10 Sep 2017 07:41:37
It would have ended no different for any other team 10 vs 11 at the Etihad yesterday.

City's defence was all over the show in the first half, it was only a matter of time before we had leveled the game but the Mane red card was the end for us.

For me there were a few question marks about Klopp's decision making though.

If anything, I would replaced Salah with Gomez to play at the back, instead he shifted Can out of midfield and brought on Ox. Did not help the situation.

Again, being one man down at the Etihad with the attacking quality of City would have seen any other team being torn apart.

What is important now is for the players and Klopp to reflect on this defeat and come back stronger.

One defeat is not going to end our season.

1.) 10 Sep 2017
10 Sep 2017 07:50:31
Both UTD and Chelsea would have kept that scoreline 1-0 end of the match. You are struggling so hard to put everything on Mane's red card. Aren't you? City are terrible at the back, infact worse than us and they played with one CM all afternoon.

I am sorry but I ll give you a simple tip of the game. Playing high line with Klavan, Lovren and Matip against any pace will result in only one outcome! Keep this in your book!

{Ed001's Note - I am not putting anything on Mane's red card, merely saying you are talking about ifs but seem to be unable to understand that simple fact that the red card changed things. You are wrong. Both United and Chelsea MIGHT have kept that scoreline to 1-0, again it is an if, but you are failing to understand that and talking in definites where none exist but refusing to accept a definite. You are refusing to accept simple logic and using guesswork and presenting it as a fact.

You should be sorry for wasting my time with this refusal to accept you are wrong, when you clearly are, as well as with that quite frankly pointless paragraph which bears no relation to the game. We did not play a particularly high line, so how is that relevant?}

2.) 10 Sep 2017
10 Sep 2017 07:59:09
I disagree that it would of ended if it was another team - other teams would of went defensive and tried to hit them on the counter. That may of been difficult, and with our woeful defence sitting back never really feels like the best option, but other teams could and would be able to do that. We rolled over and let them dominate us once they had the man advantage, that is unacceptable in my book and not something to expect or shrug our shoulders and say 'what can you do? ' - we can and should of been better than that, not putting in effort is lazy and unforgivable and we should not be making excuses for the players. If they bust a gut, try real hard and lose then it isn't great but you can at least say they left everything out on the pitch - could we say that about anyone yesterday? The answer is 'no' and that is simply not good enough.

3.) 10 Sep 2017
10 Sep 2017 08:00:04
Sorry for wasting your time Ed01.

{Ed001's Note - ah Harry, even when you are on one of your relentless posting sessions after a terrible defeat you can still raise a laugh mate. Thank you for that!}

4.) 10 Sep 2017
10 Sep 2017 08:04:08
Harry, Chelsea and Utd failed to keep clean sheets yesterday so I really do not know what you are smoking.

To suggest Chelsea and UTD would have kept clean sheets with a rampant City attack 11 vs 10 is laughable.

5.) 10 Sep 2017
10 Sep 2017 08:44:08
Max get your head out of the sand. We were terrible yesterday and City exposed how bad we are defensively. Our midfield were also dominated by a De Bruyne and City masterclass. Sendings off happen in football all the time but teams with 10 men can still go on and get something out of a game. Did we even muster a shot on goal after Mane went off. Yes it's only 1 game but so was the Arsenal game but it didn't stop expectations going through the roof. We have another game on Wednesday so it is a chance for Klopp and the players to put things right. But let's not be bitter and hide behind a red card.

6.) 10 Sep 2017
10 Sep 2017 08:49:56
The clubs inexcusable failure to strengthen the defence was punished yesterday even before the sending off. klavan wouldn't get in any other premier side and returning to moreno is just bonkers even if he is popular.

7.) 10 Sep 2017
10 Sep 2017 09:08:46
1-0
5-0
Both are losses.
Zero points.

8.) 10 Sep 2017
10 Sep 2017 10:57:39
Max, united lost 1-0 away at city a couple of seasons ago when Smalling was sent off at a similar time to Mane. Yet the match finished 1-0 to city. To say any team would have lost 5-0 is laughable, your just deflecting from the fact that most of your players gave up. How are you happy to accept that? I watched it and saw no fight from anyone. Often a red card galvanises a team. Your manager isn't tactically good enough to ensure you don't get hammered in this instance and you want to blame the red card as the sole reason for the heavy defeat. It's embarrassing.

9.) 10 Sep 2017
10 Sep 2017 10:58:47
Ron is an ideal supporter who accepts truth and moves on while always emphasis on improvement. I am sorry Max you are delude. Ed01 can have his opinion. That's his perception of viewing things. Just like a football match is covered by 10 cameras. I ll gladly stick with mine.