11 Sep 2017 17:19:28
What puzzles me most with our defence is how often Klopp changes the personnel.

Across the back four and goal keeper we have swapped players and we have only just started the season - how can they possibly start to get an understanding.

Its clear that we need to be more vocal, organised and have greater desire to not let a goal in.

I would go with Ward, Robertson, Lovren, Gomez and TAA. As many "home grown " players as possible that hopefully have the desire and willingness to do all that is possible to stop goals.

On Saturday, when going down to 10 men - this harms your attacking options, but we should still be able to defend well enough to stay in the game and frustrate city . the capitulation was awful.

1.) 11 Sep 2017
11 Sep 2017 17:36:56
You're right, the capitulation was awful.

But. it isn't the first time a team have folded under those circumstances and I doubt it will be the last either.

You could see before the red that a few of the lads were tired after international duty (which shouldn't be forgotten) and red card, quickly followed by a second goal made their heads drop.

As was said during match commentary, if we had got in at half time still 1-0 we could have re-grouped and possibly nicked a goal but the damage was done.

I'm not making excuses for them as I do agree with you to an extent. But, I think it's one of them games we just need to forget about as of now and look forward to Wednesday night.

2.) 11 Sep 2017
11 Sep 2017 17:50:02
I did not see us getting anything out of the game when Mane was sent off but damage limitation was required.

Taking off Salah was one thing but Klopp's biggest mistake was taking Can out of midfield and changing to a back three vs City.

That is why the flood gates opened.

3.) 11 Sep 2017
11 Sep 2017 17:50:17
And inspite of this we have conceded a total of 10 goals already. I think we will surely hit half century this season.

{Ed025's Note - you are not great at the back harry but i would wager that you dont let in 5 in any other game this season mate, that was a one off and circumstances dictated the level of defeat..

4.) 11 Sep 2017
11 Sep 2017 18:08:38
Weller, you are aware that teams often rotate their players esp. in defence, right? So why you are surprised that we made changes to the line up in defence after the int'l break, I have no idea. However, I do agree with you that playing with a man short does not and should not stop you from executing basic defensive work, which was not done for City's first 3 goals. There is where my concern mostly lies. The rest? We learn the lessons and move on.

5.) 11 Sep 2017
11 Sep 2017 18:09:32
We conceded 3 against watford and I am sure there would atlest 3 more games going forward where we would concede 3. That's 25 already which is what Spurs conceded all last season!

6.) 11 Sep 2017
11 Sep 2017 18:13:54
Coutinho, and City had no players on international duty?

7.) 11 Sep 2017
11 Sep 2017 18:51:50
We have been mentally weak for 3 or 4 seasons. I have lost count of the number of times we have been pegged back. I honestly don't trust the players we have in the defence and Mignolet/ Karius. Unless we're 3 goals up with 5 minutes to go, I don't rest easy. It's ridiculous, there's a nervousness right round the team and Henderson as captain should be taking a game (when we're winning) by the scruff of the neck, by slowing the game down, taking yellow cards for time wasting if required and doing what the top European teams do, when fouled - sit on the ground for 20 to 30 seconds and waste time.

{Ed025's Note - im not sure that thats a winning formula kev, and you certainly wont make many friends mate..

8.) 11 Sep 2017
11 Sep 2017 18:54:01
Bingo, we have only played a few games and not one of the back four who played on Saturday has played every game. so rotation on what basis ? . as they are tired ? - we are playing Man City, get out there and give it everything.

Not sure other teams have used so many defenders at this stage of the season and with using so many none of them have a chance to form any sort of understanding. Pick a back 4 a GK and work with them to get better - keep changing players, especially in defence will never work.

9.) 11 Sep 2017
11 Sep 2017 19:10:59
Mcgoveb ofcourse they did, hence why they wern't so great themselves up until the red card. A brilliant through ball from a world class KDB was the difference up until the red.

When Mane got sent off that would have given a boost to their players would it not? While ours just felt sorry for themselves!

10.) 11 Sep 2017
11 Sep 2017 20:08:48
kev totally disagree mate, hate seeing time wasting stuff like that and thank god we don't do it and when we do i hate it.

11.) 11 Sep 2017
11 Sep 2017 21:25:43
Weller, you are aware that there was an inter'l break and Klopp like most managers, had to pick a team based on the fitness levels of the players after they arrived from their various countries, right? This is what I mean by rotation. Keep up, bro.

{Ed025's Note - thats an excuse not a reason bingo, its four games in and these are highly tuned super fit athletes supposedly mate..

12.) 11 Sep 2017
11 Sep 2017 21:47:25
I understand why it would be hated as we're not known for it but if it's what wins us a vital game and saves me from a heart attack, I'd definitely not be fully against it. I appreciate why people would be against it though obviously.

{Ed025's Note - i would like to believe liverpool are above underhanded things that that kev..

13.) 12 Sep 2017
12 Sep 2017 00:18:44
No mate, we're desperate now 😆
That's what nearly 30 years of not winning a title does to ya.

{Ed025's Note - but would you want to win it dishonestly kev?, actually i hope you dont answer that mate..