17 Apr 2016 19:29:34
Reds and Eds, if you have to a choice to begin next season with Lucas or Allen as a impact sub which one would u choose. I love Lucas as a player but i feel he doesn't have the legs to keep up with pacey players. He is very good in reading the game, where as Allen is good in breaking up the play and move the ball up the field. I know they play at different position, Lucas is more of a DM or makeshift CB and Allen more of a B2B. But we already have Hendo and Can as Our 2 B2B and we don't play a DM most of the time. My choice will be Allen as he bring something different to the team, specially if you want to jam up the midfield. Will miss Lucas as he's a great person but for the better of the team i will have someone who is a bit defence minded and can keep up with fast players, hope Gurjic is that player.

{Ed001's Note - Allen is terrible at breaking up the play as he tends to drift out of position chasing forward and doesn't have the legs to get back. There is no question Lucas is a better player and can play in defence, he would get my vote 20 times out of 10.}


1.) 17 Apr 2016
17 Apr 2016 19:56:51
Lucas for sure. Allen is in good form, but Lucas has the experience, he can play as a makeshift CB and his positioning is much better. He doesn't have the legs, but as others have shown, you don't need to be fast if you have a good read on the game.

I do think it is sadly time for Allen to leave though. We have too many centre mids with the emergence of talent such as Steweart, Chirivella etc. so it's time for the youth to stake a claim and Allen to go somewhere where he can be starting every week.


2.) 17 Apr 2016
17 Apr 2016 21:03:07
From what I saw, Allen broke the play up well today.


3.) 17 Apr 2016
17 Apr 2016 21:09:08
i thought allen did really well breaking up play today. he reads the game really well. but that was due to not getting forward as much like you said, but atleast he's more than capable getting forward. he's still young. It would be foolish to get rid unless there is absolutely no room for him.

I would actually try both in midfield for europa now that hendo and can are injured. both are great at breaking up play. stewart doesn't have the experience yet and will buckle under the pressure and milner is not a good choice ethier.

I think lucas will be the one that paves way with the new signings coming in. I think allen will be assessed for another season.


4.) 17 Apr 2016
17 Apr 2016 21:19:47
with allens form of late if he keeps to that level I think it will be impossible to let him go really. ( my god am I really sticking up for joe allen) he seems to be now the midfielder we hoped he was when we bought him. don't think you could better him for the money at the moment both him an lucas professional enough to sit on bench until needed without kicking up a fuss. keep em both.


5.) 17 Apr 2016
17 Apr 2016 21:51:56
Depends on the opponents and the players starting for me. If the team we set out is already playing with very offensive based midfield i'd have Lucas on the bench. If the centre mids starting are defensive and/ or slow to close down, press and moves the ball without intensity then i'd have Allen on the bench.

its not a case of black and white we need the whole squad. Although improving on what we have in the starting 11 is the most important thing to focus on now, not getting ride of valued squad members.


6.) 17 Apr 2016
17 Apr 2016 20:02:59
Allen doesn't break up play, He keeps the ball is a master if short passing. We need to bring in one top quality CDM as we don't have one with us. ( Can and Henderson ain't )


7.) 18 Apr 2016
17 Apr 2016 23:58:19
I don't think either are good enough in all honesty. If you could get a place solely because of commitment then Lucas would have his squad place all day long but against better or quicker opposition he struggles to cope and disappears. Allen although has had 3-4 good games recently just isn't enough to make me forget the past 3+ yrs.


8.) 18 Apr 2016
18 Apr 2016 02:53:35
For me Lucas would slot in as one of 4 center backs. I would keep Allen ad well. He is very useful. And yes my cbs for next season would be Matip sakho lovren and lucas.