Liverpool Banter Archive December 09 2010

 

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09 Dec 2010 23:51:04
09 Dec 2010 23:26:17
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I like everyone enjoy speculating on the forthcoming transfer window but can people please stop suggesting the following as they are fowl, awful and talentless footballers unworthy of the red shirt. Ashley Young, Charles N'Zogbia, Roger Johnson, Scott Dann, Matthew Etherington, Adil Rami, Rod Fanni, Mario Gomez, Luis Suarez and ofcourse Carlton Cole. I watch lots of football and refuse to believe that dross is what people believe we Liverpool Football club would be interested in. I think Comolli will get in a few kids, Woy won't pick em, and that'll get him fired in the summer.

ashely young, decent winger, just needs right players around him, , nzogbia same as young, , mario gomez great striker, as u can see lately which will keep him at bayern, luis suarez great striker made a mistake but so does alot of ppl, the others i don't know much about some and agree on the carlton cole, etherington, adil rami, , ,

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09 Dec 2010 23:49:28
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09 Dec 2010 23:42:05
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Ed manchester is not hotter as liverpool as bin the hottest place in england the past week due to the hot air from the sea so dn't nw were you getin your info from as i got myne of (are) fred, itv, ch4, bbc1, 2, so . . . . . there that covered liverpool will sign 4 players between 26-31 dec this is a certainty as i am stayin in the same hotel as thomas warner and heard him on the phone an ask him wot he sed wen he got off it he jst smiled an sed;you'll never walk alone; an then went into his room so wot do you think ed? {ed's note - I think you are talking rubbish, pure fantasy and I don't care what Fred etc say, during the summer Liverpool is colder.}

wot summer is this ed we dnt have summers over here on wen it was the hottest day in records check yourself yes it wos liverpool that was the hottest also wot do you think bout 4 players 26-31 100 will happen

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09 Dec 2010 23:48:06
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NESV should buy neymar! Editor what do you think {ed's note - I have not seen enough of him to judge him, but one of the other editors tells me he is top class.}

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09 Dec 2010 23:42:05
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Ed manchester is not hotter as liverpool as bin the hottest place in england the past week due to the hot air from the sea so dn't nw were you getin your info from as i got myne of (are) fred, itv, ch4, bbc1, 2, so . . . . . there that covered liverpool will sign 4 players between 26-31 dec this is a certainty as i am stayin in the same hotel as thomas warner and heard him on the phone an ask him wot he sed wen he got off it he jst smiled an sed;you'll never walk alone; an then went into his room so wot do you think ed? {ed's note - I think you are talking rubbish, pure fantasy and I don't care what Fred etc say, during the summer Liverpool is colder.}

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09 Dec 2010 23:26:17
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I like everyone enjoy speculating on the forthcoming transfer window but can people please stop suggesting the following as they are fowl, awful and talentless footballers unworthy of the red shirt. Ashley Young, Charles N'Zogbia, Roger Johnson, Scott Dann, Matthew Etherington, Adil Rami, Rod Fanni, Mario Gomez, Luis Suarez and ofcourse Carlton Cole. I watch lots of football and refuse to believe that dross is what people believe we Liverpool Football club would be interested in. I think Comolli will get in a few kids, Woy won't pick em, and that'll get him fired in the summer.

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09 Dec 2010 23:10:34
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Ed- who would be your first choice if Roy was to go? {ed's note - I am not sure mate, probably between Di Matteo, O'Driscoll and Laudrup, but I would want to interview them to choose one.}

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09 Dec 2010 23:05:00
09 Dec 2010 22:26:05
Our defence needs tightening up mainly in wide positions were we are vulnerable but CM looks solid with Raul and Lucas so why not move SG to partner SG and sign honda for wide in Jan and that should see us command a CL place at the end of the season.

If you make too many changes not always a wise move with players expected to fit in right away then we should look to rebuild star by star and build our squad up

TC

the defence can be sorted with putting kelly in RB and pushing johnson up, , and the left well that will have to wait till summer i think, , as for SG WITH SG i didn't know we had 2 steven gerrards ha , , anyway i know u meant torres, , but gerrards best letting him free and do what he wants, i do agree with honda we need to buy him, , and we need a big strong striker to assist torres someone like hulk. .ill be happy in feb if we have honda and striker with the size and talent as hulk. what u reckon

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09 Dec 2010 22:56:55
Ed, you said on down the page rafa had to take someone out of training because he wasn't strong enough {ed's note - no he left him out of the first team because he wasn't strong enough, Aqualani.}

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09 Dec 2010 22:46:20
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Has anyone been on the Wish Lists page recently?
It's infected with a load of 7 year old fantasizing boys who can't spell. .?!

An Example of this :

Liverpool Teem Afther 2011 :
Rieana
Dany Alves - Carager - Sketrle - Konheskey
Aculiani Lukas Rual Mareles Serjyo Buscets
Torrez Suares

yes, someone thought Sergio Busquets was a left midfielder?. .

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09 Dec 2010 22:39:54
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Personally, I don't think we need a CB, such as Rami.
I can see Kyriakos getting a starting place soon, with Carra back in 3 months to partner Soto.

If Johnson does leave, Fanni isn't coming 1) He is going to Marseille 2) We have Martin Kelly - Englands future RB. 3)His name is ridiculous.

Konchesky, is terrible. I think we should take an experienced 2nd choice on loan for the rest of the season from Europe, someone like Davide Santon, who has played Champions League football, but doesn't always start. Rafa could do us a favour, for once perhaps?

Lucas, Gerrard, Meireles and Poulsen seem to be slotting together quite nicely now, with Jay Spearing, in my opinion, not good enough?

Kuyt, Gerrard, Cole, Jovanovic, Babel, Torres, Ngog, are the main attacking players. Something I find ridiculous though, is that Mr. Jonjo Shelvey (Konchesky's twin?!) is favoured over spains future star, Danii Pacheco! Eden Hazard would be a brilliant buy! - hope we get him, Llorente or Keisuke Honda?

Jamseyboy x

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09 Dec 2010 22:32:40
{ed's note - I have been told that he just loves to be controversial and is a complete and utter a* ehole.}

yeah he must love to be controversial, and he is definitly and a* ehole

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09 Dec 2010 22:26:05
Our defence needs tightening up mainly in wide positions were we are vulnerable but CM looks solid with Raul and Lucas so why not move SG to partner SG and sign honda for wide in Jan and that should see us command a CL place at the end of the season.

If you make too many changes not always a wise move with players expected to fit in right away then we should look to rebuild star by star and build our squad up

TC

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09 Dec 2010 22:25:15
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To the editor,

i've just seen an article by a columnist called alex beam, and we liverpool fans r disgusted with a paragraph he says, , "None of those sane people are in Liverpool, however. Even by the deranged standards of European soccer, Red fans are totally bonkers. Their excitable Internet fan sites are still agonizing over a 21-year-old soccer riot that killed 96 people."

now this is well and truly out of order and something needs to be done, we want a full apology from this idiot or you must fire him, he calls us insane by saying none of those sane people are in liverpool, he calls our football deranged, he calls us fans bonkers, those i could forgive but then to talk about a tragedy with such ignorance, and no ounce of compassion, he quotes hillsborough as a "riot" this man needs educating, hillsborough was innocent fans on a day out to watch a game of the most beautiful sport in the world, and were crushed to death, by one another because of lack of room on the stand and exits, and because of disorganisation from the authorities, and staff of the grounds, , people died lying on the pitch because emergency services wasnt given permission from the police to get to these people, it wasnt due to rioting and fighting, 96 people died young and old, kids died that day, and as for agonizing over it, that day will never be forgotten, those lives don't deserve to be forgotten, no justice has been done yet for what happened that day no one has been made accountable for that day, , liverpool fans and the families of those lost will not stop agonizing over it untill justice has been done, , and even then that day will not be forgotten, a player of liverpool fc, steven gerrard his cousin was killed that day.

please we ask you to sort this idiot alex beam out,

many thanks for taking the time to read my email,

david tinsley

this is my email to the editor of boston globe, , wanted to say my piece.
i have only just seen what this guy had said and was sickened by it,

daveynwa {ed's note - I have been told that he just loves to be controversial and is a complete and utter a**ehole.}

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09 Dec 2010 22:24:42
Ed, how was that rafa let out of training I must have missed that, sorry {ed's note - I am sorry, I don't understand the question.}

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09 Dec 2010 22:08:31
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09 Dec 2010 22:04:26
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What is your opinion on either Roger Johnson or Scott Dann coming to Liverpool?

Ed thoughts? {ed's note - I don't think either are good enough on the ball to make them worth buying, we need to move away from hoofers at the back.}

So we'll not be signing any defender with the surname Dyson then.

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09 Dec 2010 21:57:15
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Great to see things seem to be coming together with the club, 4 wins in a row at home, the owners liasing with the fans, (with our "terrible start", we're only 4 points behind everyones favourite Tottenham)and Hodgson finally putting on a decent press conference.
I was one of the people doubting Roy's abilities, but it is nice to see us playing without a holding midfieler at home, something i doubt we would ever have seen under Rafa. If we can address our dreadful away record, we would be well in contention for a top4 place.
Some of the names we have been linked with recently also give a sense of things moving forward, Keisuke Honda, Yann M'Vila, Eden Hazard etc are all players who could improve us.
Seen today we were linked with Ashley Young, Luis Suarez, and Ronaldinho. If we could sign Young and Suarez - it would be a real show of strength by the owners.
Young's price quoted at £15m (Milner was £30m) - but for a English player with ability, who could add a new dimension to our wing play, adding to our homegrown list at the same time. With 18months to run on his contract, if we could sign him for a price between £10-15m - I would press ahead with a deal.
Luis Suarez would also be fantastic for us, last season he got a goal a game (albeit in the Dutch league) but apart from his handball vs Ghana, was a player who showed real quality. A goalscorer, and creator - could form a great partnership with Torres. We would face huge competition for him though.
Ronaldinho - if this was 5 years ago i would be bouncing around the room, but at 30yrs old, well past his mercurial best. . add his 200k/ week wages, its a non-starter.

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09 Dec 2010 21:56:32
09 Dec 2010 21:47:31
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We agreed a €20M fee with Roma.

The 20 million EURO transfer fee is broken up into the following:

- 4 cash instalments of
- - 5 million EURO upfront
- - 3 million EURO by 4th January 2010
- - 7 million EURO by June 30th 2010
- - 5 million EURO by June 30th 2011.

Further Add ons include:

- 300,000 EURO for every year Liverpool qualify for the Champions League from 2010/ 11 to 2014/ 15

- 250,000 EURO everytime the player reaches 35 appearancs, 70 appearances, 105 appeances and then 140 appearances.

- 1 million EURO the first time Liverpool either wins the Premier League or Champions League by 30 June 2014.

- 5% of any future transfer fee will be paid to Roma.

u been playing to much football manager ha ha {ed's note - no mate, Liverpool's accounts are published online and this is taken from that. It was posted on Empire of the Kop a while ago as well.} i didn't know lol, , , why they publishing there finances online, i thought they wanted everything in house not public {ed's note - all companies have to give accounts, how else do the HMRC know how much tax to charge?}

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09 Dec 2010 21:51:49
09 Dec 2010 21:44:54
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Wheres that nob head from the other day who said ''I brought you the news about Ronaldihno'' SHUT UP YOU DONT KNOW A THING STOP READING PAPERS OR WEBSITES THEN POSTING IT ON HERE PRETENDING YOU HAVE SOURCES, YOU DONT KNOW ANY ONE OR HAVE ANY CONNECTIONS WITHIN LIVERPOOL, People need to stop coming on this site posting rumours they just read in the paper or heard on sky sports thinking there the first to the news because its becoming a bad joke, Every one just wait to see who we sign in jan instead of saying that You over heard a phone call of John Henry and he was on the phone to such n suchs agent because you seriously starting to embarres your self.
I like this site and the true transfer talk and the banter on this site but some people take this beyond a joke.
Sort it out ed! Doubt this will get posted like but ahh well! {ed's note - surely the whole point is for them to post up the rumours they have heard? Though I agree on the pretending to be revealing something from a source when they just read it in a paper.}

what about them who actually do have sources and actually do have real info, , ive seen people say something on here that's not yet been in the papers and news and has been right its happened, , people seem to think that everyones a liar lol, , true most do talk out there ass but there is a few on here who do actually talk the truth, , so before u come on here and judge ppl and call them nob heads, think first not everyone on this planet lies

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09 Dec 2010 21:47:31
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We agreed a €20M fee with Roma.

The 20 million EURO transfer fee is broken up into the following:

- 4 cash instalments of
- - 5 million EURO upfront
- - 3 million EURO by 4th January 2010
- - 7 million EURO by June 30th 2010
- - 5 million EURO by June 30th 2011.

Further Add ons include:

- 300,000 EURO for every year Liverpool qualify for the Champions League from 2010/ 11 to 2014/ 15

- 250,000 EURO everytime the player reaches 35 appearancs, 70 appearances, 105 appeances and then 140 appearances.

- 1 million EURO the first time Liverpool either wins the Premier League or Champions League by 30 June 2014.

- 5% of any future transfer fee will be paid to Roma.

u been playing to much football manager ha ha {ed's note - no mate, Liverpool's accounts are published online and this is taken from that. It was posted on Empire of the Kop a while ago as well.}

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09 Dec 2010 21:46:10
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09 Dec 2010 21:29:01
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09 Dec 2010 12:26:50
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Another reason why this won't happen is Juve have first refusal on Aquilani and the form he has been showing makes him a cert to be a Juve player. But only in the summer. And it will only cost them £12m.

MUSHROOM

if liverpool want to keep him at the end of the season after the loan then they don't have to sell him to juventus its not a cert that he will go to juventus liverpool still might say were keeping him

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09 Dec 2010 21:44:54
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Wheres that nob head from the other day who said ''I brought you the news about Ronaldihno'' SHUT UP YOU DONT KNOW A THING STOP READING PAPERS OR WEBSITES THEN POSTING IT ON HERE PRETENDING YOU HAVE SOURCES, YOU DONT KNOW ANY ONE OR HAVE ANY CONNECTIONS WITHIN LIVERPOOL, People need to stop coming on this site posting rumours they just read in the paper or heard on sky sports thinking there the first to the news because its becoming a bad joke, Every one just wait to see who we sign in jan instead of saying that You over heard a phone call of John Henry and he was on the phone to such n suchs agent because you seriously starting to embarres your self.
I like this site and the true transfer talk and the banter on this site but some people take this beyond a joke.
Sort it out ed! Doubt this will get posted like but ahh well! {ed's note - surely the whole point is for them to post up the rumours they have heard? Though I agree on the pretending to be revealing something from a source when they just read it in a paper.}

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09 Dec 2010 21:42:21
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Last night the boston red sox bought a young baseballer on a five year contract for 146 million dollars, NESV are not scared about spending money in large amounts as long as it is an adverse risk, this is where damien comolli has been brought in to help, there won't be any ronaldinho type signings, i would be very suprised, excited but suprised to see aguero, more likely to be the likes of ashley young, mahmadou sakho, coutinho, and rely on youth much more as they are integrrated slowly into the team by hodgson who im also predicting most people will be changing opinion on as the ship isn't rocking as much now

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09 Dec 2010 21:35:39
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Pepole are asking if NESV are the right owners. firstly they are a very weathy buisness with the best pepole in place, john henry aint gunna tell roy who to buy and sell. secondly they carnt actully sign anybody untill jan so lets all stop gettin carried away. and lastly at this moment in time i think the team are starting to play so 1 or 2 quality players would do for champions leauge football next season

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09 Dec 2010 21:33:13
09 Dec 2010 21:19:12
09 Dec 2010 20:46:47
Do people think NESV are the right owners, they don't seem to be splashing the cash why our rivals are buying decent players unlike us we seem to sell our good players and buy rubbish

My mind is not what is used to be. Could you please give me a list of the good players we have sold and the rubbish we have bought since NESV have came in.
EST.1892
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Is this post for real, surely not, can't be, please no, oh my god. {ed's note - it is two posts mate, the bottom bit was a reply to the top paragraph.}

lol nesv havent bought or sold anyone since being at the club idiot they didn't buy till october out of the transfer window, tell u one thing that has happened is they paid off r crippling debt that already shows me they r better owners weve had

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09 Dec 2010 21:19:12
09 Dec 2010 20:46:47
Do people think NESV are the right owners, they don't seem to be splashing the cash why our rivals are buying decent players unlike us we seem to sell our good players and buy rubbish

My mind is not what is used to be. Could you please give me a list of the good players we have sold and the rubbish we have bought since NESV have came in.
EST.1892
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Is this post for real, surely not, cant be, please no, oh my god. {ed's note - it is two posts mate, the bottom bit was a reply to the top paragraph.}

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09 Dec 2010 21:17:21
I still think your argument about suarez is a little thin .what i gather is you wouldn't want shrek cause of his bookings
ngs77 {ed's note - I wouldn't want him because of his temperament and the fact that he is extremely over rated. He was a better player when he was at Everton and scoring from range as well as close in. Can you remember the last time he scored from the edge of the box?}

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09 Dec 2010 21:15:26
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"Didnt he say say something similar about Joe Cole?"

Yes, and he also referred to Joe as Carlton when talking about Joe's injury, remember?

"{Editor's Note: Secret messages then?}"

Exactly, Ed!

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09 Dec 2010 21:13:48
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We need to try and sign as bestquality players as we can in JANUARY! In the summer we may not hav champs league (again) and have no chance of tempting top stars. Think about it. if in jan we say to a player come and helpus push for champions league, after missing out for a season, they may come. But if we come knocking in the summer with no champions league and star players wanting out, being out of the chmaps league for consectutive seasons, will not help us get top stars!

We need to act fast!

E.H LFC

Aggree agree we can talk about re-building later i've been a red fan since 91! my dad never shut ups about the 70's and 80's i just want to experience what that was like i loved the houllier era so brilliant and beating man utd in the 06 FA cup was great i really rate that lad honda and i would love to play kelly in CB who cares if hes young vs chelsea and wigan he was class? soto isn't that great. ? kelly can shoot too gonna be big that kid i wouldn't mind having gerrard upfront i think it would be a huge step back if we dropped or changed the raul and lucas partnership gerrard is the best midfielder of the decade ( biased but im a liverpool fan who cares ) but he can add either width or play him behind or next to fernando why not? he can shoot better than our strikers at the moment.
really please for the side
YWNA.

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09 Dec 2010 21:10:30
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Ed i posted earlier about suarez and you said his was too volatile and would be targeted by opponents and suspended alot . over the last 3 season his record is
07/ 08 y=7 r=0
08/ 09 y=9 r=0
09/ 10 y=5 r=0
compared to w*yne r* ney a player of undoubted quality
07/ 08 y=8 r=0
08/ 09 y=13 r=1
09/ 10 y=11 r=0
most managers would still want him in their team
i seriously think suarez is ready for the big stage of the prem and is a top quality player
ngs77 {ed's note - Rooney gets far too many bookings for my liking for a forward. Suarez has ability but he is more volatile than even Shrek.}

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09 Dec 2010 21:08:00
Hodgson was responsible for signing Meireles and he made this signing under very tight finiancial constraints"

Meireles was not a Roy target , the opportunity to sign him presented it self to Purlslow through the mascherano deal , I would imagine Purslow consulted Roy . Not sure if Roy knew much about him .
The only signings of Roy are Knochesky and Poulsen . I am not picking on the man, but these are the facts .

I don't want to start anything, but I remember reading about Hodgson walking us through the Meireles deal. He talked about how he had heard about Meireles being available through a contact. Also, when Meireles arrived, he talked about how Roy had convinced him to join Liverpool. Anyhow, at this level it is hard for someone on the outside to know who is resposible for what.

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09 Dec 2010 21:04:37
09 Dec 2010 20:42:12
Is it just me and my childish humour that thinks the headline of the year is "Deschamps hopeful for Fanni"?

My candidate is:

''Liverpool seek to replace Johnson by Fanni''

Mine is:

"Liverpool hopeful on signing Ronaldinho"

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09 Dec 2010 20:59:21
You should really separate your posts with - - - - or something as you read this it just looks like you wrote all of it by the way i sent a reply to this calling you dopey so i apologize for that but please separate the posts better

tazz YNWA

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No probs. Apology excepted
EST.1892

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09 Dec 2010 20:57:44
I did read the original post. So how is anyone meant to know he's being sarcastic? {ed's note - because it is clear from the original post and it's stupidity, clearly you didn't read the original post on its own and just saw the one with his added on bit.}
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I see what you mean now. I didn't realise without anyone putting lines or anything in to show that they were two seperate posts. {ed's note - no worries, that is what I was trying to point out, though not very well I realise.}

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09 Dec 2010 20:54:23
I don't know if anyone posted this earlier, but NESV have signed another big time baseball player to a multi-year contract yesterday. That's two in a week. Red Sox nation is going crazy. I think these guys are for real and I can't wait for January. Happy days are here again.
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I wouldn't expect anything major in January anyway mate. Henry said the main business will be in the Summer.

But I hope they spend as much money with us as they're spending at the Red Sox. I mean, I've seen them giving players contracts worth over $100m. Thats £63m+ they're spending on player contracts and the like. So for us, that could be a £30m player on say £100,000 per week for about 6 years. - I'm not saying we'll do that kind of business, but I hope we see two or three big signings in the next two or three years.


I know what he said, but I don't believe he is going to wait until the summer to make a splash. The January market is perhaps a tad less crowded. I think that if a major deal is to be done, they will pull the trigger regardless of what they announced.
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I think if a good deal comes up, he'll give it the go ahead. But obviously I agree with what you said above.

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09 Dec 2010 20:54:17
I hate to break it to you, but people don't have mind-reading abilities.

You did a crap job of sounding sarcastic. {ed's note - no he didn't if you had read the original post you would have understood.}

Thanks for backing me up ed, otherwise this arguement could of gone on for a while.
EST.1892 {ed's note - well it was clear from the original post's stupidity that you were being sarcastic, easy mistake to make if you haven't read it though I guess. Maybe you should do what Sharkey does and highlight what you are commenting on? Makes it easier for all of us then!}

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09 Dec 2010 20:50:54
I hate to break it to you, but people don't have mind-reading abilities.

You did a crap job of sounding sarcastic. {ed's note - no he didn't if you had read the original post you would have understood.}
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I did read the original post. So how is anyone meant to know he's being sarcastic? {ed's note - because it is clear from the original post and it's stupidity, clearly you didn't read the original post on its own and just saw the one with his added on bit.}

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09 Dec 2010 20:50:31
"Hodgson was responsible for signing Meireles and he made this signing under very tight finiancial constraints"

Meireles was not a Roy target , the opportunity to sign him presented it self to Purlslow through the mascherano deal , I would imagine Purslow consulted Roy . Not sure if Roy knew much about him .
The only signings of Roy are Knochesky and Poulsen . I am not picking on the man, but these are the facts .

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09 Dec 2010 20:49:33
I don't know if anyone posted this earlier, but NESV have signed another big time baseball player to a multi-year contract yesterday. That's two in a week. Red Sox nation is going crazy. I think these guys are for real and I can't wait for January. Happy days are here again.
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I wouldn't expect anything major in January anyway mate. Henry said the main business will be in the Summer.

But I hope they spend as much money with us as they're spending at the Red Sox. I mean, I've seen them giving players contracts worth over $100m. Thats £63m+ they're spending on player contracts and the like. So for us, that could be a £30m player on say £100,000 per week for about 6 years. - I'm not saying we'll do that kind of business, but I hope we see two or three big signings in the next two or three years.


I know what he said, but I don't believe he is going to wait until the summer to make a splash. The January market is perhaps a tad less crowded. I think that if a major deal is to be done, they will pull the trigger regardless of what they announced.

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09 Dec 2010 20:49:21
Do people think NESV are the right owners, they don't seem to be splashing the cash why our rivals are buying decent players unlike us we seem to sell our good players and buy rubbish

My mind is not what is used to be. Could you please give me a list of the good players we have sold and the rubbish we have bought since NESV have came in.
EST.1892


you should really separate your posts with - - - - or something as you read this it just looks like you wrote all of it by the way i sent a reply to this calling you dopey so i apologize for that but please separate the posts better

tazz YNWA

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09 Dec 2010 20:46:47
Do people think NESV are the right owners, they don't seem to be splashing the cash why our rivals are buying decent players unlike us we seem to sell our good players and buy rubbish

My mind is not what is used to be. Could you please give me a list of the good players we have sold and the rubbish we have bought since NESV have came in.
EST.1892
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I really can't believe I've just read that.

The only thing credible from what you wrote is the part where you wrote "My mind is not what it used to be".


Not sure who I am speaking to as there is not a name at the end of your statement but if you take the time to read my comment properly you will realise that I am being sarcastic to the original post. Please read and understand what people have wrote before making stupid comments. Unless of course you are the original poster, in which case just go back to your Manc site where you belong
EST.1892
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I hate to break it to you, but people don't have mind-reading abilities.

You did a crap job of sounding sarcastic. {ed's note - no he didn't if you had read the original post you would have understood.}

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09 Dec 2010 20:44:52
Do people think NESV are the right owners, they don't seem to be splashing the cash why our rivals are buying decent players unlike us we seem to sell our good players and buy rubbish

My mind is not what is used to be. Could you please give me a list of the good players we have sold and the rubbish we have bought since NESV have came in.
EST.1892

wake up dopey how can they sign players?

what a stupid post go back to sleep

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09 Dec 2010 20:42:12
Is it just me and my childish humour that thinks the headline of the year is "Deschamps hopeful for Fanni"?

My candidate is:

''Liverpool seek to replace Johnson by Fanni''

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09 Dec 2010 20:40:10
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Ed , what do you think of the other posts of people saying that they don't want luis suarez to sign cause he cheated in the world cup against ghana . i think he is a top player and will only get better if he joins a team in the prem (hopefully liverpool) i thinks these people should think of the greater good . not every single player that was played for liverpool has been whiter than white and should get over themselves with their holier than thou attitude.
3 players i'd like to see sign for liverpool by the start of next season.
luis suarez
honda
podolski {ed's note - I don't want Suarez, he is far too volatile for my liking and would be targeted by opponents. I can see him spending half a season on the sidelines through suspension.}

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09 Dec 2010 20:39:52
Do people think NESV are the right owners, they don't seem to be splashing the cash why our rivals are buying decent players unlike us we seem to sell our good players and buy rubbish

My mind is not what is used to be. Could you please give me a list of the good players we have sold and the rubbish we have bought since NESV have came in.
EST.1892
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I really can't believe I've just read that.

The only thing credible from what you wrote is the part where you wrote "My mind is not what it used to be".


Not sure who I am speaking to as there is not a name at the end of your statement but if you take the time to read my comment properly you will realise that I am being sarcastic to the original post. Please read and understand what people have wrote before making stupid comments. Unless of course you are the original poster, in which case just go back to your Manc site where you belong
EST.1892

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09 Dec 2010 20:35:56
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{ed's note - I am just going by what I was told about him, he was not seen as a brave lad in training, hence why Rafa left him out so much.}


fair point, if that is what is being shown in training then you can see why a manager would be unsure.
could also be that after long standing injuries to one particular ankle, that yeah, . . maybe he was a little scared to get stuck in. much like owen after the hamstring injury, was nervous to sprint all out and lost half a yard of pace. . . the half a yard that gave him the advantage.
do you think he will play for us again? {ed's note - no mate, I think Rafa made a huge mistake with the lad, but he was about all he could get on the never-never.}

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09 Dec 2010 20:35:49
I don't know if anyone posted this earlier, but NESV have signed another big time baseball player to a multi-year contract yesterday. That's two in a week. Red Sox nation is going crazy. I think these guys are for real and I can't wait for January. Happy days are here again.
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I wouldn't expect anything major in January anyway mate. Henry said the main business will be in the Summer.

But I hope they spend as much money with us as they're spending at the Red Sox. I mean, I've seen them giving players contracts worth over $100m. Thats £63m+ they're spending on player contracts and the like. So for us, that could be a £30m player on say £100,000 per week for about 6 years. - I'm not saying we'll do that kind of business, but I hope we see two or three big signings in the next two or three years.

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09 Dec 2010 20:28:43
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Do people think NESV are the right owners, they don't seem to be splashing the cash why our rivals are buying decent players unlike us we seem to sell our good players and buy rubbish

My mind is not what is used to be. Could you please give me a list of the good players we have sold and the rubbish we have bought since NESV have came in.
EST.1892


is this guy for real?? ?

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09 Dec 2010 20:27:41
I don't know if anyone posted this earlier, but NESV have signed another big time baseball player to a multi-year contract yesterday. That's two in a week. Red Sox nation is going crazy. I think these guys are for real and I can't wait for January. Happy days are here again.

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09 Dec 2010 20:26:24
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{ed's note - I don't think he is mentally strong enough for the English leagues. In the Prem you know creative players get rough treatment and they need to be mentally able to cope with it. I am not sure he is able to cope.}


find that hard to accept after only a handfull of games. players , like managers should not be judged after ten games.
i can't be sure of his mind set as i don't no him, but as time went on and with games under his belt surely his confidence would have grown ed? {ed's note - I am just going by what I was told about him, he was not seen as a brave lad in training, hence why Rafa left him out so much.}

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09 Dec 2010 20:23:06
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"John henry in zeligs. Tonight mm. With two others jan trans discussions"

Struggle to read that never mind understand it
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I think it means. John Henry is in a place called Zeligs tonight with 2 guests. Hmmm? January transfer discussions perhaps?

Tho I may well be very wrong on my desiphering.

ItsNotRocketScience

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09 Dec 2010 20:22:51
Do people think NESV are the right owners, they don't seem to be splashing the cash why our rivals are buying decent players unlike us we seem to sell our good players and buy rubbish

My mind is not what is used to be. Could you please give me a list of the good players we have sold and the rubbish we have bought since NESV have came in.
EST.1892
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I really can't believe I've just read that.

The only thing credible from what you wrote is the part where you wrote "My mind is not what it used to be".

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09 Dec 2010 20:21:26
My argument is; that do the LFC fans that express their critisism of Hodgsons management on this website realise that Hodgson was responsible for signing Meireles and he made this signing under very tight finiancial constraints.
If LFC did not sign Meireles then the problems of last season would still be very much effecting LFC now.

Hodgson deserves credit and should be kept at least till the end of the season.
He should also be given charge of some of the new signings LFC make.

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roy did make a good signing of merieles but i think where your statement is slightly flawed is that after buying a quality central midfielder he plays him on the right hand side he is only playing in the centre now because gerrard is injured now we see what sort of player merelies really is.

my problem is when gerrard comes back what happens most probably roy sticks merieles back on the right gerrard in the middle.

for me and only my opinion roy has to play them and lucas as a midfield 3 or put gerrard on the right

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09 Dec 2010 20:15:05
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09 Dec 2010 13:45:17
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My 2 cents on the aqua situation

I was gutted when he was loaned but i think i see what they're trying. aqua was not adjusting to the english game and could not cope with the physicality of the league. if was sold immediately we wouldn't get any money for him. this way his wages for a year are paid by juve and hes sold in the end for a good fee as he is performing in italy.

dont expect him returning to liverpool bad bad buy on rafas part

how can any one be sure that aqua man was a bad buy. . he was never given a chance.
and of course he was unhappy, the kid was injured for most of his debut season, and the pressure the media put on him to be the man to kick start our season off when he came back from injury was immense, everybody, including the fans were maybe expecting a little to much, from a lad coming back from a serious injury and coming from the slowest league in the world to the fastest most physical one, he must of been bricking it that his ankle was gonna be injured every time someone shouted "man on".
towards the end of last season he started to show his ability, and to consider going into the transfer market in jan or the summer for a creative midfielder would be madness when we have one of the best in italy already on the books.
would much rather him coming on than poulsen.
whats your thoughts on aqualani ed? {ed's note - I don't think he is mentally strong enough for the English leagues. In the Prem you know creative players get rough treatment and they need to be mentally able to cope with it. I am not sure he is able to cope.}

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09 Dec 2010 20:13:07
Lets not all start getting excited about Roy after moday nights result.we played a depleted villa squad at home.the pluadits should only start to ring in when we have put in a string of away wins against better oponants.

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09 Dec 2010 20:07:11
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Crawford agreed to a 7 year, $142 million contract with the Boston Red Sox on dec 8 don't watch to much baseball but he is suppose to be one of the best


i think this goes to show that if nesv want to splash the cash they will when it is appropriate to do so

that is why we will not have a transfer kitty they will look at it on each player that comolli recommends

i honestly think if they want to buy a 30 mil player they would go for it if it is for the good of the club they do spend big in baseball when they have to and when they need to it will be the same at liverpool

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09 Dec 2010 20:04:12
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Every LFC fan has been impressed by Raul Meireles. There is no doubt that he has become an important player for LFC and will play an important role for us this season.
The signing of Meireles has provided LFC with a dynamic imputence in midfield that was lost last season when Xabi Alonso was sold.

My argument is; that do the LFC fans that express their critisism of Hodgsons management on this website realise that Hodgson was responsible for signing Meireles and he made this signing under very tight finiancial constraints.
If LFC did not sign Meireles then the problems of last season would still be very much effecting LFC now.

Hodgson deserves credit and should be kept at least till the end of the season.
He should also be given charge of some of the new signings LFC make.

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09 Dec 2010 19:56:14
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We need to try and sign as bestquality players as we can in JANUARY! In the summer we may not hav champs league (again) and have no chance of tempting top stars. Think about it. if in jan we say to a player come and helpus push for champions league, after missing out for a season, they may come. But if we come knocking in the summer with no champions league and star players wanting out, being out of the chmaps league for consectutive seasons, will not help us get top stars!

We need to act fast!

E.H LFC

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09 Dec 2010 19:47:56
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Sounds like RH has given a sensible interview for a change. Maybe he is learning.

- - Agree with you. Did you see his interview after the Villa game in Skysports?(Go see it) He is obviously learned, and knows football very well. He is now learning the Liverpool way. Now a run of decent games and we fan should start chanting his name. I am a bit disappointed that we havent chanted his name once so far (a bit harsh don't you thnik? We chanted Dalglish and Houllier's names while he was in the dugout but not his once! ). We should to show our support. Got any Chant for him? (Ed do you know any chant or song we made for Roy?) {ed's note - not heard of any mate, but I am not good at remembering songs or chants.}

or "he gets confused and has'nt got a clue but at least he not Alan Pardew"

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09 Dec 2010 19:44:33
Sounds like RH has given a sensible interview for a change. Maybe he is learning.

- - Agree with you. Did you see his interview after the Villa game in Skysports?(Go see it) He is obviously learned, and knows football very well. He is now learning the Liverpool way. Now a run of decent games and we fan should start chanting his name. I am a bit disappointed that we havent chanted his name once so far (a bit harsh don't you thnik? We chanted Dalglish and Houllier's names while he was in the dugout but not his once! ). We should to show our support. Got any Chant for him? (Ed do you know any chant or song we made for Roy?) {ed's note - not heard of any mate, but I am not good at remembering songs or chants.}

how about "he's old it's fated he'l get us relegated stupid boy dementia roy"

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09 Dec 2010 19:32:35
I can see us signing a load of rubbish players and none that are good enough for our team we are getting worse {ed's note - how can you see it? Do you have a working crystal ball or something?}


I see the Mancs or Evertonians are bored again.
EST.1892

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09 Dec 2010 19:25:04
Eds right nesv haven't been in charge in a transfer window so let's just see what happens, but also I wouldn't expect to much in jan. So I think its safe to wait till after summer then judge. Just because there not saying were going to buy such a body for stupid money doesn't mean there not going to do us proud. Henry said something when he took over which I can't remember promise little achieve more something along them lines

LAVERS

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09 Dec 2010 19:25:00
I can see us signing a load of rubbish players and none that are good enough for our team we are getting worse {ed's note - how can you see it? Do you have a working crystal ball or something?}

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09 Dec 2010 19:24:07
Do people think NESV are the right owners, they don't seem to be splashing the cash why our rivals are buying decent players unlike us we seem to sell our good players and buy rubbish

My mind is not what is used to be. Could you please give me a list of the good players we have sold and the rubbish we have bought since NESV have came in.
EST.1892

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09 Dec 2010 19:03:07
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Do people think NESV are the right owners, they don't seem to be splashing the cash why our rivals are buying decent players unlike us we seem to sell our good players and buy rubbish {ed's note - you do realise they haven't even been in charge during a transfer window to buy or sell anyone don't you?}

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09 Dec 2010 18:51:16
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Hodgson saying he's never thought of Suarez or Ronaldinho ha! I remember him saying the same about Joe Cole , Roy: "I don't know what it means when betting is suspended" , an then bang there he was signing for Liverpool , don't want Suarez by the way CHEAT! is all i have to say

Danny D
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Should we sell Gerrard and Torres then? Since they've cheated in the past? You don't want Suarez at the club for that reason - or is it a case of double-standards?

Lets hope we don't make a move for Messi, I'm sure you'll strongly object.

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09 Dec 2010 18:50:49
The person asked for your opinion, not anyone else's. you did not even give him the respect to answer his question. As you have stated you take your time out to reply to our post. So in respect should treat every post as a new one. I can count the amount of cases I have received that are very similar but nevertheless I still treat all my clients as individuals. {ed's note - and his opinion was given, if you have no sense of humour and find sarcasm a problem I am sorry but I have no sympathy for you.}

Whoever you are, what gives you the right to judge the Ed's, who provide 99.9% of us with lots of entertainment and insight, giving their time gratis.
If you don't like this website, go set up your own website and stick to that, and stop annoying the rest of us with your foolishness.

Daveevad

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09 Dec 2010 18:47:11
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NESV's principal figures John Henry and Tom Werner are on Merseyside at the current time, and Hodgson admitted he was impressed by their plans, opting to focus on bringing through young talent rather than a quick fix.

"We have got new owners who are working unbelievably hard and putting in enormous hours at the club, both here physically, as they are at the moment, and even when they are in America spending hours studying games and liaising with us here, " he added.

"They are very interested in pushing the club forward but they want to push it forward in the right way.

"I have been impressed with their thoughts when we have discussed the squad, players and transfers.

"But at the moment we haven't got to the stage where we have sat down and said we are going to do this or that - that will certainly feature in our discussions while John and Tom are in the country.

"Going out and splashing a load of money on players who may or may not be the ones for us in the future might not just be the right way.

"We might need to be more logical and certainly do a lot more research and have an approach which not just takes in four months of 2011 but also takes into account 2011 through 2015 to bring this club back up to where it wants to be.

"I don't think we are alone in that situation, I think clubs in the Premier League are being pushed by fans and mass media to go out and splash money.

"But, with the notable exception of Manchester City, most others have a slightly different approach and I don't see why we should be any different to that."

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09 Dec 2010 18:41:26
Is Suarez really that good? Ive never seen him play for Ajax, ive only seen him in the world cup, and it was more about the high profile cheating then his actual ability.

I don't think we need a striker. David Ngog is starting to play well, and links up well with Torres. If we are playing 442 then we have Nathan as cover, and I would actually give Gerrard a run as a striker. Id love to see that. Id say he'd be a thirty goal a season CF.

We also have Babel and Pacheco.

Id prefer to see us buy a left winger, and a right back, as I think Glen Johnson would be one of the best right wingers in Europe if given the chance. Look at Gareth Bale.

I don't rate Honda, I think he is rubbish.

Daveevad

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09 Dec 2010 18:36:55
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Ed, is that lad from Prague at melwood today?

{Editor's Note: Sorry - no idea.}

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09 Dec 2010 18:11:21
Is it just me and my childish humour that thinks the headline of the year is "Deschamps hopeful for Fanni"?

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09 Dec 2010 18:10:48
Read in the paper today bout a.young bein lined up by commoli

ed what are you thoughts mate? {ed's note - what paper was it in?}


the mirror mate

{Editor's Note: Got to be true then.}

The attitude of this Ed is despicable! People asking a genuine question on a genuine article and this Ed comes back with a patronizing answer. He/ She should be ashamed, treating genuine posters with such an attitude. You see many awful post with less attitude towards them. Why this one?

To the main Ed, Some of your colleagues need their heads wobbled. Great site for the people, but some Eds need to loose the attitudes. {ed's note - why? That was the whole reason I asked which paper it was in, people should look at where a story comes from and that should tell them all they need to know. Instead we get asked the same question 50 times a day by people who can't be bothered to read back through and see it was asked already. Then we get people like you coming on telling us we have a bad attitude when we are giving our time up to edit this site.

The person asked for your opinion, not anyone else's. you did not even give him the respect to answer his question. As you have stated you take your time out to reply to our post. So in respect should treat every post as a new one. I can count the amount of cases I have received that are very similar but nevertheless I still treat all my clients as individuals. {ed's note - and his opinion was given, if you have no sense of humour and find sarcasm a problem I am sorry but I have no sympathy for you.}

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09 Dec 2010 18:09:55
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Asgley Young linked! I pray to God we donot sign this lazy, over rated punk for 15m! We could investthatin muchbetter players than him (mata, banega, hulk, honda etc)

Ed? What do you think of him?

E.H LFC

{Editor's Note: I think he is over-priced.

I'm telling you i'd rather buy albrighton for ten million or more. he young has skill shows up in the big matches. we need players like that. thoughts ed?

True Red {ed's note - I would much prefer Albrighton, I don't rate Young at all.}

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09 Dec 2010 17:35:42
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Read in the paper today bout a.young bein lined up by commoli

ed what are you thoughts mate? {ed's note - what paper was it in?}


the mirror mate

{Editor's Note: Got to be true then.}

The attitude of this Ed is despicable! People asking a genuine question on a genuine article and this Ed comes back with a patronizing answer. He/ She should be ashamed, treating genuine posters with such an attitude. You see many awful post with less attitude towards them. Why this one?

To the main Ed, Some of your colleagues need their heads wobbled. Great site for the people, but some Eds need to loose the attitudes. {ed's note - why? That was the whole reason I asked which paper it was in, people should look at where a story comes from and that should tell them all they need to know. Instead we get asked the same question 50 times a day by people who can't be bothered to read back through and see it was asked already. Then we get people like you coming on telling us we have a bad attitude when we are giving our time up to edit this site.}

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09 Dec 2010 17:33:58
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Sounds like RH has given a sensible interview for a change. Maybe he is learning.

- - Agree with you. Did you see his interview after the Villa game in Skysports?(Go see it) He is obviously learned, and knows football very well. He is now learning the Liverpool way. Now a run of decent games and we fan should start chanting his name. I am a bit disappointed that we havent chanted his name once so far (a bit harsh don't you thnik? We chanted Dalglish and Houllier's names while he was in the dugout but not his once! ). We should to show our support. Got any Chant for him? (Ed do you know any chant or song we made for Roy?) {ed's note - not heard of any mate, but I am not good at remembering songs or chants.}

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09 Dec 2010 17:33:21
The whole Lucas situation is embarrassing. If any Liverpool fan still truely thinks he's sh*te, you're not worth standing shoulder to shoulder with. The lad has been brilliant for us this season - after years of abuse from Liverpool "fans". Many liverpool fan (including myself) have had there say on players over the years. but have backed everyone who goes out on the pitch. This recent lack of respect from fans is depressing. If a Mr Carragher was to come through our ranks now, our "fans" would simply say "he's not a Liverpool player". Carragher was average as a midfielder (to put it mildly) and all you "fans" who now have it as your right to know what a liverpool player is would have slated him at the game. Yet 450 games later. . Maybe the truth is I have it wrong. It could be that a "liverpool player" and "liverpool Fan" have both changed, and that I could be a bad fan who doesn't know a player. But in my era, I had the best of both worlds. Better fans and a better game. Memories of listening to the games outside the Kop waiting to get in at half time for £1.50 sound as tho I am years old, but I'm 34. So much has changed in the game and at LFC. Pity.

EPortRed
NOT ALL CHANGE
i don't agree mate im a fossil and i can remember ian callaghan getting stick from the "fans" at the end of his career for passing square, as everyone wanted him to fly down the right wing this was a player who had played over 800 games for the club, and it didn't stop the groans and moans, and in the 1980s kevin mcdonald come in for loads of stick from the "fans" you are correct in saying the prices have gone berserk, bob paisleys skids

Mate, I think you're missing my point slightly. . Callaghan had played over 800 games and was somebody given everything for Liverpool, and someone who had also got everything he had out of Liverpool. It was similar to when Barnes started playing in the middle. Not being able to do what we had come to expect due to his form at the start of his liverpool career. My point is we now have a tendency to kill players before they have a chance. Every player we sign must be an instant success or the fans will basically make them scapegoat for what is wrong with our form.

EPortRed

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09 Dec 2010 17:30:29
Try putting on posts off a mobile it isn't the easiest lol. Which is the bigger club inter or real? I don't think mourinho left because of an ageing thin squad. He left because like most people if real come knocking at your door you go simple as that.

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09 Dec 2010 17:14:57
I know when he decided to leave but when did he leave, which is what I said. And he didn't leave because of the state of the inter squad, he left cus he knew he was goin to Madrid. Read the post properly next time.
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No, you said he left after the Champions League and didn't indicate that you meant that. Although your poor literacy means it was quite hard to understand what you were saying.

If he decided to leave and agreed a deal with Real Madrid it isn't relevant whether he left after the Champions League victory or not. It was logical to see out the season with Inter and say farewell with the fans, especially as his contract didn't start until well after the season finished.

And you totally ignored my last post. I asked you why Mourinho decided to leave Inter Milan. It was obvious anyway, Moratti wasn't going to invest heavily in the ageing, thin squad and there was no way the success of the treble season could be sustained. Of course, Jose Mourinho didn't want to dent his ego and blamed the Italian media.

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09 Dec 2010 17:13:11
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Sounds like RH has given a sensible interview for a change. Maybe he is learning.

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09 Dec 2010 17:02:40
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Ed I read somewhere that Milan Jovanovic is on a £100k a week. Is that true?

{Editor's Note: I don't know the details of his contract but it is possible if his signing on fee was spread over the length of the contract.}

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09 Dec 2010 17:00:41
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Carlton cole, Ashley young, Gutierrez, Shawcross and Elmander? When did we turn into Fulham?

Llorente, Hazard, Honda, Mata, Sakho? More like it.

Which would you prefer Ed?

{Editor's Note: A couple from the second list.}

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09 Dec 2010 16:51:44
The so called liverpool fans who come on
here glad that rafa is having a hard time
hang your heads in shame . Why don't you go and support another team like the stum.
soul man.

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09 Dec 2010 16:49:13
I know when he decided to leave but when did he leave, which is what I said. And he didn't leave because of the state of the inter squad, he left cus he knew he was goin to Madrid. Read the post properly next time.

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09 Dec 2010 16:47:55
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Is n.eccleston a manc ?

ed? {ed's note - we got him from United, yes, no idea who he supports though.}

Sorry Ed, Was Bury mate. . United had him on tial and didn't want him!

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09 Dec 2010 16:46:27
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All the talk about glen johnson leaving. . did anyone think roy just wants to use him in a more attacking role and we just need a new right back to fight with kelly

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09 Dec 2010 16:41:41
Worth remembering Roy Hodgson is not only introducing new tactics to the LFC squad but also new training techniques and the sports science has been completely revamped incorporating advanced methods that all of the players have been getting accustomed to .

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09 Dec 2010 16:36:11
Roy Hodgson has confirmed Steven Gerrard will not be in contention for a place in the squad against Newcastle on Saturday - Gerrard will only be considered for the following game against Fulham . This will certainly enable Meireles and Lucas to continue in the midfield and mean as few changes as possible to the winning side , surely it will be a good result .

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09 Dec 2010 16:33:09
Mourinho left at the end of the season, well after champions league so could have only been 1or 2 games left if any. There's a halve a squad there that still have plenty to give. I named a few in my post further down, would u stop any of them joining us?
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Mourinho decided to leave Inter Milan weeks before the Champions League victory, and had already agreed to take over at Real Madrid before they won the Champions League. It is pretty well known that this was the situation. Perhaps some proper research in the future?

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09 Dec 2010 16:31:27
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Is Arguero name not kun Arguero because every1 calls him ken Arguero
ynwa
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09 Dec 2010 16:25:12
Mourinho left at the end of the season, well after champions league so could have only been 1or 2 games left if any. There's a halve a squad there that still have plenty to give. I named a few in my post further down, would u stop any of them joining us?

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09 Dec 2010 16:20:44
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Is n.eccleston a manc ?

ed? {ed's note - we got him from United, yes, no idea who he supports though.}
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Eccleston does or did support Man'ure. But in the summer the word was that Ferguson was interested in bringing him back and Nathen told him to h*ck off.

Blair Mayne YNWA

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09 Dec 2010 16:11:53
All these players that we r meant 2 be signing.what about the good young players we have got, like danny pacheco, eccleston and suso.

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09 Dec 2010 16:06:29
Why would we want rafa back. I knew he wouldn't last 12months at inter.
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To be fair to Rafa he was left with an uphill struggle. Mourinho tends to sign people at their prime and only get a couple of years out of them.

MUSHROOM

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Nice Mushroom making excuses for how a man could take the Champions of Europe then a few months later make them the laughing stock of Europe. .yep that squad has aged badly in 6 months! They're all too old. .that's it! Rafa's Tactics, man-managment, zonal defending and Ego have had nothing to do with it!


you're all so fickle, rafa bashin all the time this man brought immense pride back to anfield
european cup in his first season
we were feared around europe an at home what are we now a hukin laughin stock home an abroad

the likes ov wenger an fergie hav had bad seasons an bad signings but they're regarded amongst the greatest

hes a man of intergrity an loves the club an its fans

i hope he does great things in his career, don't forget what he did for us

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09 Dec 2010 16:05:47
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BIG NEWS! !

My uncle's, friends sisters daughter is married to a guy who has a son whose friend at school is the son of roys cousins next door neighbour and they are really good friends and apparently Messi, Ronaldo and Villa were spotted having tea, Messi was having Asado (BBQ Meat), Ronaldo was eating dried codfish and Villa was eating paella and he heard through the wall that they were going to sign on a free in January and Ronaldo said he doesn't want to be paid as he is making so much money from modelling, although if my memory corrects me it may have been Mummy Rodney and they were talking about staying at a Villa, lol the first sounds more realistic

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09 Dec 2010 15:58:12
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The Aussie fans are urging Shane Warne to come out of retirement to save them in the Ashes.

- -Maybe we should all urge Dalglish, Rush to solve our striking problems, Hansen in centerback, Kennedy to save us from Konchesky, Molby will come in place of fellow Dane Poulsen, with Beardsley and Barnes solving the wing problems.

[I know it's gonna be tough to convince God, but still; we should have a go and try to get Shankly with Paisley coming also as his assistant] {ed's note - I don't think you would have any problems convincing Robbie at all, I bet he will be all for the idea....}

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09 Dec 2010 15:57:21
Nice Mushroom making excuses for how a man could take the Champions of Europe then a few months later make them the laughing stock of Europe. .yep that squad has aged badly in 6 months! They're all too old. .that's it! Rafa's Tactics, man-managment, zonal defending and Ego have had nothing to do with it!
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Can you read? If so, then look at Inter's squad ages. Most of them are past their prime and peaked last season.

Benitez has a re-building job to do. And he was left with a very think squad. And he asked Moratti for money to improve the team and buy younger players and was given no money.

Ask yourself, why did Jose Mourinho choose to leave before the season had ended? He knew the team was too old.

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09 Dec 2010 15:46:35
09 Dec 2010 14:40:15
Why would we want rafa back. I knew he wouldn't last 12months at inter.
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To be fair to Rafa he was left with an uphill struggle. Mourinho tends to sign people at their prime and only get a couple of years out of them.

MUSHROOM

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Nice Mushroom making excuses for how a man could take the Champions of Europe then a few months later make them the laughing stock of Europe. .yep that squad has aged badly in 6 months! They're all too old. .that's it! Rafa's Tactics, man-managment, zonal defending and Ego have had nothing to do with it!

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09 Dec 2010 15:44:23
WEL ED

just a question have you a friend in the club because everytime someone says about us getting a player you say no chance are won't happen, high wages, high transfer fee.

yet the only player you agree with is this honda boy and is isn't that good

walsho

{Editor's Note: I was asked my opinion and gave it. Some players, for example Eden Hazard and Loic Remy, will not be moving to Liverpool.}

re ed

back in the summer you didn't give j cole a chance of arriving you said he didn't want to come he wanted to join harry redknapp ( he joined ) when you said honda would come he didnt.

now your saying the same about young and keep saying about honda. .

i have been saying about young since the summer, he wants a move to are great club he said it himself that he would play for us (thats a come get me)
{Editor's note - I do not remember any of the Ed's saying the above mate. The main Ed just said he did not want J. Cole and only he knew were he was going to end up}

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09 Dec 2010 15:40:43
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I think we need to stick by roy. Hes steadying the ship at a difficult time. He has shown professionalism and thick skin so i feel he should be given til at least the end of the season. we are not going to finish top 4 this season. . unless we get some class signings in jan that can hit the ground running(Honda, Lorrente, Suarez).

We need to build for the next few seasons. Our youth system is excellent and we need to have faith in there abilties and development.(stirling, suso, mavinga)

Compliments to the eds, love the site!

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09 Dec 2010 15:39:18
Mushroom how can u say rafa had an uphill struggle inter still have players which people regard as the best in the business ( cesar, lucio, eto, sneijder, maicon) I wouldn't see that as an uphill struggle.

LAVERS

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09 Dec 2010 15:35:35
Oh Ed just saw your post . . .
omg are you sure eden hazard won't join liverpool!y?
gosh am broken . . hope he won't go to arsenal. .

fazzy

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{Editor's note - He has said he would like a move to Arsenal or Madrid}

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09 Dec 2010 15:34:11
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There is a lot of talk regarding A.Young to Liverpool. For the money it would take to buy him there are much better wingers available. The only reason he is talked of as being a great winger is due to the fact he is English. Griezmann is a much better winger, also for roughly the same money we could get Mata.I'd even prefer to sign Jarvis for a lesser fee than Young.

The rumours of Johnson moving on are gathering speed as well. If he does go, the need for a right winger will double because if he goes, we will officially have no width on the RHS of the pitch. I feel GJ is being unfairly treated. When Torres is played up top on his own we all complained saying it's unfair on him having to do all that work on his own and that we are not getting the best out of him. The same applies to GJ. He is on his own on the RHS of the pitch. Kuyt is NOT a winger and NEVER will be. GJ has to be a winger and a defender. Its due to this he is out of position so much. With a winger in front of him GJ would become a much more complete player, I really hope we keep him.

As for a striker, I would like to see one of Honda, Toivonen, or Llorente. Also it may be worth a cheeky loan bid for Abdebayor

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09 Dec 2010 15:34:03
So many people on the liverpool.tv website saying they don't want us to sign Fanni. I disagree, would it not be worthwhile to spend £3m on him, allowing us to play Johnson on the right wing and then spend the rest of the money on Honda and Llorente?
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In my opinion I think it'll be a complete waste money. We've got perfectly good cover in the form of Martin Kelly. He's proved he can hack it in the first team and we won't have to pay a penny for him. It's potential purchases like this that have seen us take on board an abundance of squad players in recent years. Just look at players like El Zhar, Degan and Poulsen (three off the top of my head); these are players that we didn't really need but have wasted valuable money on. Not only have we wasted a lot of money on these type of players, it has also proved to be a major reason in our lack of youth development. Rod Fanni may be a good player, but spending £3m+ on a 29yr old whose wages will be double, if not triple that of our excellent young defender Kelly, seems like bad business to me. Ed, do you agree?

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09 Dec 2010 15:33:42
Just read 2day that we r trying to sort out a deal to bring ashley young to l.pool for 15m I hope it's just paper talk as I don't rate ashley young he's got good pace but not consistent enough and his crossing is average at best. What do you think? And who would you like to come in instead of him?
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I agree mate. He's over-rated and there are better wingers to be had for £15m. In the Summer we could easily get Juan Mata for £15m as he only has a year left on his deal. Mata is younger, and miles better than Young.

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09 Dec 2010 15:31:36
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I can't sse why some fans think Kelly won't be able to cope with Carrol, l personally think we will see the best of Kelly in a central position.He is good in the air and also quicker than the Greek.He scored with a great header for England u21.I think if he is giving a run at Centre Back, then he will make it hard for Roy to replace him.

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09 Dec 2010 15:31:21
Am I the only person who realises we effectivly swapped Aquilani for Poulsen? What a joke

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And paid for the priveledge.

Trig Diggler
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Ah so Aquilani will be costing Juventus nothing then? No.

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09 Dec 2010 15:28:25
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Ronaldo de Assis Moreira. Now there's a mouthful. long name, and even longer bank balance. Not a chance in the sweet depths of hades will this guy sign for LFC. Ooohhh, it's too cold in England. Ooohhh, the players are a bit rough and I might break a nail. Ooohhh, I might have to take a wage cut and only earn £100,000 a week. Poor me. Hang on a minute, I can go to the good old USA. They pay millions for anything. I don't even have to play very well. I'll be quids in.

Mmm, does that sound good Mr Ronaldinho?

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09 Dec 2010 15:27:33
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Look what my Milan friend told me pretty much word for word was this "Do you think Milan will let the next Pirlo go to them! CaCatz a dishi (spelling, I think it means FFS). . . . . If you are going to be giving players away (a ref to the 12m I presume) then we will send you some pasta and tiramasu for Torres and Gerrard. . ."

So maybe LFC let Aqua join Juve with a view to buy at the end of the season for 12m, first refusal, with no clauses what so ever (not even santa clauses, sorry had to get that one in) no options for LFC what so ever, and maybe NESV are happy with this because they have loads of money and whats 10m when it comes to "I called first dibbs" rule, "sorry that was signed six months ago and you have to honor your word". . . . . . .

Or maybe there are clauses in this agreement, that AC will exploit, that maybe they will fight tooth and nail to sign this home grown player that is regarded as the next Pirlo, maybe NESV aren't prepared to lose 10m and let Aqua leave for 12m when they could get him for 22m. . . . .

Either the EDS, MUSHROOM and RED77 are right or maybe the Milan fans are right. . .who knows?. . . . Italian football if I was to be honest is not my specialty. . . . .

Tobey

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09 Dec 2010 15:22:29
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Am I the only person who realises we effectivly swapped Aquilani for Poulsen? What a joke
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We bought Paulsen to replace Macherano. MMM still a joke

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09 Dec 2010 15:21:06
09 Dec 2010 14:52:12
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Your wrong, the weather in Manchester is not the same as Liverpool, Liverpool is coastal so tends to be warmer with less rain. {ed's note - actually Liverpool tends to be colder because of the cold wind that blows in off the Irish Sea.}

According to Wikipedia Manchester have as yearly average high of 11.8C compared to Liverpool 12.7C.
{Editor's note - Nearly everyone can change Wikipedia as long as you have an account}
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Last night we were talking about our love lives. Now we are talking about the weather. See what Hodgson has done to us with his negative tactics we can't talk about football. Because we can't discuss how our team played good free flowing football becuase we don't play any.

Thanks Roy for turning this site into Loose Women.

Blair Mayne YNWA

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09 Dec 2010 15:14:54
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Am I the only person who realises we effectivly swapped Aquilani for Poulsen? What a joke

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And paid for the priveledge.

Trig Diggler

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09 Dec 2010 15:14:36
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Just read 2day that we r trying to sort out a deal to bring ashley young to l.pool for 15m I hope it's just paper talk as I don't rate ashley young he's got good pace but not consistent enough and his crossing is average at best. What do you think? And who would you like to come in instead of him?

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09 Dec 2010 15:11:58
Um Carroll is 1.91m tall, both Kelly and Skrtel are 1.91m tall as well. Soto is only 0.02m taller than Carroll, so I totally agree with the ed

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Sorry, missed that. But I was talking in terms of strength. Carrol throws himself about like a madman and Kyrgiakos is the only player I can think of that would match him. But I've abandoned that mindset after the ed knocked some sense into me.

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09 Dec 2010 15:08:19
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"editors who are also linguists"

Google translator works well for me.

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09 Dec 2010 15:06:21
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Make that AQUILANI +£4M for POULSEN

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09 Dec 2010 15:02:16
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If Ronaldihno did actually want to end his career at the best club in the world, he would have to take a pay cut. He could get a pay rise if he produced the goods.

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09 Dec 2010 14:55:59
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WEL ED

just a question have you a friend in the club because everytime someone says about us getting a player you say no chance are won't happen, high wages, high transfer fee.

yet the only player you agree with is this honda boy and is isn't that good

walsho

{Editor's Note: I was asked my opinion and gave it. Some players, for example Eden Hazard and Loic Remy, will not be moving to Liverpool.}

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09 Dec 2010 14:52:12
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Your wrong, the weather in Manchester is not the same as Liverpool, Liverpool is coastal so tends to be warmer with less rain. {ed's note - actually Liverpool tends to be colder because of the cold wind that blows in off the Irish Sea.}

According to Wikipedia Manchester have as yearly average high of 11.8C compared to Liverpool 12.7C.
{Editor's note - Nearly everyone can change Wikipedia as long as you have an account}

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09 Dec 2010 14:50:20
{ed's note - only thing I would change would be to play Kelly instead of Kyrgiakos.}

I personally don't fancy Kyrgiakos playing at all, but if we play Kelly then who's going to win headers against Carrol. I know Skrtel is a decent header of the ball, but we all know he'll just end up conceding a penalty if we give him sole responsibility, at least with Kyrgiakos you have someone who can give Carrol a good clattering. What do you think, ed? {ed's note - if our only worry when we pick a player is whether they can beat Carroll in the air or not then we may as well give up. The aim should be to cut off his supply lines and keep the ball so Newcastle don't have the opportunity to hoof it to him. Press high and isolate him so that any headers he does win are just aimless and concede possession back to us.}

Um Carroll is 1.91m tall, both Kelly and Skrtel are 1.91m tall as well. Soto is only 0.02m taller than Carroll, so I totally agree with the ed

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09 Dec 2010 14:48:52
The whole Lucas situation is embarrassing. If any Liverpool fan still truely thinks he's sh*te, you're not worth standing shoulder to shoulder with. The lad has been brilliant for us this season - after years of abuse from Liverpool "fans". Many liverpool fan (including myself) have had there say on players over the years. but have backed everyone who goes out on the pitch. This recent lack of respect from fans is depressing. If a Mr Carragher was to come through our ranks now, our "fans" would simply say "he's not a Liverpool player". Carragher was average as a midfielder (to put it mildly) and all you "fans" who now have it as your right to know what a liverpool player is would have slated him at the game. Yet 450 games later. . Maybe the truth is I have it wrong. It could be that a "liverpool player" and "liverpool Fan" have both changed, and that I could be a bad fan who doesn't know a player. But in my era, I had the best of both worlds. Better fans and a better game. Memories of listening to the games outside the Kop waiting to get in at half time for £1.50 sound as tho I am years old, but I'm 34. So much has changed in the game and at LFC. Pity.

EPortRed
NOT ALL CHANGE
i don't agree mate im a fossil and i can remember ian callaghan getting stick from the "fans" at the end of his career for passing square, as everyone wanted him to fly down the right wing this was a player who had played over 800 games for the club, and it didn't stop the groans and moans, and in the 1980s kevin mcdonald come in for loads of stick from the "fans" you are correct in saying the prices have gone berserk, bob paisleys skids

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09 Dec 2010 14:46:16
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Babel - Saurez: My fiends an Ajax fan, he says Ryan coming home would be like a second coming, with Ryan exploding on the scene tearing up the division THEY LOVE HIM! But they also love Saurez the trouble is there is a silent minority that want him out and that silent minority tend to be the loudest. He would love to keep Saurez AND have Babel but thinks that is too good to be true.THE SILENT MINORITY ARE THE LOUDEST ha ha ha HA

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09 Dec 2010 14:44:55
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09 Dec 2010 14:01:45
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Hi Eds and every one, I think my long rumour post has caused a bit of traffic, look guys I am a mature student that has a lot of friends from uni and well all over the EU what I posted was their views.

I am going to take two examples from my post in more detail;

Babel - Saurez: My fiends an Ajax fan, he says Ryan coming home would be like a second coming, with Ryan exploding on the scene tearing up the division THEY LOVE HIM! But they also love Saurez the trouble is there is a silent minority that want him out and that silent minority tend to be the loudest. He would love to keep Saurez AND have Babel but thinks that is too good to be true.
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Love that last bit from Tobey!

1) Ajax fans love Suarez
2) The Silent Majority DONT love Suarez
3) The Silent Majority is usually the loudest! !

I've gone cross-eyed! !

Red G

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09 Dec 2010 14:43:59
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Aquilani certainly has an eye for a pass. .but he is sooo lightweight for a midfielder. .and he's not going to displace Miereles, Gerrard or even Lucas at the moment. So even though I want to give him a chance to prove himself as a Red there's seems little point.

Do we want him to also be an obstacle to the development of Shelvey and Spearing? I think not.

So, if a deal is in place for him to move permanently to Juve then so be it.

Also I see no need for a new central defender as Agger is world class, Kelly and Wilson can cover.

Priority - both wings and a second striker.

Wings I'd be happy with Podolski on the left and Adam Johnson on the right.
Honda off Torres? ?

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09 Dec 2010 14:43:46
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I heard from my mate Ketchup and his football friend mayonnaise that we would be signing the precocious young brazilian Neymar in the summer. No sorry I can't keep this up, my sauces are made up. :)

On a serious note, I can't see us getting rid of Johnson and signing Fanni without some kind of protection. . .against injuries, unless Kelly is officially going to be no2. But correct me if im wrong but isn't Kelly's natural position centre back ed? If that is the case then Roy is indeed guilty of using rectangle pegs in oblong holes!

Fatboy76

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09 Dec 2010 14:40:15
Why would we want rafa back. I knew he wouldn't last 12months at inter.
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To be fair to Rafa he was left with an uphill struggle. Mourinho tends to sign people at their prime and only get a couple of years out of them.

MUSHROOM

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09 Dec 2010 14:34:15
PSV have been on ESPN quiet abit lately and Ola Toivonen really stood out. he is a goal scorer and big and strong in the air. the only question is will he be any better than ngog.
also before we buy a winger i think David Amoo should be given a chance on the right.
ed do you think amoo's ready and any thoughts on Toivonen.

always a red
{Editor's note - I would like to see him getting some opportunities in the first team to prove he is up to it}

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09 Dec 2010 14:24:08
Ed's note - Press high and isolate him so that any headers he does win are just aimless and concede possession back to us.}

dont think that is roy's style of play at all, especially away from home. i can see the exact opposite, conceeding ground and possession and being forced to defend deeper and deeper untill carol causes real trouble in the air. this might be the one of only times i would want kyriakos in the side. great in the air and won't have to worry to much about carol's pace (or lack of it)
big steve177

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09 Dec 2010 13:45:19
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So many people on the liverpool.tv website saying they don't want us to sign Fanni. I disagree, would it not be worthwhile to spend £3m on him, allowing us to play Johnson on the right wing and then spend the rest of the money on Honda and Llorente?

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09 Dec 2010 13:44:58
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Having read that weve been linked with cleo from partizan belgrade and after watching him last night i would hope we stay we'll clear of him he didn't impress me 1 bit

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09 Dec 2010 13:13:05
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{ed's note - only thing I would change would be to play Kelly instead of Kyrgiakos.}

I personally don't fancy Kyrgiakos playing at all, but if we play Kelly then who's going to win headers against Carrol. I know Skrtel is a decent header of the ball, but we all know he'll just end up conceding a penalty if we give him sole responsibility, at least with Kyrgiakos you have someone who can give Carrol a good clattering. What do you think, ed? {ed's note - if our only worry when we pick a player is whether they can beat Carroll in the air or not then we may as well give up. The aim should be to cut off his supply lines and keep the ball so Newcastle don't have the opportunity to hoof it to him. Press high and isolate him so that any headers he does win are just aimless and concede possession back to us.}

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09 Dec 2010 13:08:32
{ed's note - I am still not convinced by Roy, he still wants the players to drop deeper as soon as we score and play on the counter only. I would prefer to play on the front foot and look to win the ball higher up the pitch myself.}

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Bob Loblaw

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09 Dec 2010 13:02:55
Liverpool Rumours
I believe Rod Fanni would not solve our problems at right back. Glen Johnson is a better player, and plus we wasted £17 million on his services, so i'd like to squeeze the money out of him!
As for Ronaldinho, personally, id love to see him at Anfield, former World Player of the year, would be a great addition.
Ashley Young is a possible target, id love to see him up there in the ranks as a Liverpool player, i believe he has a lot of potential.
Sources at Anfield have said that Shaun Wright Phillips is a very very possible target for the Reds, but i believe Man City wouldn't be willing to let him go, without a swap deal and at least £10-£15 million

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09 Dec 2010 12:57:56
I don't think players being cup tied will make a difference on who we go for in Jan. Can't see uefa cup being the main priority, I'd have thought top 4. To give us a chance of getting the top players in the summer.

LAVERS

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09 Dec 2010 12:47:08
Why would we want rafa back. I knew he wouldn't last 12months at inter.

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09 Dec 2010 12:42:56
Liverpool Rumours
OK fellow Reds, bear with me here!

The key to January transfers is targetting players with not much to play for in the New Year. Anyone currently playing for a Champions League team is out. Likely to be out (but with exceptions subject to their origin), are any teams fighting for national championships.

LFC could concevably sign players who have played or are still in the UEFA Cup this season, as there is a quota of players you can sign who have already played in the same European competition.

If the big big teams are not hugely active in the Winter, it could be an ideal time to do some business.

On the rumour front, we shouldnt be trying to pre-judge NESV, saying we can't afford this player, more likely to go for that one. Does anyone actually know how much NESV are willing to spend?! If they have the resources available to them (which Im sure they do), it makes sense to keep it quiet until they can play their cards. . .


Keisuke Honda (approx £12m)
Wants to get out of Moscow. CSKA could win their national league, but have no European aspirations. Negotiations clearly underway already. Will be a great buy.

Luis Suarez (approx £20m)
Ajax are possible Dutch Champions, but he is said to be wanting out following his recent ban and Martin Jol's departure. Ajax will be in the UEFA Cup folloing 3rd place group finish. Would he be cup tied? Depends how many potentially cup tied players we sign. Currently banned, but only effects Dutch league.

Gregory van der Weil
See above for Ajax. They have some serious issues at the moment. If we sell Johnson, would be a better replacement in my opinion. Depends if anyone else goes fopr him though.

Eden Hazzard (approx £20m)
Lille are top of the French League but on their way out of Europe, barring results going their way next week. 50/ 50, but I would suggest he would want to win the French League with Lille. WOuld have to wait for this one, if we are in with a shout at all.

Kun Aguero (approx £30m)
Atletico are 8th in La Liga, and on a downward trend. They need an injection of cash, as most Spanish clubs do (I live in Spain BTW). Would he come to us? 50/ 50 I guess. Conceivable that we get back into Champs League this season, so no reason why not. Only 2 other teams out there who have won more Euro Cups than us! Dont underestimate our pulling power. We still have it!

Ashley Young (approx £15m)
Contract is running down and he wants to leave Villa. Now could be the time to get him rather than waiting for the summer. I disagree with Ed's harsh views on Young (first time for everything matey!). On his day he is an excellent player with pace and creativity, something we don't have at the moment. Would agree there are better out there, but perhaps LFC could bring out the best in the lad (ala John Barnes?). However, our style of play has to suit him for it to be a success.

Fernando Llorente (approx £25m)
Bilbao are heading for mid-table annominity again. Torres and Reina connection could work well for us, assuming they don't plan to leave any time soon!


Any comments?

Red Gart {ed's note - Aguero is set to sign a new contract, I think that puts him out of reach.}

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09 Dec 2010 12:40:54
GREAT news! Rafa is about to be sacked from Inter in Italy. Let's start a petition to get him back to LFC.

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09 Dec 2010 12:28:40
I can't understand it. For about 2 years everyone was slating Lucas! I remember when in the Derby Rafa took Stevie off for Lucas and everyone was going nuts, I have faith in him and so did my brother. He effectivley won the Derby that day after shooting at goal only to he denied by Nevilles handball. Kuyt thankfully slotted away the penalty. I have been a big fan of Lucas since we signed him. You also have to remember that he was 21 when he signed, and coming to a club like Liverpool can be hard for any player, look at Fernando Moreintes, hardly a kop legend but one of the highest scorers in the Champions League. He and Raul are starting to form a really tight parntership in the centre of Midfield and could be really good for the future. Get behind everyone! YNWA

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09 Dec 2010 12:06:44
Looking at the Liverpool website it says that the John Henry, Tom Warner and Ian Ayres will answering fans questions on their phone in program on Monday Dec 13th at 5pm. If you have Sky its on chanel 434 and its a free chanel to watch

Surely a must see program for LFC fans and could you even of imagined the previous owners doing this kind of thing?

RedDan

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09 Dec 2010 11:59:20
Liverpool Rumours
Roby kean joined liverpool and left 6 mon ths later for what was 7 mill cheaper.


Not it wasnt we sold him back to spurs for 15 million.

If Honda signed last jan for 8 million, has played well and is on say a 5 year deal hes gonna cost more than 10 million. So why argue? Its just how football works.

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09 Dec 2010 11:57:32
Mirelles is a great midfielder. I think the bad games he had was because he was played on the right hand side. He hasn't even settled in properly yet. It takes most midfielders a season to settle, look at moderic at spurs. Did anyone watch the portugal v Spain game. Mirrelles was played well and that's not an easy midfield battle to compete in. Steve Hothersall was talking about Mirelles, and his postioning in the early games where he was diployed on the right, and he had been asking Portugal Jurno's about his past and they all said he has never played right side before as he is a box to box traditional centre mid. I thnk that is the reason he didn't have a great start but the last couple of games where he has played centre with Lucas he has been good. For the first time in about a season and half we actually have a competition for midfield places with Lucas, Mirelles playing well and Maxi starting to get better and score more. With Gerrard coming back as well he could possibly partner Torres up front again or go on the right and hopefully the compettion for places will help/ force Joe Cole to play better and perform like he used to for Chelsea. I know allot of people don't rate cole but I think he was great at chelsea. He is not the grafter sides need when they have to battle it out and are under performing but when sides are playing and flowing he can be the added extra in teams and the kind of player that makes things happen and add more goals to the side along with a bit of flair which I think sides and us fans need/ enjoy. I think liverpools poor start hasn'd been particuarly good for Cole but if we can get a bit of form and start playing better (like we have) then I think/ hope we will see allot of improvement from Joe and Liverpool.

Bob Loblaw

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09 Dec 2010 11:55:35
Liverpool Rumours
Hi Ed. Despite his performance on Monday against Villa do you expect to Babel to be sold in Jan? Although he wasn't perfect he definatley showed he was up for the game and played well against to strong defenders, shame he hasn't shown that form more often and who would you play with Torres on Sat (assuming he plays) Gerrard, Kuyt, babel or Ngog?


RedDan {ed's note - I really didn't see anything about Babel to suggest he is worth keeping, other than the finish for his goal. His workrate was poor, he was regularly stood watching while Maxi and Ngog pressed in the opposition half allowing an easy out ball, then he would amble over after the pass was played. I know I have been spoilt watching the likes of Rush and Fowler defending from the front, but I have grown to expect that from forwards now and Babel can't do it. His touch is poor as well, we lose possession a lot when he has the ball due to his inability to keep it or when he does find a team mate with a pass. For me he would be gone in January, though I think he will be here till the summer due to our lack of options in attack.}

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09 Dec 2010 11:48:18
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Ed what you think about roy now? still don't trust him , or roy is sorting out something good?. .but for me, his better compared too rafa. .and roy started playin 4~4~2 now. .sounds better than rafa. !

fazzy {ed's note - I am still not convinced by Roy, he still wants the players to drop deeper as soon as we score and play on the counter only. I would prefer to play on the front foot and look to win the ball higher up the pitch myself.}

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09 Dec 2010 11:29:09
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Ed what do you think of this team for Newcastle
A 4312 formation

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Johnson- - -Soto- - Skrtel- - Auerlio

- - - -Lucas- - Meireles- - Maxi- - -

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- - - - - - Torres- - -N'gog- - - - - {ed's note - only thing I would change would be to play Kelly instead of Kyrgiakos.}

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09 Dec 2010 11:13:57
Yes, watched that crowd of . . ers playing last night and some of the Valencia midfielders really stood out. I know Carrick and Anderson are dirt and not good enough and they are still trying to fill the boots of Keane . . . Veron, Kleberson Djemba Djemba have all failed but I really don't see it in Lucas. I hope youse are right but I don't see it. It's hard to even work out what type of midfielder he is . . . passing , tackling , goalscoring . . . he doesn't fit any of these. Are we clutching at straws. . . we may be left waiting.
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Lucas was an attacking midfielder at Gremio and from what i've seen he's at his best when allowed to go forward. But i think we can safetly say that's not going to happen under Hodgson who likes his centre midfielders not going to far forward just like Rafa.

The only time Mireless is allowed to go forward is when he's taking the corners. But i have to admit that when Lucas plays for Brazil he's also used as a holding midfielder.

Maybe just maybe Hodgson has a second job on the side managing Brazil to.

Blair Mayne YNWA

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I somehow feel that the hard work with Lucas has been more or less completed. . . We should get back and watch this lad as he is getting better and better with every game. . . .

Remember few years back, Roy Keane took a swipe at some of the young players in Manchester United. . . . . His chief target was rumoured to be Darren Fletcher. . .4 years later Fergie was absolutely devasted on losing Fletcher for the final against Barcelona. . . .In the final, Barcelona bossed the midfield. . .

Lucas has done the hard work, is settled in Liverpool now. . . It would be foolish to get rid of him. . . He is just 24 and will only get better with age and experience. . .He may well go on to become an integral part of a very successful Liverpool squad. . . . Fingers crossed

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If you goto the official LFC website or listen to their phone in programs Lucas Leiva is finally getting the recognition he deserves. Whatever Roy has said to him its working, as he is a good midfielder who should only get better. To sell a developiing 24yr old is just a ridiculous idea. Have you seen his last couple of games? Him and Raul have been excellent and I'd go say that I would rather play Gerrard wide right or behind Torres on Saturday against Newcastle rather than let him breakup the Meireles/ Lucas partnership.

RedDan

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09 Dec 2010 11:11:16
09 Dec 2010 08:08:33
WILL PEOPLE STOP COMING ON HERE AND SLATING MEREILES! HE IS WORLD CLASS AND PROBABLY ALONG WITH LUCAS(WHO I ALSO WANT PEOPLE TO STOP SLATING) HAVE BEEN OUR TWO BEST PLAYERS THIS SEASON! ! !
SO BACK OFF AND SUPPORT NOT SLATE! !

I agree completely, Meireles is quality when played in Central midfield.He started all of Portugal's matches at the World cup 2010.
Lucas is now a regular on the Brazil Panel, what more do you want?
They have both proved their worth. Sometimes I wonder what some people are thinking when they write rubbish on here. We can't have a team full of Gerards or Torres's or Jamies, but we can get behind the lads we do have and make them feel at home! YNWA.

SioLFC

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09 Dec 2010 10:14:48
Liverpool Rumours
I wonder if any1 else saw the marseille chelsea game, if they did i hope that they will agree that we shud bid for taiwo and valbeuna the pocket rocket, remy looked half decent but went a bit missing at times tho

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09 Dec 2010 09:56:02
Yes, watched that crowd of . . ers playing last night and some of the Valencia midfielders really stood out. I know Carrick and Anderson are dirt and not good enough and they are still trying to fill the boots of Keane . . . Veron, Kleberson Djemba Djemba have all failed but I really don't see it in Lucas. I hope youse are right but I don't see it. It's hard to even work out what type of midfielder he is . . . passing , tackling , goalscoring . . . he doesn't fit any of these. Are we clutching at straws. . . we may be left waiting.
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Lucas was an attacking midfielder at Gremio and from what i've seen he's at his best when allowed to go forward. But i think we can safetly say that's not going to happen under Hodgson who likes his centre midfielders not going to far forward just like Rafa.

The only time Mireless is allowed to go forward is when he's taking the corners. But i have to admit that when Lucas plays for Brazil he's also used as a holding midfielder.

Maybe just maybe Hodgson has a second job on the side managing Brazil to.

Blair Mayne YNWA

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I somehow feel that the hard work with Lucas has been more or less completed. . . We should get back and watch this lad as he is getting better and better with every game. . . .

Remember few years back, Roy Keane took a swipe at some of the young players in Manchester United. . . . . His chief target was rumoured to be Darren Fletcher. . .4 years later Fergie was absolutely devasted on losing Fletcher for the final against Barcelona. . . .In the final, Barcelona bossed the midfield. . .

Lucas has done the hard work, is settled in Liverpool now. . . It would be foolish to get rid of him. . . He is just 24 and will only get better with age and experience. . .He may well go on to become an integral part of a very successful Liverpool squad. . . . Fingers crossed

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09 Dec 2010 09:44:15
Liverpool Rumours
I, for one, would be sad to see Glen Jonhson depart. I know that we've only seen glimpses of his true form. But I will guarantee, if he goes to Spurs or the like, we'll come to regret it. We shouldn't be getting rid of players like that. And what, Spurs' cast-offs in return?
Pavlywassisname I could just about live with, but not Kranthingamebob (a bit of Paisleyitis there ). He's nothing different to what we already have.
KB

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09 Dec 2010 09:30:22
I'll probably be slaughtered for this but i was watching the SSN report about the disgraceful sacking of Chris Hughton (Newcastle) and i felt a bit embarrassed. Why? Because Newcastle thought he was not the right man for the job and they were above us at the time. So what does that make Roy if Hughton gets the sack from Newcastle and seems to be doing a better job than Hodgson. And Hughton has less experience and worse players than Hodgson.

In short i can't believe Hodgson is still our manager.

Blair Mayne YNWA

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wont get slaughtered by me, totally agree. roy is not the man for the job. starting to feel as though im in the minority now. it is going to take a lot more than 2 decent home wins, against 2 really poor sides (w. ham and villa) to convince me. i keep saying it, but its the away form/ tactics that are the real problem.
we are away to newcastle this saturday. they are in turmoil at the moment, its the perfect opportunity for roy to be possitive and attack minded, but somehow i can't see it.
big steve177

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09 Dec 2010 09:10:38
Liverpool Rumours
Hodgson said: "With Raul Meireles it was always just a question of time.

"He came from a different league but I never doubted his quality as a player.

"I always knew we'd get something out of him because of his exceptional ability."

"I'm sure we'll get even more out of him now, with the more games he plays as he settles more and more into life in England, " the manager added.

so this is what hodgson said about meriles
its surprising what happens to a player when you play him in the position he is suppose to play

i hope he remember his words when gerrard comes back
hodgson has to either put gerrard (world class can play anywhere) on the right and stick with lucas and meriles in the middle or play a midfield 3

i hope he makes the right decision but i think he is a creature of habit

after what hodgson as said ed what do you think he will do with gerrard when he comes back to the team? {ed's note - I expect one of Lucas or Meireles to make way for Gerrard when he comes back. I just hope he doesn't decide to shift Meireles to the right to make room.}

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09 Dec 2010 08:47:12
OK so earlier in the season we were in the bottom three, losing some of our young and old talent. Now were are 10 points off top spot. Thats better than we were last season at this stage. Maybe we should just stop slating Roy and let the team just get on with it. With our support the team can bond easier and players will feel welcome. I can see next season going one of two ways, either we do really well, or we do really well. CMON MIGHTY REDS :)
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Well I could not agree more, well said. People who expect overnight success are deluded, it takes time to learn the new managers ways and tactics, patterns of play etc. It also takes time for the manager to learn about the players fitness, attitude, chemistry etc. To be fair to Roy he took one hell of a job on and not alot of so called top managers would of taken it on. One thing I did notice when everyone was slating roy and the team is the players always had a smile on there face in traning, a very rare thing when Rafa was in charge (even though im a Rafa fan).

All in all I thnink we could be alot worse off. . . . eg -administration! !

Matty b

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09 Dec 2010 08:25:43
Liverpool Rumours
Ive read alot of lists on here about are possible line ups cole has been left out of all of them i know he hasnt had best of starts for liverpool but shid he be written off ed what can you see happening with cole also i would just like to say u wouldn't like to see a.young at liverpool he overrated most of work is messy an 15m far to much
RED M {ed's note - to be honest I have never rated Cole anyway, but the best of him is long gone, I can only see him as a sub to bring on to change games. I doubt he will be at the club next summer being honest, Cole believes himself to be too good to sit on the bench. I agree on Young as well, wastes possession constantly and is a headless chicken, his forward runs are awful.}


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09 Dec 2010 08:13:50
The whole Lucas situation is embarrassing. If any Liverpool fan still truely thinks he's sh*te, you're not worth standing shoulder to shoulder with. The lad has been brilliant for us this season - after years of abuse from Liverpool "fans". Many liverpool fan (including myself) have had there say on players over the years. but have backed everyone who goes out on the pitch. This recent lack of respect from fans is depressing. If a Mr Carragher was to come through our ranks now, our "fans" would simply say "he's not a Liverpool player". Carragher was average as a midfielder (to put it mildly) and all you "fans" who now have it as your right to know what a liverpool player is would have slated him at the game. Yet 450 games later. . Maybe the truth is I have it wrong. It could be that a "liverpool player" and "liverpool Fan" have both changed, and that I could be a bad fan who doesn't know a player. But in my era, I had the best of both worlds. Better fans and a better game. Memories of listening to the games outside the Kop waiting to get in at half time for £1.50 sound as tho I am years old, but I'm 34. So much has changed in the game and at LFC. Pity.

EPortRed

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09 Dec 2010 08:08:33
WILL PEOPLE STOP COMING ON HERE AND SLATING MEREILES! ! HE IS WORLD CLASS AND PROBABLY ALONG WITH LUCAS(WHO I ALSO WANT PEOPLE TO STOP SLATING) HAVE BEEN OUR TWO BEST PLAYERS THIS SEASON! ! ! !
SO BACK OFF AND SUPPORT NOT SLATE! !

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09 Dec 2010 07:30:33
Maybe the transfers LFC make will be players that are yet to be linked us , hopefully whoever they are they will become real assets like Raul Meireles and improve the first team .

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09 Dec 2010 07:09:15
Lucas never has and never will be good enough for our midfield . . . couldn't lace the boots of Gerrard, Mascherano & Alonso. Do you think when opposing teams/ fans see a midfield with Lucas and Merieles in it that it strikes the fear of god into them. Don't think so . . . a soft centre. Merieles . . . maybe a bit more time but I doubt it. With regards to Viera, Henry , etc . . I know these players are great players but do we have the time/ money to take the chance. With regards to the other players I listed . . It's only a few thoughts and if you think only one is suitable for our club . . well I beg to differ. The defenders are all big , strong imposing types and the midfielders are all tricky / intelligent players. On another note we always used to go after players who played well against us and stood out. Nasri did it and we didn't go after him. Valbuena, some of the standard Liege players were good against us and some of the lads off Benfica. What youse think.
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Valbuena, Standard Liege and Benfica, are'nt these from the so called lesser leagues as you put it. Why would you want to spend money on those? You said you only wanted proven prem players.
Lucas and Miereles are quality, they ran the midfield against Villa and most of the time against the spuds. As for Marcherano, quality attitude that fella. Refusing to play against Man Citeh to force a move. What a superstar!

MUSHROOM

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09 Dec 2010 06:53:45
At the start of the season I was all for Roy Hodgson trying to do a good job , then after a dozen games it appeared the task was beyond him , NESV arrived and we hoped for improvement , it arrived only in the Chelsea game and was missing for the matches against Stoke and Wigan , at that point I began to post on this site feeling that Roy Hodgson was taking nothing from lead NESV was showing , in fact I said that if LFC lose to West Ham I would want Roy Hodgson out once and for all even though the fabled 30 day clause has passed , and someone called me fickle .

At that point I made a decision to be positive and in all fairness there has been many positives - LFC have won 3 games scoring 8 goals and only conceding 3 goals in the 4 games since Stoke away and the football in that time has improved dramatically to the point that the full backs are getting in the final third , the team is playing 4-4-2 and the 2 central midfielders are controlling the game with goals from unlikely sources .

The team does not even look like the same team that played Wigan and Stoke yet that was only 4 games ago . I have to give Roy Hodgson credit for that and look optimisticly at the next 2 months of fixtures in the hope that the team continue to improve at apace with the possibility of wiping the smile off the face of the Premier League favourites .

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09 Dec 2010 04:32:58
What Suarez did for his team, I mean the handball if did that under Shankly in Liverpool, Shankly would have been proud of him!

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09 Dec 2010 03:57:22
Liverpool Rumours
I'm a big follower of this site and keep my mouth shut - however has anyone actually looked at keisuke Honda's goal scoring record? check wikipedia; its not impressive, 45 professional goals since 2004! I've been understanding our primary acquisition whoever it is would be as support/ supplement for Torres as an out and out striker i guess with the flexibility to play an attacking midfield role in addition to that. We have potentially a very strong attacking midfield; I'm now not convinced having investigated the player that he really is the player for us and that there's every chance the rumour is just hot air and cellotape. {ed's note - you know he has played a lot of his career in defensive positions don't you?}

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09 Dec 2010 03:50:47
Marcel Desailly is still about

i think he would make for a worldclass coach

just seems to be waiting for someone to contact him

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09 Dec 2010 03:49:00
Liverpool Rumours
Does anyone else feel good about lucas and meireles pairing, we can play gerrard and torres above them, what we really need is a winger, i think kuyt, maxi and cole can handle one wing between them, but there form we go up and down throughout season, so we need that depth in the wings. but as i said we really need an out and out winger with PACE!

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09 Dec 2010 03:35:11
Ed who do you think would be a good replacement for johnson me thinks van der wiel {ed's note - Ramos or Lahm wouldn't be too shabby either!}

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