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03 Feb 2016 10:56:31
Had a chat with a mate this morning about the Leicester game. Anyway we got onto the subject of Caulker and he has heard Caulker was actually put forward by Alex Inglethorpe to the transfer committee. Apparently he worked with him at Tottenhams academy and saw him as a good option. Ed001 you got anything on this?

{Ed001's Note - haven't a clue who put him forward sorry.}


 

 

28 Jan 2016 12:13:09
Rumours around today that we're interested in signing Piotr Zielinski in the summer. Cracking young midfielder but with Hendo, Milner, Lucas, Allen, Can, Grujic, Rossiter, Brannagan, Chirivella and Stewart already at the club, it could be the first clue of a major clearout!

Also seeing stories about Nolito as well. If true I would assume the Teixeira deal is dead in the water.


1.) 28 Jan 2016 14:01:08
Honestly don't see the point in shelling out any money on Nolito. He is too old at 29 and I can't see him adapting to the premier league at that age. We would be better pursuing the Teixeira deal.


2.) 28 Jan 2016 20:31:41
I'm okay with Nolito. Proven goal scorer and could go help us for the next 2 seasons while we get a healthy Ings and Sturridge.


 

 

26 Jan 2016 11:24:09
I don't think Teixeira will happen now. We're clearly not willing to pay €50m. Perhaps we'll move on to Praet. I'll admit I've never watched him but his highlights look good. Fast, good close control, good with both feet, excellent vision, good cross on him, pretty good shot etc. No idea if the highlights flatter him or not but as a younger and cheaper option to Teixeira who Klopp apparently really likes, and whose club will let him leave, he is looking the more likely signing right now.


1.) 26 Jan 2016 12:00:04
To be honest EMS, I have a sneaking suspicion the club might just push the boat out to the tune of 35m plus for this guy. And who knows, they may do the deal in jan hoping that we might still make a CL place this season.
I hate the thought of being fleeced again and i think one day all this will catch up with us somehow, but on the other hand I'm torn about it because he does seem to be steadily improving his performances, albeit against defences of less quality- so he doesn't look like a one season wonder.
If we can't find a cheaper option then 30m plus is where the prices seem to start for quality players- especially those with a few goals in them.
If chelsea are baulking at the price you know its eye-watering, but they already have a mostly world class squad, and if this guy gives us the extra goals to push for a CL place it will go some way to make up for the price.
And all of that totally contradicts what I thought earlier this morning. I think I'm transfer committee material!


2.) 26 Jan 2016 12:02:40
Wouldn't write it off just yet! Realistically I just don't see why we would continue talks if we weren't essentially all in for teixera. I know we've made mistakes like this before but I just feel it will be teixera or no one. I just get the feeling klopp really wants that one player to really kick us on or evaluate properly in the summer. Praet of course could end up being done by the weekend now ha and I'm a bit like you I've never seen him play live. That being said I spent a lot of the last 2 years around central Europe mainly Holland and Germany but some time in Belgium France and Austria and funnily enough a lot of Ajax fans raved about praet saying he was the next big player in Europe don't know if Ajax were interested and they knew or what but he was a player brought to my attention from good word of mouth for sure. Not a lot to base if on obviously but I would still be excited should he sign either. But at the end of the day I just think we are ready to match somewhere near shaktars valuation, it is abundantly clear so why discuss if we're not going to get close.


3.) 26 Jan 2016 12:07:29
Reports saying we want lowendolski
75m from Munich I know this might not be true but if it is then lowendolski is a great player my point is if we can pay that much for lowendolski I if we whant Alex texria then 39m should get him ynwa.


4.) 26 Jan 2016 12:12:26
EMS (hope you are having a better day today by the way), you say Praet is more likely or do you mean preferable?


5.) 26 Jan 2016 12:24:51
More likely psynwa. I'd prefer Teixeira.


6.) 26 Jan 2016 12:28:02
And today is much better thank you psynwa! It's my 22nd birthday so I'm eating cake and getting drunk at the pub tonight whilst I watch Liverpool win 8-0.

{Ed023's Note - Happy birthday}


7.) 26 Jan 2016 12:40:53
Happy birthday ems.


8.) 26 Jan 2016 12:57:18
Cheers Ed0023 and Mick.


9.) 26 Jan 2016 13:16:52
Happy Bday EMS!
And i agree with u about Praet. don't need him at all with all the No. 10's we already have at the club. Texiera fits what we need right now with his pace and versatility in the front line and also knows where the back of the net is.


10.) 26 Jan 2016 13:27:39
All the best Chuck!


11.) 26 Jan 2016 14:01:05
Happy birthday EMS. Keep your pecker up mate lol.


12.) 26 Jan 2016 14:20:28
All the best EMS.


13.) 26 Jan 2016 15:01:42
Happy birthday EMS.

{Ed002's Note - Enjoy.}


14.) 26 Jan 2016 15:12:16
Cheers everyone. You are a lovely bunch ;)


15.) 26 Jan 2016 15:19:13
Happy Birthday


16.) 26 Jan 2016 15:37:00
Happy birthday EMS. Hope you have a great day.

Could one of the Eds pass my email on so EMS can let me have his girlfriends address. I'm quite prepared to take one for the Liverpool Banter team and watch her for the night while he enjoys himself at the pub. I mean that's what the Liverpool family are for. 😂😂.


17.) 26 Jan 2016 15:55:53
Taffy mate, she'll be at the pub with me! She wore a Liverpool shirt on our first date haha. Thought I'd found a keeper but apparently she plays midfield ;)


18.) 26 Jan 2016 16:12:44
I disagree on Praet.

Haven't seen a lot of him, but what I've seen -- doesn't excite me at all. Unlike Teixeira, as an attacking midfielder, he would only be a marginal upgrade-- if that-- on what we have now.

Certainly not as good as either Coutinho or Firmino. Looks comparable to Lallana, in terms of technical ability (but maybe not even) . No real pace. No explosiveness. And certainly no evidence of him being prolific-- 5 league goals in 28 apps last year. And 4 this year through 19.

Honestly, if the Teixeira deal doesn't go through, I'd rather save our money and go after Lacazette, Teixeira, Embolo, Icardi, or someone similar in the summer. No thanks on Praet.


19.) 26 Jan 2016 16:23:15
Praet is very young, Fear. He's certainly not the finished article, but he has shown that he's got a lot of quality at a young age. Do we need another one with lots of potential? Probably not. But if Klopp wants him (he was a target for Dortmund as well as I recall) then I'm willing to see how Klopp sees him getting on. My major reservation with him is he hasn't really kicked on as much in terms of development as I might have thought he would have a couple of years back when he was about the same level in my mind he is now. That all said, Anderlecht play Sint-Truiden on Friday, maybe a good opportunity to see both Praet and perhaps Allan play.


20.) 26 Jan 2016 16:36:30
EMS. Happy Birthday hope the job news doesn't get u down too much but look at job sites I. E Network Rail they are on the look out for similar qualified people like yourself. All the best for the future YNWA.

{Ed001's Note - while on the subject EMS, as you have a bit of time on your hands get in touch with the contact form and we will get you on a poddie.}


21.) 26 Jan 2016 16:41:42
Those are all fair points, RDL, and I trust Klopp's judgment.

Problem, is that Praet would be a pretty expensive for what he has shown so far. My thinking is that if we were picking him up for a Gruljic like price, then I'd be fine with it. But seeing him as a legitimate "alternative" to Teixeira-- which is what EMS first suggested-- is like comparing chalk and cheese.

If we passed on more developed talents, I would much rather spend that same money on another Belgian-- Breel Embolo, who has shown all the things I mentioned: explosive pace, explosive power, both on the ball and in his strikes, and also evidence he scores goals-- 10 goals in 27 appearances last year, in his first season with Basel. And that was as an 18 year old. I'm betting by the time he's 21-- Praet's age-- he'll double that total, and will be even stronger and more powerful.


22.) 26 Jan 2016 16:48:30
Whoops, minor correction: Embolo is actually Swiss (obviously) . I stand by the rest of my post. :)


 

 

09 Jan 2016 19:27:08
Ed002, is there any truth that Liverpool are looking at 23 year old Bulgarian centre back Georgi Terziev of Ludogorets Razgrad? Seems more like a Klopp sort of signing than Ranocchia or Subotic.

Have to admit though, I've only seen him play once and that was against Liverpool last season in the 2-2 draw. So no idea how good he is. Rumours are all over the net though.

{Ed002's Note - Ludogorets' Georgi Terziev was subject to an enquiry from Inter Milan in the summer, but they were scared of by a €5.3M asking price they were quoted. He was also previously watched by Celtic and Krylia Sovetov. I am not aware of any Liverpool interest and would be fearful if there were as he would not improve the first team squad.}


1.) 10 Jan 2016 00:15:45
Thanks for your opinion on his ability Ed. Like I said, I've not seen enough of him to judge so I'll take your word on it.


2.) 10 Jan 2016 01:05:55
Used to watch him before. The lad has potential, but Bulgarian defenders are prone to lapses of concentration that will not suit the team well. Think he might be somewhat ahead of Ilori in terms of physical development and experience, but in recent years the Ludogorets defence as a whole has stagnated somewhat, and I have not been overly impressed with Terziev. Not what we need - though I would be elated to see a countryman wearing the proud red jersey.


3.) 10 Jan 2016 10:53:13
Cheers Drigan. Great insight.


 

 

07 Jan 2016 16:29:22
Did a search and the last post was on 17th December so I was just wondering if the reports today that Liverpool want Xhaka have any substance? £37m seems a bit steep for a red card waiting to happen. Great player when he's not banned though.

{Ed002's Note - Granit Xhaka signed a new long-term contract but there is interest from Napoli, Atletico Madrid and Inter. If he were to become available, interest from England may arise. Previous interest from Stoke and Everton is gone. Newcastle, Valencia, Manchester City, Spurs, Napoli and Arsenal have scouted the player this season and any would likely continue that interest with a bid if he were available. I can completely discount Inter at this time and although interested Atletico are needing to plan very carefully knowing that they have a significant issue on the horizon. Whilst the summer seems a more likely time for a move but Napoli will continue to push for a January move.

Perhaps it is his brother Taulant there is interest in - he will be moving this month.}


1.) 07 Jan 2016 18:08:22
Does the Atletico issue have anything to do with the possible departure of Diego?

{Ed002's Note - No, a transfer ban.}


2.) 07 Jan 2016 18:38:30
Cheers Ed. And Taulant is an equally good player to be fair but I think he also has discipline issues. 2 brothers, half a season, 5 red cards!


3.) 07 Jan 2016 21:10:09
Nice family the Xhaka's.


4.) 08 Jan 2016 15:53:37
A midfield composed of Xhaka Can?


 

 

 

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22 Mar 2016 13:40:40
Why don't people rate Henderson as a captain? A captain doesn't have to be the best player in the team. A captain should be somebody vocal and/ or who leads by example. Gerrard was never vocal but in his earlier years he put a shift in and led by example, covering every blade of grass.

Roy Keane had little to no actual skill. But he would die for the cause and if he saw anyone not pulling their weight dhe'd hammer them. Souness was the same except he matched his passion with ability.

Another key role a captain should play is being a role model to younger players.

Henderson is very vocal on the pitch and without him E. Can looks terrible. He runs himself into the ground for the team and is currently playing through the pain barrier. And off the pitch he sets a great example with commitment and good behaviour. I think he's a far better captain than Gerrard ever was. He isn't as technically gifted or capable of winning the game single handedly but one of Gerards biggest problems was he kept everyone else in line so he could be the hero. Whenever he played people were scared not to pass to him. He had a clause that he had to be the biggest earner!

Yes, Henderson needs to work on his finishing and final ball. But to question his leadership qualities is just ridiculous. The only better candidate for captain in our team is Lucas.


1.) 22 Mar 2016 13:54:08
Completely agree EMS. I think he is an ideal captain and think that in a few years he'll be one of the top CMs in the league. He's still young and has a lot of potential.


2.) 22 Mar 2016 15:04:26
To Say Keane had no skill is a dumb line mate. what's your take on Souness and Hansesn then? Liverpool Captains over the years were stand out performers and winners. When things go down well you look up to them. Henderson needs to work on his finishing? He has scored a might 1 goal this calender year and 19 foals in a tota1 150 appearence.
He got lucky with the timings of Gerrard retirement and his own fine season under Rodgers.
If Klopp gets a world clas CM to Partner Can, Then I am afraid he goes to the bench.

Just saying.


3.) 22 Mar 2016 16:27:15
U lost the argument when u said Keane had no skill then go onto to list his skills.

Move on nothing to read here.


4.) 22 Mar 2016 16:48:51
Ctr I read these daily.


5.) 22 Mar 2016 17:30:34
He's not half as talented as those players mentioned at the same age mate. To bring up Keane, Gerrard and Souness.
And then mention Jordan, he isn't going to be anywhere near as good as them. Not in a million years will he be as influential as them 3.
I like him, but he's not even the best midfielder at the club.


6.) 22 Mar 2016 18:17:54
Keane? Signed by Clough and Fergie. Says it all for me.


7.) 22 Mar 2016 20:16:11
Where as Henderson was rejected by Ferguson.


8.) 22 Mar 2016 22:35:31
Not and never will be in the same hemisphere as Gerrard, Souness or Keane for that matter. Even when he was on the very top of his game in 2014 I had the opinion that a lot on here overrated him and I still have that opinion. I've always loved the lads attitude and work rate and I know he's been out injured and may take time to get back to his best but please stop classing him with some truly great players.


 

 

14 Mar 2016 11:26:09
Ed002 a quick question if you have the time. Götze has confirmed that he still exchanges text messages with Jurgen Klopp. Can this be considered as tapping up? Or would that only be an issue if the text messages were related to a transfer to Liverpool? I imagine a lot of players stay in contact with their old bosses wouldn't they?

{Ed002's Note - Right, he had played for him before so talking and sending messages won't be an issue. If however it discusses a transfer then that would indeed be construed to be an illegal appreoach.}


1.) 14 Mar 2016 13:34:13
Fergie was always in touch with his ex players, especially the ones that came through the ranks under him. Very common with good managers i think.


2.) 14 Mar 2016 14:11:23
Is it considered tapping up if the player asks the coach? Is the entire topic off-limits, or just the coach/ manager talking about it?

{Ed002's Note - It is all off limits Colin.}


3.) 14 Mar 2016 15:02:56
Cheers Ed002. A font of knowldege as always!


4.) 14 Mar 2016 16:13:16
How about if I get my grandma to text him?


5.) 14 Mar 2016 17:53:29
Is your grandma Karen Brady?


6.) 14 Mar 2016 20:40:59
I'm assuming that if Klopp wanted to ask him the question he'd go through someone like Can. Pretty sure we did the same with Robbie Keane back in 2001 with Gary McAllister - but he text Robbie Fowler by mistake! Hence Fowler finding out Houlier wanted rid of him.


 

 

08 Mar 2016 10:24:25
You can currently watch Sheyi Ojo scoring a hattrick against Middlesborough u21's on the club website for free. First 2 goals were great. Nice penalty to bag his third.

Also shows the difference between a dive and a genuine fall as Middlesboroughs player falls nearly a second after the contact was made!


1.) 08 Mar 2016 10:37:01
Yes it was a very good performance ojo's a real speedster and some nice finishes to boot.


 

 

06 Mar 2016 17:04:23
People are not seriously debating if that was a penalty are they? Delaneys knee blatantly takes Bentekes trailing leg out. Anybody who is saying he's gone down easily has clearly never been clipped whilst running at any sort of pace. The slightest knock can throw your balance. Benteke had a 200lb man slam into his ankle!

I don't care what Collymore said on the radio. The guy is so critical of Liverpool because of his massive failure at the club that his opinion on our games is almost invalid. Plus he's about as clued up on the game as my 5 year old cousin.


1.) 06 Mar 2016 17:15:33
He said, and the commentator said that " contact was minimal " :-/ but there was contact, right? So yes defo pen .


2.) 06 Mar 2016 17:19:02
Agreed. We deserved to win, finally we make our own luck.

If United had won like this, the so called pundits would be fawning.


3.) 06 Mar 2016 17:20:59
Off course it was. If you feel contact you go down. Its been like that for years whether you like it or not.


4.) 06 Mar 2016 18:11:43
200lb man slam into his ankle 😂😂 I think it was a pen but I think you were watching the UFC.


5.) 06 Mar 2016 19:39:00
The contact was minimal and may not have warranted a penalty BUT that's the way they call them these days as any contact in the box is now a penalty. We were the better team after the red card and deserved the three points after creating the better chances after the red card. klopps changes made the difference while Pardew himself said his changes didn't affect the game as he had hoped. The bloke got tactically schooled and out thought. Serves him right for his pathetic behavior in the reverse fixture at Anfield.


6.) 06 Mar 2016 20:32:43
Lets face facts, ANY player in that situation would have gone down, mimimal contact or not not, end of.


7.) 06 Mar 2016 23:25:36
Colly is a twonk. If we'd been playing anyone other than Palace, Villa or Forest then he would say 'penalty'.

It was a penalty and to be honest contact is not necessary. However, there was contact so it is a clear foul = penalty.


8.) 06 Mar 2016 23:36:30
I don't know that I'd have given the penalty if I were the ref, but it was a pretty dumb challenge to be making in the first place. Benteke was going nowhere and had no support- only one to blame really is Delaney for giving Mariner a decision to make in the first place.


9.) 07 Mar 2016 01:10:23
collymore is a vile human being who should be grateful he has a platform to spout his crap.


10.) 07 Mar 2016 01:57:34
Mariñer didn't give the penalty. His assistant did because he saw what the replays showed that Mariner couldn't see and it was the right decision. Move on.


 

 

03 Mar 2016 13:40:04
A lot of people are still questioning Klopp mainly because our record didn't improve instantly under him. However he's now had a reasonable amount of time at the club, has better players available, and has had more than 2 days of unbroken training without a game!

And here we are in our last 3 games with 9 goals scored in our last 2 premier league games (and zero conceded), 2 clean sheets in Europe and progression to the next round, and took a top team to penalties in a final. In fact in our last 5 games we've won 3 and drawn 2 (excluding the penalties) scoring 11 and only conceding 1 in that time frame! Two of those games were against Manchester City!

We got criticised for conceding too many goals and Klopp has rectified that without cutting our goals being scored.

No progress? Get out of here you pessimistic bunch ;)


1.) 03 Mar 2016 15:20:03
You should be a politician lad you are the king of spin when it comes to suiting your own argument.

"2 clean sheets in Europe" - to a team struggling in the Bundesliga and where we needed a penalty to score and progress.

"9 goals in 2 premier league games" - a true stat but let's add some context: one of those teams was a truly woeful, definitely relegation bound Aston Villa whose defence was truly, truly awful. The other was a quality City side and that result was great. The point being is using stats, as the backbone of your opinion, is daft.

"took a top team to penalties in a final" - a team we rinsed 3-0 days later. A final we were lucky to take to penalties given the amount of chances they had and the poorness of our play and a final we could and should of done better in.

The three games before the ones you are lauding us for were a 2-1 loss at West Ham in the FA Cup, a 2-2 draw at home to a bad, struggling Sunderland side who were 2-0 down with 15 minutes to play and a 2-0 hiding by a team who wanted it more in Leicester.

Stop using stats lad, it is a ridiculous way of justifying your point. The crux of what you say - that Klopp has and will improve us - I agree with, but the way you express it and the spin you try to put on it is just grim. Please mate no more stats.

{Ed001's Note - hang on, how were we lucky to take them to pens? They were lucky you mean, as what else can you say when the goalie lets a simple save slip through like that?}


2.) 03 Mar 2016 15:42:48
The goalie was rank and that goal was fortuitous but on the balance of play I think City were much better than we were for much of the game and had numerous chances to bury it. We had very few chances, did little to really stretch or test City (unlike yesterdays game) and ultimately did not deserve to win that final. This is only my opinion but I think there was more to the game than just the 2 goals and, on the balance of the game, I think City were much better. If the shoe was on the other foot we would have been cursing our luck and wondering why were unable to score - instead we were happy to still be in it come penalties - honestly I don't think there was much for us to be lauded for in that final.


3.) 03 Mar 2016 15:58:07
EMS, in defence of people like me (and Seano apparently) it was never about doubting Klopp it was about casting a critical eye over what was actually happening and not participating in hyperbole. As you point out we've had a decent run of form and I hope that Klopp's turned a corner but as Seano points out this run was preceded by some awful games. With any luck we're witnessing the start of something great but I think I'm going to wait to see if we can sustain this form for a little while before I let myself believe we're on the up.

Ed1, in relation to your response to Seano, although the scoreline is far more important than performances or chances created, suggesting City should feel lucky they made it to penalties is a massive stretch if for no other reason that they were denied one of the most blatant penalties you're ever likely to witness. City outplayed us and it would have been a massive smash and grab if we'd won.


4.) 03 Mar 2016 16:48:53
4 clean sheets in 5 games? It's ridiculous to suggest that is anything but good when we've played away in Europe and against title contenders twice. Augsburg are struggling in the league but they've been good in Europe this season. Also they have a great away record and before we faced them they lost 3-1 to Bayern Munich. So they're hardly whipping boys. If our defence did what Bayerns couldn't and kept them out not just in 90 minutes, but in 180 minutes then what's your problem?

City were the lucky ones. They needed a fluke goal thanks to poor keeping to get to extra time, they spent the 30 minutes of ET clinging on for dear life, and then Cabellero stood a yard off his line for half the penalties which is cheating.

Whatever way you look at this we've conceded one goal in 5 thanks to poor keeping from Migs, got through in Europe, taken 6 points from 6, and scored 11 goals in the process; narrowly missing out on silver ware due to a dodgy shootout. How am I spinning anything? I'm just stating facts and saying that I think we're improving. Surely improving is scoring more and conceding less? that's just football basics. Spinning stats would be pointing to thinks like shots on target, possession, corners won etc to claim we're improving. Scoring and keeping clean sheets is how you win football matches. But don't worry, I get it. "Oh look an EMS post! let's hound him for using stats in a completely relevant context, backed up with logic and opinion because it's the done thing! " *sarcastic thumbs up*.


5.) 03 Mar 2016 17:37:38
We beat Villa 6-0, their biggest defeat of the season. A team at the bottom of the league, true but where unbeaten at home since December until Liverpool stuffed them. don't under estimate what Liverpool done. Credit where it is due.


6.) 03 Mar 2016 17:39:53
Nobody's arguing with your facts or that things have been good over the course of the last few games but you're using it as evidence that people shouldn't have doubted Klopp. If we lose our next three games are you going to decide that Klopp's worthless? Of course not.

Klopp is currently neither a good or bad Liverpool manager, he's just our current one. When he demonstrates he's raised the performance of the team over a sustained period that may change but there isn't a sufficient body of evidence to say that with confidence yet.

P. S. They only lost 3-1 to bayern which shows they're not whipping boys. Seriously?
P. P. S. Dude, you're in massive denial if you think we were somehow robbed in the League Cup.


7.) 03 Mar 2016 18:00:18
You shouldn't have doubted Klopp partly because it's ridiculous to make any assessment this early in his tenure, but secondly because he asked us to change from doubters to believers 😎.


8.) 03 Mar 2016 18:11:47
I don't think it's fair to attack EMS's stats In this case. They are relevant in this instance and he makes a good point about our recent form.
In contrast, I don't think EMS's original post was particularly fair on the others posters either.
Klopp did not bring with him much of a change of fortune when he arrived. As Ed02 pointed out, his win % was equal to Hodgesons,
Now, I hadn't actually seen anybody giving Klopp any stick per say, but people were/ are just as entitled to question his methods much the same as we all did under Rodgers.
I think the biggest a problem if I'm being honest was a lot of th supporters (myself included) put Klopp to high on the mantle to early, we expected bigger things out of him than perhaps we should have, and I believe this has shocked some.

With regards to the form, I certainly hope you are correct EMS and we are starting to turn a corner, I must admit we do look pretty hard to beat at the moment, even in games we aren't playing well. However I'm sceptical it's another false dawn, so I won't be expecting us to play any better for the rest of the season than we did in the beginning and the middle, if anymore comes from it then it's a bonus.


9.) 03 Mar 2016 18:25:29
just take it 1 game at a time, next up crystal palace, let's have revenge for that anfield defeat.


10.) 03 Mar 2016 18:38:39
We have been hard to watch at times. I'm not with this clean sheets etc stuff. I look at our goalkeeper and backline and I see major weaknesses. Klopps had injuries but it's been a hard season as expected. The only thing klopp has been truly criticised and warranted for is mignolet.


11.) 03 Mar 2016 19:01:07
I watched the match back today on MOTD. I tell you what I loved about Kloppo:

1) His burst of laughter when he said "I heard Bayern lost"- classic 2 fingered salute to Bayern 😆

2) When Milner had a shot saved at the end of a brilliant move Kloppo got up clapping with a determined look on his face followed by slapping his own leg with a passionate grimace.
As if to say 'that's what I want, that's what we're working so hard to achieve'.

You can tell this is no "stepping stone" job for him. Yes he might move on in the future, but he is putting 100% into this job and it means everything to him. I feel he is 100% committed and it's great to see.


12.) 03 Mar 2016 19:22:18
Those undermining Klopp are either BR`s apologists at the time because their darling got the boot deservedly or the ones reading the partisan hacks in the media trying to undermine him by posting pathetic statistics like win % or whatever and interviewing BR anytime they got and then twist his words as a dig on Klopp. I never doubted him and won`t until he proves me wrong, just like BR proved many of us wrong. As for Muscatred, Ed01 is right. Go watch the game again. City were so scared of getting thumped again that they played THREE DM`s and sat back, playing on the counter. They did nothing per the long punt to Aguero that cased the shot that hit the post. We were in NO danger until Mingo flew in to help them out. At that point, we chased the game and they got chances on the counter. That doesn`t mean they played better. They had and advantage and chose to defend and it backfired because we kept plugging away, never gave up and equalized. And judging by the way they got thumped last night, it shows again that Pello would be happy about one thing whn he departs this summer. He would never have to deal with LFC in the PL anymore.


13.) 03 Mar 2016 19:54:36
EMS come on mate don't play that "everyone is picking on me card" We all know you had a very public disagreement with the eds but let people express their opinion on your views without being made to feel guilty. Seano had a very valid counter argument yes we've made some improvements but using stats as you did to make your point should be questioned given the opposition. In terms of the cup final we were lucky to get to extra time and they were lucky to get to pens it's as simple as that for me.


14.) 03 Mar 2016 23:43:12
Tbh i kinda agree with Seano, i don't like it when people twist stats like politicians to suit arguments, although i do agree with your overall point.

If someone really wanted to twist stats in their favour they could say that, i think it was a few games ago ed002 said this, klopp had less points after the samr number of games as hodgson.

But using our eyes we know that is just out of context.

Within context, some players have improved and it definately isn't the hopelessness under rodgers. We've put in some class performances once every blue moon and the rest are just let down by the few. That said, the serial offenders all were brilliant last night, so maybe they can keep it up and make us eat our words, but i am not holding out much hope.

Its quite clear things are being held back by certain factors and that next season things will hopefully be very different. Its crap right now but things are on the up in the long term. I don't need any clean sheet numbers to tell me that.


15.) 04 Mar 2016 04:04:36
credit where its due for the defence when they keep clean sheets its only fair, we slag them off quick enough when they concede, the stats say only 1 goal conceded in 5, that is an improvement, also 9 scored in 2 games, i'm happy with that.


16.) 04 Mar 2016 07:51:46
Blimy, you can tell we're on a Liverpool forum. Someone points out a run that by anyones standard is good form (5 games, 11 goals, 1 conceeded) and how that involved some pretty tough games on paper, and all people can do is have a go because some number are involved. Like EMS says we aren't talking shots on target % here we're talking the basic numbers of football - balls in our net, balls in opposition net, points on the table/ progress in the cup! If you call those invalid stats and political spin then frankly I don't know how you judge success in football. Random guesswork I assume, which would explain the fear of someone pointing out a few actual measurable results.


 

 

 

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30 Jan 2016 13:20:15
Cahill isn't brilliant, and he'd also relatively old. The sad thing is he'd walk into our team still!


 

 

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29 Jan 2016 13:06:42
I have seen him play a fair few games Ed002 and he reminds me of the Tottenham player Moussa Dembele. His best attributes are his power, tenacity, work rate, vision and composure. I think he could be excellent in midfield for us but if he was signed as a striker I'd have my doubts. When you say increased interest in him how do you mean? Additional scouting, enquiry, bid, approached his agent etc?

{Ed002's Note - There has been representation at (at least) the recent Tondelo game where he scored and the Pacos de Ferreira wghere he scored twice.}


 

 

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29 Jan 2016 12:50:33
Excellent read Ed, thank you. Any idea when you'll be posting the full summary?
Also if you don't mind me asking do you think Vazquez is a good player? I only ask because 3 goals so far this season seems a low return for an attacking player valued at e30 million!

{Ed002's Note - He is certainly well thought of EMS - as for goals I don't know what he has been up to with out checking.}


 

 

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26 Jan 2016 15:55:53
Taffy mate, she'll be at the pub with me! She wore a Liverpool shirt on our first date haha. Thought I'd found a keeper but apparently she plays midfield ;)


 

 

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26 Jan 2016 15:12:16
Cheers everyone. You are a lovely bunch ;)


 

 

 

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26 Mar 2016 13:50:11
Ginja if you must know, I am gender-less. I have ascended above mere human form and thus have no physical sexuality. I believe in my past form though I was a male with one memorable hobby in particular which involved womens clothing.


 

 

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26 Mar 2016 13:38:17
Gerrard was probably right up there. I remember his lay off free kick against Newcastle. If it had hit the wall there would've been a fatality.

Having said that Riise did break Alan Smiths leg with a shot so perhaps left footers can really let fly? Van Persie was packing a serious belter. As is Gareth Bale!


 

 

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26 Mar 2016 13:27:16
Lorenzo Insigne probably Ed.


 

 

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24 Mar 2016 19:41:41
I shouldn't need to remind you this but if Henderson hadn't been banned in the last few games of the 13/ 14 season we would have a league title. That midfield had Coutinho, Henderson and Gerrard in it. Aside from set pieces, is Can worse than Gerrard in the holding role? No not even close.

Our problem is that in that season we had a fit Flanagan, a fit Sturridge, Sterling and Suarez. I actually don't think Clyne is at all better than Glen Johnson. Lovren-Sakho isn't much better than Skrtel-Sakho. The midfield is just as strong if npt stronger than the midfield that nearly won us the league and probably would've had it not been for a young Henderson making a rash mistake.

So by all means, everyone continue to spout this nonsense about Henderson not being good enough. But to be quite frank, it's just classic fickleness from people who can't remember as far back as two years to when we were top of the league on an 11 game winning run with Henderson at the heart of our team.


 

 

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24 Mar 2016 13:46:53
Hendo is positionally sound though? If he gets forward he bombs back into position. Can I will admit gets sucked out of position. Stewart and Chirivella have excellent positional sense hence why they took apart West Ham in the cup only to be let down by the rest of the side. They dominated the middle of the park though. Rossiter hasn't played much first team football but his oustanding attribute at youth level was his intelligence and reading of the game as physically he is slow and weak. Lucas has great positional sense but is lacking the pace to stand up a man. They can just kick it past him now and run after it.

So your comment that none of them have positional sense is just ridiculous. If I was looking at that list looking for faults the only glaring issue there is a lack of goals from the centre of the park. Alonso and Masch didn't score much though. But by providing a solid base they gave the attackers freedom to go forward with more purpose.

I completely disagree that we need a holding midfielder now with the emergence of Stewart and Chirivella this season. I'd focus more on on a left back, keeper, and right forward. What is the point in having an academy if we ignore players as good as Chirivella? He has shown me enough to believe that when he bulks up he will be a top top player.