27 Sep 2016 12:51:59
Hi Ed2, I wondered if you'd like to comment on Allerdyce's situation, I'd like to hear your take.

My initial impression is that what he's said is stupid but he hasn't technically done anything wrong.

{Ed002's Note - I think your initial impression is correct. I also think that one EPL side are again sailing close to the wind with a player taken on this summer. If there is a problem with his ownership they will certainly be demoted.}

1.) 27 Sep 2016
27 Sep 2016 18:25:38
Should we be worried Ed002?

{Ed002's Note - No.}

2.) 27 Sep 2016
27 Sep 2016 18:26:08
Would that team be West Ham Ed002?!

{Ed002's Note - Yes.}

3.) 27 Sep 2016
27 Sep 2016 18:33:22
Please for gods sake confirm that team is not liverpool😂.

{Ed041's Note - it's not.

4.) 27 Sep 2016
27 Sep 2016 18:24:13
No chance it could be Pogba Ed? 😉.

{Ed002's Note - No Ron.}

5.) 27 Sep 2016
27 Sep 2016 18:55:53
This tweet made me laugh

"Sam Allardyce is a disgrace and needs to be punished, humiliated and made an example of. Therefore he should continue as England manager"

6.) 28 Sep 2016
27 Sep 2016 23:51:14
Thank god it's not us 😅👍.

7.) 28 Sep 2016
27 Sep 2016 18:57:03
Would that player be Jonathan Calleri by any chance ed002?

{Ed002's Note - Yes. It is unusual and something that the football authorities would like to end. It is embroiled in an investment company called the Stellar Group who financially control Deportivo Maldonado, a Uruguayan side with no real facilities and a small fan base. They legally hold (or have held) the rights to a number of players who are high profile (Jonathan Calleri, Alex Sandro and Pablo Osvaldo all come to mind) and were "purchased" and then sold on at a significant profit to the London-based investment company and the agent who deals with most of these players, Gustavo Arribas, who is also the Director General of the Argentinian Intelligence Agency. Manchester City would like to purchase Rulli outright but only 70% of his rights are for sale and he cannot therefore play in England. To overcome this, Manchester City have sold their portion of his ownership and Deportivo Maldonado have sold part of their portion of his ownership (in reality Stellar's and Arribas' portion) to Real Sociedad and then agreed to sell the remaining 30% over a three year period to Real Sociedad to overcome Spanish rules regarding part ownership. Manchester City for their part in facilitating this has and agreement that they can buy the goalkeeper for something like €15m once he is fully owned by Real Sociedad (or for a cost of €15M plus a negoiated fee for the remaining rights). As with any buy back clause, they would need to any higher offer made by another side in the future. Rulli would not be eligible for a UK work permit but I understand that he will seek a European passport. That would be seen by the UK as a passport of convenience and would not help him. The player knew that if he moved to Manchester City he would have to be loaned out and eventually probably sold. Like Calleri, none of this is illegal but perhaps it should be - it is well beyond the third party ownership that is rife in South America. Deportivo Maldonado is a effectively a shell for Stellar and Arribas to exploit Uruguayan tax laws.}

8.) 28 Sep 2016
27 Sep 2016 19:34:16
Thought so Ed002 after Valencia's transfer. Which player is it this time?!

{Ed002's Note - Calleri.}

9.) 28 Sep 2016
27 Sep 2016 20:09:20
Sorry eds a little confused with it all. Are west ham in trouble for the same thing as when they signed tevez and mascherano?

{Ed002's Note - It is not the same thing but it is something that could potentially lead them in to trouble if Calleri's ownership is not what they have been told and accepted.}

10.) 28 Sep 2016
27 Sep 2016 20:24:09
Thanks Ed2, it will be an interesting week.

11.) 28 Sep 2016
27 Sep 2016 20:37:29
Honestly that was my take from it as well. I just feel like that is something you reveal in a book or something, not as England's manager and working for the FA. At least he outed the FA a bit, who are the reason our national team is a shambles and why the game in England is badly mismanaged.

12.) 28 Sep 2016
27 Sep 2016 21:38:42
Which player Ed? Have West ham learnt nothing about 3rd party ownership from the tevez masch saga.

{Ed002's Note - West Ham were given assurances that all was well. We have to hope that is true.}

13.) 28 Sep 2016
28 Sep 2016 00:21:50
Thanks for the response ed002, I remember an article at the start of the year on Brighton Hove and Albion ending their interest in Calleri because of an investment group with his rights held by Maldonado but there being no intention of him playing there just to sit with the club until he is resold.

Graham Shear was mentioned to be involved as well (the one who was involved in several Tevez transfers I think? ) . So when Calleris loan to West Ham went through I had wondered how these issues were resolved. Given your information it looks like they might not have been.