houllier bought diao diouf cheyrou cisse and we suffered . now its quite similar. rodgers has 2 difficult tasks at the same time . he has to get rid of the dead wood whilst trying to recruit quality ( with no europe)n not be sold down the river with prices. think we need to cut the man some slack and not expect so much. with all the suarez crap aswell it must not be easy . its a worry that we are now looking very thin on areas and that was a major pre season with travelling all over the world . just hope like all the fans we are able to get some quality in .i for one would be happy if he's giving time to build the right team without fans jumpimg all over him on bad results( let's face it we will lose games fans think we should win ). the likes of swansea southampton are all improving . he's getting rid of the players who aren't up to it and he's trying to get players in . he's not paul daniels and it will take time . more than what the average fan will give

12 Aug 2013 12:27:08
Suarez regardless of any game would cement his place in World cup uruguay team.
he is ther country top scorer. If you stick him at reserves. he would break all the records of most goals scored at reserves.
This ugly, nutmeg, personic suarez is justa genius footballer. you can't take that out.

Have a look at the word's other posts lads - clearly a former anonymous poster who used to come on here just to wind people up.

Remember the name and just avoid the trash posts. 100% couldn't be a Liverpool fan

12 Aug 2013 09:40:19
well done to west ham

i might be the only one here. but I still think downing is a good player. and should be kept in the squad

yes he doesn't score enough goals. but he is fast and he puts balls in the box. its not his fault that our team is notorious for not having enough players in the box. I remember dirk kuyt being the only one doing that with torres. babel didn't do it either.

none of our wingers score goals. maybe 1 or 2. so if that's the case. why let him go when its clear we hardly have any players.

ive no idea what's going on with this club. the quality has DILUTED and just look. we got people like alberto and aspas representing Liverpool. its a joke they ain't good enough

12 Aug 2013 10:38:25
Downing had to go last seoasn. I still wonder why did we kept him at 80k wages.
he is a old fashioned traditional winger who plays in 4-4-2, we don't play that anymore, he cannot beat a man.
3 goals in 65 appearence is a great stats and yet west ham is willing to give him 4 year deal.
Hatss off Big Sam

12 Aug 2013 10:56:10
They are both already better than downing

Fans like you ain't good enough to support our club.
Aspas and Alberto haven't even played any competitive games yet.
Downing is not good enough for the money he earns. I agree he would be a good squad player, but it is a lot of money to be sat on the bench.
Support the club and its players. Fickle, fickle, fickle.

You are a joke for slating players who have looked good in pre season and haven't even played in a comepetitive game yet!

Agree Lobster,

A squad is exactly that, if you have a first team player (as he was last season) and you get someone better if he is on the bench the next season surely the squad overall is stronger.

I appreciate that there are other new signings, but we will miss his work covering for Glen at the back.

Harrys spot on there.
Also give aspas and Alberto time before judging, maybe wait until they make their first competitive debut for starters.

12 Aug 2013 12:29:10
Mushroom

Was that at me?. Support the club. Yes no doubt. But support all the managment stuppidity, some awful transfer dealings. No my dear frnd.
I am a good football fan and I like Liverpool.

Lobster - three words for you: Sterling and Ibe

12 Aug 2013 13:50:09
Pronin.
h mate. were you the same guy who said Pre-season is just a game to raise the fitness level and not much else.

Well said MUSHROOM.

Harry, it was aimed at the OP but after what you have just written, then yeah it applies to you now as well.

Id say at a guess aspas and alberto wages combined are what stuart downings wages were, downing did improve but was still not up to it, another bad buy that had to be worked through the system at a loss . I hope we can add to the squad as the neg posters are correct we do look light in certain areas but there is no point buying more downings carrolls etc etc, they have to be the right ones quality wise and I suppose price wise, before you ask I don't have any answers in that regard as i'm stumped on players we can get .

12 Aug 2013 04:45:03
ed's Liverpool echo, guardian, telegraph, the times, all reporting we are close to signing the Granada lb please answer lfcullah {Ed001's Note - you haven't asked a question mate.}

Sorry ed001 I mean is it true lfcullah {Ed001's Note - seems to be yes. Sorry, I should have realised, I was still waking up when I read it, apologies, it is obvious now I look again what you mean.}

12 Aug 2013 09:08:46
Downing to have medical at west ham today. we must have someone else lined up eds? Starting to worry.yes we have signed 4 but apart from one, they are all not really first teamers straight away?

12 Aug 2013 09:41:22
6 mill. Jesus. that's a huge loss.

12 Aug 2013 10:00:11
I really struggle to understand weird clueless posts like this.
Apart from 1? I am 99% certain Simon Mignolet, Iago Aspas and Kolo Toure are all starters. Luis Alberto will also be getting a lot of gametime.

I am 100% sure we will sign 2 more players at least, we have to.

Mignolet, Torre and Aspas are ready. Alberto I do not think is too far away if not ready now. I agree we need a few more in however I have no concerns with any of the news guys at this point.

Andy K

It was a huge price to begin with . its the best we could have got for him . not rodgers fault they were the fees dalglish payed, always said what a disaster that window was . its hurting us big time

12 Aug 2013 10:56:20
Iago Asaps.
Even if all the three starts, we are short of 3 very important positions, actually to win a match.
LW, RW, and pretty solid LB.

I'm with Aspas and Andy K on this. And yes Harry we overpaid for Downing but no more than £4m too much at the time - not all transfers work out. He was worth around £16m we paid £20m and he never played as well for us as he did for Villa.

12 Aug 2013 13:53:49
How on earth was he worth 16 mill?.
he had a pretty good season with Villa. But 16 mill?

Downing didn't live up to expectation. At his wages, leaving is the best option for the club. The fact that he is also getting a 4 yr deal also makes it a good option for him.
. Dalglish and Commoli.

Harry, he was their player of the season. He had been pretty good the season before that but the season just as we signed him he was on fire and yes I would 100% say he was worth around £16m at that time - he was in and around the England team for a while, he was at a good age and he had proven himself for 2 years in a row looking fantastic the season before we got him.

If he had brought his Villa form to us we would have been very lucky to have him.

What would you think he was worth at the time? Anyone else with opinion's on his valuation when we bought him?

12 Aug 2013 09:05:27
According to ssn Stewart Downing is to have a medical at West Ham today after they agreed a fee for his services.

12 Aug 2013 08:07:55
Hi Eds, Anything new regarding Jackson Martinez? saw something while searching on google, crunch sports. used the search here but was old posts.

Cheers! {Ed002's Note - There is nothing new concerning Liverpool.}

12 Aug 2013 07:42:10
I would be delighted with Willian.

So would most clubs but he ain't coming

I think Anzhi rejected a 40 million Euro bid from someone this summer already! {Ed002's Note - Correct.}

12 Aug 2013 05:54:54
Another day and another Wonderkid linked. Am I the only one getting a bit fed up of this Overused term? . Anyhow. Richairo
Zivkovic, 16 years old . Was wondering if any of the Eds has any info on this.

Thanks
YNWA {Ed002's Note - I don;t sorry.}

12 Aug 2013 02:29:33
An Aussie fan here absolutely primed for the season to start. An early kickoff for the first game suits me just fine (will be a 945pm kickoff for us!). Bought my new home jersey last week and have enjoyed the preseason and seeing our new recruits do the business.

I am hoping Sturridge and Borini can have a relatively injury-free season and put a bucket load of goals away. Hope Coutinho can carry last year and preseason form throughout the campaign and that our new boys, particularly Aspas and Alberto, can acclimatise to the EPL well enough.

Good luck to Rodgers and the squad, and good luck to the fans - I hope we have plenty of positives to discuss this season.

12 Aug 2013 00:18:59
Suarez needs to shut up and just hand transfer request in I seriously don't want him in a lfc shirt again he's turned out to be a
Jhon henry and brendan rodgers are going to look silly either way nw if they sell
Or
Keep him and he continues to disrupt the atmosphere at the club


Basy 786

12 Aug 2013 07:39:24
Do u honestly believe we would sell him if he Hands in TR?. Then are u big time delude.
we cannot simply sell him, since we don't ahve replacement.

12 Aug 2013 09:21:06
You're the only deluded one, YES the club will sell him once he hands in a transfer request.
It's all about money for him, stop being a naive child and grow up & support the club not the overrated cheating DF that is Suarez.

12 Aug 2013 10:37:38
The club won't sell him even if he submits TR, truth is there are very little options for Suarez to go, & we don't want to sell him to Arsenal who are only his options at this stage unless are foreign club comes!

We have a replacement Harry, he is called the poster under yours.

12 Aug 2013 13:21:25
Mushroom,

I would say No, he might be the replacement for Downing. I think we would waste him on the wings, should comepte against sturridge for the CF position.
we need 2 wingers this summer, that's a Must and would be great investment for the future.

11 Aug 2013 21:46:39
Hi eds can you tell me wether we signed that young barca striker for are u18s in the end {Ed001's Note - Canos? If so, yes, he has already played in the Milk Cup for us over the summer.}

He scored in the U18's 4-1 win against Birmingham City the other day. Looks a tidy player.

ChrisE