1.) 18 Jan 2016
18 Jan 2016 11:44:30
First it was Lucas, then Lovren, then Allen, now it's Mignolet. The bandwagon keeps rolling. A few error-strewn games and he becomes a perpetual scapegoat who cannot do a thing right. If the same thing happened at the other end people would be saying there's no way that even De Gea could stop a bullet half-volley from close range but because it's Migs he is accused of ducking 'to save face'.
I fully appreciate he has made a number of errors throughout this season (he's made some cracking saves too) but it just shows what kind of negative filter you have to slam him for yesterday's game. Ed002 is sadly on the money about the type of 'supporters' following Liverpool these days.

{Ed001's Note - sorry but you are simply talking rubbish. He fell over backwards because of terrible footwork, it was terrible goalkeeping. It is nothing to do with idiotic fantasy notions of 'negative filter' and everything to do with the fact he is crap with his feet and not much better with his hands. Which is why he has not made these 'cracking saves' you are dreaming of. Not one save he has made was anything other than expected.}

2.) 18 Jan 2016
18 Jan 2016 12:15:49
Totally agree ed1 I've now run out of patience with the bloke I just hope JK has given him an extension to act as a 2nd choice keeper. As for the result yesterday it goes to show what one quality striker can do one shot one goal, how many pathetic attempts did we have with nothing to show? . let's wake up an smell the coffee at the moment we are an average team with some very average players, until we get rid of some of these junk buys an get some quality in we will continue to be a 6th place club.

3.) 18 Jan 2016
18 Jan 2016 12:17:54
I'm the first to blame mignolet, but as a keeper, there's no chance he could saved Rooneys shot or fellainis header if it was a few inches lower. Fellaini was hendersons man and he let him go.

{Ed001's Note - he could have saved Rooney's shot, it was at him and he fell out of the way. I do agree there was nothing he could have done about the original header, but good footwork would have seen him up to face the follow up, rather than stumbling backwards in panic.}

4.) 18 Jan 2016
18 Jan 2016 12:20:50
At what point Ed01, would you accept a simple fact that Fellaini bullied 4 Liverpool players before heading towards Migs? I clearly saw that mate. ☺️.

{Ed001's Note - what has that got to do with anything?}

5.) 18 Jan 2016
18 Jan 2016 12:39:15
We should have won the header in the first place, The only threat Fellaini posses is his heading ability and we knew that well in advance. Fellaini got the header above 4 liverpool players and unfortunate it hit the post. Rooney no matter how old the lion is, A Lion is still a lion wouldn't miss that opportunity. The shot was so powerful and Migs couldn't react.

6.) 18 Jan 2016
18 Jan 2016 12:52:40
Mignolet didn't need to react Harry. If he'd just stood still it would've hit him square in the chest. Instead he threw himself backwards and got such a weak hand to the ball he merely pushed it into the roof of the net.

7.) 18 Jan 2016
18 Jan 2016 13:03:07
I do find it amusing how no one else is mentioning Henderson point blank. The camera was clearly on him marking Fellaini, I even remember thinking to myself why is he marking him! And when fellaini won the header, Henderson was no where to be seen.

8.) 18 Jan 2016
18 Jan 2016 13:00:29
Ed1, I've just watched the goal (sadly/ thankfully I missed the game) and although Migs could have saved it I don't think it's one we should have expected him to save.

Yes he tripped, but he also recovered. He then clearly makes a choice to try and cover the open goal. Sadly Rooney's shot went where he had been. If he'd stood up and the ball had goner into the opposite corner I fear he'd be lambasted for not moving.

{Ed001's Note - I am sorry but you are missing the point, it is not because he moved to cover the goal, it is because he threw himself backward out of the way. How is that covering anything? That makes no sense. If he was covering the goal, he would make himself as big a target as possible, but he did the exact opposite. I would expect a Sunday league keeper to get in the way of that, because I would expect him to have some guts and take the ball in his face, not dive out of the way like Per Mertesacker when a header is coming his way.}

9.) 18 Jan 2016
18 Jan 2016 13:04:15
Complete difference of opinion Ed and you've missed my point also. Mignolet has indeed been average this season. Yesterday he didn't have much to do but also did nothing wrong in my eyes. I'm not singing his praises as a top keeper, m saying certain people will criticise regardless of how he plays, as they did with Lucas, etc. The suggestion that he would fall to the ground to save face just stinks of someone desperate to find fault. There are few keepers in the world who could have saved Rooneys shot in my opinion and like I said if it was De Gea he wouldn't have been criticised and abused in the same way for the incident.

{Ed001's Note - if you think only a few keepers would have saved a shot hit straight at them, then there is clearly no point talking to someone so deluded! How can people believe that crap? It was hit AT him. All he had to do was stay still and cover his angles, like any goalkeeper is taught to do at the basic level.

As for de Gea, it is stupid to bring him into it, how can you compare a world class keeper making one mistake after almost singlehandedly earning Man Utd a top four place last season and keeping them in contention this season to a keeper who has made more mistakes than saves? Of course Migs gets stick, because he is doing this crap every week.}

10.) 18 Jan 2016
18 Jan 2016 13:15:25
Edd001 we all know about mignolet and whether he should have saved it or not yesterday makes no difference Imo. We had the chances to put the game to bed. If mignolet is suppose to save rooneys shot isn't the forward players expected to score mate? We didn't take our chances and Ibe was brought on too late aswell. It was a frustrating game because we threw it away but ultimately our lack of quailty going forward bar firminho and goalkeeper threw away the result.

{Ed001's Note - yes we should have scored, but they had a decent keeper, we didn't.}

11.) 18 Jan 2016
18 Jan 2016 13:23:04
Then we disagree Ed because that's not what I see at all. When he stands up he's covering the near post, he then starts moving to his right before Rooney even connects, when the ball doesn't come the way he expects he can't reverse his momentum so he arches his back sticks his arm out but can't reach. it's his attempt to reach the ball that sends him back not his original movement.

{Ed001's Note - you make no sense, there is absolutely no need for him to fall onto his backside at any point. That helps nothing and certainly does not come from momentum. It comes from poor footwork. He should have kept himself stood up, there is no excuse for falling backwards. I don't know why people are trying to excuse him for this one. Do you all feel sorry for him because he is that bad it led people to take pity on him?}

12.) 18 Jan 2016
18 Jan 2016 13:24:03
Lucas shouldve stayed with his man-rooney-why try jumping with the other defenders and leave the man your marking? No chance of winning the header- no need to do it .

13.) 18 Jan 2016
18 Jan 2016 13:26:12
Uniteds keeper saves that.

{Ed001's Note - I fully agree and that was the difference yesterday. Their keeper saved things, our keeper got out of the way of the one shot on target.}

14.) 18 Jan 2016
18 Jan 2016 13:34:03
Can we all just agree on the fact that for this goal as a defensive unit we where just simply crap.

We couldn't defend a set piece. Again. We where bullied and lost an easy header (although I also take issue with how easy it was for the cross to come in) .

And Mignolet should have made the save. Again. The fact is if he stands tall it smacks him in the chops. Goalkeeping 101: keep the ball out. Doesn't matter what with. Keep it out.

Saying that you have got to take your chances. How often have we said that over the last year or so?

15.) 18 Jan 2016
18 Jan 2016 13:31:11
Have I caught you on a bad day Ed? Just my opinion is all. Didn't expect to be abused and shut down for having a different view of things.

{Ed001's Note - but it is ok for you to do that to the original poster for having a different view to you? Sorry is it only ok when you do it? People are so precious.}

16.) 18 Jan 2016
18 Jan 2016 13:37:39
Ibe thought he had to stay and block a low cross so delayed closing down, poor decision. Then Lucas made it 4 Liverpool players jumping with Fellaini which was ridiculous, I love Lucas but that was a terrible decision. The others should have done better, Benny says Henderson was marking Fellaini I didn't see this but if so then ya that's just plain nuts.

Mignolet then fell backwards/ lay down and got out of the way. Not on purpose but he still did do that and yes I think 80% of keepers would have saved that.

All in all it was more shambolic defending from a set piece.

17.) 18 Jan 2016
18 Jan 2016 13:41:49
I defend Migs when people blame him for goals that just aren't his fault. But migs was poor here, H should have stayed on his fett, there was no need to go to ground, if he stays standing Rooney shot thuds against his face or body. It was poor.

1 thing that I saw some 1 else put was that DDG save vs Can was worldclass. in what realm was a shot that is it straight at a keepers feet from a tight angle world class?

18.) 18 Jan 2016
18 Jan 2016 13:53:16
Think what some people seem to be missing here is the same as what happened against arsenal. Yes we could have arguably defended all 4 goals in both games better but if you have a defense that never gives chances you don't need a keeper. How many matches have Liverpool defended fairly poorly and kept a clean sheet? Rarely if ever. This is the difference the keeper is there for when the defense fails. Yes Henderson was at fault yesterday and lalana and sakho for two on Wed I think but if migs makes the saves when required/ is more dominant then we'd have 3 more points at least this week.

Also read what butland said after Stokes game with arsenal about Peter cech. Basically said at the top level you can't judge a keeper by the saves he makes but the calmness or confidence he instills in the defense. Sadly migs scores 0/ 10 in this category.

19.) 18 Jan 2016
18 Jan 2016 13:51:41
Ed, falling back is a completely logical result of that series of events. You've got this one wrong.

{Ed001's Note - no I have not, poor footwork results in an unbalanced person falling over. Good footwork results in him staying on his feet and the shot hitting him.}

20.) 18 Jan 2016
18 Jan 2016 14:15:18
The reality at the moment with Mignolet in the team is that we pretty much have to score at least one goal to come away with a draw in most matches, and when we're struggling for goals it's an uphill battle.