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16 Jul 2015 20:39:20
When the benteke deal goes through, Rodgers will be the highest spending Liverpool manager in the clubs history.
£312.8m in 4 years
Benitez in second with
£309m in 6 years

Longshlongutd

1.) 16 Jul 2015 20:58:52
Yes but media deals have increased a lot since then and players prices. We also sold Suarez and Stirling, a few high salary players left also. Yes I know in the Benitez days players were sold also it's never just that simple.


 

 

15 Jul 2015 03:21:22
I think ings should start, the guys very good, and a lot quicker than I remember.
I know we played a poor team but I was very impressed.
I'd like to see ings in the second half team for Ibe. Changing the formation to the 442 diamond.

Longshlongutd

1.) 15 Jul 2015 09:44:32
Thought Ings was great!!

Good pressing, Love his attitude ending his holiday early to go on tour, Taking a different shirt to prove his worth,

Did you also notice how he got frustrated towards the end of 1st half when we slowed the ball down as he wants to play quick football,

Before I say this I am in no way comparing the guy to Suarez but that is what Suarez used to do and demand quicker ball which made us look dangerous regardless of the player - Ings and Sturridge in a diamond for me


 

 

14 Jul 2015 06:32:05
Yesterday's pre game practice teams were

Clyne skrtle lovren Moreno
Allen
Hendo - Milner
Ibe lallana
Origi

V

Wisdom toure sakho Gomez
Rossiter Lucas texeira
Ings lambert markovic

Now I remember reading a report at the end of the season saying we would be willing to sell Lucas because Rodgers is happy with Allen playing that deep DM position.
Looking at the set up, it looks like that's true.
If we go into the stoke game with Allen holding, skrtle starting, Lovren over sakho? And Moreno who can't defend. We will loose.

Longshlongutd

1.) 14 Jul 2015 07:55:01
I'd be more worried about going into the game without a keeper. There's a long time between now and Stoke.


2.) 14 Jul 2015 08:11:31
They're just practice games. All sorts of combos will be tried out pre season. Don't read anything into it.


3.) 14 Jul 2015 08:14:56
The fact he continues to play skittles proves he has absolutely no idea what he's doing.


4.) 14 Jul 2015 09:12:26
Lucas was in the starting 11 when we lost to Stoke 6:1 last game of the season. Same with Sakho (which I personally think is our best defender but he wasn't so great that day). Lovern was actually on the bench. And Can started as well. For me the worrying thing is if you look at all of the above names together it is just not strong enough a squad regardless who you play. Without a top class sriker, without a top class DM and maybe one or two more top class players - we will struggle again in Stoke let alone against other top 4 teams.


5.) 14 Jul 2015 09:22:12
Lucas is a top DM. It was clear on that day the players had lost all faith in the manager


6.) 14 Jul 2015 09:22:54
Lucas is not a Deep Lying playmaker and when you play a Diamond, your anchor should be a DLP not a DM.


7.) 14 Jul 2015 09:24:24
I agree with Fanobip, We need a top class Center Midfielder which we don't have, I have my bets on Kovacic to join.


8.) 14 Jul 2015 09:27:33
Allen doesn't half get some unfair stick on here. Don't get me wrong, he isn't the greatest defensive midfielder but when he has been involved in games such as 2-2 with Man City, 5-0 vs Spurs, 1-0 vs Belgium (for Wales) it is just ridiculous to say we "will" lose if he so much as steps on the pitch. He is not a bad player and defensive midfield is definitely his best position. Sure, we could do better. I personally think Lucas is better. But we don't get to see them train and we don't know what Rodgers wants from them. So maybe hold back a bit on abusing one of our players?


9.) 14 Jul 2015 09:45:41
What i don't understand is why are people taking teams used in training at their face value?


10.) 14 Jul 2015 09:48:06
EMS

I agree on your views on Allen. He is a CM with nt much creativity, but would work well with a Top class DM alongside him. But don't expect him to play the way Fabrigas or Modric.

Mate, Is it very hard to udenrstand you cannot deploy a DM at the Basewhen you play a Diamond?.

Lucas does the simple job well and clear, Break up the play, but like Busquets he needs a top class Creative CM alongisde to dictate the game. Lucas cannot start an attack by himself and No DM could ever, So does chelse plays Fabrigas alongside Matic and Xavi alongside Busquets, Alonso alongside Modirc, Coqueline with Carzola and Scwinstiger with Schniderlin.

Liverpool don't have it.


11.) 14 Jul 2015 10:04:18
Allen is a decent squad player, don't see how he makes the team ahead of Lucas, Can, Milner or Hendo though. For me he's for the bench/Europa and as injury cover


12.) 14 Jul 2015 10:21:21
European glory, what is your problem with Henderson and Milner? They are both creative ball playing midfielders. They got a combined total of 24 assists last season. There is nothing wrong with a defensive midfielder playing at the base of a diamond. Song worked for West Ham last season, Essien worked for Chelsea etc.

People seem to think that in order to start attacks from deep you need to hit a 60 yard raking diagonal. Sometimes just a 20 yard forward pass into feet or a 30yard ground pass out to a bombing full back is just as effective at starting an attack. Besides, Henderson is capable of those raking diagonals if that's what you so crave.


13.) 14 Jul 2015 10:23:18
Yeah I agree we need to add 2 top class players into the squad we see there.
How about coutinho and firmino?
Add a top striker: Sturridge
Add a top defensive mid: no need while we have Lucas and Can.
The squad is bloated if anything, we need to get the players playing as a team more than anything.
I'm hoping the new coaching changes turns them into a unit, Brendan will give himself the credit but I don't care as long as the results are there.


14.) 14 Jul 2015 10:26:39
Don't forget we have Can, Ilori, Firmino, Coutinho and were clearly looking to purchase a striker.


15.) 14 Jul 2015 11:14:06
EMS

Henderson is a good player. He is never going to dictate the game from the middle of the park, His biggest strength is not passing, but getting into the box and scoring a few goals. He is the best compared to Vidal and would never be a fabrigas or Modric.

Both Henderson and Milner are hard working ball winning Midfeilders especially off the ball when you press high.

We need a creative Center mid. the one very similar to Pjanic and there is a big differnece between Henderson and Pjanic.

Now coming to the style we play, especiall majority wants us to play the diamond with cuntinho at the tip and Firmino off the striker, we need a player as good as Gerrard ( spraying balls ) at the base.

The club is very right in looking out for Kovacic and you would see what he brings to the team if deal goes through.

Providing assist and being creative is two different things for me.


16.) 14 Jul 2015 11:57:05
Personally I think you're massively under selling Henderson in particular. Only player I'd swap him for is Cazorla.

I much prefer Henderson to Fabregas, Toure etc. He offers more defensively and still offers plenty going forward. He can and does dictate the game.


17.) 14 Jul 2015 13:46:21
European glory: "when we get kovacic"
"Kovacic will do this"
"Kovacic will win us the league"
"Kovacic"

I agree with EMS, Henderson makes the midfield tick attacking and defensively and Milne will do same.
Kovacic would be a good addition but won't make us a million times better


18.) 14 Jul 2015 12:59:27
EMS

Not at all, Henderson would score goals and we need him to charge into the box so does Milner. Both are good off the ball when you press high and win the ball back.
I would suggest you look at Modric and what does for Real or with Spurs.
Fabrigas is one hell of a player and without doubt second best CM after Xavi.

The reason we bought Allen was to play that role which he couldn't as he doesn't offer anything other than keeping the ball. We need a better version of Wilshere or someone similar to carzola.

Kovacic if you pair him with Lucas or him alone would complee our midfield. Else it would be again countinho to do all the tricks and flair.


19.) 14 Jul 2015 13:21:51
I don't think the eds will agree with your choice at the tip of the diamond Harry.


 

 

 

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