13 Jun 2016 15:22:20
One thing to say about zielinski, we have no idea how good he is going to be, especially with the comparison between leagues etc.

One thing i did notice while watching him on youtube is that as soon as he collects the ball, he turns and runs at the opposition. In other words, he is very bright going forward, especially on the break, and a lot more positive than joe allen.

Also, having watched the germany game yesterday, i enjoyed the performances of both mustafi and hector, both looked very solid and would be perfect for us after the departure of kolo.

It is apparent we need a proper winger and although this is match of the day fever talking, anybody have any thoughts on perisic? Was very impressed with his pace and directness at such a high level.

1.) 13 Jun 2016
13 Jun 2016 15:57:03
yes but as you have just said a comparison must be made between the leagues. I'm sure if he and Joe switched clubs and leagues Joe would stand out and have the space to collect and run at lower level opposition. He won't get the time and space in the Premier League. NOT saying he isn't good, just making a point that there is no time in the Premier league. I would guess if we all watch Allen play for wales he will look much better. he is a very important player for a decent international team, who i think could go quite far in the euros.

2.) 13 Jun 2016
13 Jun 2016 16:28:11
here are fans again that think international level is above premier leaugue level. that's why northern ireland won against poland and england won against bad russian team. everyone plays football today and comparations beetween leagues are stupid. if a player is good he is good. there is no time in premier league? i see atleast 10 times in liverpool games when we crave for player that has that fast start and deady ball to start a counter from midfield but our midfielders opt for sideway pass to clyne or moreno. klopp likes players with balls and zielinski has balls. more import thing is wheter the guy is ready to step up and change lifestlye, horrible wheather, food, customs and big expectations.

3.) 13 Jun 2016
13 Jun 2016 17:12:37
Personally I think we need a different kind of midfielder which is why I don't rate the signing of zielinski, he's not the best going forward either. I've watched what I can of him since we apparently signed him and he looks like a poorer version of kovacic. I think he could probably come good in time, I just see it as a replacement for Allen and nothing more (in terms of quality) . But that's just my opinion, for £9.5m this is what it buys your nowadays so no complaints on price, It's just for such an inportant position, a position that can really dictate whether we can come out of the midtable, we need quality players, which zielinski could be, but isn't at the moment. Hence why he doesn't start for Poland.

4.) 13 Jun 2016
13 Jun 2016 17:51:11
he doesn't start for polland bcos euros are the big stage and he is young player. euros are biger stage than any league game will ever be playing for your country! that doesn't mean he will not start next game or that their coach is affraid to go all out attack. sterling and rose are starting for england does that make them excellent players? if klopp sees him in his plans we should give him a chance . this is klopps way. we are all happy when he was appointed and now we don't like his way we want payet, griezmann lol. he recognizes talent very well and from his connections in european football and close friends invesigates their attidude which is what makes a player. and trust me klopp has connections everywhere.

5.) 13 Jun 2016
13 Jun 2016 18:02:02
Mandzo Let me refer to the Eredivisie 14/ 15 mephis depay absolutely smashed the Dutch league and came to England and did what? LigaBBVA di Maria came to England and did what? Falcao Portuguese league French league and also Spain considerd a couple of years ago as one of the best strikers in the world came to England and did what? That comment of all leagues are the same it's just the player absolutely bonkers comment to make.

6.) 13 Jun 2016
13 Jun 2016 18:05:52
Kman92, Henderson doesn't start for England, Can doesn't start for Germany, Lucas doesn't even get picked for Brazil etc. I'm not going to judge a player based on whether his international manager picks him to start.

Make your own opinion mate. Poland have a very good midfield anyway so I fail to see your point.

7.) 13 Jun 2016
13 Jun 2016 18:11:16
But joe one can pick just as many names out the hat who have come to england and bossed it. don't quiet get your point. As mandzo says if a player is good enough it doesn't matter what league he is playing in or comes from.

8.) 13 Jun 2016
13 Jun 2016 18:14:09
With regards to him not playing for poland, it all depends on how the manager sets up the team and how he wants to play which dictates the team. If he was not good enough to play he wouldn't be in the squad. My hodgson in his infinite wisdom didn't play sturridge or vardy when kane was clearly struggling, doesn't mean they are bad players though.

9.) 13 Jun 2016
13 Jun 2016 18:26:09
My concern would be the assumption that a player whose first reaction to getting the ball is to turn and run with it is automatically good. The old adage about letting the ball do the work should stand - our best performances this season came from pass and move, we opened up defences by playing other in, not so much by just running at people all the time. I'd rather we signed players who can see both the pass and where they need to move next before we sign another player who is a second or third level Ronaldo. No offence to the lad, but there is a reason those guys who are running defenders all over the shop are primarily playing in Spain. The EPL won't work with that approach.

10.) 13 Jun 2016
13 Jun 2016 19:52:49
which player from premier league went abroad and had succecsfull carrer? mcmannaman maybe? david beckham? michael owen? stupid facts how many players came from poor leagues like croatian and ukraine and did very well? league means nothing. attitude and never give up guys make it everywhere. if you think it is easy to move on from your friends and family to a rainy country with not so good food, fans with high expectations, and coaches not thinking about training team but who to buy next bcos the money is available you cleary never been anywhere near profi football.