28 Sep 2016 10:38:48
Allardyce by letter of the law hasn't done anything wrong. Not condoning his actions though as a professional manager whose feet are yet under the table should know better to speak about such sensitive matters to strangers. I do however believe such discussions and behaviours occur frequently in football and you'd be naïve to think this is some kind of one off. I know a very well informed bloke who worked under Frank Arnesen for many years who mentioned back in 2013 that a can of worms will be opened one day and several managers will be publicly slayed by the media. I know another manager who's name will surely come out in the media soon but ethically I don't want to be a bearer of someone else's stupidity.

One thing is for sure, the governing bodies need to pull their fingers out their ass and rewrite the laws over third part ownership. The crying shame is, that isn't an overnight strategy and in likeliness will probably never happen.

1.) 28 Sep 2016
28 Sep 2016 10:50:02
He gave advice and support to people who wanted to sneak third party ownership around the system. How, by the letter of the law, is that not doing anything wrong? It's a bit like saying someone who explained the layout of a bank to known bank robbers wasn't part of the robbery.

2.) 28 Sep 2016
28 Sep 2016 11:18:55
Because what he was saying was legal ways of going around the system. He was an idiot sure but he didn't break any laws.

3.) 28 Sep 2016
28 Sep 2016 11:29:38
agree with hjikle on this one, he was telling people he barely knew how to get around the rules. ( That his employers put in place) . Not only that the FA have been banging on about FIFA ethics for years, totally loses all their integrity if they can't keep their own back yard clean. it was calculated move- Sam has been in football for decades he knows right from wrong. just because rules aren't stated in contracts there is a point where common sense applies as it would in any other job.

4.) 28 Sep 2016
28 Sep 2016 12:21:50
Would he of payed tax on any backhanders he would of got? If not then that in lay mans terms iis that not conspiracy to defraud?

5.) 28 Sep 2016
28 Sep 2016 12:55:28
It's the equivalent of tax dodgers, technically it's not illegal, it's just exploiting loop holes, morally it's very wrong though.

6.) 28 Sep 2016
28 Sep 2016 13:06:08
Well while it may not be illegal it is certainly gross misconduct. You can't go around telling people your employers weaknesses, especially those you know what to exploit them. Not criminal but certainly gross misconduct.

7.) 28 Sep 2016
28 Sep 2016 13:23:29
you were right on big sam, he is an idiot, a greedy idiot, who is on a huge salary, but wanted more . I just love football karma .

8.) 28 Sep 2016
28 Sep 2016 13:31:47
I think it's a blessing in disguise for the FA and The English National team as I personally think they picked the wrong man for the job in Sam Allerdyce and it wouldn't have taken long for them to realise that. He plays 'up and at em' football, loves a long ball to the big man and is behind the times in terms of tactics etc. I bet Andy Carroll is gutted he's no longer in charge! I feel he only had the job as he'd waited patiently for it and made his feelings public. Was he an improvement on Roy? I honestly don't think so! I think England need someone with fresh ideas or who gets their teams playing good football, someone who makes their teams hard to beat but attractive with the ball. I have no names to offer myself but does anyone have any?

9.) 28 Sep 2016
28 Sep 2016 14:37:19
Have I missed something? Has he been arrested?

Who's talking about breaking the law? He's guilty of gross misconduct and his employment has been rightly terminated.

10.) 28 Sep 2016
28 Sep 2016 14:57:48
He may not have broken any laws but he was severely careless and unprofessional which in itself, is wrong and can be considered a sackable offence mainly due to the position he currently holds. He was revealing how to get around the system of third-party ownership hence, he might as well have broken the law. If some think he shouldn`t be held accountable for this then, they are fooling themselves.

11.) 28 Sep 2016
28 Sep 2016 16:07:09
It's a classic question of the letter of the law vs. The spirit of the law - and I for one don't want an English manager that doesn't have enough ethics to tell the difference.

12.) 28 Sep 2016
28 Sep 2016 18:03:00
Spot on, Zimbo. You are England manager and you are supposed to conduct yourself in a professional and ethical manner as the bar is very high for you in these situations. To try to justify him doing what he did by saying "he didn`t beak any laws or the laws were not clear/ should be changed" just illustrates the morally bankrupt society that we now live in.

13.) 29 Sep 2016
29 Sep 2016 08:02:07
Not sure why anyone would support Allardyce on here, he's done nothing but show contempt for Liverpool for years, probably just so he can crawling up Fergie's backside!

{Ed002's Note - It is nothing to do with LFC.}