Liverpool Rumours Archive October 23 2010

 

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23 Oct 2010 23:05:54
23 Oct 2010 17:11:40Liverpool RumoursLiverpool should get rid of gerrard and torres, start fresh with a new manager and bring in class prem players not like pouslen and konceskey(spelling). if this happens we will defo climb the table.

are you for real mate? to sell gerrard and torres in the same window would be catastrophic. at the moment, the team is built around them both, we need to keep them and reshape the 11 into a single solid unit instead of this fragile group of people being carried by 2 'sick and tired of it all' superstars. then maybe could we thing of replacing them, but not right now. do you want us to go down? bluenose incognito i think

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23 Oct 2010 23:03:16
I no its a piss take with the pic but some nugget has started the rumour about the marriott hotel but how serious can u be when its not even a marriott, its now a crown plaza and has been for a while!

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23 Oct 2010 23:00:38
Just tried to place a bet on next manager to leave(on Roy of course), only to find there isn't a single bookie who will take my money. They have closed the book, the bookies obviously feel theres no money to be made on it anymore. I'm guessing the only way they'll open it up again is if we win 3 on the bounce.

nuff said really.

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23 Oct 2010 23:00:15
Roys last match is next week against Chelsea
he will not be sacked he will resign he has a gentlemans agreement to walk away, this will play out in the tabloids over the next week. With three top managers vying for roys job by the time of the game.
News from a player at the club

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23 Oct 2010 22:52:31
RE:
How did we miss out on players like Van Der Vaart, Sneijder & Robben in the last few years when Real Madrid were getting rid of them for cheap? It's criminal.
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We must look to pick up the next batch of Gago, Lass & Drenthe in January/ Summer. Not quite as good as the previous 3, but still very handy players of much higher ability than our current crop.

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23 Oct 2010 22:44:04
Ok, just to pull in the pro and anti Roy Hodgson peole together.

Lets say we give Roy until January to turn things around, lets be generous. .

So Roy stays until January. . . . at the moment from the Arsenal game at Anfield (where actually we should have won), we appear to have got progressively worse as a team, the results have got worse, the tactic and the team selection have. . . .you guessed it got worse.
The negativity in after match interviews has got worse. Lets give him until the january transfer window where he can spend the money on 2 worse players than we let go on loan(Poulsen and Konchesky) and let a good player(Aquilani) and an upcoming player(Insua) go out on loan with a view to not coming back. . . . Lets back Roy because he inherited a weak squad. . .which has now got weaker because of HIM.

So to anybody who wants roy to stay until January, just remember. . WE AREN'T IMPROVING AND HE HAS WEAKENED THE SQUAD. All those 'pro' Hodgson people just remember that with us being in the bottom 3 and NOT IMPROVING. .IN EIGHT GAMES, we are only going to be relegated. YES, I WILL BACK THE MANAGER TILL JANUARY. But bearing in mind the above FACTS, THEN WHY SHOULD I BACK HIM?.

BUT I WILL BACK HIM. . .JUST WHY THOUGH?

If you would like to comment on WHY i should back him until January, feel free to tell me WHY?

ed, be grateful for your thoughts on any of the above.

YNWA

JFT96 {ed's note - there is no point giving him until January when he is on borrowed time, things will just get worse.}

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23 Oct 2010 22:02:39
23 Oct 2010 17:02:15
Any good links to watch the matches pleases

ATDHE.net

about 3 year too late we should have gone for defour when he dominated us from midfield for Liege they should have won that tie he was awsome from box to box wasnt he the youngest belgian capt buy him now he will be injury free for 2011

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23 Oct 2010 21:49:07
Pic of Frank at the Marriot has been uploaded, just awaiting clearance from the ed/ ED/ Editor

. . . . .ed confirm lad confirm. my phone bill sky high if you CONFIRM CONFIRM CONFIRM

{Editor's Note: Certainly looks genuine to me. You should check it out youself.}

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where is the pic? can we see it?

{Editor's Note: try the dodgy sightings area}

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23 Oct 2010 21:48:12
Hello ed, first time post on this site. am sick of reading all the negative stuff on here we all know the team is playin carp and if roy doesn't find a win soon he could be out the door, but its time to get behind the team support them starting tomorrow real liverpool fans turn up at anfield and sing your hearts out, moaners don't turn up scousers rule and don't you forget it. upper centenary stand.

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23 Oct 2010 21:44:08
Ed I want you to be honest. .When you or A N Other Ed put that Roy would be gone after Thursday, was it that you received the infamous text before everyone else, and went on a hunch? SMF

{Editor's Note: (1) I didn't say it of course; (2) I have no idea about any text message.}

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23 Oct 2010 21:42:09
23 Oct 2010 21:29:15
Pic of Frank at the Marriot has been uploaded, just awaiting clearance from the ed/ ED/ Editor

. . . . .ed confirm lad confirm. my phone bill sky high if you CONFIRM CONFIRM CONFIRM

{Editor's Note: Certainly looks genuine to me. You should check it out youself.}

hi there, first time for me, were do i get to see this picture of frank.
ps. great site, love peoples opinions and the banter

{Editor's Note: Over to the left there is a button "Liverpool Sightings" - Click on that and follow the "Dodgy Sightings" link.}

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23 Oct 2010 21:41:36
Never mind the chop. that's the first time ive seen the Marriot. Not impressed at all , looks like GROT from Reggie Perrin. SMF

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23 Oct 2010 21:35:57
To anyone who thinks NESV havent much money, then you should have listened to Chris Eavans on friday. he said a friend of his knew one of the people involved in NESV and he and some others were Billionaires. .SMF

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23 Oct 2010 21:34:02
Have to say I am pissing myself here lol, it is the s* ttest chop ever, and I did it

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23 Oct 2010 21:32:05
Macca i have always thought your notes were genuine. .I believe in what you have said.
The board are presuming that chelski will turn us over, so youre not going to install a new manager who is going to take a hidng in his first game. a few years ago Everton ousted Mike Walker who I thought wasnt that bad but the board wanted him out, they did it before the derby(liverpool) game, and installed Joe Royal, because if walker had have beat the reds they couldnt have sacked him. .
In macca we trust
ps.you betta be right SMF

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23 Oct 2010 21:29:15
Pic of Frank at the Marriot has been uploaded, just awaiting clearance from the ed/ ED/ Editor

. . . . .ed confirm lad confirm. my phone bill sky high if you CONFIRM CONFIRM CONFIRM

{Editor's Note: Certainly looks genuine to me. You should check it out youself.}

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23 Oct 2010 21:27:57
23 Oct 2010 21:13:32
Pic of Frank at the Marriot has been uploaded, just awaiting clearance from the ed/ ED/ Editor

[[. is this true ed . has he sent a picture? ?

harry5:) {ed's note - possibly the worst chop of all time mate.}

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23 Oct 2010 21:25:16
Alright ed have you recieved this so called pic of frank r {ed's note - it is in the dodgy sightings page mate.}

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23 Oct 2010 21:20:38
Does anyone else think that if step back and look at the bigger picture, that you actually trace our lack of ambition back to a single moment about 7 or so years ago when we decided that Nicolas Anelka did not fit the mould of what we were looking for as regards a Liverpool player? Ed, I would be interested in your thoughts on this too. .
Mal {ed's note - I think it was the day Moores bottled it and pushed Roy Evans out the door by appointing Houllier. We haven't played with any attacking ambition since then.}

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23 Oct 2010 21:20:09
What the? The editor has placed into the dodgy sightings page? No fair!

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23 Oct 2010 21:17:30
Reina

Kelly Carra Skrtel Konchesky


Meireles Gerrard

Cole
Babel Jovanovic

Torres

Anfield to refind its voice, and the road to recovery begins tomorrow

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23 Oct 2010 21:14:57
Ivf heard today that torres will not play under manager again. if these rumers are right plus the one going to stay staying till jan. i dread to think just were are the goals going to come from . and who will be next to follow torres. i know ppl are calling jamie to be on bench, but we need him more than any other at min to stedy and carm the field play.

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23 Oct 2010 21:13:32
Pic of Frank at the Marriot has been uploaded, just awaiting clearance from the ed/ ED/ Editor

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23 Oct 2010 21:09:57
Line up liverpool vs blackburn: Reina carrager kyriakos skrtel aurelio miereles poulsen babel cole gerrard torres: subs jones maxi konchesky jovanovic kelly shelvey pacheco.

Hope not, hope your wrong. poulsen and Babel no way. . Jovanovic to start instead of Babel and Shelvey instead of Poulsen and we will win 3-1 with Goals from Jovanovic, Torres 2.

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23 Oct 2010 21:06:34
Frank r in liverpool. more like franky in hollywood.if you wanna cum just do it, what a load ov crap.
i wish it was true. picture?? ?? ?? and you will make my night.

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23 Oct 2010 20:39:30
The blame for our position is 50 - 50 between Roy and the Players. It pains me to watch the boring, negative football we have been playing for some time now, even under Rafas last months.

Maxi is terrible, poulsen too. Jovanovic looked ok pre-season but now seems to have sunk with the rest of the teams poor morale.

I would prefer to see some playes like Amoo or Eccleston deployed out wide with Babel each game in the hope that they may actually use their pace and attack the full back.

Every ball we play seems to be backwards or at best sideways. We have no pace at all in our squad - including Torres. Yes, he has been injured, but he looks so deflated with life at LFC at the moment.

I would prefer now to buy wisely. By this I mean, spend a lot of money on proven players rather than try to fix all of our problems in one or 2 windows. The 4 or 5 players we seem to buy each summer, always seem to be shipped out within 12 months.

Someone commented on thinking that Everton would beat us last week. I see all teams beating us until something radical happens. Look at Blackpool, why would you write them off against us? DJ Campbell has bags of pace and Varney and Adam are good players.

BUY WIDTH, BUY PACE AND BUY PROVEN QUALITY THATS NOT SHIPPED OUT WITHIN 12 MONTHS!

It does beg the question who our scouts are to think Voronin, Dossena, Itandje, Poulsen, Ngog and co are any good.

Believe if you feel my pain and agree.

* * WELSH KOPITE * *

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23 Oct 2010 20:29:16
Why do people keep saying we should get wright-phillips!?! his touch is temperamental, as is his final delivery, his dribbling and pretty much everything else in his game. there is a reason he can't get a regular place in at man city (who would definitely charge us way more than he is worth!). He would be nothing more for us than another big disappointment. Would any of you ed's be happy with him?

Besides, it's all well and good saying we should buy him, him and him but until we have a manager that plays a suitable system we won't be able to

a) attract players of the quality required, or
b) make the most of any quality players we have.

Redfish

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23 Oct 2010 20:15:17
Just heard from a reliable source that roy will keep his job till january, where the nesv and kenny will evaluate the job he has done and the take into the consideration the squad he inherited!

lfc4life

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erkkkk. . if it is so, at what position we'll be on the table by then? 17th? 18th? 19th? T_T

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23 Oct 2010 20:15:03
To the person saying frank is at the Marriott hotel on liverpool.can you send the. Pic. Also ed why don't you or one of the other eds.phone up.the hotel and see if ya can find out

{Editor's Note: Why don't you call if you are so interested?}

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23 Oct 2010 19:58:39
Look guys i told u frank rijkaard will be our manager and he has arrived in liverpool probably he is at marriot. My sources have told me he'll be announced as our manager by wednesday. He'll attend the match tomorrow like i said on thursday, Roy will bid good-bye to fans tom. regardless of the result.
Macca, i highly doubt your sources man coz i've my friend tom who is a close mate to ian ayre as well and they never thought of giving Roy more games to sort it out. It was just that the board was busy installing new board members.

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23 Oct 2010 19:56:16
Just heard from a reliable source that roy will keep his job till january, where the nesv and kenny will evaluate the job he has done and the take into the consideration the squad he inherited!

lfc4life

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23 Oct 2010 19:44:05
Hey ed, r we still scouting/ interested in Sylvain Marveaux?Seems like an ok winger but would he survive the PL?Could turn out to be a Mark Gonzalez. ur view?

{Editor's Note: Sylvain Marveaux would make an excellent addition as I have said previously. He is out of contract in the summer so Rennes would be willing to sell him in January. But there will be interest from elsewhere.}

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23 Oct 2010 19:41:37
All this s* t about people sayin sell gerrard and torres to more forward, we need to keep are big players if we are to move forward and to atracted more big players. the players roy should look at,
Bent, swp, mata, cahill and hendrsen(spelling)

Any1 agree.

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23 Oct 2010 19:40:00
I am in town at the marriot. And I hav just
Had my picture taken with Frank Rijkaard.
Can i post picture on here? I dint no.
Anyway He is our new manager he will be
attending the game tomorrow. Get in! !

{Editor's Note: You may post it to the sightings area.}

Can u post this pic to the sightings area please mate?
otherwise this story has no credibility whatsoever. .

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23 Oct 2010 19:27:40
23 Oct 2010 18:47:36
I am in town at the marriot. And I hav just
Had my picture taken with Frank Rijkaard.
Can i post picture on here? I dint no.
Anyway He is our new manager he will be
attending the game tomorrow. Get in! !

{Editor's Note: You may post it to the sightings area.}

i'm trying to think of the most diplomatic response to this. Hmmm, i think i'll go with. . boll* *s!

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23 Oct 2010 19:25:07
To the person who said he had his pic taken with Frank Rijkaard, can u post it to the sightings area?

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23 Oct 2010 19:22:02
Ed, how confident are u that we will go after Guillaume Hoarau?Apparently we have scouted him on several occasions.Plus could u tell us a bit about the player and how u feel he could improve us?

GTH

{Editor's Note: He is young, of interest to Liverpool, Aston Villa and a couple of clubs in Germany. Good touch for a big guy and would love the move.}

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23 Oct 2010 19:21:55
Hodgson has got to go, Signs Poulsen who couldnt get a game at Juve and sends Aquilani the opposite direction, Aquilani at least showed some promise. Babel to go as well he's terrible (Doesnt look interested in football) let him DJ somewhere else, Wingers are a priorty - Torres will score goals if he gets good service (Payet from Saint Etienne looks class), Any truth to the rumours that all the unrest with the team is due to Sammy Lee?

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23 Oct 2010 18:54:17
People don't realize that we are using babel incorrectly if we fit him into a 4-3-3 formation he will perform he is no that bad look at lucus and maxi rubbish"

ya you expect babel to make an impact when he is not even given regular playing time look at lucus he gets many more games so don't expect someone to find there for in 90 mins

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23 Oct 2010 18:47:36
I am in town at the marriot. And I hav just
Had my picture taken with Frank Rijkaard.
Can i post picture on here?? I dint no.
Anyway He is our new manager he will be
attending the game tomorrow. Get in! !

{Editor's Note: You may post it to the sightings area.}

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23 Oct 2010 18:40:22
'Editor's Note: I think you may be disappointed in January'
What do you mean by this? I think three new players is a realistic number, and the players i've put, i think we have got a chance of getting

{Editor's Note: Out of the player's that you listed I would suggest that only two could be available to Liverpool in January, Honda and Afellay. Neither of these help out with the striking problem. Hoarau seems a much more likely option.}

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23 Oct 2010 18:37:54
Ed why do you constantly assume that the new owners arent going to spend cash on the team, for them to do what the do and make teams profitable the need the best team winning on all fronts. So you constantly saying the won't spend in the region of 50 mllion in summer seems werid, how do you expect our famous team to get to the top again. Expect money to be spent and a to think there will be atlest 40-50 million in the transfer kitty. What kind of kitty do you think a top manager is going want to take over at liverpool. Love the forum bye the way just don't understand why you don't see lots of money beeing spent maybe not in citys stlye but we wouldn't want that for our great club

You'll never walk alone

{Editor's Note: I have not said at any time that the owners will not spend money. What I have said is that:
- They will not assign a £50M "transfer kitty". Transfer kitties are a figment of the fans imagination.
- The manager will broadly be aware of what money may be available to spend - but no more than that.
- The manager/coach will need to justify any proposed expenditure by proposing the players he wants to the board/responsible person. If agreed, then an approach will be made to the player's club and agent.
- The board/responsible person will be looking for players who can improve the team at the right price.

The club will be fiscally responsible from this point forward, and that is the way it should be. Do not expect £50M plus sales in January.}

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23 Oct 2010 18:36:13
23 Oct 2010 18:32:19
No Johnson for blackburn game

does this mean we can look forward to carragher charging down the wing!?!

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23 Oct 2010 18:32:19
No Johnson for blackburn game

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23 Oct 2010 18:28:05
Not a rumour but does anyone agree Alan smith is worth considering? I know he's ex Leeds and manure but has several good points

Has pride passion drive and talent in abundance

Can play in any central midfield role

Has played for England as a striker and who would be better at holding the ball up and playing in Torres or waiting for the midfield to join

He would not be expensive

In 18 months would be a great squad player and he would allow us to sell poulsen and Lucas to fund more attacking players

Plus he's said to be a famy lad and this would put him a little trip down the 62

Any support?

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23 Oct 2010 18:27:07
Just thought i'd throw this one in. . .

Frank Rijkaard as manager and King Kenny as his number two?

could be good. . .

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23 Oct 2010 18:24:17
Kenny Dalglish or Frank Rijkaard to be our new manager, there the only ones, that are available, realistic and can put us on track to winning the prem.
For now play Johnson on the wing with Kelly at rightback. This will give Kelly experience and Johnson will help him defend, and it will add width to the team.
Give Lucas a chance! When he plays in a more attacking role he does well ie, Benfica-Europa League. He should have played against Napoli, where Shelvey was playing and Shelvey should have played where Poulsen was, giving him more time to pick out his passes.
Finally in January we should sign; Honda/ llorente, Affelay/ Hazard and Taiwo (and have a look at Santon, depending on how Kelly is doing)
What do you think ED and everybody else? I would appreciate feedback

{Editor's Note: I think you may be disappointed in January.}

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23 Oct 2010 18:21:48
A friend of mine rang me a few hours ago and said frank rijkaard is staying in the same hotel as him in town (liverpool). This is just what he said so don't shoot the messenger lol.

DanLFC

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23 Oct 2010 18:16:26
How many editors run this site? Might be a good idea to number yourself so we know who's got the best contacts & who are the tea boys. last bit is a joke so don't get your knickers in a twist.
Just one more point, not sure if you can fix this, but if you refresh site you can keep clicking on believe or unblieve as many times as you want. Member login an option?
Great site, keep up the good work.

{Editor's Note: There are a few editors and each has their own unique way of signing in - mine being "Editor's Note:", another being "ed's note -" etc.. These are as good as numbering or any other methodology. Your proposal is fine but someone needs to keep score - I trust you to do this. As for the refreshing believable/unbelievable issue, you really should have something better to do with your time. As an example, voting "Believable" to "Would you like a new manager?" does not mean that Roy will not see his three year contract out. There is a "member's only" area already, but I don't think it is what you are looking for, and all sorts of other great stuff.}

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23 Oct 2010 18:06:16
Frank Rijkaard may well 'fancy' the Ajax job but if you look at the dutch league Martin Jol is in no danger of losing his job anytime soon mate. Secondly
to say the job is between MON an Roy is pure fantasy. . . .Michael Laudrup, Ronald Koeman, Marco Van Basten, Manuel Pelligrini. . . . . all of which would do a better job than MON or Roy and are for the most part, UNEMPLOYED! !. Please gety your facts right before writing stuff like this. P.S Kenny hasn't managed since Newcastle 10 years ago and would be as out of touch as Roy. Why do u think Martin Broughton wouldn't give him the job. Roy was seen as a SAFE bet to steady the ship while we found new owners and if we aren't in the top half of the table come December(only 5 weeks away). .he will be gone. He might not even get that much time!

Disagree!
Who out of the managers you have named has EPL experience?
How many years managment experience did Dalglish have before being appointed Liverpool boss? So what the flip has being out the game 10years got anything to do with it. Out of touch! How? The guy is in charge of accademy plus you throw him a question about any player and he'll tell you everything about him.
Dalglish is clue'd up. He is fergusons nemises and I believe can get us challenging again.

None of them. . .But nor did Houllier or Benitez and they have both done a better job than Dalglish or Hodgson would have done. . . . On the other hand Roy Hodgson has a fair few seasons of premiership experience and look whats happened to him!.
Premiership experience doesn't mean ANYTHING.
Whats important is how relevant your ideas are today. .which is why Roy isn't cutting it, and Kenny the legend that he is, never will. Football is progressive mate, we wouldn't have the best league in the world if it wasn't for the Wengers, Benitez, mourinhos of this world.(NEITHER OF WHICH AS U PUT IT HAD PREMIERSHIP EXPERIENCE BEFORE ARSENAL, LIVERPOOL AND CHELSEA RESPECTIVELY). We'd still be playing the way Big Sam does. King Kenny is exactly where he should be tapping up bright young stars for the future.

So anyway, what actually was your point?

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23 Oct 2010 17:55:31
Hope the ed who was so sure roy was goin in the very near future has some more info for us soon, i can't see a replacement come in til a new ceo is appointed myself hence the agent of pelligrini comments the other day when he admitted there had been contact but was difficult due to the uncertainty of who was running the club.so new ceo - new manager - new start

kopman

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23 Oct 2010 17:49:41
Beginning to think it is probably unlikely Roy will be replaced this week.

Acknowledged today that two senior officials of New England Sports Ventures have been appointed as members of the Liverpool board
David Ginsberg, one of NESV's two vice-chairmen, and investor Michael Gordon have been appointed as club directors.

Unless they are taking consultation from the 'Home Team' It would be unlikely they will walk into the boardroom on monday morning and make such a sweeping change unless of course Broughton has already made the decision and NESV just ratify it.

The next thought might be that NESV question whether to take Broughton advice seeing as he made such a fine appointment in Roy

Either way I think Roy will be shown the door just maybe not as soon as some of us would like.

Sven

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23 Oct 2010 17:41:14
Ed, any idea who the new ceo will be? ive been seeing brian barwick at the games recently, do you think this is a coincidence. david dein seems a good choice, after overseeing arsenals most successful period and overseeing the development of the emirates.

{Editor's Note: I am afraid I don't have any idea at all - but another Ed may be able to chip in with a suggestion later on.}

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23 Oct 2010 17:39:53
"23 Oct 2010 17:14:57
People don't realize that we are using babel incorrectly if we fit him into a 4-3-3 formation he will perform he is no that bad look at lucus and maxi rubbish"

Listen look at lucus on the field he looks lost where as babel when he comes on he got pace the ability to dribble defenders and a shot like remember when he scored against lyon last year so don't even compare him to lucus because the only reason lucus was played last year was cause rafa liked him i bet you most fans would let lucus go for free"

Babel has a first touch like he's in diving boots and his dribbling abilities involve mainly passing the ball to the nearest defender. if he can't make an impact against a clearly timid Napoli defence that even Kelly strode past then he stands little chance of improving. His supposed pace is only apparent when running to his phone to tweet someone, if the ball happens to be at his feet he'll fall over it and sigh. One wonder goal doesn't make you a good player (if we're comparing, then you'll already be aware of a similarly decent strike by Lucas in Europe last year as well). If you remember Babel's goal so vividly, i assume you remember what he did with the freekick he took from a decent position mere moments after his goal? Shanked into oblivion, troubling the corner flag more than the goalkeeper. Lucas was followed by many clubs when at Gremio and was moved out of position by Benitez into a role completely alien to him. He may be average, but at least he doesn't give up on balls played more than three yards from him as Babel does. Babel has some untapped ability i'll grant you, but he is incredibly lazy which is unforgivable. Neither are good enough for Liverpool, but i'd take the player putting in effort any day of the week.

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23 Oct 2010 17:37:33
Frank Rijkaard may well 'fancy' the Ajax job but if you look at the dutch league Martin Jol is in no danger of losing his job anytime soon mate. Secondly
to say the job is between MON an Roy is pure fantasy. . . .Michael Laudrup, Ronald Koeman, Marco Van Basten, Manuel Pelligrini. . . . . all of which would do a better job than MON or Roy and are for the most part, UNEMPLOYED! !. Please gety your facts right before writing stuff like this. P.S Kenny hasn't managed since Newcastle 10 years ago and would be as out of touch as Roy. Why do u think Martin Broughton wouldn't give him the job. Roy was seen as a SAFE bet to steady the ship while we found new owners and if we aren't in the top half of the table come December(only 5 weeks away). .he will be gone. He might not even get that much time!

Disagree!
Who out of the managers you have named has EPL experience?
How many years managment experience did Dalglish have before being appointed Liverpool boss? So what the flip has being out the game 10years got anything to do with it. Out of touch! How? The guy is in charge of accademy plus you throw him a question about any player and he'll tell you everything about him.
Dalglish is clue'd up. He is fergusons nemises and I believe can get us challenging again.

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23 Oct 2010 17:37:08
If the players say they don't like Roy, his training or his tactics, surely he has to go. He hasn't got a single good result and the players are unhappy, why would we keep him?
Everyday he stays at the club he's doing more damage and eventually we're going to lose our star players and replace them with mediocre players. Roy doesn't play good football, doesn't get good results, can't motivate the players and constantly says the wrong things to the media.
An honourable man would step down if the fans wanted him out that bad, I have a feeling he's hanging on for his severance package.

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23 Oct 2010 17:36:23
Alrite ed I've had enough of Roy he's to nice he needs some walls for a start why did he not say to the press o clang give a s*t if utd are after Torres he's goin nowhere could you imagine rednose saying its inevitable lfc will be in for roony no there's no chance he wld of just told them to h off that's were he's gone wrong from day. Get rid of this stupid clown before it gets any worse he makes my blood boil. Print this

{Editor's Note: Why do you care quite so much about how the manager responds to loaded questions from the press and the taunting of other managers? I really don't appreciate you writing "print this" at the end of the message either.}

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23 Oct 2010 17:27:26
"Liverpool are now interested in signing Valta Birsa, they have joined clubs such as Blackpool and Wigan, obviously he's the next worlds best player :( "

Well said - this has been happening too long already. We target (and buy) mediocre players (with the exception of some obvious names) instead of bringing BIG names to a big club. I hope Roy doesn't waste more money by signing players who don't IMPROVE the squad SIGNIFICANTLY. Hopefully the board and new owners can help to sort this out.

OzFan

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23 Oct 2010 17:20:11
Rijkaard will go back to Holland He's after Ajax job. Hiddink wouldn't come yet either. That leaves Hodgson to continue or Dalglish or Oneil. The board won't want another manager who has fans power like raffa had so that rules out Dalglish. Between O'neil and Hodgson. . Well that's a coin toss who's better.
I guess Hodgson is staying for atleast one whole season.
My personal opinion is give the job to Dalglish as he is a winner, would keep our best players and challenge the league. His record doesn't need me to beef it up for him. The guy's a winner


Frank Rijkaard may well 'fancy' the Ajax job but if you look at the dutch league Martin Jol is in no danger of losing his job anytime soon mate. Secondly
to say the job is between MON an Roy is pure fantasy. . . .Michael Laudrup, Ronald Koeman, Marco Van Basten, Manuel Pelligrini. . . . . all of which would do a better job than MON or Roy and are for the most part, UNEMPLOYED! !. Please gety your facts right before writing stuff like this. P.S Kenny hasn't managed since Newcastle 10 years ago and would be as out of touch as Roy. Why do u think Martin Broughton wouldn't give him the job. Roy was seen as a SAFE bet to steady the ship while we found new owners and if we aren't in the top half of the table come December(only 5 weeks away). .he will be gone. He might not even get that much time!

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23 Oct 2010 17:19:34
About four months ago i had a random dream that our new owners would be American and it came true. At the time i thought nothing of it and that the new owners would be some rich arab. Last night i had another random one and it was that we got Messi. Now that's a dream i wish comes true!. Imagine that if we got him. Does anyone know his contract details with barca and what his wage bill would be?. Who knows if this Frank "the camel" Rikjard rumour comes true he may very well be the man to tempt a player like messi to Anfield.

He's Barcelona through and through. No chance of playing for us.
Nice dream though

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23 Oct 2010 17:17:08
One of the Editors said earlier that one player seems to be unhappy and that we will let him go. Is this payer Torres?

{Editor's Note: I would let go of any player who does not want to play for the club. At present Torres' head seems elsewhere. If he can't get it together then the club need to look for another solution before he becomes a disruptive influence. And I don't really care that he may or may not have been let down by past promises, if he is not happy then ship him out.}

I agree with what you have said. However we cannot say exactly why Torres is unhappy, if it is his inability to recover his form that is frustrating him then surely "ship him out" cannot be the answer. If this is the case then should the club not do everything they can to bring back his confidence. I think we all need to be patient just as Torres has been patient with the club.

Although as you said before if he is doing a Rooney and throwing his toys then there is no time for that and he should be moved on.
I would have thought Torres to have a bit more class than that glorified chav though.

{Editor's Note: You are right of course, if it is simply frustration about his form then fine - but it is more than a few games now. I fear a festering unhappiness.}

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23 Oct 2010 17:14:57
People don't realize that we are using babel incorrectly if we fit him into a 4-3-3 formation he will perform he is no that bad look at lucus and maxi rubbish"

Listen look at lucus on the field he looks lost where as babel when he comes on he got pace the ability to dribble defenders and a shot like remember when he scored against lyon last year so don't even compare him to lucus because the only reason lucus was played last year was cause rafa liked him i bet you most fans would let lucus go for free

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23 Oct 2010 17:14:17
To who ever posted this :-

About four months ago i had a random dream that our new owners would be American and it came true. At the time i thought nothing of it and that the new owners would be some rich arab. Last night i had another random one and it was that we got Messi. Now that's a dream i wish comes true!. Imagine that if we got him. Does anyone know his contract details with barca and what his wage bill would be?. Who knows if this Frank "the camel" Rikjard rumour comes true he may very well be the man to tempt a player like messi to Anfield.

KEEP DREAMING !

LFC1

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23 Oct 2010 17:11:40
Liverpool should get rid of gerrard and torres, start fresh with a new manager and bring in class prem players not like pouslen and konceskey(spelling). if this happens we will defo climb the table.

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23 Oct 2010 17:02:15
Any good links to watch the matches please.

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23 Oct 2010 17:00:54
"23 Oct 2010 16:47:43
People don't realize that we are using babel incorrectly if we fit him into a 4-3-3 formation he will perform he is no that bad look at lucus and maxi rubbish"

If you're giving babel the benefit of the doubt because he's not being correctly utilised then surely you have to afford the same leniency to Lucas as well? He's never been a holding MF.

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23 Oct 2010 16:58:31
Im a liverpool fan twenty odd years now and i some way hopeing they lose tomorow, things surely can't go on the way they are .the new owners surely have to be looking at alternatives for roy. ps martin oneill wants back in to football asap ssn? ?

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23 Oct 2010 16:55:28
Rijkaard will go back to Holland He's after Ajax job. Hiddink wouldn't come yet either. That leaves Hodgson to continue or Dalglish or Oneil. The board won't want another manager who has fans power like raffa had so that rules out Dalglish. Between O'neil and Hodgson. . Well that's a coin toss who's better.
I guess Hodgson is staying for atleast one whole season.
My personal opinion is give the job to Dalglish as he is a winner, would keep our best players and challenge the league. His record doesn't need me to beef it up for him. The guy's a winner

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23 Oct 2010 16:51:37
One of the Editors said earlier that one player seems to be unhappy and that we will let him go. Is this payer Torres?

{Editor's Note: I would let go of any player who does not want to play for the club. At present Torres' head seems elsewhere. If he can't get it together then the club need to look for another solution before he becomes a disruptive influence. And I don't really care that he may or may not have been let down by past promises, if he is not happy then ship him out.}

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23 Oct 2010 16:47:43
People don't realize that we are using babel incorrectly if we fit him into a 4-3-3 formation he will perform he is no that bad look at lucus and maxi rubbish

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23 Oct 2010 16:41:03
"23 Oct 2010 16:03:35
There seems to be a lot of discussion surrounding finding a partner for Torres, with Hulk being the latest name cast in to the ring. Not wishing to upset my buddy Blair, but I think you really need to start thinking about a replacement for Torres - and perhaps a partner for the replacement.

Sharkey."

Anything you've heard in particular that leads you to this conclusion?

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23 Oct 2010 16:39:06
Woo-hooo, we're now 18th! Told you Roy would come good ;)

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23 Oct 2010 16:31:27
New players

Here is my wishlist for January:
1. Turan
2. Mata
3. Hamsek
I would happily sell Babel, Lucas, Poulsen, Johnson and Konchesky. Aurelio should be at left back.
4-3-3: Torres, Mata, Turan up front, Gerrard, Cole, Hamsek in midfield.
Get Rijkaard in with this team and they'll challenge Man Utd and Arsenal for 4th
YNWA

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23 Oct 2010 16:24:48
@23 Oct 2010 13:39:01 Liverpool Rumours "John Henry to miss Liverpool game v Blackburn due to illness "I'll be watching game from home. I already miss Anfield"-Werner will be there' as far as i knew liverpool were not being telivised. . unless he being a scouser already and tappin into the net"

LFCtv film every game and in this hi-tech day and age it's almost certain that there is an encrypted secure link in the company website for the Directors and other club 'suits' to log-in to to watch every match.

It wouldn't breach the Prem's exclusivity copyright laws because it would not be in the public domain (although Sharkey is the person best suited to comment on that aspect I think).

RED LENIN {ed's note - I think you will find that it is being televised abroad anyway, so I don't he will need to go to any trouble to watch the match.}

GUYS I LIVE IN CANADA AND I CAN TELL YOU WE GET TO SEE ALMOST EVERY LIVERPOOL GAME LIVE ON ONE CHANNEL OR ANOTHER. FOX ARE SHOWING TOMORROWS GAME LIVE AND THEN IT IS REPEATED LATER ON SETANTA CANADA (YES IT'S STILL RUNNING OVER HERE).

ChrisE

{Editor's Note: Chris is correct - outside of the UK games are broadcast live.}

Lads im in the republic of ireland and every liverpool game is shown live, ok i might have to go the pub to watch it and it might not be in english but its a certainity ill get to watch every liverpool game live on some foreign channel.

{Editor's Note: Again correct - outside of the UK (e.g. the Republic of Ireland) games are broadcast live.}

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23 Oct 2010 16:03:35
There seems to be a lot of discussion surrounding finding a partner for Torres, with Hulk being the latest name cast in to the ring. Not wishing to upset my buddy Blair, but I think you really need to start thinking about a replacement for Torres - and perhaps a partner for the replacement.

Sharkey.

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23 Oct 2010 15:56:12
"Ede what u think about signing the hulk? i feel that he would leave porto and is top quality?? {ed's note - he looks good, might well be a great partner for Torres if we could get him.}"

I think that there might be issues getting 'hulk' a work permit - i don't think he has played the necessary 75% of games for Brazil in the last year, and they normally only make exceptions for younger players!

{Editor's Note: I seem to recall there is a bit of a mess surrounding his ownership as well.}

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23 Oct 2010 15:54:12
Honestly can we trust Roy to buy players with the funds available in January? I mean seriously, do we need another Poulsen? Let's face it - you get mediocre with mediocre. I wd rather set aside the funds for next summer when hopefully by then the new manager wd have settled and can invest in players that suits his style of play

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23 Oct 2010 15:43:03
Sunday promises to be a special day at Anfield in more ways than one". .
These lines by John Henry seem to be very interesting. . Hope what comes first in mind, is the truth behind it. . !

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23 Oct 2010 15:34:30
The new owners said there would be a substantial amount next summer. The usual 20m+30m that we used to pay interest = 50m + money from player transfers. Do you think otherwise Ed?

{Editor's Note: Yes, I do think otherwise. There will not be a pile of cash handed over. The manager will have a broad understanding of what can be spent but will need to go on a case-by-case basis to the board. I am sure that they will support the manager with purchases that can improve the club, but don't expect vast summs to be spent.}

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23 Oct 2010 15:25:54
With the result we saw this earlier this week do you think we will start to see more of shelvey and spearing and is it possible they could play wide and would it be more productive to play them at mid and move gerrard back behind torres ed what are your thoughts? ?

redman

{Editor's Note: You will see more of them as they are squad members who will gain confidence with each game they play. And others will gain confidence in them, the manager, the other players (perhaps with the exception of Torres.}

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23 Oct 2010 15:21:16
23 Oct 2010 10:00:51

Rikjaard not ready to come to liverpool now. In last week lost father, had 1st child and lost job. Needs a few weeks off, so if we want him well have to wait and quick with hodgson for a bit longer! NIRed.

This is poor poor journalism, His father died about a month ago and his youngest child is 10 months old!

The Daily Mail are very pro Roy Hodgson matey and don't want Rijkaard to take over.

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23 Oct 2010 15:21:12
@23 Oct 2010 13:39:01 Liverpool Rumours "John Henry to miss Liverpool game v Blackburn due to illness "I'll be watching game from home. I already miss Anfield"-Werner will be there' as far as i knew liverpool were not being telivised. . unless he being a scouser already and tappin into the net"

LFCtv film every game and in this hi-tech day and age it's almost certain that there is an encrypted secure link in the company website for the Directors and other club 'suits' to log-in to to watch every match.

It wouldn't breach the Prem's exclusivity copyright laws because it would not be in the public domain (although Sharkey is the person best suited to comment on that aspect I think).

RED LENIN {ed's note - I think you will find that it is being televised abroad anyway, so I don't he will need to go to any trouble to watch the match.}

GUYS I LIVE IN CANADA AND I CAN TELL YOU WE GET TO SEE ALMOST EVERY LIVERPOOL GAME LIVE ON ONE CHANNEL OR ANOTHER. FOX ARE SHOWING TOMORROWS GAME LIVE AND THEN IT IS REPEATED LATER ON SETANTA CANADA (YES IT'S STILL RUNNING OVER HERE).

ChrisE

{Editor's Note: Chris is correct - outside of the UK games are broadcast live.}

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23 Oct 2010 15:11:40
23 Oct 2010 11:04:30
Right Let's get one thing straight, the reason we are in this position is the player's full stop
They have blamed the owners and now they are still playing awful its Roy's fault, forget training being 50 years out of date its a simple game those players need to take a good look at themself
if they don't want to play for Liverpool then go
Roy has 8 games with a team that is not his half the team came back from the world cup two weeks into the new season
half the team wanted to leave and had to convince to stay
since then he has lost a key midfielder
the players have been away on int duty
give him a break
there is no fix our team is awful but even with the players Roy puts out we should be winning
PLAYERS FAULT FULL STOP
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Is it not the managers job to motivate his players, make the feel invincible? Is it not the managers job to play a certain formation that's the best for each game? Is it not the managers job to replace transfers with equal or better players? Is it not the managers job to use substitutes when needed? Is it not the managers job to support his players or fans when they come under attack from other managers or pundits?
It's not just the players but the manager to.
In the run up to Everton I diddnt feel confident we could win and I feel the same with Blackburn.
We have 50mill plus player sales to spend next summer yet hodgson is looking at targets mid table teams are after.

{Editor's Note: "£50M plus player sales" - I really don't think so.}

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23 Oct 2010 15:04:54
Ed, what do you think of Valter Birsa! We have been linked with him too. . Have u seen him play. .

{Editor's Note: I remember seeing him when he was at Sochaux. Perhaps a good squad player at about £3M, but he is not going to set the league on fire.}

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23 Oct 2010 14:52:52
Now that NESV have added their own people to the liverpool board.We can expect a decision now Roy Hodgson future very soon .David Ginsberg, one of NESV's two vice-chairmen, and investor Michael Gordon have been appointed as club directors and will be at the match alongside new co-owner Tom Werner.
ngs77

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23 Oct 2010 14:51:24
Whats gonna happen tomoorrow. One thing is clear that we are gonna hear some stupid words from Roy, again. . When will he, be sacked! !
What do you think ed, is he gonna be sacked soon! !

{Editor's Note: The Eds have different opinions ranging from this weekend onwards. Personally I expect him to stay until at least January - possibly longer.}

So, you mean that we are about to loose our stars next year for sure. . If this happens, no one big would like to stay at a club finishing in the second half of the table. .

{Editor's Note: It seems at least one player has made it clear he is unhappy - well let them go. You cannot have players beaving as though they are bigger than the club.}

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23 Oct 2010 14:49:10
What more are we waiting for to sack Hodgson. . We are bad and are not showing any improvement. . hodgson stays, relegation battle is the end result. . C'mon now, its once again a battle for us. We should show, what we want now. And tomorrow against blackburn, we have the best chance to show Roy a stick. .
we can't suffer any more, now. .

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23 Oct 2010 14:31:19
I live in Holland and I am able to watch almost every game on my laptop free of charge so I'm pretty sure that the new bosses will be able to watch it live as well. I must add that I haven't seen a decent match for almost eighteen months.

{Editor's Note: Most EPL games are broadcast abroad without hinder. Also, clubs can show the games live within the confines of the ground - typically boxes, corprate areas and directors lounges have televisions showing the games.}

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23 Oct 2010 14:23:25
About four months ago i had a random dream that our new owners would be American and it came true. At the time i thought nothing of it and that the new owners would be some rich arab. Last night i had another random one and it was that we got Messi. Now that's a dream i wish comes true!. Imagine that if we got him. Does anyone know his contract details with barca and what his wage bill would be?. Who knows if this Frank "the camel" Rikjard rumour comes true he may very well be the man to tempt a player like messi to Anfield.

The Roachmiester

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23 Oct 2010 14:18:58
"Not if wolves lose by 2 goals at chelsea! !"

That it should come to this. Worrying whether we'll be bottom tonight and praying Chelsea stuff Wolves just so that we won't be iorrespective of how anyone else does.

I feel like I'm in a parallel universe.

RED LENIN
(ps - I also think that Roy will be manager til Xmas and binned then)

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23 Oct 2010 14:16:17
Question for everyone . Do you want 3 points tomorrow and Roy to stay .or get beat and him to be sacked belivable to stay unbelievable to go

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23 Oct 2010 14:11:44
Whats gonna happen tomoorrow. One thing is clear that we are gonna hear some stupid words from Roy, again. . When will he, be sacked! !
What do you think ed, is he gonna be sacked soon! !

{Editor's Note: The Eds have different opinions ranging from this weekend onwards. Personally I expect him to stay until at least January - possibly longer.}

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23 Oct 2010 14:06:45
@23 Oct 2010 13:39:01 Liverpool Rumours "John Henry to miss Liverpool game v Blackburn due to illness "I'll be watching game from home. I already miss Anfield"-Werner will be there' as far as i knew liverpool were not being telivised. . unless he being a scouser already and tappin into the net"

LFCtv film every game and in this hi-tech day and age it's almost certain that there is an encrypted secure link in the company website for the Directors and other club 'suits' to log-in to to watch every match.

It wouldn't breach the Prem's exclusivity copyright laws because it would not be in the public domain (although Sharkey is the person best suited to comment on that aspect I think).

RED LENIN {ed's note - I think you will find that it is being televised abroad anyway, so I don't he will need to go to any trouble to watch the match.}

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23 Oct 2010 14:03:35
"23 Oct 2010 09:17:57

I am not a Benitez fan and certainly don't want him back. But I can't help thinking that we'd be at least 5 or 6 points better off this season if he'd been in charge."

Possibly, but we'd also be one or two star players lighter. After replacing Alonso with Aquilani would you trust him to replace the other key figures?
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he wouldn't of needed to. because i feel he would have kept aquilani also persuade masch to stay, and got a better left back than wht roy got and possibly got mavinga and pacheco onto the bench on a regular basis.

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23 Oct 2010 14:02:38
If the Hammers get at least a point today then Liverpool will be bottom of the EPL tonight. As unbelievable as it sounds, maybe Roy should bring a cut out of the table a pin it to the dressing room wall. Then he should be asking is this where we belong! Players, coaches & manager included need to improve. There's nothing more than I would like than us to beat that fat f*ck Allardyce's team & ram his words back down his big fat mouth!

The Irish Rover

Not if wolves lose by 2 goals at chelsea! !

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23 Oct 2010 14:01:49
23 Oct 2010 13:42:48
Phil Thompson says Roy should be given more time speaking on soccer Saturday
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And apparently according to the Reporter who interviewed Arteta on Soccer Saturday Everton are now 'top dogs' on Merseyside just because they win their first PL derby match in 4 years. Unbelievable bias against Liverpool.
Also not one mention that it was Rafa who completely out thought Redknapp tactically when Inter, lets face it, completely destroyed Spurs last week. Anti Rafa also.

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23 Oct 2010 14:01:23
How many fans want Hodgson to stay more than a week? ?

Believable = Yes
Unbelievable = No

NIRed

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23 Oct 2010 13:52:36
People please stop complaining about who we are 'supposed' to be looking at, there is no way on this earth we could compete with anybody like Arsenal, Everton, Man Ure or Chavski. Why would a player choose us over a champions league / Premier league challenging side?
We need to spend time re-building and re-establishing our identity, sort out the manager (whether he's going or staying) then lets not forget NESV are not going to plough obscene amounts of money in so we need to off load our dead wood and who is gonna pay anything like we have for players like Babel or Aquaman?
We have a mid table manager with alot of mid table players that play like championship players, if you were someone like Aguero watching our season unfold would you come? lets re establish our identity first.

What say the Ed's? {ed's note - I agree mate, time to just steady the ship and get things moving in the right direction.}

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23 Oct 2010 13:42:48
Phil Thompson says Roy should be given more time speaking on soccer Saturday

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23 Oct 2010 13:39:05
Whoever gets the manager job.would like hollaway as a number 2

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23 Oct 2010 13:39:01
'John Henry to miss Liverpool game v Blackburn due to illness "I'll be watching game from home. I already miss Anfield"-Werner will be there'

as far as i knew liverpool were not being telivised. .
unless he being a scouser already and tappin into the net

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23 Oct 2010 13:37:22
Please, please, please come and take roman pavlyuchenco off of our hands? most would drive him to liverpool so come on, come and get him!

We did try and sign him in the last transfer window he nocked us back!
And why get rid of him he got some important goals for use lot last season , just cause hes in a bad run doesent me anything every player goes through a bad patch

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23 Oct 2010 13:35:45
Funny how mon decides he want to get back in the game now with all the uncertinty surrounding lfc. hope no one in any position of power at lfc takes any notice of him. . he would be another disaster.

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23 Oct 2010 13:29:09
22 Oct 2010 22:24:58
{ed's note - I always though Spain played a 3 man front line, Torres as the central one, hence why Villa plays on the left of it. Personally I think Torres is in desperate need of a strike partner, one up top just doesn't work unless you have a lot of support from midfield. We are not playing high enough up the pitch to make one striker work.}

couldn't agree more! our lack of support is almost beyond belief. what worked so well when we had alonso (more often than not) is that alonso would collect the ball from deep, with the rest of midfield forward of him. sometimes he'd play a long ball, sometimes short, sometimes a killer ball but 9 times out of 10 it would mean that whoever he passed to is in an advanced position and along with the rest of our midfield, could support torres. Since he left, all our midfield seem to drop back and we just play sideways and backwards and rarely in our opponents half! When we get it torres he's usually left with 3 choices. Pass it back 20 yards, try and score a miracle goal from wherever he is, or play it short because he's had to drop so deep to receive the ball.

Against Napoli in the 1st half i decided to count the number of times a liverpool player made a SUCCESSFUL, FORWARD pass to a team mate whilst in the OPPONENTS half. This didn't have to be a chance creating pass, just one that was received and controlled. Admittedly i only started after 7mins but the total at half time was. . 16! and most of these were followed almost immediately by a pass backwards or sideways. Not the most exciting stat but a frightening indication of just how much of a threat we lack.

Redfish

Redfish, I agree with this analysis, but would also add that persisting with a striker in N'Gog, who seems to be absolutely incapable of receiving a pass and bringing the midfield into an attack is absolute lunacy. At the minute, the team is constantly being turned round by this outrageous weakness in our squad. He cannot tackle, dribble, cross or shoot, he is an utter liability and a waste of a shirt. Defenders must piss themselves laughing when they see him come on. he is a lightweight. Babel has his issues, but lack of strength is NOT one of them.

I seriously believe that most of our current problems are down to 2 players, Carragher and N'Gog. Carra is undroppable, which will take this great club down, and the media is persisting with this BS that he is the heart and soul of the team. At his best he was average. He actually started out as a right-sided midfielder for a time before moving to RB, then CD. His touch is woeful, and his pace is sedentary at best. Let's please get a footballer in defence, alongside Skrtel or Wilson. And for heaven's sake, please can we play a forward capable of holding onto the ball.

ferd

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23 Oct 2010 13:24:56
How did we miss out on players like Van Der Vaart, Sneijder & Robben in the last few years when Real Madrid were getting rid of them for cheap? It's criminal.

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23 Oct 2010 13:18:17
Liverpool are now interested in signing Valta Birsa, they have joined clubs such as Blackpool and Wigan, obviously he's the next worlds best player :(

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23 Oct 2010 13:17:09
Ian Holloway is awsome. Just heard his rant about bosnam rulings and never laughed so much!
His football is attacking and organised. He's so passionate and successfull with Blackpool.
He reminds me of Cloughie. Maybe Halloway is worth a shot at Liverpool

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23 Oct 2010 13:06:02
Ikeep reading we are in competition with westham spurs and everton for the same players , should we not be in competition with bigger teams for players

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23 Oct 2010 12:50:04
If the Hammers get at least a point today then Liverpool will be bottom of the EPL tonight. As unbelievable as it sounds, maybe Roy should bring a cut out of the table a pin it to the dressing room wall. Then he should be asking is this where we belong! Players, coaches & manager included need to improve. There's nothing more than I would like than us to beat that fat f*ck Allardyce's team & ram his words back down his big fat mouth!

The Irish Rover

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23 Oct 2010 12:23:08
"23 Oct 2010 09:17:57

I am not a Benitez fan and certainly don't want him back. But I can't help thinking that we'd be at least 5 or 6 points better off this season if he'd been in charge."

Possibly, but we'd also be one or two star players lighter. After replacing Alonso with Aquilani would you trust him to replace the other key figures?

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23 Oct 2010 11:48:55
'John Henry to miss Liverpool game v Blackburn due to illness "I'll be watching game from home. I already miss Anfield"-Werner will be there'

Source (danroan) twitter

Harry5

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23 Oct 2010 11:38:15
The one thing I take from the comment on lfc tv, about the defence, Roy as seen enough of Carra at centre back and doesn't want him there.Why did he give him a new contract? I totally agree he as been a warhorse but he is now way past is best.I think Roy is frightened of dropping Carra. he shouldnt be. lfc fans of Bill and Sir Bob days have seen loads of legends leave the club.He should take charge of the situation, not stop the development of the young lads coming through.If he prefers the Greek to Carra, then that's his decision. what you don't do is put Carra right or left back, just to keep in the fans good books .Most fans know Carra as to foul more than tackle these days he is becoming a liability. I love Carra and respect him but I wouldn't play him anymore.Not at the expense of the young lads devlopment Carra got his chance at 20, why not let Kelly have his chance.I am not blaming Carra for this I am blaming Roy.Give the lads a chance they might save your job.

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23 Oct 2010 11:36:32
I hope you post this roy h is not ever going to get it at liverpool and all the talk of rykcard yes he plays attacking footy but has had ups and downs as a manager the right fit is king kenny knows how to win and will unite the whole club which is needed more than ever at the moment if at end of season we done good give him the job full time if not the see the best option available maybe bring stevie nicol back as No 2?

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23 Oct 2010 11:23:53
Wot do ye mean i was responsible for portsmuf gannin under not me guv i only spent wot the chairman let me not my fault ther was no money there i made a gud packet thou and took all the best players wiv me to spurs on massive contracts so what wen the money runs out il be ok ive got my 10million pound mansion in poole and millions in the bank im a geezer a wheeler dealer people like me deserve this money, if the football bubble burst so wot won't effect me il be ok you mugs the fans will be the ones who suffer you lot work 9 to 5 to give me and the lads(players) our fantastic lifestyles wiv all the birds we can shag and champers we can drink and do you know wot we fink of ye we fink ye are all fackin w* kers and daft cants ha
from arry the cockney wideboy duckin n divin real diamond geezer redknapp

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23 Oct 2010 11:19:02
Our team until January should look like this;

Reina
Kelly Skrtel Agger Aurelio

Johnson Gerrard Meireles Jovanovic

Cole
Torres

Then in January sell the Babels' and Lucas' of this world and say to Juve that they can keep Aquilain for 10-12m, so overall we get around 25m in sales hopefully. Plus 30m(hopefully from NESV, as they can see we need the money) which means we will have about 50m to spend, hopefully. We will need a CB, RB, CM, LW and ST. This is who I would like to see arriving;

Mexes- 6m
Elia- 15m
Van der Wiel- 10m
Muntari- Loan
Llorente- 18m

Total- 49m

Team after Transfer Window;

Reina
Wiel Mexes Agger Aurelio

Johnson Meireles/ Muntari Elia

Gerrard

Llorente Torres

Then in the summer we will need a LB, CB(possibly) RW(if Johnson is not good enough, a new permanent CM, and a cover ST). I would get;

Criscito- 10m
Cahill- 15m
Young- 15m
Honda- 12m
Kerzhakov- 8m

Yes I know it's a lot of money, but we will get back a lot of money in shirt sales with Honda from Asia, and maybe with kerzhakov from Russia.

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23 Oct 2010 11:12:37
In jan we shud go all out to buy hulk, luked absolutley amazing in europa league. steven defour shud be signed giving him garantee of first team football. honda aswell as he can play in many positions and if we can afellay/ turan both wud be execellent additions. pavlchenko, swp wud be poor signings. phil jones, good but unlikely
outs:
lucas 7m
maxi 3m
poulsen 2m
babel 6m
owners 40m
total: 58m

ins:
hulk 15m
honda 10m
defour 12m
turan/ afellay 15/ 10m
Total: 52/ 47m

reina
kelly skrtel agger aurelio
turan/ afellay defour gerrard honda
torres hulk

subs: jones, johnson, carragher, cole, meireles, kuyt, jovanovic

defo top 4 with that squad

E.H LFC

the future is brite 4 reds!

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23 Oct 2010 11:04:30
Right Let's get one thing straight, the reason we are in this position is the player's full stop
They have blamed the owners and now they are still playing awful its Roy's fault, forget training being 50 years out of date its a simple game those players need to take a good look at themself
if they don't want to play for Liverpool then go
Roy has 8 games with a team that is not his half the team came back from the world cup two weeks into the new season
half the team wanted to leave and had to convince to stay
since then he has lost a key midfielder
the players have been away on int duty
give him a break
there is no fix our team is awful but even with the players Roy puts out we should be winning
PLAYERS FAULT FULL STOP

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23 Oct 2010 11:01:42
Ede what u think about signing the hulk?? i feel that he would leave porto and is top quality? ? {ed's note - he looks good, might well be a great partner for Torres if we could get him.}

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23 Oct 2010 11:00:18
Ed, would u go as far as saying roy will defo be gone if we don't win sunday? ? {ed's note - I don't think he will be staying long no matter what results he gets.}

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23 Oct 2010 10:58:45
Ed, do u think its time t cash in on torres and buy 2 quality front men?? ? {ed's note - only if we need the money his sale would bring to buy anyone.}

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23 Oct 2010 10:47:34
James corden to be next liverpool manager
he has done everything else. and somehow is popular god knows how

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23 Oct 2010 10:41:31
"It would be unfair to play young Kelly and leave experience like Skirtel and Kyrgiagos out of the squad". .Quote off LFCTv.

What the h*ck is going on here, why move Jamie from CB to RB when you have a perfectly good right back in Kelly, I've had enough of this silly old tw*t now, get shut of him right away. U PLAY PEOPLE IN THEIR CORRECT POSITION. . .it not rocket science, Am I being unreasonable here Ed or what. .

Sooty {ed's note - that is the most stupid quote I have ever seen, you play your best team, not the one that will upset the least people.}

I've never seen anything like this in my life, his priority seems to be as you say don't upset anybody in the senior squad, Tell u what when Torres is unfit again we can't play Ngog cos we have an experienced player on the sidelines so lets play Agger centre forward as he's experienced.
It's a bit extreme I know but the same thing. I know Jamie can play right back but he isn't a good enough right back at the moment. i'm really frightened for us now Ed. .

Sooty

{Editor's Note: No need to be frightened Sooty - I am sure everything will be fine in the end - perhaps a little bumpy on the way.}

Bumpy I can handle, but I can see Roller coaster coming. . . The Big One at Blackpool. .

Sooty

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23 Oct 2010 10:38:42
Ed, do you think Liverpool is lookinag at a possible Roy replacement. . or what Roy believes, is true (Hope, not)

{Editor's Note: I am sure they are considering their options - what is not clear is the timeframe.}

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23 Oct 2010 10:33:09
Please, please, please come and take roman pavlyuchenco off of our hands? most would drive him to liverpool so come on, come and get him!

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23 Oct 2010 10:26:44
"It would be unfair to play young Kelly and leave experience like Skirtel and Kyrgiagos out of the squad". .Quote off LFCTv.

What the h*ck is going on here, why move Jamie from CB to RB when you have a perfectly good right back in Kelly, I've had enough of this silly old tw*t now, get shut of him right away. U PLAY PEOPLE IN THEIR CORRECT POSITION. . .it not rocket science, Am I being unreasonable here Ed or what. .

Sooty {ed's note - that is the most stupid quote I have ever seen, you play your best team, not the one that will upset the least people.}

I've never seen anything like this in my life, his priority seems to be as you say don't upset anybody in the senior squad, Tell u what when Torres is unfit again we can't play Ngog cos we have an experienced player on the sidelines so lets play Agger centre forward as he's experienced.
It's a bit extreme I know but the same thing. I know Jamie can play right back but he isn't a good enough right back at the moment. i'm really frightened for us now Ed. .

Sooty

{Editor's Note: No need to be frightened Sooty - I am sure everything will be fine in the end - perhaps a little bumpy on the way.}

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23 Oct 2010 09:57:29
Look guys im as pi* ed off as anyone about our form at the moment but i do believe Roy will be given the next 2 games to save his job. Blackburn then Bolton so lets get behind him and give him his chance. 6 points out of next 2 games would probably c us into the top 10. We can build from there and the right signings in jan and things might start to look up. If we don't win next 2 then change is inevidable. Roy deserves our support while he is LFC manager the greatest job in football.

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23 Oct 2010 09:56:59
HI ED
Any news on the manager front yet.
how long do you think roy will be there for. i would of sacked him now then put kenny in place till we get a manager. but we should of done that in the first place.

are the players that don't like roy gerrard and torres

{Editor's Note: Different editor's have different views on what will happen with respect to the management of Liverpool. My undertsanding is that one expects Mr Hodgson to make way between now and Monday. I have a rather different thought on the subject - and expect him to stay rather longer. But you never know.}

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23 Oct 2010 09:10:39
It seems to me that Drenthe, who is currently on loan at Hercles, has a come and get me sign on his back. He caused us no end of problems when he played against us with his skill and his enthusiasm and energy. Perfect left sided midfielder and can even play Left back although a bit wasted there, what do you think Ed?

Sooty {ed's note - I believe he has attitude problems and extremely high wage demands, hence why he is still a Real Madrid player.}

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23 Oct 2010 08:50:48
"It would be unfair to play young Kelly and leave experience like Skirtel and Kyrgiagos out of the squad". .Quote off LFCTv.

What the F*ck is going on here, why move Jamie from CB to RB when you have a perfectly good right back in Kelly, I've had enough of this silly old tw*t now, get shut of him right away. U PLAY PEOPLE IN THEIR CORRECT POSITION. . .it not rocket science, Am I being unreasonable here Ed or what. .

Sooty {ed's note - that is the most stupid quote I have ever seen, you play your best team, not the one that will upset the least people.}

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23 Oct 2010 08:42:50
Ed, do u think we could get these 3 in jan and are they real liverpool players? phil jones, Roman Pavlyuchenko, shaun wright-phillips, {ed's note - not a chance in hell of getting Jones, easily get Pav but he is not good enough, why the hell would we consider the headless useless chicken that is SWP? He can't pass, he can't tackle, he can't cross, he can't shoot, he has no positional sense, all he has is work rate and decent pace.}

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23 Oct 2010 08:35:53
Am I the only person who believes that Babel would be a great player under Wenger? He has the talent without question. He just needs coaching, rafa didn't do that and Woy isn't either. I fear for the great deal of talent that we have. Pacecho (spelling) Amoo Shevley Kelly should be playing more at least 10-15 mins a game.

Just loom at the kids we lost, Rafa could have made them something, the next fowler, Owen, macmoneyman. Instead nothing they became could have beens.

When was the last time a 16 year old hit the seen like Owen or fowler with his 5 goals.

Oh yea diao had the worst first touch ;) {ed's note - Wenger had Babel watched for years but decided he wasn't good enough to sign.}

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23 Oct 2010 08:28:34
Im sick and tired of morons like allardyce taking pot shots at Our club
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Well Roy won't say anything back. But I loved it when rafa said:
"'They do that because they find it more difficult to do their job. He (Allardyce) is a model for all the managers round the world. I'm sure his style of play and behaviour is the perfect model for all kids and managers everywhere.
'I'm sure parents everywhere will enjoy this model and tell their kids, "This is how it should be done." In fact, I believe Barcelona are thinking about copying this style."

Rafa clearly picked up some typical english humor during his time at pool and he beat allardayce on AND off the field

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23 Oct 2010 08:18:10
22 Oct 2010 23:12:36

Im sick and tired of morons like allardyce taking pot shots at Our club, You know who your friends are when the going gets tough.Howard kendall, allardyce, redknapp are all going to own us an engraved apology.And all this talk of changing manager's 8 games in is rubbish, get behind the team or f*ck off youre giving real fans a bad name.Liverpool fans always backed there managers and were not gonna start calling for there heads now especially after only 8 games.If you don't like go to eastlands, im sure they will be changing managers reguarlery.
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"FRIENDS OF FERGUSON". ALL OF THEM.

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23 Oct 2010 08:15:56
23 Oct 2010 00:27:16

Guillem Ballague has gotten it wrong more times than Wayne Rooneys mother & we all know the h*ck up she made.
Adam red sox
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Balague is the anti everything Liverpool propaganda mouthpiece of Rafa benitez. Don't expect him to say anything positive about Liverpool now or in the future.

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23 Oct 2010 07:12:08
IS THIS GUY FOR REAL?? ?? ?? ?

So which club will Kenny leave for Liverpool then mate? And O'Neill?

What an absolute fool! This bloke is clearly up to date on all things football! ! ! !

22 Oct 2010 22:47:48
Source: asiaplate.com

Former Galatasaray and Barcelona boss Frank Rijkaard is reported coming close to replace Roy Hodgon after another disapointed performance in Italy. Speculation is rife that Roy Hodgson will leave Anfield and will surely to be axed as early as this weekend if the club do not beat Blackburn Rovers on Sunday, however any resultant victory merely delaying the inevitable.

Rijkaard agent stated that no actual contact has been made but THE DUTCH MAN WAS APPOACHED AND HE IS VERY INTERESTED IN THE JOB AT ANFIELD.

Odds for Rijkaard being the next Liverpool manager have dropped dramatically and he is now the clear favourite to take over from under fire Hodgson.

Martin ONeill and Kenny Dalglish are also linked with the job, but it's unlikely both to leave their current club for Liverpool.

harry5:)

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23 Oct 2010 07:03:21
I have read a lot of people asking and wanting roy to be sacked which I don't want. He will get the team playing much better. I think he didn't realised how much unrest & lack of confidence in his key players. The best way to solve this is ask the player I mean all the players if they want to still be at the club if they do then stay if they don't then leave.
Ed and anyone agree?

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23 Oct 2010 06:47:10
Liverpool fans are the most loyal fans any manager can ask for. Evidence to this can be counted by how many managers we have had since Mr Shankly.
Our style of play, confidence and league position at present show the frustration of the fans. We lack goals and arnt confident in the next game. For these reason's the fans question Mr Hodgsons ability. If Mr Benitez was stil in charge we would be at least midtable and he would have counter attacked any attack to his players from other managers or pundits. This means the board did Not replace the manager with someone of a higher standard. It's unheard of a club Liverpool's size should be out of the title race after only 8games. Hodgsons buys have been questionable to say the least. How much longer do we give him? The longer were in the Relegation zone the harder the battle to get out. It seem the players have lost confidence in the manager as well as the fans. Everton game was unexectpable and four losses in only 8 games is a joke. Can you honestly see Hodgson getting a long run of victories and turning the club around? Maybe the pressure of this club is just to great for the manager. UEFA cup should be the last priority not the first. This shows lack of ambition to get the club to the right place. Hodgson was Purslows man and now it seems Purslow paid the price of not listening to the fans. Getting to UEFA cup final is good on Hodgsons CV but his league position of 12th and the fact he never won the UEFA cup plus his age shows he should not have been installed on the fact of one season. Rijkaard would need a few seasons to learn this league so I would suggest Dalglish installed because of his knowledge and he is a winner. Dalglish in my eyes deserves another chance and I'm sure he IS the right man

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23 Oct 2010 03:17:07
Wats happenin guys, love the site, keep up the good work. my question is we keep cryin out for a striker as back up, wat ever happened to kristian nemeth? was he not rated as the next fowler? wen is he gonna be given a chance, surely hes of a decent age now. and craig linfield? any ideas ed? {ed's note - both failed to make the grade and were moved on mate.}

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23 Oct 2010 02:27:08
With 30m+ or watever spare change we find down the back of the kop, who could we even buy? nobody worth mentioning will want to play for a team in a relegation battle. im all for backing managers but im sick of these weekly disappointments that don't look like stopping any time soon. we need someone who can do what harry did at spurs. kick them up the arse and get them playing. the team lacks drive, passion, flair, creativity and most importantly, we've lost our heart. do not despair redmen. it will all come together, whether roy goes now or never is irrelevant, the team will click. we have a brilliant squad of individual talent, no 1 can deny that, just play 41212 and problem solved
reina
kelly skrtel agger konchesky
merieles
johnson cole
gerrard
torres ngog

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23 Oct 2010 02:11:52
The perfect lfc team in my eyes would be do-able

reina
kelly vlaar agger taiwo
defour
meireles gerrard elia
lopez torres


subs. jones, aurelio, carra, affelay, shelvey, pacheco, kuyt

vlaar maybe 8 mil
taiwo maybe 8-10mil
elia maybe 8-12mill
lopez 14.5mill
defour around 12 mill

click believable if u agree etc

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23 Oct 2010 02:08:27
Get Holloway in. .anyone see his rant about rooney. .absolute quality. .he would soon get rid of torres and gerrard if they didn't want to b there or if they didn't respect him! !

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23 Oct 2010 01:43:45
"23 Oct 2010 01:12:54

The demise of blackburn rovers, by roy hodgson-from league champions to relegation:
Roy Hodgson joined the club from Inter Milan in the summer of 1997, and appeared to have had a positive effect on the club. He marked his arrival with the signings of highly rated Swedish striker Martin Dahlin and promising defender Stephane Henchoz. Chris Sutton and Kevin Gallacher led a prolific attack, and were able to help the team overcome the disappointing form of Dahlin, who struggled with a back injury. UEFA cup football was secured with a 6th place finish, and there were plenty of entertaining games, such as a 4-3 defeat to Leeds which saw all 7 goals coming within the first 32 minutes, and a 5-3 success over Leicester at Ewood Park. Although some of these results went against them, it summed up Hodgson's newly installed attacking ideology. With European football coming up, and the prospect of a title challenge on the horizon, things looked promising at the start of the 1998-99 season.

However, Rovers made a poor start to the campaign and Hodgson was sacked in December less than an hour after a 2-0 home defeat to bottom side Southampton, a result that locked Rovers in the relegation zone. The £7.5m signing of young Southampton striker Kevin Davies was a disaster, with Davies only netting once, against Charlton in a rare win, in 24 games. To make matters worse, team captain and midfield enforcer Tim Sherwood was sold to Tottenham Hotspur, leaving the side without a leader. Brian Kidd, the hugely successful Manchester United assistant manager, was named as Hodgson's successor. However, he could not save them as the club slipped away, relegation was confirmed with a scoreless draw at home to Manchester United in the penultimate game of the season. So, just four years after lifting the Premier League title, Blackburn Rovers were now back in the second tier of English Football.
and if we don't act now he will do the same to us!"

Tbh i don't think you can put either decline solely at the feet of Hodgson, but i'll admit the similarities are there. Some would say that at Blackburn he inherited a side of players that had grown too full of their self importance, assuming themselves to actually be the best the league had to offer. After Sherwood forced his way out to Spurs numerous others decided that they were too good to roll their sleeves up and put in a shift. I can accept players not putting in effort for a side that splashed cash wantonly and wasn't a real name, but to see the lack of effort from players wearing the shirt of such a club as Liverpool currently is sad. I accept Hodgson has to go and he has to take responsibility, but there are many factors that have led to where we are, not least of all the players themselves.

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23 Oct 2010 01:16:19
Frank Rijkaard is exactly what we need, a successful manager at a big club (Barca). He proved that he can turn an underachieving team around, Barca were awful when he arrived, then they won 2 league titles and an european cup.

He sets his team out to play football the right way as most dutch coaches do, and unlike Roy he will actually be able to attract some top class players to the club but will also give younger players a chance if they are good enough, he bought iniesta and messi into the barca team. he's already worked with the youth team coaches we now have at the club so that can only be good. Get Roy out and Frank in NOW!

Realist.

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23 Oct 2010 01:09:36
I think if we get a manager who wants to play good football Jan Vertonghen would be an excellent buy. He's a solid defender who can play the ball and has a good shot on him. He's a similar player to Agger. Would love to see him at the back with Agger, in a team that plays good football. Had enough of Skrtle and Soto at the back.
Ed, you seen this guy play?

{Editor's Note: I have not seen him play I am afraid.}

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23 Oct 2010 00:54:20
Right lads what is really going on?? is roy getting the size 9 out the door?? we can't go on like this much longer. kenny is a no go for a replacement manager even tempory cause if results don't improve it'll only damage his rep and that would be terrible as the new generation of fans would never think of him for the great servant of the club that he has been. we need a manager who will let the team play with the freedom to attack but defend as a team when needed. fr might be a good bet but also consider vincente del b. he just won everything with spain. he didn't do too bad at real either.

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23 Oct 2010 00:53:58
I've jujst heard Roy Hodgson was offered a lifetime contract while he was at Malmo. . . .such a shame he didn't accept hit.

looking through his record it appears he turns almost every time bottom of the league clubs. . . . . . into middle of the table clubs. . . . . . and low ranking countries. . . . . .into mid ranking countries. . . . . .

Does anybody see the pattern here?

so if you are a Roy fan, our great team won't be relegated at all, far from it!. . . . . . . we will end up 11th or 12th at best. . . . now do u see it, he has to go, his tactics are 30 years out of date. He has already said why should he change the tactics that have served him well for 35 years, after all he did win the swedish league 5 times in a row(tho' Malmo were by far the biggest team in Sweden anyway, and richest. . .think equivalent of Chelsea.


Lets hope Frank Rijkaard comes in sooner rather than later.

Ed, any comment on this? {ed's note - I am not convinced Rijkaard is the answer, but at least we would be able to enjoy watching the team play once more.}

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23 Oct 2010 00:30:35
22 Oct 2010 17:44:06
Macca, any news on the manager front?

I have been told he has two games to sort it out.

Macca
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If this true Macca then we are in serious trouble. Roy needs to leave/ sacked. If not now then after the Blackburn match whatever the result.

Blair Mayne YNWA

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23 Oct 2010 00:29:42
Why Mata, Turan and the rest? We should be finding and singning more Jonjo Shelveys. . Then the future will be bright indeed.
RHI

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23 Oct 2010 00:29:07
Is it just me but does Roy look totally lost on the side line? Just imagine being on the pitch things not going that well (every game this season) and you look over too your manager for a bit of a lift and you see Roy biting his nails, scratching his ear, head down, looks like his best mate has just been run over by a truck! How the F* k can you lift your game when you see that s* t going on! We are playing crap football but if you look over at the sideline and see a passionate manager that will give you the bollicking of a life time if you are not performing, Believable for a new passionate manager or unbelievable for Roy.
Aroc

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23 Oct 2010 00:25:10
Ed Whats your take on the chances of signing Juan Mata ?

LFC1

{Editor's Note: Remote at best. Valencia are having a great season in the league and are in the Champions League. The player would likely not want a move - certainly not in January.}

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23 Oct 2010 00:15:04
"23 Oct 2010 00:00:06
To the person who said this

Guliem balaque (excuse the spelling)says mata is coming to liverpool.

WRONG me thinks, my source in spain tells me that he will be signing a new contract with Valencia.

LFC1

i think he knows what hes talking about if not that's a very big statment to make don't you think."

Sounds unlikely - where are you claiming he said it?

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23 Oct 2010 00:10:22
Ref Mata

Here is what has been said yesterday 22nd

GUILLEM SAYS: Mata is about to renew his contract with Valencia. I think that if the club goes through a bad period - by which I mean one or two defeats - then they may announce the agreement which is basically all but done. So Mata will stay at Valencia for a while yet. He feels he is one of the most important players but that he can also still develop and he's got the perfect environment at Valencia to do just that. It will be interesting to find out how much money Liverpool have put aside for new signings. In my eyes, their owners don't appear to have a huge amount of money and some of the finances for the squad will have to come from selling other players. That suggests to me that they are not in a position to sign someone of Mata's stature.

LFC1

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23 Oct 2010 00:07:53
I feel sorry for Roy and I really like him but I do think that perhaps he might not succeed at LFC. Let me explain my thinking. His style of play appears to require the players to be prepared to become one of eleven cogs in a football machine (sort of like a footballing equivalent of the Borg: I can see why he has been so successful in Scandinavia). This approach of being more concerned with keeping the shape of the team rather than pressing the opposition for the ball all over the park works (didn't the Special One's Inter basically give up on trying to get the ball back when they played against Barcelona in last year's Champions League semi-final - and everyone hails him as the greatest!). Roy is an intelligent chap and manager and when he has his type of player playing for him they like and respect him and his style works. Nobody can criticise him for wanting to manage LFC when offered the chance. We would all want to. Unfortunately this style would probably never work at the 'Pool (at the moment) though because we have too many players who, while being outstanding players, would never be prepared to completely sacrifice their natural urges to be the big star crowd favourite even if it meant that the team would start winning stuff (albeit in a possibly not always beautiful manner). Perhaps if the ratio of robots to superstars in the team was shifted in favour of robots (but retaining one or two superstars of outstanding talent; Gerrard, Torres) we would become world beaters. I'd like to see it work. Anyway as a Liverpool fan I have felt a bit ashamed to see some of the personal attacks on Roy on this site and others from other Liverpool fans. I would hate to think that Roy thinks that all us Liverpool fans can be so narrow minded. We're better than that

Capt Salty Grey

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23 Oct 2010 00:04:09
To the person who said this

Guliem balaque (excuse the spelling)says mata is coming to liverpool.

WRONG me thinks, my source in spain tells me that he will be signing a new contract with Valencia.

LFC1

i think he knows what hes talking about if not that's a very big statment to make don't you think.

No not really its another pipe dream rumour !
LFC1

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23 Oct 2010 00:00:06
To the person who said this

Guliem balaque (excuse the spelling)says mata is coming to liverpool.

WRONG me thinks, my source in spain tells me that he will be signing a new contract with Valencia.

LFC1

i think he knows what hes talking about if not that's a very big statment to make don't you think.

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