Liverpool Rumours Archive October 28 2010

 

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28 Oct 2010 23:22:08
Ryan babel is staying at LFC.
It has been recognised that Babel cannot play at a high level for LFC due to the style of football being played at the club.
NESV have idenified the LFC midfield as the area in much need of improvement.
Quaresma and Young will join as these players will provide attacking flare and their prices are within LFC range, especially Quaresma who's form has dipped in recent years.
Banega is also a possibility who will be used to replace Mascherano.
Young will provide competition for Babel. Babel will become second choice.
Llorente will be also a hopefull signing for LFC. Llorente is spainish and LFC want to maintain a strong spainish influence since the departure of Arbeloa and Alonso.

Ins: Quaresma- 14m
Young- 18m
Llorente- 21m
Banega- 12m

Total-65m


Team line up:

- - - - - - - - Reina- - - - - - - - -
- Johnson- Skertel- Agger- Konchesky-
- Quaresma- Gerrard- Banega- Young-
- - - - - Torres- - - - Llorente- - - -

Bench: Jones, Carragher, Kerigakos, Aurelio, Poulsen, Meireles, Lucas, Babel, Cole, Kuyt, Ngog.

A strong team with dept with a good impact bench.

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28 Oct 2010 23:22:04
Ed was wondering on your thoughts regarding a DM to replace Monster Masch. Is Meireles that person? IMO Sami Khedira is worth a shout, hard tackling midfielder with a great range of passing. IMO more a cross between a Masch/ Alonso. Would be inexpensive 10 -15 mill.

red deano {ed's note - Meireles is not a defensive midfielder and Khedira is a first choice player for Real Madrid so he is out. Banega is the one I would go for.}

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28 Oct 2010 23:21:21
We all know nesv's tranfer plan. Buy young exciting fresh talent. Let's be honest that bring through young talent and turning them into world stars is not roys strength. I think Rijkaard will be next manger because he has a proven track record of bring through young players. Look at Barcelona. Lot of young players that were there when Rijkaard was there are now some of the best players in the world. I think we're going to be like arsenal in a few years time. I hope so.

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28 Oct 2010 23:20:19
28 Oct 2010 23:05:43
I agree regarding Ganso. A sweet left foot as good as Rivaldo. Plays like Socrates (for those that can remember) or a Zidane. Would be at least 20 mill for this one but think that Citah may have first dibs on him or his team mate Neymar for the deal over Robinho. IMO if we do go for him I can see Citah putting an overbid for him just to spite/ prevent EPL oposition getting him.

red deano YNWA

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I think that was only whilst Robinho was on loan at Santos.

-Poki

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28 Oct 2010 23:05:43
I agree regarding Ganso. A sweet left foot as good as Rivaldo. Plays like Socrates (for those that can remember) or a Zidane. Would be at least 20 mill for this one but think that Citah may have first dibs on him or his team mate Neymar for the deal over Robinho. IMO if we do go for him I can see Citah putting an overbid for him just to spite/ prevent EPL oposition getting him.

red deano YNWA

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28 Oct 2010 22:58:44
Do you think affelay would be a good buy/ sucess for us, ed? {ed's note - yes I think he would be, his price would be low enough that we should have no trouble getting our money back if things didn't work out.}

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28 Oct 2010 22:56:22
As NESV have said that they will listen to the supporters, can we all please stop linking the club with Ashley Young. Sure he's good in the odd game, but overall he's just another overpriced, average English player. For the 18million or so that he'd cost, there are much better wingers/ playmakers available. We've got quality homegrown coming through the ranks to make up Premier League and Uefa quota's, so that money should be put into a more cultured footballer rather than Ashley Young.

-IamtheCosmos

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28 Oct 2010 22:53:14
As im sure you know, NESV want players with good potential. I am not saying we will sign these players or our people behind transfers are even watching them, but these are players with bags of talent and potential that (given adequate resources) we should be looking at:

Strikers:
Romelu Lukaku (valued at 25 mil) he is 17 years old and 1m 91cm and Neymar (38 mil release clause) said to be the next Pele. I believe that IF we signed either of these players, they would be a good partner to Fernando Torres and a future star.

Wingers:
Marko Marin (not sure on value) has been labelled the 'german messi' and is 21 years old.
Georginio Wijnaldum (19 years old) plays for Feyenoord but has expressed a desire to join Liverpool and also his role model is Dirk Kuyt.

Attacking/ Center Midfield:

Ganso (20 years old) plays for Santos and has been likened to Kaka and one of the brightest prospects in Brazil (along with Neymar)
Eden Hazard (19 years old) Belgian player with 16 caps to his name already. Certainly a prospect for the future.

What do you think of these players Ed? I think they would all have a strong chance of walking into our side. Just to reiterate, i am not saying that we will sign these players or we are interested, however i believe that these are the kind of players we should be looking at if money was no problem. {ed's note - all of them would be great buys, but I doubt we could afford more than one or two of them at most.}

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28 Oct 2010 22:32:27
28 Oct 2010 19:46:02
" Editor, i like this site but i wish you had a separate page where you can post your own rumors and we comment on them. not the other way around. At the moment there are a couple of comments not related to football or real transfer rumors and we have to go through all of them. Whoever made this site, is it that difficult to organize the style. for instance, every time when some one make a replay for a rumor, we happen to read the original rumor again and again and again. programatically it isn't much work to put all replays under the original rumor. I can help with the styling of the page if you are interested

join the VIP area, theres an ed's corner there mate

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28 Oct 2010 22:30:57
I would prefer Carlton Cole to Vucinic, Vuicinic is nowhere near a premier league player. Carlton Cole is no were near good enuf family lfc so give ya effect a wobble believe if ya agree

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28 Oct 2010 22:30:36
Regarding James Fletcher: he is a freelance reporter, yes, but his main occupation now is pr - his company based in Wilmslow (onsidepr.com) and has worked for the mirror (& n.o.w. etc) on a permanent basis before. He IS a Liverpool fan (see his facebook - you may need to be a friend of his first?!) and has represented players before. He has recently been standing in as sports editor for the mirror (I've rang him in the office via his / a pa) covering for absence & I will bet any Money he will be writing for them soon again as he is very well liked by them there

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28 Oct 2010 22:29:06
No way will we get coentrao Cardozo mata Gomez etc
We will end up with no need for a new lb with konch Aurelio insua
Carlton cole will come in Jan Roy rates him and that is why we don't rate Roy
Also we will probably get Swp just because Roy has heard oh him

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28 Oct 2010 21:58:22
Out:jovanovic 4mil, maxi 4mil, poulsen 4mil. (all contribute nothing and at worst can be liabilities) in: mata 17mil, young 16mil, bent 16mil. would provide genuine width and attacking depth and quality we desperately need. all together would cost 'nesv' about 35mil investment and we would be contenders.

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28 Oct 2010 21:50:20
A breaking news story coming in from Serie A has confirmed that Roma defender Philippe Mexes has handed in a transfer request at the club and has confirmed that he may see out the remainder of his contract and leave on a bosman transfer in the Summer.

Sky Italia has confirmed the story after speaking to the agent of the defender, and his agent has confirmed that the club are looking for around 8m Euros (£7m) for the centre-back. The news will prompt AC Milan into action following their failure to tempt the player away from Roma in the Summer. Chelsea are also said to be seriously interested in the defender and it is believed that Chelsea are the favourites to attain the services of the player.

Liverpool boss Roy Hodgson is interested, and with the possibility of signing the player on a free transfer meaning Liverpool could meet his wage demands, added to a regular first team place, would certainly be an attractive proposition for the France International defender.

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28 Oct 2010 21:48:07
Im quite surprised no one has mentioned Toni Kroos, very promising young german player at Beyern Munich. He was excellent in the under 17 tournament back in 07, unlikely Beyern will sell him but worth a look while he's on loan at Leverkusen.

FemaleRed4Life

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28 Oct 2010 21:44:34
WE GOT OUR OWN CONOR WICKHAM IN DAVID NGOO

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28 Oct 2010 21:43:11
In
Mirko Vucinic
Adam Szalai
david bentley or ashley young
Royston Drenthe
Mahamadou Diarra
Keisuke Honda

out
Maxi Rodrguez
Ryan Babel
Lucas Leiva
Dirk Kuyt

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28 Oct 2010 21:31:07
I see a few have suggested Ashley Young of Villa might be useful for us but the Villa player I would like to see at Liverpool is Marc Albrighton.Has skill, pace and tremendous determination.With the right manager he could be a very bright star in the near future.

CR

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28 Oct 2010 21:29:44
OK so we are all waiting for some news about changes within the club, and nothing is happening, that's why we have seen some bickering on the site, is it not?

FIRST, a New Board will be appointed

SECOND, it's them who will restructure the club, they will make some rules to which the club will adhere to in the search for progression (not immediate success) they will? appoint a manager and take into account on who they may bring with them, backroom staff etc.

THIRDLY, They will all get together to decide on who we will sign, who we will keep and who will go.

I think the same as some others, we will be looking to spread our name across the parts of the World we have yet to break into, this will increase our revenue (good business) and all will be well! !

Success won't come quickly, I am guessing in 5 years we will be champions and have the strongest squad in the EPL and also back with the big boys of Europe

Have faith YNWA

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28 Oct 2010 21:29:15
I think Charlie Adam would be a good squad signing for Liverpool on a free transfer. He's better than lucas and poulson, and is a good corner and free kick taker, and could play in similar role to Alonso. Feeding Gerrard and Torres the killer passes we have serverly lacked so far this season.

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28 Oct 2010 21:11:52
Just been reading about anfield/ new stadium. on monday 25th oct 10 , i was on a stadium tour and we were informed that morning that the club had been given the all clear for a new ground and that anfield was not going to be redeveloped. . was also told that work would begin in 5/ 6 weeks time . . have you heard anything ed? {ed's note - I haven't heard that at all, there has been no word, official or otherwise, about it that I have seen.}

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28 Oct 2010 21:02:25
Looks like Hodgson is after Mirko Vucinic do you rate him?? ? {ed's note - I don't personally.}

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28 Oct 2010 20:59:16
These are the players we need. . .Gomes, Defour, Mata and Drenthe in january.

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28 Oct 2010 20:57:17
Ed, it seems to me that everyone is believing what is printed by the press and radio stations like talk s* *e. They are, in my opinion, guessing what NESV will do in Jan so they can all say "you heard it here first". Nobody saw them coming in to take us over because they do things nice and quitely. All this talk about Pepe and Torres going is just headline grabbing rubbish. I say let's give them a chance to show us what they can do. Why would they come out and say we are going to spend big in Jan. Look what happens when City go after a player - the price suddenly goes up.

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28 Oct 2010 20:54:27
Hi Ed, why oh why do people keep saying bring in a world class winger bring in a word class forward why not give pacheco a decent run in the team and why not give amoo a go for me these two talants are just wasteing away in the reserves. please put this up i want to know yours and other fellow readers thoughts {ed's note - we still need to get a winger for the left side in that case though mate.}

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28 Oct 2010 20:52:25
I believe that when NESV is quiet, it means that they are working on something. Remember the takeover?

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28 Oct 2010 20:34:33
Ed, do u have any idea how the new board might look like. . is Ian Ayre staying?. . r we gonna get a fans representative in there? ?. . How many members. .herad anything in this regard Ed?

GTH {ed's note - Ian Ayre has been assured his job is safe, I don't have a clue who else will be on the board though.}

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28 Oct 2010 20:34:27
The beard malarky. I think possibly amateur boxing for several reasons but he main one being the headguard no fitting properly? Least that's what I think - can't think of anything else that there would be a reason to ban beards - except perhaps women's weightlifting.

RED LENIN {ed's note - we have already had the answer mate, it was horse racing, jockeys aren't allowed a beard. I haven't a clue why though!}

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28 Oct 2010 20:29:08
I reckon the sport in which beards are not allowed is WRESTLING! I cannot think of a single wrestler with a beard also it would be pretty painful to be grabbed by the short and curlies on the chin and neck!

Sack Hodgson - one Swallow doesn't make a summer! The man is bloody useless and tactically inept. {ed's note - didn't Giant Haystacks have a beard?}

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28 Oct 2010 20:19:33
Hi, everyone ed i love your site and i just hate it when people come on and say there sources and contacts but any way i was just wondering what the young english striker is called who plays for either a championship or league 1 premier league teams like manchester utd where linked with him in the summer and also what happened to him havent hurd anything about him since the summer
Thanks.
Robert
{Editor's note - Conor Wickham I think you are talking about. Not sure I know he is being closely monitored by Spurs.}

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28 Oct 2010 20:13:51
Is it ED? (the person who knows the stuff lol). Just been reading through the rumour pages and I heard someone mention that you had a source that was telling you stuff about Roy Hodgson's future? What do you know mate or what has your source told you? Cheers {ed's note - all I was told is that Roy was to be removed as soon as a new manager was chosen. I did get a bit excited thinking it meant a matter of days, but, after calming down, I realised that a board has to be sorted so that they can choose the new guy.}

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28 Oct 2010 20:11:30
I just want to throw one name into the mix:
Daniel Miguel Alves Gomes
a.k.a Danny the zenit st petersburg midfielder who is increadibly talented and always looks like a great player. January is close-season for Russia, so he would be availible at a relativley cheap price for him (about 10m)

Anyway my team after January:

GK: Reina
RB: Johnson
CB: Mexes (5m)
CB: Agger
LB: Taiwo (4m)
RM: Honda (9m)
CM: Gerrard
CM: Meireles
LM: Cole
CAM: Danny (10m)
FW: Torres

thoughts ed? {ed's note - a few people have mentioned Danny now, it is certainly worth a look at the best players in the Russian league, including him.}

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28 Oct 2010 20:10:02
Ed do you think the only reason NESV hav'nt replace roy is because they are still sorting a board and other jobs out. once everythings sorted above him i feel roy will be gone.

always a red {ed's note - that is exactly what I believe mate.}

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28 Oct 2010 20:08:30
To the guy who said this:

Just a quick thought about these pathetic rumors regarding Pepe- I belive his love for Liverpool would stop him ever playing for the scum also any transfer of any player between them and Liverpool should be a none started one reason- Heinze! !
Also he wouldn't go to Madrid because of his barcelona connections and he can't replace casillas in the national squad, so can't see him doing it at club level,
Why would Barcelona want to buy him when they have valdes and would they want to spend 25m on a keeper?
The only place I could see him going would be inter but again they have cesar and would they want to spend that much? I believe Pepe will be with us for a fair few years yet just as long as we improve which we will because we are Liverpool

Sound like logic is being applied to the ridiculous rumours being bandied around by bored journalists has "Jones the truth" resurfaced to furnish us with his wisdom? ?

Dickie Di Doh

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28 Oct 2010 20:06:53
No Ed, Coentrao plays as a Left Back for Benfica too.Nicolas Gaitan, a young Argy plays LM for Benfica now. . he was LM initially, but couldnt get a game cause Angel Di Maria was there, jesus then moved him to Lb and it paid off. .


GTH {ed's note - ah ok, I was wondering if we were after him for the left wing, probably not then in that case, but then Konch hasn't been a big success.}

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28 Oct 2010 20:05:38
In response to

Being an American baseball fan, I've been following the turnaround that John Henry and NESV have done with the Boston Red Sox closely. Basically, Henry used the same principles he used in his quant hedge fund, using advanced statistics (Sabermetrics) to find players that are undervalued based on traditional scouting (although, this method was really pioneered by Billy Beane with Oakland, read the book "Moneyball" if you are interested.)

Now as far as I'm aware, these advanced statistical methods don't yet exist in soccer, so they would need to be developed. .which I'm guessing would take longer than the Jan transfer window. But what I think this will mean right away is that Liverpool will focus on transfers to improve fundmentals (in baseball, pitching and defense; in soccer, I suppose that would translate to speed, passing, and defense).

If they do follow through with that philosophy as I suspect, here's my opinion on some of the players that LFC have been linked with (in no order):

1. Coentrao - Seems like he would be a perfect fit, young and good on both the defensive and offensive fronts. Let's hope the WC performance doesn't have Benfica asking for a king's ransom, because NESV will not overpay.
2. Hazard - another young talent, possible future franchise player. At the right price, they will pounce I think.
3. Benzema - 50/ 50. He does have immense talent and RM would likely let him leave for a discount price, but concerns over work ethic might scare them away.
4. Forlan - I don't think so here. The age is not a huge concern, but the boost from the WC performance will likely remove the value prop from him.
5. Lisandro - I would consider him under the radar compared to Forlan, and really not mentioned with the other strong Argentine strikers. Could be a great value pick that pays off big right away.
6. Ashley Young - I think Young is a good player, but Villa will ask too much.
7. Mata - Same as Ashley Young, although the financial situation in Valencia might give LFC some leverage on the fee. I wouldn't hold out hope.
8. Alexis Sanchez - Good fit for the team, but I have to think another powerhouse team will swoop in willing to overspend.
9. Afellay - I think he could be had a good price, and would fill the winger gap pretty well.
10. Honda - I only know what I saw of him and the WC, and it would bring some more Asian fans to LFC. .but I think that NESV's top priority right now is a quality product on the field, and I don't think Honda necessarily meets the needs.
11. Llorente - again, would be a good fit on the field, just likely overpriced.
12. Mexes - Still relatively young and talented, good veteran presence in the clubhouse, out of favor in his current club? 3/ 3, I think he's a top target.

I could see getting Lisandro, Coentrao, Mexes, and Afellay in Jan. If we are lucky with some good sales, either Hazard or Sanchez is a possibility. Doesn't make LFC a championship team, but significantly improves, IMO.

What a load of crap you talk pal, you start off with im an american blah blah i don't know anything about SOCCER, but then you write
If we are lucky with some good sales,
WE meaning im realy a liverpool fan and have no idea about baseball but thought id write somthing that makes me sound kinda clever.
Read my book " i talk s* t and im a proper nob" al send you a copy youd love it

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28 Oct 2010 19:58:39
Liverpool have reportidly stepped up their chase to sign PSV star Ibrahim Afellay as it has emerged in Holland that Kenny Dalglish will be a guest for PSV's game against FC Twente on Saturday. Afellay has recently announced that he will leave PSV when his contract expires in June 2011, meaning PSV will look to sell in January.

Afellay has attracted interest from some of Europe's big guns, including Barcelona, Man Utd and Inter Milan. However Roy Hodgson is intent on getting his man and will send Dalglish over to Holland to meet with PSV officials and the players' representatives. PSV expect a formal bid of around £8m from Liverpool, which would be hard to resist considering there is a chance they could lose him on a free transfer in the Summer.

Afellay has recently expressed his desire to move to the Premier League, and openly told Sky Sports that he wants to move to either Liverpool or Man Utd. Thus far, Man Utd have failed to make a move paving the way for Liverpool to sign the player.

Liverpool have to move swiftly as up to eight clubs are chasing the Dutchman's signature. Roy Hodgson has instructed Dalglish to go no higher than £8m for the playmaker and if an £8m bid fails, Liverpool will wait until the January window and move fast to enter contract talks with the player over a bosman move.

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28 Oct 2010 19:54:25
I myself would like a quailty number 7 and take the premier by storm then retire it for good , kenny is king and always will be the man has lfc in his blood
get a quailty number 7 belive retire the number 7 unbelive

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28 Oct 2010 19:51:45
Ed, gr8 news , my contacts just told me we r going to bid for Fabio Coentrao. . superb player. . largely a Left Midfielder, he was converted into a Left Back by the current Benfica Manager Jorge Jesus and it paid off. . Not sure abt the price though. . .my contacts told me it would take somewhere in the region of 25 million pounds to get Benfica interested and also, Man City r interested. . .Would we go for him in Jan when we already have 2 LBs and another on loan. . ur thoughts ed?

GTH {ed's note - I always thought he was a left winger that was just fitted in to the Portugese team at left back?}

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28 Oct 2010 19:50:49
Hi again Ed another player id love to see signed is david alaba from bayern. although i can't see them letting him go as he is one for the future.

Also Shelvey needs more match time as im convinsed he is going to get to the level of gerrard and maybe more {ed's note - I have not seen Alaba play, what kind of player is he? Shelvey is class, he needs to play as much as possible.}


David Alaba is a central midfielder by trade but can play on the left side, defense or attack. He made his bayern champ league debut at 17, he has made his full austrian debut and if he progresses i reackon he will be as good as there is.
I saw a lot of shelvey at charlton last year and he looks so compossed and reads the game so well its unreal. i Believe he is the most promising younster in the country right now. We have saved ourself a future 20 mill with him signed {ed's note - I was amazed we got him and for so little. I thought we would have been looking at paying at least 8mill for such a quality young player.}

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28 Oct 2010 19:46:02
" Editor, i like this site but i wish you had a separate page where you can post your own rumors and we comment on them. not the other way around. At the moment there are a couple of comments not related to football or real transfer rumors and we have to go through all of them. Whoever made this site, is it that difficult to organize the style. for instance, every time when some one make a replay for a rumor, we happen to read the original rumor again and again and again. programatically it isn't much work to put all replays under the original rumor. I can help with the styling of the page if you are interested"
.miccmak

are you crazy mate? the best thing about this site is the time lined posts! !
seeing how the story develops trough the day, with people randomly passing there judgement. in my view that's the only way to achieve a true consensus !

so Eds don't go changin to try to please him , top job keep it up!

BRIXTONRED {ed's note - I wouldn't change it anyway, one of the things that makes us different is the way our page is set out.}

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28 Oct 2010 19:29:19
Being an American baseball fan, I've been following the turnaround that John Henry and NESV have done with the Boston Red Sox closely. Basically, Henry used the same principles he used in his quant hedge fund, using advanced statistics (Sabermetrics) to find players that are undervalued based on traditional scouting (although, this method was really pioneered by Billy Beane with Oakland, read the book "Moneyball" if you are interested.)

Now as far as I'm aware, these advanced statistical methods don't yet exist in soccer, so they would need to be developed. .which I'm guessing would take longer than the Jan transfer window. But what I think this will mean right away is that Liverpool will focus on transfers to improve fundmentals (in baseball, pitching and defense; in soccer, I suppose that would translate to speed, passing, and defense).

If they do follow through with that philosophy as I suspect, here's my opinion on some of the players that LFC have been linked with (in no order):

1. Coentrao - Seems like he would be a perfect fit, young and good on both the defensive and offensive fronts. Let's hope the WC performance doesn't have Benfica asking for a king's ransom, because NESV will not overpay.
2. Hazard - another young talent, possible future franchise player. At the right price, they will pounce I think.
3. Benzema - 50/ 50. He does have immense talent and RM would likely let him leave for a discount price, but concerns over work ethic might scare them away.
4. Forlan - I don't think so here. The age is not a huge concern, but the boost from the WC performance will likely remove the value prop from him.
5. Lisandro - I would consider him under the radar compared to Forlan, and really not mentioned with the other strong Argentine strikers. Could be a great value pick that pays off big right away.
6. Ashley Young - I think Young is a good player, but Villa will ask too much.
7. Mata - Same as Ashley Young, although the financial situation in Valencia might give LFC some leverage on the fee. I wouldn't hold out hope.
8. Alexis Sanchez - Good fit for the team, but I have to think another powerhouse team will swoop in willing to overspend.
9. Afellay - I think he could be had a good price, and would fill the winger gap pretty well.
10. Honda - I only know what I saw of him and the WC, and it would bring some more Asian fans to LFC. .but I think that NESV's top priority right now is a quality product on the field, and I don't think Honda necessarily meets the needs.
11. Llorente - again, would be a good fit on the field, just likely overpriced.
12. Mexes - Still relatively young and talented, good veteran presence in the clubhouse, out of favor in his current club? 3/ 3, I think he's a top target.

I could see getting Lisandro, Coentrao, Mexes, and Afellay in Jan. If we are lucky with some good sales, either Hazard or Sanchez is a possibility. Doesn't make LFC a championship team, but significantly improves, IMO.

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28 Oct 2010 19:25:31
Just a quick thought about these pathetic rumors regarding Pepe- I belive his love for Liverpool would stop him ever playing for the scum also any transfer of any player between them and Liverpool should be a none started one reason- Heinze! !
Also he wouldn't go to Madrid because of his barcelona connections and he can't replace casillas in the national squad, so can't see him doing it at club level,
Why would Barcelona want to buy him when they have valdes and would they want to spend 25m on a keeper??
The only place I could see him going would be inter but again they have cesar and would they want to spend that much? I believe Pepe will be with us for a fair few years yet just as long as we improve which we will because we are Liverpool

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28 Oct 2010 19:24:57
Hi again Ed another player id love to see signed is david alaba from bayern. although i can't see them letting him go as he is one for the future.

Also Shelvey needs more match time as im convinsed he is going to get to the level of gerrard and maybe more {ed's note - I have not seen Alaba play, what kind of player is he? Shelvey is class, he needs to play as much as possible.}

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28 Oct 2010 19:21:58
Ed, my contact's been telling me we r not acting aggressively in the transfer market behind the scenes and that we r just watching the players and not actively trying to buy them. . this has apparently led to some of our transfer targets being targeted by other clubs. .One example he gave me was that of Keisuke Honda. .Arsenal r now favs for the player as they r keeping in touch with the players agent behind the scene. . Do u know whether this is true? . . Also, someone earlier posted abt Mirko Vucinic. . he'll be a bad buy cause of the fact that hes a temparamental player. . hes gets into problems on and of the pitch. . ur thoughts ED?

GTH {ed's note - we have no one in place to negotiate deals at the moment, the club needs to sort out the board before it can start making deals for players.}

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28 Oct 2010 19:19:02
Hi ed, nesv have said they will only invest in young and talented players well here we go, we desperately need some pace on the wings so I would like to suggest roy affelley, mata, young, elija, turan, bale, johnson etc kingplfc {ed's note - after what Roy said about websites, I doubt very much he will be reading this one!}

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28 Oct 2010 19:15:37
Would like your input ed
why o why can a club like ours not find a player to fill the number 7 shirt, liverpool and no number 7 is not right {ed's note - personally I would prefer to see the number 7 retired in honour of Kenny Dalglish, it has become a burden to players trying to live up to his greatness.}

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28 Oct 2010 19:15:21
Why all the secrecy surrounding Agger? If Roy's not going to play him, or he doesn't want to play, say so. We get an update on Kuyt everyday, but our best centre back has mysteriously disappeared from the team and we just hear that he's "Ill" and "Some way from fit."
Check the EPL section of physioroom.com (who receive information from the clubs), his injury is the most vague on the list.
Meanwhile Roy is trying to convince everyone that we aren't missing him because Soto is playing so well, hoping nobody realises he can't defend.
Roy has done nothing right so far, the sooner he goes the sooner we can move forward.

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28 Oct 2010 19:13:57
28 Oct 2010 19:01:58
Hi Ed this is in regards to everyone who seems to be posting to sign Ashley Young! Why? He isn't a world class player and would cost a fortune. When he turned out for england he proved he wasn't world class standard.

I'd like to see someone like Henri Saviet running up and down the wing whipping in crosses. He can cross the ball at least {ed's note - I can't explain the love of Ashley Young either, I don't rate him in the slightest.}
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ME TOO. I JUST DON'T GET THIS INFATUATION WITH ASHLEY YOUNG OR THE CONTINUOUS POSTS SUGGESTING WE SHOULD BUY THE VERY AVERAGE SHAUN WRIGHT PHILLIPS.

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28 Oct 2010 19:05:08
Hi all,
Totally agree wit poster on how nesv work and how the media potray our"warchest".also people keep postin about forlan and other guys that are old wit no sell on value. We will only sign players young that will have value to sell on.I can see Honda , turan and that's it I think kuyt will be deployed more as a striker. If woy gets the money he will buy brunt, c cole, s Taylor. This is why I think kenny will have more say in transfers though. I find it hard that nesv will buy a load of players in jan. I also wish people would stop readin kraptalk, caughtoffside and listenin to talks* te never mind bringin the s*n and other Lyin tabloids to the site they try to sell papers and by doin it they will throw liverpool lies on it. I have stopped buyin newspapers now and only read the echo online as I'm from Ireland I can't buy it. I wish people would try do the same as I haven't tormented myself anymore with the tabloid lies.
Ps. Would love llorente on team with Torres

Match song could be : there's only 2 fernando Torres! !
Sorry for long post but I hate Lyin newspapers they have dragged our good name through the muck for too many years also I think the brandy nose b* tard brothers fergie and redknapp are gettin newspapers to write stories about us.
Fowler is god

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28 Oct 2010 19:01:58
Hi Ed this is in regards to everyone who seems to be posting to sign Ashley Young! Why? He isn't a world class player and would cost a fortune. When he turned out for england he proved he wasn't world class standard.

I'd like to see someone like Henri Saviet running up and down the wing whipping in crosses. He can cross the ball at least {ed's note - I can't explain the love of Ashley Young either, I don't rate him in the slightest.}

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28 Oct 2010 18:45:44
28 Oct 2010 13:20:17
David Maddock of the Daily Mirror has informed me that James Fletcher is a freelance reporter and has beem sacked by several newspapers! Everything he wrote this morning regarding `secret conract agreements etc` regarding Torres and Reina is a load of rubbish and will not probably write for the mirror again!
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28 Oct 2010 18:45:17
The only reason I said 20 m ed was these are the players I think would raise the money babbel 8m poulsen 3 m he's not good enough for juventus reserves he's not good enough for are first team el zahar 2m aqualani 10 m if poss in january an there's more dead wood easily we could get rid of there just a few to mention {ed's note - good point, I had completely forgotten about Aqualani!}

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28 Oct 2010 18:41:21
Ed, what happened with the 'RH being out before or shortly after the Blackburn game'. .?

I was getting my hopes up! {ed's note - I got a bit over-excited at the news he would be gone as soon as a replacement is sorted. Never stopped and looked at it rationally, if I had I would have realised there is no one in place to appoint a new man yet!}

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28 Oct 2010 18:39:28
Not a romour just a thought
we should get alonso back liverpool fc has not been the same without him, alonso going for whatever reason was a big mistake, i miss him shooting from the half way line so in january we should bring him home

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28 Oct 2010 18:37:55
28 Oct 2010 18:21:13
Ed is this true that we have no money to spend and if so why was mr Henry saying just look at the red sox we are 2nd biggest spenders in baseball I'm already starting to worry. they have not give us anything to be excited about or to be encouraged about I'm going to say it now these owners are not what we need we are in a mess and we will be in a sorry state if the rumours are true bout Torres an pepe we need cash and now before we cnt attract any 1 {ed's note - none of the rubbish in the papers is true. Don't even waste your time with them, they just make stuff up to sell papers.}
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Quite right ed. John Henry is still setting out his plans. Many of these stories have been regurgiated from previous months. Its Liverpool FC. It sells papers.
What all Liverpool fans need to realise is that is -

LIVERPOOL Versus Sky Sports, Sky News, Richeard Keyes, Andy Gray, Talksport, The S* , The Mirror, Daily Mail, Daily Express, most of the rest of Chelsea, Spurs and West Ham supporting Fleet Street, Ferguson, Friends of Fergie, Fat friend of Fergie Sam Allardyce and the Redknapp family.
ALL HATE LIVERPOOL!

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28 Oct 2010 18:26:31
I'd love to see lorente at Liverpool it's exactly what we need also Ashley young Gary Cahill and defour get rid of the rest of the dead wood dnt stop at the last lot who left an we could raise 20m what you think ed {ed's note - I am not sure we could raise that much in January, but it would be great if we could.}

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28 Oct 2010 18:21:13
Ed is this true that we have no money to spend and if so why was mr Henry saying just look at the red sox we are 2nd biggest spenders in baseball I'm already starting to worry. they have not give us anything to be excited about or to be encouraged about I'm going to say it now these owners are not what we need we are in a mess and we will be in a sorry state if the rumours are true bout Torres an pepe we need cash and now before we cnt attract any 1 {ed's note - none of the rubbish in the papers is true. Don't even waste your time with them, they just make stuff up to sell papers.}

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28 Oct 2010 18:15:24
Tony Evans of The Times has clarified reports saying NESV won't spend money, but at the same time won't splurge it either.
We lack pace & even though there are several areas we need improving I'd look at a forward & 2 wingers first. If we have more quality attacking, it means we'll keep more of the ball which in turn takes pressure off our defence.
My choice would be Elia, Sanchez & Llorente.
Gav the Red

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28 Oct 2010 18:12:42
Sorry for spelling of some players names, bloody spell check!

Eds, what do you think about my statement? {ed's note - I agree with you mate, NESV don't work the way the papers are trying to make out.}

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28 Oct 2010 18:09:51
Glen Johnson has had a transfer request turned down, and has been told to wait till the summer.

Reina is going nowhere, especially not to Man United, he said the only club he plans to play for other than Liverpool is Athletico Madrid.

Torres will only be allowed to leave for a club abroad and for £50mil plus, although he hasn't declared his unhappiness, and after talks with NESV he see's us as a club on the up. Liverpool will have substantial money available. When they said spend wisely, they meant it. Not wasting £100mil on players with no resale value (such as Forlan) Young players with huge potential in talent and future profits. Expect around £30mil plus player sales to be made available.

Daily Mirror is a load of ass!

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28 Oct 2010 18:09:46
Regarding transfers and money available, NESV have kept their cards close to their chest. The "warchest" the papers refer to is created BY the papers and press - they know nothing and are playing a guessing game.
NESV, IMO, from what they have said, will spend money on players that have been recommended, if they see they will be of value to Liverpool FC. This is not just monetry value but quality players too. They have not officially spoken about the sums of money that will be given for transfers. This is good news as they will pay for the right players.

Some of the name, Hazard, Affelay, Sanchez, Titan etc are excellent options and will be possible if the board and structure are in place. Hopefully manager too!

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28 Oct 2010 18:08:25
28 Oct 2010 16:04:53
Guys come on the ed's put in a lot of of work to make this site work for us so can we stop being pathetic and get back to rumours.

In rumours does anyone know how reliable that LFC transfer spec guy is on twiiter and facebook he's making alot of rumours wondered if theres truth behind some of them?

ed great work and you know about this guy? {ed's note - I don't know anything about him sorry, have you got a link so I can check him out?}

She's very reliable is Gemma and the gang, they got Meireles spot on before anyone even knew it was about to happen and all the way through the takeover business they were always well on the money, you should join the page ed with your info and theirs us reds should be pretty well informed {ed's note - if I had a link I would!}

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28 Oct 2010 18:04:46
This is theturdz speaking
although he didn't quite become a prolific scorer at manure i think we should go for diego forlan cos hes really improved now hes had a few years in spain and what better way to get at the mancs if he was to become a massive hit for us

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28 Oct 2010 17:53:09
So quick and not that expensive, alexsis sanchez not as cheap as brunt but not outrageus

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28 Oct 2010 17:52:57
Quick idea:
As it is possible that someone from the club management may have their attention drawn to this site, I propose asking the Ed's for a short time only to publish a Poll page. (not sure if it is possible)

Basically, all the prospective new managers, plus the incumbent manager would have a believable and an unbelievable button, you simply click believable for who you want, unbelievables will not count. We can limit the choice to the top 5 in the popular betting, and Roy.

Just a thought as to how we can put our wishes to the management in a coherent way. :) {ed's note - I will see what I can do for you.}

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28 Oct 2010 17:42:31
Well then how about chris brunt ed apparenlly 8 million {ed's note - not for me, we need pace and he lacks that badly.}

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28 Oct 2010 17:38:07
"Man ROY is a genius"

Nice to see someone has a sense of humour :-)

(sorry ed, could not resist it)

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28 Oct 2010 17:35:32
Well how about Oscar Cordozo ed? {ed's note - I am just not sure that it would be worth spending that much on one player, he is going to be extremely pricey.}

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28 Oct 2010 17:31:41
Why is Hodgson warning other clubs off our players?! ! Is he inviting them to make an offer? Never before have I seen a Liverpool manager come right out of the blue and make us sound so vulnerable! Please, Mr. Hodgson, we are LFC! our players, specially loyal passionate ones, will not leave unless they are unhappy! Is Reina unhappy? Is he? Then please, FGS, don't say anything. .
I am one of your supporters and I have a feeling you will do a very good job for LFC, better than in our wildest dreams. .yes. But please. .stop making us worry.
Tam from London

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28 Oct 2010 17:23:03
I would prefer Carlton Cole to Vucinic, Vuicinic is nowhere near a premier league player.

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28 Oct 2010 17:16:19
I agree with the fact that at this moment we would not fill a 60,000 stadium
i have followed liverpool for a very long time and if the club sorted the advertisement of tickets and the distribution of tickets out, 60,000 would be very easy to attract, it is some sort of secret sometimes how to get a ticket from liverpool, i remember olympiacos away we were in athens and the tickets for the return leg went on sale the day after the game, we are supposed to be a club that loves its fans i have always found otherwise, we have to take a look at the mancs and how they went about ticket sales over the last 15 seasons i am confident the new owners will address this ticket problem, the fans are definatley out there to attract to games
bob


I agree mate, It's really difficult to organise getting over from Ireland., an increase in capacity would mean I could go over 3 or 4 times a year season instead of once.
Although. . Last time we went, we booked flights for a Saturday game 6 weeks in advance. The game was changed to Sunday and we lost the money (200) We were already out 160 for tickets, so we took a ferry on Sunday morning from Dublin. Arrived in Holyhead 11.30, got caught in traffic for the tunnel and sat down literally 30 seconds before kick-off. After the match we had to run to the car and head straight back to holyhead, making the boat with 7 minutes to spare. Total spend for 2 adults and 2 kids inc the flights: 660. The match we seen?

Blackpool.

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Yikes! All that for Blackpool! Well, someone in the media suggested that if NESV choose to upgrade Anfield rather than build a new stadium that they might consider using the Aviva stadium for home games during the renovations. Massive Liverpool support here in Ireland so there would be no problem with selling tickets. Plus, NESV could organise ferries from Holyhead for fans from the city. Can't see it ever happening to be honest, but it would be outstanding if it did.

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28 Oct 2010 17:11:10
Woy *will* spend 15m on Carlton Cole, can't you just feel it in your water? oh dear. .

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28 Oct 2010 17:09:35
Spanish daily Sport is reporting that Liverpool have contacted Real Madrid over the availability of their Dutch wing back Royston Drenthe.

AK47 {ed's note - he has a bit of an attitude problem apparently, but he has been performing well for Hercules in the games I have seen. They are being shown on Sky again this weekend too, so I will have another look at him. He would certainly fill in some gaps in the squad.}

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I think most Liverpool fans just don't like him because that scene he had against us a while back. but, put that aside people he would be perfect! for us. Powerful, speed, aggression he bosses the WB position and at 23 very good age. look how he played against barca with Hercules when Hercules won, he defended but also was an attacking threat something that we haven't had on the left side since Risse. Plus he'd be cheap and would fit into the type of player NESV would want. Get him along with Honda, Afellay (24), Llorente/ Gomez/ L.Lopez/ Hazard. . then that would be the best bit of business we had done in a long long time.
RD 8M - 23
KH 12M - 24
IA 2-4M or get him to sign a contract for next summer.
Fernando Llorente (25) , Mario Gomez (25), Eden Hazard (19) - 18M
or Lisandro Lopez 12M (27)

Team after Jan

Reina
Kelly/ Johnson, Skrtel, Agger, Drenthe*
Gerrard, Meireles
Afellay* Honda*
Torres, L.Lopez/ F.Llorente/ M.Gomez/ E.Hazard*

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28 Oct 2010 17:07:29
Yeah sorry i just read my post and it kind of sounds as if im having a go at the editors, which wasnt my intention at all. I appreciate why they edited my posts because I know there are people out there with ridiculously flimsy sensibilities. My point was that those people shouldnt ruin it for the rest of us who are quite happy to fling insults around, safe in the knowledge that they are essentially just words and arent going to do any real harm. At the end of the day you have to be criticised in order to grow. Anyway, sorry editors if that's how it sounded. Duckula {ed's note - no worries mate, I understood the point you were trying to make.}

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28 Oct 2010 17:07:11
Man City are set to offer Liverpool 4 players and £20mil for Fernando Torres. . Santa Cruz, Barry, Wright-Phillips, Wayne Bridge. Liverpool will reject though, due to the fact all these players are around 30 years old.
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28 Oct 2010 16:59:14
Apparently liverpool are interested in roma striker mirko vucinic, oppinions ed(s) {ed's note - a step up from Ngog, but not exactly a player to get excited over, hard to say how well he will adjust to English football either.}

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28 Oct 2010 16:55:38
Man City are set to offer Liverpool 4 players and £20mil for Fernando Torres. . Santa Cruz, Barry, Wright-Phillips, Wayne Bridge. Liverpool will reject though, due to the fact all these players are around 30 years old.

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28 Oct 2010 16:49:06
All the comments thrown suggesting NESV won't spend cash is nonsense. they said they will spend wisely on players that have resale value. This also means if there is a 20 year old player that has £25 mil value and has a potential to be the next Messi or Ronaldo, i don't think they will hesitate. but i believe that we are after Young and quality players that cost around £10 to £20 mil.
Editor, i like this site but i wish you had a separate page where you can post your own rumors and we comment on them. not the other way around.
At the moment there are a couple of comments not related to football or real transfer rumors and we have to go through all of them. Whoever made this site, is it that difficult to organize the style. for instance, every time when some one make a replay for a rumor, we happen to read the original rumor again and again and again. programatically it isn't much work to put all replays under the original rumor. I can help with the styling of the page if you are interested.

miccmak {ed's note - it isn't a problem doing that, but it would just make the site the same as a hundred other forums.}

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28 Oct 2010 16:47:52
Liverpool to target 3 players in January whose contracts expire next summer. Enquiries will be made as to their cost in January, which if too expensive, signings will be put off until the summer, although Bosman type contracts will be offered.
The players in question are:
Mexes
Taiwo
Afellay

Other possible january targets will be Honda/ Mata/ Young and a new centre forward.

Team will be something like this. .
Reina, Johnson, Taiwo, Mexes Agger, Meireles, Gerrard, Cole, Afellay, Torres , Kuyt.

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28 Oct 2010 16:42:14
I see we are linked with drenthe again, who is taking the spanish league by storm apparently at hercules. . he's who we should have signed instead of babel!

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28 Oct 2010 16:36:53
Whats even more comedic that your rant at kids playing football manager is that with all of your fictious buys, you still left Glen Johnson in the side!

* *WELSH KOPITE* *
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Whats even more comical then is that you can't read. Someone took what I wrote and added all of that stuff in to make my post look silly. Read back son.

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28 Oct 2010 16:28:00
Whats even more comedic that your rant at kids playing football manager is that with all of your fictious buys, you still left Glen Johnson in the side!

* *WELSH KOPITE* *

Its actually getting really annoying how silly little kids are constantly coming onto this website and posting things like - Sell: Babel £10m, Lucas £6m, Kuyt £8m, N'Gog £4m, Maxi £6m, Poulsen £3m, Spearing £5m . . . .= £42m + £30m from NESV = £72m. Buy: Schweinstager £15m, Mata £15m, Llorente £20m, Contreao £22. . .

Seriously annoying now. This isn't football manager. .

My team would then be;

Reina
Johnson Pepe Pique Cole
Alonso Gerrard Iniesta
Messi Torres Higuain

are you for real lad, you pick an all star team with the likes of messi higuian and pique and you leave johnson at rightback. whats that all about the lad is about as good defending as a lampost

griffo y.n.w.a

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28 Oct 2010 16:26:21
Liverpool are prepared to swoop for Roma striker Mirko Vucinic in the January transfer window. The Roma Quotidiano and several English tabloids are reporting that Roy Hodgson will make a £14m move for the striker, who can also operate on the left, right or behind the striker.

Vucinic has had a rocky relationship with Roma manager Claudio Ranieri and added to a poor start to the season, the Montenegro striker has become disillusioned with life at the Stadio Olimpico. He is said to be interested in a move to Anfield, and would welcome the opportunity to play with players like Steven Gerrard, Fernando Torres and Joe Cole.

Roy Hodgson sees Vucinic as an ideal partner for Fernando Torres and believes a signing of his calibre could convince star names such as Pepe Reina and Fernando Torres that their future lies at Anfield.

Whether Roma would be willing to let the striker leave for £14m is questionable, but with the player desperate to leave and the threat of dressing room tension, they could be forced to sell.

Liverpool will have to move quickly, as the player is reportidly being monitered by Jose Mourinho at Real Madrid, Rafa Benitez at Inter, and Carlo Ancelotti at Chelsea.

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28 Oct 2010 16:18:11
Team I want to see in January

REINA

JOHNSON. . . . AGGER. . . .SKRTEL. . . .AURELIOKUYT. . . GERRARD. . . . . MEIRELES. . . HAZARD/ COLE


COLE/ PACHECO

TORRES


Dont expect us to go out and buy five or six players in January.

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28 Oct 2010 16:15:49
Well I see the "He's got a clause in his contract" routine has been rolled out again eh, Now there all trying to sell Pepe, knowing he has 5 and a half years left on his contract this was the only way they could start a rumour about him and Nando. Firstly, Liverpool would be insane to grant them both a clause in their contracts and Secondly because they haven't they would cost another club an absolute fortune. Talks*ite have grasped this with both hands and as usual are trying to unsettle LFC fans. What do you think Ed. . {ed's note - I think you are spot on mate.}

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28 Oct 2010 16:04:53
Guys come on the ed's put in a lot of of work to make this site work for us so can we stop being pathetic and get back to rumours.

In rumours does anyone know how reliable that LFC transfer spec guy is on twiiter and facebook he's making alot of rumours wondered if theres truth behind some of them?

ed great work and you know about this guy ? {ed's note - I don't know anything about him sorry, have you got a link so I can check him out?}

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28 Oct 2010 15:59:39
To whoever posted this:

28 Oct 2010 13:54:24
"If I was Fernando Torres, I would expect every top club in Europe to be chasing me. That's good as it means he's doing his job. But we don't need the money and we don't want to sell."

Man ROY is a genius and I think now he is getting a backing up of the plaeyrs.

Don't you think the proper comment should have been "hands off - he is not for sale at any price" ?

Not wanting to sell and not for sale are completely different scenarios.

Roy always has to use 50 words when just a few are needed.

KBL

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28 Oct 2010 15:59:20
Somebody mention my family!

Ron Mason

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28 Oct 2010 15:54:03
I'm a Pool fan from SA & frist I would like to congradulate the ed(s) for a site I frequantly visit & love. Would make a donation, but forgive us third world fans are but low on the funds.

I don't have a rumour but would like to add my 5cents in the whole "BUY EVERYONE" hat which usually happens when transfers windows comes.

I know the new owners are looking at young talent with the potential to improve, there for increase in value. However, the first step should be to strenghten the squad & solidify a europe spot & maybe send a clear message to our competition.For the midfiled I would hope we seariously look at Daniel de Rossi, tackticle, solid & excellent distributer. Has an edge, just ask the yanks in the wordl cup 08 & his loyalty ro Rom, a says much of the man.We maybe able to broker a deal using Poulson/ Lucas(who is improving) plus additional funds.Also a player like Joey Barton, has had trouble, but his life has changed from it.Is EPL experienced & english, was one of the most underrated talents while at City & a Pool fan.A striker maybe ok with the like of Gomez from Bayern being looked at. Lets not forget talents like Cordozo, Llorente, Quigrielle(spelling), Hulk, Adriano. Options cheaper & with the right motifation we can get the best out of these players.

Our defence is not as dire as we might fear.The back four if all fit should read like this. .Johnson, Carra, Sketl/ Agger, Konschesky.No matter what you say if given a good run that will be a decent if not too flashy defence.Which is what we need.add the youth & reserves yet to brake throught then we all can rest assured that we will be fine at the back. In the summer we can ry & invest but now it's about consolidating & grinding out results.

We have to earn the right to play free flowing footy & that's what we have yet to do.Keep the faith & walk on, walk on! ! {ed's note - Barton is not a Pool fan mate, he is a bluenose.}

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28 Oct 2010 15:48:10
Some of the names brandished around here are ridiculous especially for the January transfer window. It is notorious for overpriced transfers. NESV say they are going to be savvy with their money which suggests to me that we will be after players no longer wanted by the club or with contracts running down. We all know what the 1st team needs but I would suggest no more than two will come in, in January. Realistic players like; Ibrahim Afellay, Steven Defour, Mario Gomez, Royston Drenthe, Steven Pienaar & Ashley Young. Although to get any of these our league position will have had to improve drastically, but knowing Hodgson we'll probably just get Charlton Cole for a ridiculous fee of £15m of something!

What are your thoughts fellow Reds and Ed?

AK47 {ed's note - I think the leagues that are out of season will be targeted too, ie the Russian and MLS.}

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28 Oct 2010 15:41:01
Simple fact people jokes are exactly that. i for one think the eds on this site are brilliant and are a real laugh if you're that offended by it maybe you should pis* off to the spurs forums im sure ol wide boy arry an his buttfuc*er followers would never make jokes like that! so lay off the eds and get a life we are all just supporters having a laugh and sharing views and opinions nobody means to upset anyone else
REDhunty

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28 Oct 2010 15:23:40
Hello Ed,
don't understand what up with all these people, you are entitled to your opionion as you work on the site and also it is clear you were just using the words in question as a bit of a laugh. these people should get off the site if they don't like it. well done ed. {ed's note - cheers mate.}

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28 Oct 2010 15:23:38
What do you think of Jon Reis from Psv Ed? I know he is on a one year contract because of his past misdemeanors.He is only 21 quick, skillful, and knows where the net is.looks the type of buy nesv would be interested in.He as got to be worth a shout for nothing ed. {ed's note - good player from what I have seen, but I would want to know more about him before buying if it was me. I mean was it just a kid being a kid or is there more to it.}

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28 Oct 2010 15:12:06
Ed, you need to take a look at yourself mate. How can you tell a reader to go 'somewhere else'. I also found the joke offensive. Where do you get off pronouncing that the guy had a 'holier than thou attitude'. He was expressing his opinion. Your job surely is to look through postings and publish them, and it should be done in a benign way. If you would like to announce that you are running an editorial policy then you should publish that on your front page and we can all decide whether we want to contribute to this kind of site. You overstepped the editorial line by commenting in the way you have so in my opinion you need to clarify what you will allow here. Dont ignore this, put it up and see what reaction you get. {ed's note - so it is ok for him to express an opinion accusing someone of being insulting and racist, despite it clearly not being so, but for me to express an opinion is wrong according to you? I have not overstepped anything, it is not your choice to make as to what the line is, no one is forcing you, or anyone else, to contribute to the site.}

Good. Im glad this came up, as iv been pretty disappointed several times recently to have the guts ripped out of my posts by the editors. Fair enough theyv probably done me a favor, but football is all about banter. As long as its not threatening or racist (which i can understand people not wanting to see) i couldnt care less if some randomer that im never gonna meet types some offensive words about me on a forum, because to be honest im not a twelve year old girl. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and if that opinion means they're a muppet then other people have just as much right to tell them so. What? - you want to live in some magical world where no-one is allowed to ridicule your opinions or culture etc? Whatever. You're not at school anymore. You can't go crying to the teacher when you get made to look like a chump. Just deal with it. If you can't take a joke then quite simply you have too much pride. And you're a wellend. Oh and also, wtf is wrong with a bit of cheeky xenophobia? Its not racist. Nothing to do with race. Its a national identity which is as open to ridicule as any other facet of society. Like the fact we eat fish and chips or our trains are yite. If you were chinese i might let u off, but otherwise you're just a whingeing hypocrit. You have become so affected by the pc mentality that you now feel it is the governments job to stop people making you feel bad (thats all political correctness is, the government intervening in peoples emotional transactions to protect the weak minded and easily led) which it really isnt, it's your fault for letting it affect you. If you don't have a spine or aren't intelligent enough to defend yourself from a verbal attack, or more importantly too proud to acknowledge any frailty, lets be honest you're never gonna make it in the world, and you certainly shouldnt be looking at the BANTER section of a football fans website.
So in short, why can't i say yanks have black blood and half french souls (even tho i quite like them as a rule)

or tell the moaning masses to stop weeping like teased vaginas (a classic brasseye line).

Banter is just that. Banter. Toughen up girls we're beginning to sound french! Duckula

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28 Oct 2010 15:11:14
Hey Ed, I love this site and check in all the time to see what banter/ rumours/ rubbish stories are doing the rounds. After checking it out for some 3 months i am yet to see any truth in the rumours though? Who on here are the ones to look out for that post geniune, hard fact information about our beloved reds? {ed's note - you are pushing my memory here, there are so many posters it is hard to remember who is who. Best way might well be to put their name in the search box to get an idea of what they have posted.}

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28 Oct 2010 14:35:13
"No, the really funny thing is that you think 'comedic' is a word.
That's the funnyitous part! {ed's note - erm, comedic is a word, it means 'of or relating to comedy'.}"

Oh, you got told! nice one ed you big racist b* * *d! !;-)

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28 Oct 2010 14:32:38
To the monk (if allowed) jokes are to be laughed at, or not, if you find it funny laugh if not dont, some people on here are wierd i would go nuts dealing with the total sh@t posted on here without having a laugh the ed is a cracker, if you take offence easily take up swimming on your own

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28 Oct 2010 14:31:24
Ed newcastle went down that's y their defence looked better when given left them and city bought 3 defenders and a holding midfielder in the summer so they should be better at the back. Are u tryin to tell me Hart hasnt had to be man of the match on more then 1 occasion this season already. Ya its all givens fault the 2 teams he played for hadnt a decent CB between them. Get a grip. He has been a solid goalkeeper for years always reliable. If he was english he would have been ye'r no 1 since Seaman retired. Typical. {ed's note - he played behind some very good centre backs who look poor because he is not organising them correctly. Newcastle's defence was a joke during his entire career there, yet they had some very good defenders individually. I really don't care about his nationality, I couldn't give a monkey's about any international team, I only support one side. He is a great shotstopper is Given, but if he was able to organise the defence properly he would be a great keeper as well.}

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28 Oct 2010 14:27:58
Whats even more comedic that your rant at kids playing football manager is that with all of your fictious buys, you still left Glen Johnson in the side!

No, the really funny thing is that you think 'comedic' is a word.
That's the funnyitous part! {ed's note - erm, comedic is a word, it means 'of or relating to comedy'.}

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28 Oct 2010 14:24:26
Hi Ed,

I am not sure whether you will want to publish this- it is not a rumour but a true statement of fact after seeing what the Mirror published this morning.

I read the article and not recognizing the name of the reporter, I got in touch with the reporter that normally covers Liverpool. He informs me that the lad is a chancer and does not actually know anything about sport. He has also been sacked by many of the other national newspapers because of this.

The article should never have been published and I have emailed a senior editior on the Mirror and made a major complaint.

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28 Oct 2010 14:24:05
I wouldn't expect us to be signing a new left back any time soon. Roy effectively signed 2 during the summer. It would be pretty embarrassing for him to have to go back into the market for another one. That doesn't sound like effective use of a transfer kitty to me.

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28 Oct 2010 14:19:44
Hi Ed,
Could you please advise me on what you think the current situation with the manager, having heard the strong rumours of player unrest with roy and not convinced by his methods, are there any signs of him being removed from his post as it seems crazy to wait till the situation could get a lot worse in a few months time eg if results go wrong and players get even more dishearted with him in charge? thanks ed/ eds {ed's note - I was told that they have been assured he is not a long term appointment.}

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28 Oct 2010 14:18:32
You have stepped over the line actually, my point is not that you are not allowed an opinion, you control the site, but that allowing the kind of racist comments that is seen as 'being OK between mates' in the way you have is a very dangerous policy to have. You have to now make editorial decisions about more abrasive comments that may be posted as you've lowered the bar. It's very easy to see 'hardly offensive' jokes as being just that, but not if you're on the receiving end, trust me on that one. {ed's note - I am not allowed to have an opinion? This debate is ended because you are clearly on the wrong site, if you want a site with no editorial input or opinion go and make your own. The only person who has overstepped the mark is you.}

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28 Oct 2010 14:18:26
Like the idea of future liverpool may be in 5 or 6 years time. Guys, lets start with this thing. should be fun.

reina (age 33)(captain)
kelly wilson agger(30) mavinga
amoo shevley spearing (hazard/ elia)
pacheco suso

stoppers can play until the age of 40 plus, so that will make reina our main keepe. agger will the next carra.
might be players like turan, honda, and etc will be there also because at some moment in their life they wish to play in liverpool.

what do you think ed? {ed's note - I wouldn't expect Spearing to be at the club myself mate, but the rest would be good.}

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28 Oct 2010 14:16:33
As much as I hate to admit it, Chelsea do have the best tactics in the league, with a physical midfield and attack.

So my point is, if we get a big cente forward in January, do you think Torres could play the 'Anelka role' of playing slightly on the right, but also cutting in. The 'Malouda role could either go to Cole, Kuyt or another player if you wanted. We also need a physical presence Essien type player in midfield so Gerrard can be more positive. A new left back would also be nice.

So I would go for

Llorente(priority signing)- £20m
Martinez- £12m
Coentrao(would be nice but probably too expensive), so if not Taiwo- £7m

Team after January;

Reina

Johnson Kelly/ Skrtel Agger Taiwo

Gerrard Martinez Meireles

Torres Llorente Cole/ Kuyt/ Pacheco

With this team the defense has improved and there is pace, in the midfield there is height and physicality, and up front there are different qualities.

In the Summer I would sell Skrtel and put my money into a top centre back, and my choice would be David Luiz or Gary Cahill.

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28 Oct 2010 14:11:22
Jokes are jokes the irish lads have had it for donkeys years, there are thousands of scouse jokes who cares? its a working class city and humour of all types is our trade mark, no one is to big or to good to have the mick taken, get a life, in the standing on the kop days you would of died hearing some of the shouts and statements that came out, deal with it or support a rowing club

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28 Oct 2010 14:10:08
Ay ed can the likes ov liverpool take a paper to court for miss leading supporters. i think if one club done this there wouldn't be so much crap in papers day in day out. . some people say it makes good reading it sells papers but surly truth has to be number 1 {ed's note - I am sure they could have a case if the story can be proved to be false. It would be good if they put a stop to all the rubbish that comes out of papers all the time.}

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28 Oct 2010 14:08:28
Liverpool will not be able to attract big names because of their history anymore so they will have to make sure any bids are going to be backed up with a rather large investment in wages therefore i think liverpool will sign:
Forlan 17.5M
Sahin 10.5M
Hazard 18M
Mexes 5.5M
and if we make big sales then we might be able to afford Coentrao 16M

I am certain Aquilani will join juve permanently at the end of his loan deal
OFFLOAD
Itandje 1M
Babel 8M
Jova 7M
Aurelio 2.5M
Aqui 13M
That will make 31.5m on top of the money in the region of 25-30m.
leaving this as our lineup

Reina
Johnson, Agger, Skrtel, Mexes/ carra/ soto/ kelly
Gerrard, Meireles, J.cole/ Kuyt/ Sahin, Hazard
Torres, Forlan

Ell76

ED,
Do you think that could get us a healthy Europa league spot. {ed's note - there is almost no chance of this happening mate.}

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28 Oct 2010 14:06:00
I have seen many posts and most of them include 'Selling Lucas' in January.

For God's sake don't u see how improved he is this season? He now plays an attacking role and does his job. Did ny1 see the recent Blackburn game? I say put Poulsen on bench and put Meireles and Lucas in lineup everytime . He's 23 and is now a Brazil Regular. He might soon turn into a Gem, u never know.
Ed what do u think of Lucas's recent performances compared to Poulsen ?

Born Red {ed's note - Lucas has improved massively the last couple of seasons, I would definitely sell Poulsen instead of him and probably Spearing as well.}

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28 Oct 2010 14:02:23
Ed, do you think NESV would want a manager who's a bit more marketable/ famous then Roy hodgson who also has the ability to win things? hodgson doesn't exactly strike as the type of man who can attract the top draw, with regards to players, ok
he's managed alot of teams across Europe but other then inter no major
ones.

and secondly, who do you think the candidates would, and should be? {ed's note - I do think they will want to get someone in who presents the right public face, someone who can say the right things. I think that safely rules out MON, who spends far too much time bickering with people.}

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28 Oct 2010 13:59:41
Ed, you need to take a look at yourself mate. How can you tell a reader to go 'somewhere else'. I also found the joke offensive. Where do you get off pronouncing that the guy had a 'holier than thou attitude'. He was expressing his opinion. Your job surely is to look through postings and publish them, and it should be done in a benign way. If you would like to announce that you are running an editorial policy then you should publish that on your front page and we can all decide whether we want to contribute to this kind of site. You overstepped the editorial line by commenting in the way you have so in my opinion you need to clarify what you will allow here. Dont ignore this, put it up and see what reaction you get. {ed's note - so it is ok for him to express an opinion accusing someone of being insulting and racist, despite it clearly not being so, but for me to express an opinion is wrong according to you? I have not overstepped anything, it is not your choice to make as to what the line is, no one is forcing you, or anyone else, to contribute to the site.}

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28 Oct 2010 13:54:24
"If I was Fernando Torres, I would expect every top club in Europe to be chasing me. That's good as it means he's doing his job. But we don't need the money and we don't want to sell."

Man ROY is a genius and I think now he is getting a backing up of the plaeyrs.

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28 Oct 2010 13:52:17
Don't tarnish them all with, black, chineses, pakistani jokes, this aint the k.k.k {ed's note - sorry mate, I forgot these days no one is allowed to have a sense of humour! This was not an insult to the guy's race or anything else, purely a play on words. So please take your holier than thou politically correct rubbish elsewhere.}

Love it Ed, fair play! Some people are just plain boring

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28 Oct 2010 13:46:42
To the editor, why do you let ignorant stuff like this on: Lee Chun Yong is fantastic, but only with fried rice and a little soy sauce.

cant you see it gives liverpool fans a bad name, liverpool fans are made up of a variety of races.

don't tarnish them all with, black, chineses, pakistani jokes, this aint the k.k.k {ed's note - sorry mate, I forgot these days no one is allowed to have a sense of humour! This was not an insult to the guy's race or anything else, purely a play on words. So please take your holier than thou politically correct rubbish elsewhere.}

is right ed nothink insulting raciest or any bad about that comment at all. . people start to bring insults into most ov all jokes now adays. . . like am going to the shop the packies (packistan)down the rd. . . people say you shouldnt say that as its racist. well am i being racist to me saying am scouse apose to scouser. wots won't with a joke about a chippy fwide wice. . . scouse humour to one who complained. its not isulting in any way shape or form

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28 Oct 2010 13:43:48
Lucas is on his way to Benfica in january for £4mil. Shelvey is seen as a more than capable of stepping up in Lucas place. Ryan Babel will be offered in a straight swap for Ibrahim Affalley. Freeing up extra funds for Fernando Lllorente and Juan Mata. The Mata deal has already been agreed in princable for £18mil.

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28 Oct 2010 13:43:24
Ed i just read we being liked with cordoza from what i have seen when he plays he seems quite sluggish an unenthusiastic is this just the games ive seen because i think he has a good goalscoring record or is he not that great
REDhunty {ed's note - he would not be a player I would look at, I have not been impressed by any of the performances I saw.}

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28 Oct 2010 13:42:35
Quote:
Part of Henry's philosophy is that having a winning team on the field makes the club more marketable and noticed world-wide, which means spending money. He also believes that popular names, with good looks, can increase commerce so long-term could pay off.

- Does that mean the end of The Greek and Kuyt (amongst others)? Their faces arent really gonna lift the brand name are they. . .

Liverpool should be going for a decent / Proper DM, and a LB. . . Rest of the team is as good as it's been in the last 3 years.

Rich.

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28 Oct 2010 13:40:22
Beard debate. . . You are not allowed a beard in horse racing. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
beard just slowes you down wind catching your facial hair. .
am telling its prof boxing because it can be used as a wepon they say( rubbing into face eyes)
dave {ed's note - the answer was given last night - it is horse racing, boxers are allowed beards but most prefer not to because they believe it makes it easier to slip punches.}

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28 Oct 2010 13:35:39
Does anyone know if agger is injured? or does he not fit into roys plans/ style of play? just don't understand why our best [by a long stretch] central defender cannot seam to get a game. anyone know? {ed's note -the official reason for him not in the squad is illness.}

illness?
agger was first player to say he wouldn't play roys way and he would carry on his footballing ways. .
dave

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28 Oct 2010 13:35:24
If we add 20,000 seats to anfield then this would generate a further £800,000 or so each home game, which across a season would be approx. £16M (excluding cup games).

If Anfield took 65,000 now, I very much doubt we would fill it, and looking at the attendances at the Europa games we still struggle when tickets were sold at £20 an adult.

The only way that the stadium can be developed is after some financial commitment has been made to the playing staff and a change in the way we play (Blackburn was actually quite good to watch for a change).

If the team is worth watching and competing again then we will be generating more money through a full Anfield in all competitions, have our TV money from the Champions League back plus the payouts from results in the CL too.

I am no businessman, but to me "build it and they will come" doesn't quite equate when you have to watch some of the tat we have endured all season.

A few star buys, even targeting players from asia and usa will generate the club more income from merchandising.

I wish for the board to be in place asap and some more performances like Sunday!

* *WELSH KOPITE* *

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28 Oct 2010 13:31:18
Ed id love to be able to take your words to heart about mirror rumours, but if you look at both Torres and reina. the both look like they are grieving the lost of hole lives family wealth the lot. they just look happy at all. i may be premature but am starting to feel like we ain't coming back to top 4 for a long long time. we need Roy out and out now get a manager in that players walk out of training and after a game with a smile on there faces not one player has a smile and looks lively, the new regime is all wrong you only have to open ye eyes to see it, Blackburn was better yes but was it in any shape a Liverpool team, for 5 Min's i seen a good team play on 60-65 minutes that match of the day did not show. 5 minutes from all 20 games that Roy has been in charge ov.
dave. . {ed's note - Reina loves it at Liverpool, he loves the city and he loves the team, I don't know where you have got this idea he would want to leave from.}

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28 Oct 2010 13:30:43
First of all let me say i don't want to see Reina or Torres leave, but if they want to leave the greatest club in the world its their loss. If they leave we would bank minimum £20m for Reina and £40m Torres. If (big if hopefully) they leave we have no debt so all the money can be reinvested in the squad, that's £60m + £20m from owners. Shay Given would be available for around £7m then invest in good young players like Hazard(mid) Sahko(cb) Lorente(st) Muller(st) Affeally(mid) Hamsik(mid). Just a tought its all about the future and if current players don't want to be part of that then let then go on our terms. What do u think ed. {ed's note - I would rather hang on to Reina no matter what, you can't replace him with Given! He can't organise a defence to save his life - that is why he gets to show what a good shotstopper he is so often. If he just organised the defence he wouldn't have to make 80 saves a match. Do you think it is a coincidence that Newcastle's defence tightened up the moment he was sold? Or that City suddenly look solid at the back now he is watching rather than playing?}

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28 Oct 2010 13:22:03
Whats even more comedic that your rant at kids playing football manager is that with all of your fictious buys, you still left Glen Johnson in the side!

* *WELSH KOPITE* *

Its actually getting really annoying how silly little kids are constantly coming onto this website and posting things like - Sell: Babel £10m, Lucas £6m, Kuyt £8m, N'Gog £4m, Maxi £6m, Poulsen £3m, Spearing £5m . . . .= £42m + £30m from NESV = £72m. Buy: Schweinstager £15m, Mata £15m, Llorente £20m, Contreao £22. . .

Seriously annoying now. This isn't football manager. .

My team would then be;

Reina
Johnson Pepe Pique Cole
Alonso Gerrard Iniesta
Messi Torres Higuain

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28 Oct 2010 13:21:15
Lewis holtby is an everton fan and would love to play for them. rules us out then {ed's note - Steven Pienaar is a Liverpool fan who would love to play for us, as is Leighton Baines, didn't stop either of them signing for Everton did it? I seem to remember Fowler, McManaman, Owen etc all playing for us and they supported Everton.}

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28 Oct 2010 13:20:17
David Maddock of the Daily Mirror has informed me that James Fletcher is a freelance reporter and has beem sacked by several newspapers! Everything he wrote this morning regarding `secret conract agreements etc` regarding Torres and Reina is a load of rubbish and will not probably write for the mirror again!

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28 Oct 2010 13:19:16
HI ed I hear you all talking about pep guardiola to liverpool but it won't happen, i live in barcelona and yes he doesn't really see eye to eye with sandro rosell partly because guardiola did all the transfers last season and they were terrible chygrinski 22million and swap ibra and eto'o plus 40 mill to inter, and mascherano 18 million this year who doesn't fit into the team and its style, personally i wouldn't wish him to go to liverpool as anybody could coach this barca team and he has not been tested yet as such.yes he wants to play the game the right way but could he do it at liverpool with limited quality and j carra humping it every time he gets it.

VERDE. {ed's note - I would hope that he would give Ayala a run rather than Carra.....}

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28 Oct 2010 13:18:33
I have it on good authority that Mario Gomez will be joining Liverpool in January on loan, with an option to buy.

Hodgson did want to buy 'out right' but the new owners are concerned about the wage demands and want to see if he can perform in the EPL before they commit (seems sensible) - if he does perform, his purchase will still be dependant on if we manage to secure the signature of the Anderlecht striker, Romelu Lukaku, who is the number one target.

The 17 year old has been likened to Drogba (without the diving) and is expected to command a fee in the region of £25m and, although high, he is exactly the type of player the owners have demanded i.e. young, with the potential to increase his 'worth' over time.

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28 Oct 2010 13:05:18
To the editor, why do you let ignorant stuff like this on: Lee Chun Yong is fantastic, but only with fried rice and a little soy sauce.

cant you see it gives liverpool fans a bad name, liverpool fans are made up of a variety of races.

don't tarnish them all with, black, chineses, pakistani jokes, this aint the k.k.k {ed's note - sorry mate, I forgot these days no one is allowed to have a sense of humour! This was not an insult to the guy's race or anything else, purely a play on words. So please take your holier than thou politically correct rubbish elsewhere.}

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28 Oct 2010 13:03:09
It must have been a quiet newsdesk at the Mirror last night. How wrong can that guy be. The pickled Jock on Talks* *t every morning has had Nando sold to City for almost two years now, 'Deal done, he's on his way, heard it from best possible source' How many times as he said that. Then, in the summer the Ginger bloke in the afternoon actually stopped his show to broadcast 'breaking news' that 'A deal has been confirmed that Fernando Torres is to join Man City'. Kicking us when were down, its all it is.
We all know the state were in and we will back our club to the hilt, but alot of the guesses on here about possible buys are wide of the mark. RS Cruz, Young, SWP, or Pavyluchenko are not anywhere near good enough. Nando's the man, he doesn't need a 'foil' he does it on his own. Width is whats needed to supply him.

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28 Oct 2010 13:02:13
Firstly - Please stop repeating the rumour that both Torres and Reina have this 'secret' clause in their contracts and will be leaving in January - The clause's do exsist (and always have), but a minimum release clause is fairly standard these days and would always take into account both the players projected worth and their 'marketing' value to the club, so I would be amazed if Torre's is under £80m and Reina under £30m - - Just because a player is a little unhappy, no right minded business would re-write a contract effectively allowing two of their prize assets to go on the 'cheap' - And remember, when this was supposed to have happened, Mork and Mindy were not pulling the strings - Two strong minded businessmen in the form of Broughton and Purslow were in charge - so it would NEVER have happened.

I imagine there are a few greedy agents have been spreading rumours to try to unsettle the players / team.

Moving forward - All true Liverpool fans should be delighted with the noises coming out of Anfield - We finally have owners who do not just want a quick fix but are looking to the future - Not much will happen in January on the player front, but we will see a new high profile manager take over (he will be our only major signing).

He will then have until the summer to assess the playing staff and will be handed a healthy transfer budget in the region of £60m - However, his brief will be to 'reduce' the wage bill, which will mean a few of the 'well paid' players may be shown the door - So expect the likes of Kuyt, Poulsen, Babel, Jovanovic etc. to go, and make way for some of the worlds best 'prospects'. Plus all the dead wood i.e. Itandje, El Zhar, Degan etc. will either be sold or have their contracts termination.

This will mean we cannot expect immediate success, but I for one will be willing to wait.

If we can pick up the likes of Hazard etc and add them to the already exciting list of: Pacheco, Ayala, Mavinga, Kelly, Wilson, Shelvey and Amoo, we could be great once again!

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28 Oct 2010 12:49:01
Danny williams who converted to muslim had a beard when he fought audley harrison, he also had one when he fought mike tyson.tommy hearns had one so did roberto duran.they are allowed in boxing, but only a certain length, you couldn, t have a bin laden or zz top beard:

Mate, Subaig Singh is in the MMA's, he's a practising Sikh and has never cut his hair or beard. . so its allowed in that sport.

Panjabi Scouse
YNWA

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28 Oct 2010 12:46:34
Well, it is either true, or the Dail Mirror is up to their old tricks again:

Striker Fernando Torres and goalkeeper Pepe Reina are ready to quit Liverpool in January because of escape clauses in their contracts.
Full story: Daily Mirror

Surely, this cannot be allowed to happen, especially to clubs like Man Utd, Arsenal & Tottenham! !

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28 Oct 2010 12:31:56
Do you know what the only sport in the world is were your not aloud to have a beard?

muffdiving. . . apparently the world champion had a brazillian in the final. .

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28 Oct 2010 12:30:50
LATEST ODDS
FRANK RIJAARD 4/ 5
MON 5/ 1
PELLERGINI 5/ 1
KENNY 8/ 1
MARK HUGHES 14/ 1
FLORES 16/ 1

FROM PADDY POWER

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28 Oct 2010 12:30:41
'Liverpool to ban Daily Mirror from Anfield and Melwood as well as issuing legal proceedings against the paper'

Hope this is true as they have some sort of agenda against the most succesful team in the history of English football. Something has to be done to stop their lies and misinformation

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28 Oct 2010 12:29:46
Ed is our interest in Fabio Coentrao serious? because apparently Benfica have accepted they will have to sell and are ready to cash in January. They have identified Ivan Strinic of Hajduk Split. as a replacment and this guys agent has been spotted in Lisbon with Benfica officials. I live in hope! ! {ed's note - it is, but we aren't the only ones who want him and his price might force us to look elsewhere.}

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28 Oct 2010 12:23:12
Tell you what if the 4 links on the lfc website happen il be ecstatic
Coentrao
Affelay
Cardozo
Forlan

Sell some deadweight players plus the nesv 30 mill its achievable

Line up
Reina
Kelly soto agger coentrao
Meireles
Gerrard cole
Forlan
Torres cardozo

I mean come on that's a quality line up. .
Ed think any of this could happen or am i away with the fairies mate?
Merseyred {ed's note - I don't believe there is any chance of Forlan, thankfully, he doesn't fit in with the strategy NESV have outlined.}

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28 Oct 2010 12:22:47
Any thoughts ed/ editor? {ed's note - on paper it is a big improvement, I am not sure that I would be happy with that defence though, the full backs would be a weak spot.}

Yeah that's what I thought too. I don't think there's a way to improve every position in the whole team just in this January transfer window. In the summer we can focus on the defense and the dead wood. We would need a good young quality cb (Cahill) and a strong solid left back (Warnock). I think Aquilani will leave so we can use his money + transfer kitty to replace the dead wood (poulson, kuyt, jova, the greek and konchesky/ aurelio.

So I would sell:
poulson (1 million)
kuyt (7 million)
jova (4 million)
The Greek (1 million)
Aquilani (13 million)

Total= 26 million


26 + 25 = 51

Buy:
Cahill cb (13 million)
Warnock lb (8 million)
Honda st/ cam (12 million)
Tall striker who is very good at heading and tall so we have a plan B when we're struggling. He has be willing to be on the bench fairly often- any suggestions ed.


Next seasons team

Torres
Snchez Hazard

Benega Gerrard
Raul

Warnock Agger Cahill Johnson

Renia

only real problem I see is that we will struggle at set pieces. No real ariel domation here. Ed you think this team is ready to challenge for top 4? {ed's note - I don't think you are right at all, my point is that you picked our worst full backs, not that we need to buy them. Mavinga should be in at left back, he looks good either there or at left sided centre back. Then we have Kelly and Darby for right back, though I wouldn't have said Darby last season, he has improved massively since his loan, and he showed great character and attitude during it. We certainly don't need to buy a centre back, we have Kelly, Ayala, Wilson, Mavinga and Wisdom who should be getting matches.}

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28 Oct 2010 12:22:13
Spanish daily Sport is reporting that Liverpool have contacted Real Madrid over the availability of their Dutch wing back Royston Drenthe. The 23 year old is currently on a season long loan at fellow La Liga side Hercules, and according to the paper, the former Dutch Under 21 international has impressed the Reds during his four appearances for the club so far this season. Drenthe was linked with a move to Liverpool in the summer but nothing materialised and he opted to go out on loan this season to get more first team action. Sport believes Real boss Jose Mourinho would welcome any bid from the Reds for the player as he does not feature in his future first team plans.

What do you think Ed, good signing?

AK47 {ed's note - he has a bit of an attitude problem apparently, but he has been performing well for Hercules in the games I have seen. They are being shown on Sky again this weekend too, so I will have another look at him. He would certainly fill in some gaps in the squad.}

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28 Oct 2010 12:06:40
No Cm's Raul and Gerrard r good
Crusty Poulson and his Butlins gang aint

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28 Oct 2010 11:59:47
Just started hearing rumours about liverpool being in for vucinic of roma. hes 27 years old and a decent player from a few times ive seen him play. have you heard anything on this ed? and how do you rate him

True Red {ed's note - I haven't heard that, but he is a decent enough player, not sure he is someone to get excited about, but he would be an improvement over what we currently have to partner Torres.}

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28 Oct 2010 11:49:22
Everyone seems to have an opinion on who we need without even looking at who we've alredy got. We should look to build a squad around the following:
Reina
Johnson
Agger
Gerrard
Cole
Merieles
Kuyt
Torres
It also wouldn't do us any harm to follow whisky nose's example by buying the best you can for as little as possible. The best example of this being hernandez who only cost 6mil. We had a prime opportunity to go after Van der Vaart, instead we got Poulson. Same cost, leagues apart. I would look at the likes of Podolski, Muller, Lahm, Gomes, and if he really wants to leave citeh, Tevez. Forget Kaka, Aguero, Higuain et al, they are too unrealistic as possible signings. Spare any thoughts ed? {ed's note - VDV cost double what Poulsen cost and is a totally different type of player, the comparison would be Meireles if you are going to compare buys. In which case VDV was cheaper and looks to be a better player too, so far at least, though Meireles is joining a team low on confidence, VDV one high on confidence. Forget Tevez, one his wages are obscene, two his price would be obscene and three he wants to return to Argentina not move to another English club.}

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28 Oct 2010 11:43:40
I believe the sport where you're not allowed a beard is synchronised swimming - partly because they're all women (but that would not exclude a few I've seen) and partly because it's dirty.

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28 Oct 2010 11:35:59
Lee Chun Yong is fantastic, but only with fried rice and a little soy sauce.

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28 Oct 2010 11:34:14
Looks like the negative press are out in force again. Dont believe it people. With NESV now in charge things will get better. The problem is it won't be overnight, one day at a time.New manager soon, better players will come in Jan and the summer, The stadium will be sorted ( new or revamp Anfield ), no debt to pay so money made put straight back into the club. Just keep the faith people and don't get too down when things don't happen straightaway. We will lose games this season and I can't see us making the top 4 but we will see a positive change as the season progresses and hopefully can be challanging next season. Dont listen to people who would love to see our great club go under.

EST.1892

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28 Oct 2010 11:27:07
Ed! How credible is Daily Mirror news & reports. .

Indian Fan {ed's note - it is a load of rubbish mate.}

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28 Oct 2010 11:24:53
Does anyone know if agger is injured? or does he not fit into roys plans/ style of play? just don't understand why our best [by a long stretch] central defender cannot seam to get a game. anyone know? {ed's note -the official reason for him not in the squad is illness.}

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28 Oct 2010 11:22:53
What do you think of this:
Sell:
Babel (7 million)
Lucas (7 million)
skrtel (8 million)
maxi (4 million)

Total 26 million

26 + 25 = 51 million

Buy:
Benega (13 million)
Snchez (20 million)
Hazard (18 million)

Total = 51 million

play a 4 3 3

Torres

Snchez Hazard


Benga. Gerrard
Raul

Aurelio Agger Carragher/ Wilson Johnson

Renia

I am a strong admirer for the 4 3 3 formation. A lot of the top European clubs use it (Barcelona, Chelsea, arsenal, Man city, sometimes Man united). There's probably more but my brain ain't working.

Any thoughts ed/ editor? {ed's note - on paper it is a big improvement, I am not sure that I would be happy with that defence though, the full backs would be a weak spot.}

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28 Oct 2010 11:14:50
You are not allowed a beard in horse racing

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28 Oct 2010 11:09:17
If NESV want to spend their money "wisely" then this should be the team come January,


. . . . . . . . . . . . . . .REINA. . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

JOHNSON. . SHAWCROSS. . AGGER. . CISSOKHO.


SANCHEZ. . . .GERRARD. .MEIRELES. . . . .MATA.


. . . . . . . . . . TORRES. . . GOMEZ. . . . . . . . . .

Now you tellin me we won't win the premier league with that team!?

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28 Oct 2010 11:09:06
I used to speak with Rafa on a regular basis at the school gate as our kids went to the same school and I have always refrained from passing on the rumours as I was told stuff in what I considered to be "in confidence" although this obviously no longer applies!

Back in April when it was all kicking off between Rafa and Purslow in particular he told me a little story of how he had already agreed terms with two players and their clubs during the January transfer window only to have the rug pulled from beneath him. The first was Chamack who was to arrive on a free at the end of the season and of course who has now ended up at Arsenal. Two medicals arranged by Rafa were apparently cancelled by the club. The second was for Eden Hazard for an immediate January transfer as not only terms with the player had been agreed but apparently a fee with his club (Lille) was also agreed. Once again it got to the stage were a medical was scheduled and then cancelled.

A lot of this is not relevant now but there has clearly been lines of communication between Lille, Eden Hazard and LFC already so it may be that this is a deal that has been worked on for quite some time and simply deferred because of the management position .

Lets just hope the experiences so far don't put him off!

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28 Oct 2010 11:05:06
Liverpool will enquire for:

G. Inkler
Honda
M.Gomez


All 3 fit within the criteria set by NESV,

This is the maximum in Januray. Not to many players will leave but expect babel to leave for around 6million. no more. and agger to go for around 4million.

January turnover of players simply won't happen in the volumes some people tend to speculate on this website. 3 in 2 out.

In the summer is when the proper rebuilding process will start. The owners will be settled in, the manager situation will be clearer, and they will no where we stand i.e. europa league place, any FA cup success.

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28 Oct 2010 11:04:06
Why are alot of liverpool fans living in the past? Should we bring owen back? Er no! Should we bring rafa back? Eh no! I even saw someone say the glory days of rafa. . Well there was only a few of them do people forget rotation? Bringing on el zhar when losing for torres. . Yes the man did some great things but he was stubborn and would not learn from his mistakes!
This is a new era for liverpool and the only way for us to move forward is by not forgetting the past but leaving the past and looking to the future! There is no point in looking at the what could ofs all we should focus on is the here and now and get behind the team
P.s those of you naive enough to believe the papers just think of the thousands of articals they post which never ever come close to happening you for get they have to fill the paper and if there is no news they make it! Always been the case any how forgot rafa forget owen forget dalglish as manager and focus on the now
Redrodge

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28 Oct 2010 11:03:46
ED are we still interested in Juan Mata, there was loads of talk about it before the takeover and there's nothing now? {ed's note - that is because right now there is no one to make a decision, Broughton and Purslow were in charge of completing transfers.}

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28 Oct 2010 10:52:57
Danny williams who converted to muslim had a beard when he fought audley harrison, he also had one when he fought mike tyson.tommy hearns had one so did roberto duran.they are allowed in boxing, but only a certain length, you couldn, t have a bin laden or zz top beard.

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28 Oct 2010 10:47:39
I know with all this talk of marketing the club Honda is the ideal buy, but what are people's thoughts on Lee Chung Yong?

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28 Oct 2010 10:46:38
In Reply:
All this is from an extremely reliable source who was right about Hodgson, Cole, and the takeover.

Woody.

Woody, , Where were you when woy took over and where were you wen the take over happened fairly safe targets you have at least made your story beleivable.

Quigz23
YNWA

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28 Oct 2010 10:38:48
Aha ha ha ha firstly the Torres and Reina thing is nonsense! Please don't believe it they just want something to write about poor them silly manc fans. Secondly leT us hope bayern get dzeko because then we can get gomez! ' in the news people top striker!

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28 Oct 2010 10:33:16
28 Oct 2010 06:30:51
Its actually getting really annoying how silly little kids are constantly coming onto this website and posting things like - Sell: Babel £10m, Lucas £6m, Kuyt £8m, N'Gog £4m, Maxi £6m, Poulsen £3m, Spearing £5m . . . .= £42m + £30m from NESV = £72m. Buy: Schweinstager £15m, Mata £15m, Llorente £20m, Contreao £22
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

Seriously annoying now. This isn't football manager kids so time to get out of your fantasy worlds and grow up for goodness sake!

Personally, I would sell Poulsen for £40m, Babel for £50m, and then buy Messi for £5m and swap Kyrgiakos for either Pique or Chiellini. Then I would swap Alonso, Higuain and Pepe for El Zhar. Also, I would do a direct swap of Insua for Ashley Cole

My team would then be;

Reina

Johnson Pepe Pique Cole

Alonso Gerrard Iniesta

Messi Torres Higuain

A very realistic team in my opinion.

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28 Oct 2010 10:25:05
NESV have allocated £30m for transfers in January but on 3 conditions;

1. Any players signed cannot be over 29.
2. Wages cannot be more than £70,000.
3. Players are signed to try and brand Liverpool in other places in the world.

Hope this is true, because the third point, definitely kicks out the players like carlton cole, off the list. . Hope Roy is not going to bring any waste, now. .

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28 Oct 2010 10:22:03
Ed, do you think, we being linked to Eden Hazard is just a media speculation. Or there is some truth in that 1. He would definitely cost some money. But is really a great player. Isn't he? {ed's note - he fits the criteria that the owners are looking for, young, lower wages and potential. I am sure he has been scouted, though no one knows who will be bought in Jan as of yet. No one even knows who will be making the decisions yet!}

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28 Oct 2010 10:19:05
Roy Hodgson believes that he should be allowed to use the transfer money as he wishes, with the most important thing being results on the field, and it is said that he won't be willing to work under such conditions.

Lets hope he's a man of his word. Fingers crossed

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28 Oct 2010 10:15:02
Do you know what the only sport in the world is were your not aloud to have a beard?

Boxing. . Cushioning isn't it

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28 Oct 2010 10:11:46
Re the two stories breaking in the Daily Mirror on Torres & Reina being ready to quit in January, and Barca's Guardiola to Utd. .

"Guardiola's agent Jose Maria Orobigt says there has been contact from a top European club". .

rumour has it that club is Liverpool. Guardiola has been targeted to team up with former Barcelona employee and current Liverpool Academy coach Rodolfo Borrell. This will be the 'first' big investment by the new owners and the news that keeps Torres & Reina at Anfield. REDALLOVER

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28 Oct 2010 10:09:16
According to the mirror torres and reina want out in Jan and meant to have a secret escape clause in the contract due to no investment in the team.

Personally I don't want them to go but if they want to.go let them we can use money to bring in others

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28 Oct 2010 10:02:59
To this poster;

28 Oct 2010 03:43:52
So its reported that last summer, in exchange for agreeing to stay with the club, both Torres and Reina had buyout clauses inserted into their contracts. While this is somewhat significant for teams like Barcelona, Inter and Chelsea, it is especially important For United as it would allow them to buy either player if they want to, and as long as they meet the clause, Liverpool can do nothing to stop it. After going through last week with Rooney, I do have sympathy for Liverpool supporters if this should happen to them. That being said, it would make sense as both play positions that Utd will be looking to strengthen and have proven themselves in the PL.

What a load of crap. And even if they did have clauses inserted they wouldn't have been anything less than two astronomical fees anyway. Both have long term contracts to run, so Liverpool FC are well in the driving seat unlike the Scum. Torres would NEVER join the Scum in the same way he'd never join R.Madrid, The same with Reina (who has over half a decade left on his contract).
When Ronaldo left, they were all chopsing about the £80M fergie then had to spend, but where did it end up? Get it into your thick heads, the days of Fergie spending like its going out of fashion are over.

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28 Oct 2010 09:59:41
Hey Ed, what is your take on this claim :-
Fernando Torres and Pepe Reina are ready to quit Liverpool in January thanks to secret escape clauses in their contracts. 'Torres was told the new owners - that were not identified to him - were in place and 'days' away from completing the Liverpool takeover.
'It is claimed he was told Roy Hodgson's appointment was a temporary measure and a big name manager was already lined up - armed with a £100 million transfer kitty offered as a 'quick fix' to drag the club back on terms with Manchester United, Chelsea and Manchester City.
'It is understood Liverpool planned to spend £50 million in the summer with a further £50 million available in January for targets no longer chasing Champions League ambitions. Torres and Reina reluctantly agreed to stay at Anfield - but only on condition they each had an escape clause written into their contracts.
'Mirror Sport can reveal the pair are now furious at the subsequent takeover - not directly with new American owner John W Henry or New England Sports Venture - but with the management team they feel misled them over the club's future'.
Do you know if there are secret clauses etc. . has this story any credibility? I for one to not want to loose one of the best goalkeepers & stikers in the world! we should build a team around these. I mean how can you replace them!

red deano {ed's note - load of rubbish mate.}

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28 Oct 2010 09:57:40
Bayern Munich ready to sell Gomes in january.What do you think should we try for him to partner Torres??

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28 Oct 2010 09:53:47
I have heard on good authority that liverpools daniel agger will not play for the club again. His agent has alerted top clubs to his availability with arsenal interested in signing a ball carrying defender for their attacking play. Also have inquired about pepe reina but he has stated his desire to return to spain.
Hope agger has a change of heart as I rate him one of the best cb in the premier league.
Disappointed red 4 life.

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28 Oct 2010 09:48:02
Who do you think are realistic buys in January ed? {ed's note - realistic buys would be a couple of younger players from the MLS, Scandinavian or Russian leagues. They will all be at the end of their seasons and so more likely to sell players.}

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28 Oct 2010 09:36:39
IS IT TRUE TORRES AND REINA ARE LEAVING IN JAN THEY BOTH AVE 50 AND 20 MILLION POUND GET OUT CLAUSES AND NEARLY 5 NEWSPAPERS ARE SAYING THIS

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28 Oct 2010 09:32:29
". .I think us fans should have a say on what players we bring into the club. "

Wow! You seem to be fusing XBox with real life my friend.

That is seriously fcuked up thinking from so many angles. .

You be safe out there. .lol

Frenchy.

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28 Oct 2010 09:27:53
I was reading on some of the betting sites that rikjaard is favourite to replace roy closely followed by oneil and pellegrini.
i for one am not happy how roy has our team playing but rikjaard did not exactly set the turkish league alight with brilliant football in fact its the worst gala has played for years im not saying hes abad manager but lets be honest his barca team basically picked itself and was bought by the men above him he didn't really have much say in the matter. and oneil we all know that he is a good coach but he seems to have a self destruct button an takes it upon himself to start fights with owners which is the last thing we need. now pellegrini without question is a class manager but i think he wouldn't be cheap and he has no proven record in EPL and would demand large transfer funds. im not saying we should keep long ball game roy but maybe an appointment of a lesser known man may be exactly what we need i know one ed likes sean odriscoll also look at what paul lambert has done norwich no money and has taken them from bottom of league one to pushing promotion to the premier league in two seasons. just think ol whisky nose wasnt a household name before he took over manure and neither was shanks when he took over us maybe we need a young hungry manager with something to prove and whos hungry for the game just a thought. REDhunty
what you think ed? {ed's note - that is exactly how I see it mate. We need someone to come in and turn the club around completely, preferably someone who knows how much the club needs to win the league rather than putting European football as main priority.}

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28 Oct 2010 09:17:14
Hi

Ed, i saw an article in the Mirror today, talking about Torress and Reina leaving due to a clause in their contracts which states that they will leave if there isn't significant investment in the playing squad. The article says they were made promisses of investment during the summer, which is why they stayed.

I personally don't think this is true, would like to hear what you have to say ed.

How can the media get away with fabricating stories like this? ?

Thanks
Faizal from S.A {ed's note - the media get away with it because the contracts are secret and no one can disprove them without showing the contract. It is rubbish though, Reina was not amongst the players considering his future at the club, Wenger has already made a number of bids for him, all of which were rejected out of hand. Typical rubbish from a tabloid with no basis in fact.}

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28 Oct 2010 09:17:08
Anyone think we should sign back michael owen?

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28 Oct 2010 09:15:55
The papers have really got it in for us , this morning according to the daily mirror:


Fernando Torres and Pepe Reina are ready to quit Liverpool in January thanks to secret escape clauses in their contracts.

The Spain internationals made the get-out agreements with their Anfield bosses in the summer when they were persuaded to stay despite the departure of Spanish boss Rafa Benitez.

Now Torres and Reina, key to Roy Hodgson's attempts to steer the club away from the relegation zone, want out after promises of major team investment went unfulfilled.

Mirror Sport understands the pair will tell the club in December they wish to leave, with Manchester City keen on £50 million Torres and Manchester United and Arsenal pursuing £20m Reina.

Also it says :

Both were upset at the lack of investment, the club's failure to secure Champions League status and the grim reality of their Premiership title hopes.

Torres was eventually persuaded to remain at Liverpool after three days of talks - during which the delegation described in detail plans laid out specifically by Christian Purslow, the club's chief executive who quit last week following the sale of the club.

Torres was told the new owners - that were not identified to him - were in place and 'days' away from completing the Liverpool takeover.

It is claimed he was told Roy Hodgson's appointment was a temporary measure and a big name manager was already lined up - armed with a £100 million transfer kitty offered as a 'quick fix' to drag the club back on terms with Manchester United, Chelsea and Manchester City.

It is understood Liverpool planned to spend £50 million in the summer with a further £50 million available in January for targets no longer chasing Champions League ambitions.

If he was promised that liverpool would have a wad of cash to spend on players then it seems he's been let down by who ever told him.

What u reckon people? is it more bulls* t paper talk or do u think that this has a little bit of truth in it?

I hope it aint true cause we need to keep these players to get back to the top. plus if we start losing key players , then big name players won't want to join.

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28 Oct 2010 09:12:45
Ed. Was the rykard( excuse spell) rumour confirmed on the 23rd Just been looking at picture on sittings {ed's note - no, nothing was confirmed mate.}

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28 Oct 2010 09:06:46
At a recent extraordinary meeting of the Football Association it was agreed to waive the condition where an applicant for the post of Chief Executive of the FA had to have had no connection with any club for a year.
Step forward Martin Broughton.
You heard it here first.

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28 Oct 2010 08:36:23
You ain't ollowed beard in boxing so who is going to fantacy manger ov the day today. . Ed you should start giving prizes out. . This proves most rumous are peoples dreaming {ed's note - just wait till after the 5th of November, the new Football Manager game is out then!}

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28 Oct 2010 08:24:02
NESV have allocated £30m for transfers in January but on 3 conditions;

1. Any players signed cannot be over 29.
2. Wages cannot be more than £70,000.
3. Players are signed to try and brand Liverpool in other places in the world.

The new owners also want to break the American Market by branding Liverpool out there. They will try and sign Landon Donovan initially on loan, but then permanently if his loan is successful. They see this is an ideal opportunity to make links to American soccer and increase shirt sales.
Another Market they are looking to crack is the Far East. Up step Keisuke Honda. Probably the best Japanese player, and
a quality player at that. Again, would be ideal for shirt sales and branding in Japan. Probably cost around £10m.
Hodgson will still be in charge and using the remaining £20m will target a striker and a winger, Fernando Llorente and Arda Turan are the top targets.

So, Donovan, Honda, Turan and Llorente would fill the remaining 4 places Liverpool have in their 25 man squad.

All this is from an extremely reliable source who was right about Hodgson, Cole, and the takeover.

Woody.

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28 Oct 2010 08:18:42
You can't have a beard in horse racing!

Garybambam
YNWA

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28 Oct 2010 08:18:22
Forlan keen on January move to Liverpool or Spurs the striker revealed he would be interested in moving to either club.It is understood Atletico are reluctant to sell the former Manchester United flop but both Liverpool and Spurs have been made aware of the 17 million-rated striker's availability

we won't get him dosn't fall into the owners remit of value for money {ed's note - good!}

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28 Oct 2010 08:17:43
Now watched ssn and apparently reina and torres have clauses in there contracts what would allow them to leave in jan, now as a supporter i would not be too happy losing reina he is the best stopper in the EPL and prob top 3 in the world but as for torres we must all agree he is hardly the same player of two years ago he seems to spend more time moaning than threatning to score. is there any truth in this ed or is it just paper cr* again as they all love jumping on us? {ed's note - paper talk mate, complete and utter rubbish. Reina never even had any intention or made any suggestions of leaving, why would the club want to change his contract to allow him to do so?}

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28 Oct 2010 08:01:00
I've heard that if Brazil do not win the Copa in the summer then the manager will be sacked, and be replaced with none other than Sam Allardyce, as they love his style of play. They have said they love his [Chris] Samba style!

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28 Oct 2010 07:49:54
Is it me or is Goal.com very "pro" Man United and "against" Liverpool

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28 Oct 2010 07:48:05
Ed, do you know what the only sport in the world is were your not aloud to have a beard? ant {ed's note - without googling it, I wouldn't have a clue mate.}
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Boxing ?

L.Lewis

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28 Oct 2010 06:30:51
Its actually getting really annoying how silly little kids are constantly coming onto this website and posting things like - Sell: Babel £10m, Lucas £6m, Kuyt £8m, N'Gog £4m, Maxi £6m, Poulsen £3m, Spearing £5m . . . .= £42m + £30m from NESV = £72m. Buy: Schweinstager £15m, Mata £15m, Llorente £20m, Contreao £22
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Seriously annoying now. This isn't football manager kids so time to get out of your fantasy worlds and grow up for goodness sake!

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28 Oct 2010 05:20:55
Ed plse can u tell me your views on jarvis of wolves n how much would we be able to get him for? pplse post {ed's note - I doubt Wolves would sell him for less than 15m, but, on current form, it would probably be a good deal. A good, young player who should get better and better, if he is coached correctly, I would definitely have him scouted closely if I was managing the club.}

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28 Oct 2010 04:20:28
Reports from America suggest that Roy Hodgson is now considering his future as Liverpool manager after John W.Henry refused to give him the green light to persue a £15m deal for striker Diego Forlan. Henry has made it clear to Hodgson that he is willing to spend money on the team, but he doesn't believe spending £15m on a 31-year old, who is after £85,000 per week, as a good business deal. Henry has stated that every dollar the club spends will be spend wisely, and questions whether spending £13m on wages over three years on top of a £15m transfer fee (£28m in total) would be a wise business deal especially as the player has little time left at the top level.

Henry believes that spending extravagent money on older players, as well as giving them long-term contracts on big wages means that the club gets no return on what he sees ultimatly as an investment, even if the player performs on the field.

Despite £36m being free per season from debt re-payment, Henry wants to avoid high expenditure long-term on players who don't offer much in return financially. He has pinpointed deals for Robbie Keane and Fernando Morientes as examples. Robbie Keane over a four-year period would have cost liverpool £16.5m on wages, meaning the total cost for Liverpool would have been a massive £36.5m, for a player who many believe had little time left at the top level. Fernando Morientes was another example Henry pointed to, stating that on top of his £6.5m transfer fee, he would have cost the club over £10m in wages had he seen out his contract, costing a total £16.5m for a player who certainly had his best years behind him, and at 29 hadn't many in front of him.

Henry has also expressed dismay at Jamie Carragher signing a new long-term deal as he feels at close to 33, the player is nearing the end of his Liverpool career but is earning a reported £70,000 per week over four years, totaling over £14m should he see out this deal.

This will provoke a mixed response from Liverpool fans. As memories of the Gillette and Hicks reign will come back to the fort, however many will see the this as a sensible way of minimising wasteful spending at the club thus maximising profit.

Henry has pinpointed deals such as the Xabi Alonso deal back in 2004. Alonso cost Liverpool £10m plus £15.6m on wages and was sold for £30m. Henry sees this as good business from the club, added to his top class performances and commerce attained to the club through the player. This would certainly indicate that players linked with Liverpool such as Nuri Sahin, Steven Defour, Gokhan Inler, Ibrahim Afellay, Ashley Young and Juan Mata are deals Henry sees as good business deals for the club and which would be viewed by the fans as talented players.

This doesn't mean that Henry isn't willing to spend big on players. Part of Henry's philosophy is that having a winning team on the field makes the club more marketable and noticed world-wide, which means spending money. He also believes that popular names, with good looks, can increase commerce so long-term could pay off.

Roy Hodgson believes that he should be allowed to use the transfer money as he wishes, with the most important thing being results on the field, and it is said that he won't be willing to work under such conditions.

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28 Oct 2010 03:39:33
We should get Tom huddlestone!

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28 Oct 2010 03:25:50
Ed what are your thoughts on Ismail Koybasi (plays LB). From what I have heard he is mustard with an even hotter left foot! Would he be a good signing for us as I think he would be a realistic signing?

red deano YNWA {ed's note - I have not seen him play to be honest, but we do need a left back!}

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28 Oct 2010 02:38:43
Ed, do you know what the only sport in the world is were your not aloud to have a beard? ant

i always thought you couldnt have a beard in formula 1 untill i seen jenson button's muff-face. .
think about it, the teams spend MILLIONS to shave grams from the car and then jenson comes out with a 6 kilo mop hanging from his mouth. . .
i remember years ago hearing you couldnt have a beard in amateur boxing i don't know if that was correct though, other than that i havnt an effing clue?
fencing or something? lol

db9

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28 Oct 2010 02:25:15
Sell torres to barca for 40mil. plus owner owner 30 mil and adds on from sell of masherano 10 mil.

buy:
dzeko (30 mil plus babel)
honda 16 mil

young 15 mil
turan 14 mil

taiwo 5 mil

bring 1 lassana diarra on loan 1st if possible

reina
johnson agger sketel taiwo
turan gerrard meireles young
honda dzeko

reina set to stay another 1 more season and give a try.

sub : jones, kelly, carra, soto, konchesky, lucas, shevley, maxi, j.cole, jova, kuyt, ngog, pacheco

how? will this work dear ed? is't possible roy goes through this page, so he could see how many millions of liverpool supporters are here that wish liverpool rise again. i wish he would think about the idea ppl posting on this page. pls do rate this, and dear ed, do give comment. btw thanks buddy. {ed's note - that wouldn't be the way I would do it mate. I don't see the point in selling Torres for 40m to buy Dzeko, who would cost roughly the same amount!}

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28 Oct 2010 01:19:33
What u think of roy evens ed? i loved him. good attacking footboll and brought in some of the best youth the reds have ever had. {ed's note - I love Roy Evans, I have so many great memories of watching football under him, such a huge turnaround from the Souness era I had suffered through! I would be happy to see him back at the club in some capacity, Liverpool is just not the same without him.}

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28 Oct 2010 01:16:11
I know what your say in mate, i found it in my dads stuff, don't really want t let it go, cos money ain't comes n goes, that will always be there. know what im sayin. were u from mat if u don't mind me askin? im in west darby liverpool. ant {ed's note - I am originally from Bootle but live down south these days.}

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28 Oct 2010 01:06:48
Just checked that web site then mate. cheers 4 that. {ed's note - you are welcome mate, without pics it would be difficult to sell, with pics you should have no problems, if my grandad was still alive I would have wanted it for him, he worshipped Billy Liddell.}

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28 Oct 2010 01:04:51
It would be nice to see roy evens coaching the kids and having some input in the reserves, . can any one think of any one better? ant

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28 Oct 2010 00:50:13
Its the real deal, wait till ya see the menu its funny as * * .dont know how much its worth tho!/ p.s. horse racing. ant {ed's note - the only thing I can suggest is Liverpool forums, ie RAWK and suchlike. A forum like that would enable you to upload pictures etc. Damn, never even considered jockeys!}

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28 Oct 2010 00:46:51
Why are people stressing over comments about NESV being "smart" with their money? Their ambition is to buy quality youngsters with star potential rather than overpriced experienced players with no re sale value.

Have we learnt nothing from the gunners and united? They rarely break the bank on transfer fees and consistantly breed young quality players who turn into stars.

Forlan is a waste of money for the reasons mentioned above. Honda, Sanchez & Llorente on the other hand would be great signings for now and the future.

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28 Oct 2010 00:46:22
28 Oct 2010 00:11:20
Ed, do you know what the only sport in the world is were your not aloud to have a beard? ant {ed's note - without googling it, I wouldn't have a clue mate.}

Female Figure Skating. {bearded ladies not allowed}

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28 Oct 2010 00:45:48
Forlan keen on January move to Liverpool or Spurs the striker revealed he would be interested in moving to either club.It is understood Atletico are reluctant to sell the former Manchester United flop but both Liverpool and Spurs have been made aware of the 17 million-rated striker's availability.

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28 Oct 2010 00:44:02
Is it true about the spainish players wanting out

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28 Oct 2010 00:42:52
My three signings in January would be: Affelay, Llorrente, and Honda.
First XI for the rest of the season:
GK-Reina
RB-Johnson
CB-Kelly
CB-Agger
LB-Honda
RW-Joe Cole
CM-Gerrard
CM-Meireles
LW-Affelay
St-Llorrente
St-Torres
Then in the summer I would go for Gibbs, Mata, and Banega for a lineup next term to look like this:
Gk-Reina
RB-Johnson
CB-Kelly
CB-Agger
LB-Gibbs
CM-Gerrard
CM-Banega
Rw-Affelay
Lw-Mata
St-Torres
St-Llorrente

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28 Oct 2010 00:41:55
Tranmere join loan race for LFC starlet Victor Palsson.
The 19-year-old is the captain of the reserve team at Anfield but could be about to make a temporary move away to experience League One action.Peterborough have also been linked with a move for Palsson but Tranmere will be hoping the prospect of staying on Merseyside will convince the teenager to join them instead.

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28 Oct 2010 00:40:51
Try again ed. lol darts!? i know its the laziest game ever but, try again mate.lol. p.s. on the artograph, were is the bets place to sell liverpool memorabilia? ant {ed's note - wasn't me who said darts mate, I was thinking it would be something physical like ice hockey or hockey myself.}

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28 Oct 2010 00:39:03
What are we doing with some of our younger strikers like saric, Simon and browuer. If we are never going use them get them out and all the other youngsters that aren't going to make it. What do think ed {ed's note - I do wonder how we can expect to attract the best youngsters when they look and see how little chance they will get to play. At least if they get loan moves they can get a chance to put themselves in the shop window. Though I have to say that I thought we had already got rid of Brouwer, what happened to him?}

Sorry but i was really waiting for somebody to bring up Jordy Brouwer.
He's 22 now and still in the reserves barely getting a game, which is a real shame because he looked like such a good player and weve pretty much gone and ruined his career so as much as i like the lad, i want to see him move on for his own good. What a waste of a great prospect. .

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28 Oct 2010 00:37:24
Yeah your probably right ed, wishful thinking ah well hopefully we'll know more in coming weeks rather then months.

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28 Oct 2010 00:32:43
Llorente tops Reds' wish list.Fernando Llorente's excellent form for both Athletic Bilbao and Spain has sparked interest from a host of clubs, the latest being Liverpool, Manchester United, Barcelona and Real Madrid are three other clubs.Llorente is contracted to his club until the end of the 2012-2013 season and he is valued at 10M-15M.

Would he be the perfect partner for Torres?

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28 Oct 2010 00:31:50
28 Oct 2010 00:11:20
Ed, do you know what the only sport in the world is were your not aloud to have a beard? ant {ed's note - without googling it, I wouldn't have a clue mate.}
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Olympic Muff Diving?

Blair (crude) Mayne YNWA

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28 Oct 2010 00:31:17
Ed what do u think about andrew driver , or lewis holtby great little wingers fast young and wouldn't break the bank {ed's note - not convinced by Driver, I am not sure if he is quite good enough, but Holtby looks the business, only seen him play up front though.}

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28 Oct 2010 00:29:50
I've got a billy liddell autograph here on a menu from 1968 what the queen attended. do you know a good home for it , ed? been on ebay but want it to go to a proper red fan. ant {ed's note - how much are you looking for it? And has it been authenticated?}

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28 Oct 2010 00:29:11
Ed,

Is it me or have we Liverpool fans lost our minds. Lets not delude ourselves, we at present have an average squad, being managed by Mr. Average Woy.

He bought Poulsen & then proceeded to loan Juve Aqualani, after a full pre-season of training. Woy also bought Konchesky from Fulham (who went out and bought one of the top five LB's of the World Cup) & gave them a couple of promising youngsters as well.

We lost to a "formidable Northampton team".

We apparently played some of our best football this season, during the 2nd half against Everton. Now forgive me but that is at best an untruth!

We do not see much of Agger, who is our BEST defender (apparently injured but. .).

Then we have the "bouncers" Gerrard & Carragher. One, is the most indisciplined midfielder of this era, the other would not have got into any of Shankly's, Paisley's, Fagan's or Dalglish's teams, yet they always has something to say.

I was watching LFC Tv tonight, talking about Kuyt's imminent return from injury as if it were the second coming of the good Lord!

To compound it all, things are so bad, fans are singing the virtues of Spearing. I don't care if he's a local lad, he's not good enough (Smith, Thommo, Terry Mac, Robbie were). He not even better than Damien Plessis (another we've lost).

I hope & pray we get another manager (Hiddink, Pellegrini or Rykaard will do), I just want to see some quality football. I definitely do not want to hear about the likes of Carlton Cole, Chris Brunt or Luke Young.

This Liverpool Football Club - Number three on the list of European/ Champion's League winners, not some yo-yo club who are happy to be in the Premiership.

The fact that this is our worst start to a season since the fifties, should be ringing a few alarm bells!

Oh for the days of Barnes, Beardsley, Houghton, Hansen, Whelan etc, etc. .

What a fall from grace, we are mediocre at best and it's enough to make a grown man cry! !

Before anyone ask, I'm not some dodgy Man Utd fan. I'm just a sad LFC fan wanting to see my team play some good football and not concern themselves with the opposition, as though they were Brazil 1970!

Princey

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28 Oct 2010 00:27:04
Hodgson to use £30m kitty for Young he feels it is vital to add the homegrown ingredient to his crop of under-achievers, and will not be put off by Young's £14m price tag.

Hodgson also still has West Ham's Carlton Cole earmarked as a potential signing despite missing out on him during the summer.The forward is struggling to fit into Avram Grant's plans and Hodgson believes he would add an extra dimension to his side, much like Bobby Zamora's role for him at Fulham.

Steven Defour has been a 'long term target' for Liverpool Valued at £12million by Standard, a move by Liverpool could be on.

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28 Oct 2010 00:25:37
PS. That's not true about te national athem. {ed's note - I didn't know Alonso was a Liverpool fan, I have completely changed my view of who I want to win the F1 title now! I always hated him in the past, but he has just shot up in my estimation. Sorry Blair no news at the moment, I doubt anything will happen until the board is appointed, otherwise who would pick the new man?}
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Apology's about Alonso being an LFC fan as if just googled it to confirm what i said. But they say he's a Real Madrid fan. But i seen an interview with BBC just after he had the spat with Hamilton and went to Renault. And said "People think i hate England and Britain but how could i if i support Liverpool Football Club"

I think i'm getting the Roy Hodgeson syndrome and losing touch with reality.

Back to reality hopefully. ED do you not think that the searching for a new manager would not have started already? I don't see how the new board would know much about Pellegrini, Riijkard etc and would probably take advice from Dalglish, Ayre and maybe Brougton?

Blair Mayne YNWA {ed's note - I believe Ayre is going to be on the new board anyway isn't he? I do think feelers would already be out, it would be stupid not to be prepared in case things get worse and the change has to be made before the board can be sorted.}

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28 Oct 2010 00:24:02
Thats a good offer i think we should offer that, aguero is worth 30-35mill. . babel isn't working in the prem, neither is lucas, , , maybe they r suited to the la liga a slower pace. .and they r worth bout 6mill each so theres 12mill on top of 20-23 so that's 32-35mill yeah would work. .

behave, we are already 4 men short of a full squad and you think it wise to trade 2 players plus 20m (that would easily buy us a top quality striker alone) for 1 man? granted, aguero is undoubtedly 1 of the best young players around, but there is no guarantee he will perform in epl, another torres situation, out half the season with injury while sitting on 100k a week. not saying that will happen, but would you take that risk? we should not let any players leave in jan, the only way a team performs is if they play together for a few seasons, with a decent run of games together. man ure and chelsea. .they generally don't sell many players, if any, in a transfer window, and where are they every year come may? think about it

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28 Oct 2010 00:23:06
I think so and after a little bit of research I found his contract ends 30 June, 2011. So could be lining him up for next summer possibly if that's allowed? or could try in january when we have a full board, his contracts running down etc. {ed's note - probably just wishful thinking, but I hope so!}

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28 Oct 2010 00:22:28
I've got a billy liddell autograph here on a menu from 1968 what the queen attended. do you know a good home, ed? ant {ed's note - mine is good lol.}

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28 Oct 2010 00:21:10
28 Oct 2010 00:11:20
Ed, do you know what the only sport in the world is were your not aloud to have a beard? ant {ed's note - without googling it, I wouldn't have a clue mate.}

Darts?
DA

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28 Oct 2010 00:18:02
I couldn't really see it either but I have no idea how bad his relationship is with there president, would he try and force him out? also probably alot of compensation would be involved. {ed's note - I am not sure about compo, isn't he on a one year rolling contract?}

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28 Oct 2010 00:12:42
I never considered him either but it does make sense, I'd imagine he is just on the shorlist though. I would love him as our manager and would definately trust NESV if they appointed him. But as you say ed we don't have a full board to do the appointing :-( {ed's note - doesn't mean they couldn't get him ready for the board to ratify later though. I really can't see him leaving until the end of the season if it was him.}

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28 Oct 2010 00:11:20
Ed, do you know what the only sport in the world is were your not aloud to have a beard? ant {ed's note - without googling it, I wouldn't have a clue mate.}

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27 Oct 2010 23:54:42
Fact! ant scouse n proud. ant

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27 Oct 2010 23:54:34
The agent of Josep Guardiola (the manager of Barcelona) claims a top european club have been enquiring about him suspected to be united to replace fergie but I think this could be us.

Apparently he has a 'strained' relationship with the new president so him moving would not be impossible and seem like a manger NESV migh consider being young so he can be here for the long haul etc.

What do you think ed? {ed's note - I always thought it would be more likely to be Arsenal when Wenger moved upstairs. Everyone knows that Pep is not happy, if we got him I would be delighted, he is one I just never even considered.}

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27 Oct 2010 23:54:14
27 Oct 2010 23:39:51
Did you know that the Spanish changed their national anthem cos of seeing liverpool away supporters traveling to away games in Spain. they love us that much. what ya think? believe or don't believe? what ya think ed? anthony {ed's note - I have never heard that mate, I do know there is a club in Spain that has as their anthem 'we are going to play Liverpool in the European Cup' because we are so admired there. My parents live in Spain and they tell me everyone knows Liverpool there, but I really can't see them changing a national anthem because of it.}

If I remember correctly, a senior spanish olympic official, after witnessing YNWA at Anfield, decided the Spanish national anthem needed words (it currently has none). They were pushing to host the olympics at the time, and wanted any Spanish gold medals to be celebrated properly. The idea was dropped a little while later.

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