13 Dec 2017 23:02:16
Okay, seeing a lot of stick being directed towards Klopp on this site and on social media as well. Don't fully understand it myself but I thought I would add my own thoughts, as little as they are.

In my opinion, Klopp cannot, and should not, be blamed for the result. He put out a strong team, one that we were all begging for, but the players simply didn't take the chances that they should have taken. The tactics, Klopp's tactics, created chances, kept us defensively solid for the most part, and put us on the front foot for the majority of the match. We were the only team that looked like scoring, besides the odd scare that comes with our shaky defence.

The only thing Klopp can be blamed for us is the late subsitutions, which is a problem that has been apparent since he joined Liverpool. There were many players out there that looked tired and needed to come off (Salah) and others that were playing poorly and should have been removed earlier (Mane) .

That is the only area were I have grievances with Klopp and it is a problem easily rectified. On the whole, Klopp is not at fault for this result. We just didn't take our chances, simple as. A consistent problem, no doubt, but that doesn't make it no less true in this scenario.


1.) 13 Dec 2017
13 Dec 2017 23:16:22
Atleast oxy has been a revelation for us. What a waste of 40 million.


2.) 13 Dec 2017
13 Dec 2017 23:19:16
Players bollocked Klopp for taking salah off when winning 1-0. So now you want him to do it at 0-0?
The hypocrisy is astounding.
Klopp had his best starting 11, maybe Gomez in for lovren. But hands down his best 11 we know off. Didn't score. Had the Fab Four. Didn't score. Looked lethargic and carrying pebbles in pockets, but that's what 99% of you all wanted.
To me two things have been proven, 1. It's nice to have a keeper that can come and catch a ball and 2. Rotation is key. Rafa was the worst for it, his stint wasn't too bad eh.


3.) 13 Dec 2017
13 Dec 2017 23:26:05
Posters not players. It's late 🤦🏼‍♂️.


4.) 14 Dec 2017
13 Dec 2017 23:57:45
I don't think Rafa dropped half the team after a 7-0 win. That's madness.


5.) 14 Dec 2017
14 Dec 2017 00:01:50
I don't understand when people say the manager can't be blamed for the result.
That is the one thing the manager is most responsible for.
Win lose or draw, it's the manager's responsibility and his remit. That is what they are judged on.
If we don't get top 4 or a trophy the owners will not be blaming the players.


6.) 14 Dec 2017
14 Dec 2017 01:20:19
I unfortunately didn’t get to see the game. But I’ll never understand why we ever put Ox in midfield. The only times he’s impressed has been on the wing in a forward position.
Granted idk where he played today but I’ve seen him take some stick.


7.) 14 Dec 2017
14 Dec 2017 04:20:43
If it is not for managers fault, Brendan would be still at the club. Pulis at West Brom, Bilic at West Ham, De-Boer at Palace. Liverpool fans has other ideas!


8.) 14 Dec 2017
14 Dec 2017 07:23:07
On a positive note. In the past we would have lost last nights game and same to Newcastle, Everton and Burnley. We've turned defeats into draws. On that not its step forward. Small steps but still forward.


9.) 14 Dec 2017
14 Dec 2017 07:37:15
Salah missed a header against everton managers fault? mane slipped at a crucial moment against everton, managers fault? Again yesterday against wba we created chances where the ball should be in the net but hey klopp should be on the pitch converting those chances its all his fault.


10.) 14 Dec 2017
14 Dec 2017 08:23:50
It was a good side Klopp put on the pitch and again we created chances. Against Everton and West Brom playing these sorts of tactics, putting one away early is critical because the way they play you won’t get too many clearcut shots on goal, and by the 60th they have gained confidence and become even harder to break down.

You need that first to draw them out. sometimes you get it, sometimes you don’t. Move on. nothing wrong with Klopps tactics apart from maybe subbing a little earlier hopefully.


11.) 14 Dec 2017
14 Dec 2017 08:36:21
klopp is there to make decisions. the rest of the world is there to criticize them.


12.) 14 Dec 2017
14 Dec 2017 12:23:41
Spot on, Grob and KloppDaKop. Blame Klopp for the players missing open chances. Blame Klopp for putting out the team many wanted when it does not work out. Same old, same old stuff. Salah and Mane looked tired BUT had Klopp subbed them off and we drew or lost, people will still be mad.

They forget that these games happen where your strikers are not on form and in some quarters, the refs don't help and only compound the frustrations. We just have to keep working hard and improving cos in the end, that is all you can control as a manager. When the players are on the pitch missing chances, you are powerless.

As for Brendan, he was a failure for the last 18 months of his reign and created a whole mess that Klopp is trying to fix till this day. He deserved the boot and Klopp has improved us steadily since then. Those are the facts.


13.) 14 Dec 2017
14 Dec 2017 12:24:53
Klopp his a top manager who plays attacking football. Play to win, best form of defense is to attack. I will let the haters hate.
I love our style and remember 5mths of woy. We have lost 2 games so far this season City and spurs away.
I said top 4 and a good run into
champions league would be gòod season for me. We are still in the mix so I will keep the faith. Football should be about entertaining the fans. Our manager tries to do that.
Come on you reds.