05 May 2017 18:50:59
I have a Theory about piracy regarding sly sports and others in the UK and would love to see what you guys and EDS think about this. long shot but maybe a possibility.

Right so we all know the sports packages in the UK are just crazy and you don't get all the games, the prices go up every time they (sly or bt) sign a new contract for the games.

Now where my theory comes in is that look at the amount of people that use Kodi or get the match on illegal streams, they are not contributing to thre crazy payout to buy the games.

If we all started paying it could go either way, they could drop the price as of course they'll make much more money and benefit all win-win. just like the cinema its bloody dear to go see a movie (cause of piracy? maybe. i think so) if we all went to the cinema instead of going on Kodi or online it could drop the prices.

but back to the footy. If for talk sake (on the up side) everyone paid and didn't go on kodi etc the prices could drop and happy days OR! iit puts even more money to the English teams and prices continue to rise.

Not sure if im making sense but yeah! what's your thoughts!?

Cheers for reading have a good weekend, don't drink to much ;) and let's hope for another HUGE 3 POINTS!

{Ed001's Note - it doesn't work like that. They say it does, but that is false. They price it to make the best possible profit, like everything. I remember when CDs were introduced and they were cheaper to make than vinyl or tapes, yet they charged many times more for them. It was the same with DVDs, they ripped people off for years by charging more than for the same thing on video even though it cost them less to make. Perhaps if they stopped ripping people off, people would be less inclined to turn to piracy. I know most people I speak to would pay a fair price rather than use Kodi.}

1.) 05 May 2017
05 May 2017 19:21:16
Thanks for the Reply Ed01! bit of a change in subject for you haha!

But i agree there is both sides sadly and due to the greed what you said is most likely the way but hey! we can dream right!

I Pay for both the packages in the uk cause im a mug haha but i also use kodi for the games that are not included in the package! which is a bloody joke. this 3pm kick off nonsense needs to go as other things but footy seems to be moving forward so we may see it in the UK. like hell the Video Ref is coming which i think will be amazing for the game if used correctly :) if its tested in the world cup then hell that is the biggest stage there is. the game should be further forward technology wise than it is due to the money. Rugby is doing a fine job in that aspect with a lot lot less money.

{Ed001's Note - the 3pm thing is to protect lower league clubs who have a large number of fans who go to watch their local teams when they can't watch their own team. I would hate that rule to go, as a large number of clubs would fold if it did.

The video ref is a terrible idea, in my opinion. It doesn't work in rugby, it stops the game for far too long and makes it more like those awful American sports, which are more stop than go. Having seen the video ref in action in the A-League this season, it could be a complete disaster. One decision they got wrong, despite making the wrong decision initially, then restarting the game, players protests made the ref stop it and go to the video ref, who then agreed with his initial decision, which was wrong anyway! All of it took over 2 minutes to sort out and yet they came up with the wrong decision. May as well get it wrong quickly, just keep the game moving. I would rather see the rules speed up things, rather than slow it down. If players go down, unless it is a serious injury, take them straight off the pitch for any treatment while play goes on. Things like that would improve the game, not a video ref.}

2.) 05 May 2017
05 May 2017 19:25:06
Prices rise as demand rises. Sly wouldn't see 3 million new customers and think 'oh we can reduce the amount our existing customers pay'. They would see 3 million new customers and think 'more demand means our product is worth more money' and raise their prices exponentially.

That is the way big businesses work. They are profit first, customers second. Just be glad you aren't an employee as they usually come in third!

3.) 05 May 2017
05 May 2017 19:38:47
MK that's true but when sky got the latest contract they (well apparently) had to make cutbacks and also rised the price of non sport customer prices cause well they apparently had to make sacrifices and cutbacks which also affected the non sports customers. Sky would die without the sports and i personally think they are struggling i was paying about £120 for everything including bt sports. i cancelled and 1 year later (now) i have it all minus the movies and bt sport for 15quid a month. 12 month contract at that price oh and i got 3 months free (this month is my last free one as i apparently had money on my account lol)

4.) 05 May 2017
05 May 2017 19:42:24
Speaking of going the cinema being expensive have you seen the price of popcorn? Haha
You pay about £20 a ticket as well, walk in and your usually the only one in there, that's one industry being killed off by greed.
Back onto football, I would love to see a Supporters telly package, where you get ALL the games of your team of choice live then they show a selection of the other games later on or the next day plus highlight shows of the other games. I would happily pay for that, I would never pay for the likes of Sly or BT to watch 1 or 2 games a month.

5.) 05 May 2017
05 May 2017 19:46:18
Ed01 I agree in a way as im Northern Irish and the football teams here have been struggling well. it started with the Troubles then now they are struggling due to the money but hell our wee teams use to do okay in the old CL :) now no one has ever heard of Glentoran, Linfield etc outside of the UK (if that) . so i do agree on that.

The video ref, more testing needs to be done its early days. if they can do it right then awesome if its like you said then don't bother but the money that fifa are making should be helping the sport become better and be open to new ideas. one thing for sure we need to get rid of diving it is getting unreal now (i was having this discussion with a united fan as lucas dived in the box the other day which was proper awkward)

{Ed001's Note - I would rather the refs just watched the game back afterwards with the ability to make retroactive decisions to award cards and/or bans. The less messing with the game itself the better.}

6.) 05 May 2017
05 May 2017 20:09:52
1985! that's true haha you now have to hide you own sweets and what not down the baggy trousers! but a supporters package would be nice, hell charge a season ticket price for it long as i can see every game im happy (i go to quite a lot of games too, minimum of 8 a season) but the option would be good and i agree Ed! how come players don't get punished from diving etc after the game as its talked about on the post match talks! players should get punished for it as it is cheating.

{Ed001's Note - I personally think they don't want to admit it is a problem here and most of the rest of the world see a dive as clever play, sadly.}

7.) 05 May 2017
05 May 2017 20:14:13
Eds! just a thought and a bit of an odd one BUT have you ever thought of starting like a video chat room for supports to go in and talk and use (eds) get involved too? a quick google and there is a place called tinychat which you can have your own password locked rooms? or add it to this side?

Just a thought! be interesting!

{Ed001's Note - Benny Baller did suggest it a while ago. Not really something I can see the use in most of the time to be honest.}

8.) 05 May 2017
05 May 2017 20:26:47
Wait LOL i know diving is huge with foreign players but they actually see it as "clever play"? now that is messed up! Out of everything that is the main thing that needs taken out of the game.

Ohh okay so would i be fine for one of us to make a Liverpool Rumours room and post the details here? will it be used? who bloody knows but it would be there for what ever :)

9.) 05 May 2017
05 May 2017 21:32:11
All the sport you could want for £30 a month, what is people problem with sky?

They do loads for community aswell.

10.) 05 May 2017
05 May 2017 22:21:13
it should be like tennis where the manager gets to challenge a refs decision once per game. I think this could rid goals that wrongly get called offside as well as dissallow goals that are offside. would help stop bogus penaltys and award proper penalties. you will also get managers behaving themselves as they won't be able to moan at a refs decision especially if they can challenge their decision with video replay.

11.) 05 May 2017
05 May 2017 22:29:57
1212 Seriously? All the sport you want? going by just football you need Sky and BT to get the most out of it and you still don't get enough.

The problem people have with sky is the fast they are over priced, look at BT, Talk Talk, Virgin etc etc there full package that is the same as skys is much cheaper. also Murdoch owns sky.

How don't you have a Ploblem? lol.

12.) 06 May 2017
05 May 2017 23:48:32
I would rather get rid of penalties for fouls inside the area than use a video ref. I might get slated for saying that but think of the positives. Players would stop diving to try and win a pen, refs would be freed from the pressure of making immediate and direct game changing decisions, controversy surrounding those decisions would largely dissipate. Keep reds for last defender fouls and direct free kicks in the area. Just a thought. Vid refs would be useful for incorrect offsides that result in a goal for or againts.
On KODI, admittedly I use it for games not on the packages. I don't live in Liverpool and I want to see my team play! I'd gladly pay top price for high quality access to EVERY Liverpool game, but that's not happening so KODI it is. I want to watch and support my team and I can't afford to trek to Anfield every fortnight. I agree with the eds on the need to keep 3pm games off tv for the smaller clubs, but I don't feel that should hinder my access to watch the team I live, breath and love to my core.

13.) 06 May 2017
06 May 2017 06:36:47
I'm not based in England but I find it ridiculous you can pay a fortune for sky and still not get every game. SingTel in Singapore isn't cheap but at least I can watch every single match in the entire PL

I also recommend LFC TV - delayed but excellent coverage and good for catching up or when you just want highlights. and at least the money goes to the club.

14.) 06 May 2017
06 May 2017 08:40:32
What are these tapes that you refer to Ed?

{Ed001's Note - something I saw on Guardians of the Galaxy....}

15.) 06 May 2017
06 May 2017 11:43:49
I've always liked the idea that you should be able to award penalties even if it was outside the box. It would stop the refs having to decide whether contact was in or out, whether it continues etc. If it's a foul, and there was a chance to score, it's a penalty.