Liverpool Banter Archive June 27 2013

27 Jun 2013 23:25:15
Liverpool to sighn two more players in this transfer window. A centre back and a attacking midfielder (or winger). If suarez leaves we will sighn another player either another attacking midfielder (or winger) or a striker.

Or a df or a gk?
ffs good guess Sherlock
MikeyD

27 Jun 2013 23:22:08
Just watched Aspas on YouTube. I know you can edit a turd to look good but this boy looks the real deal. Pace, skill, two feet, brave header of ball with big defenders and passionate. Getting a little moist my red friends. Cheers Nick

27 Jun 2013 23:02:01
Some rumors about Mario Gomez signing for Fiorentina. Gomez agent denies this. But still, with a club like Fiorentina, no disrespect to them, surely we can offer a more appealing package than them!? I guess I'm dreaming. Anyways, any truth in the Fiorentina rumor? Thanks {Ed002's Note - Yes there is interest from them.}

Fiorentina are on the up in Serie A and I don't think many clubs want to go after him because he hasn't played many games lately for Bayern or Germany. Risky in a way even though it's clear he's a poacher.

27 Jun 2013 22:45:02
Luis Alberto will get the number 7 shirt. Apparently Aspas has the number 9 and Mignolet has number 22 according to the official Liverpool site {Ed030's Note - Suarez has 7 mate. }

Alberto will get assaidi or shelvey number.

Ynwa

I hope they take 7 away from Suarez. Clearly he doesn't represent what that number means to our history.

Why would he get Shelvey's number? What's so special about the number 33?

27 Jun 2013 21:58:28
Eds and reds,
People saying if we lose Luis Suarez then we'll buy Christian Benteke, is that a likely scenario? {Ed030's Note - An enquiry was made for Benteke but nothing more has come of it. }

27 Jun 2013 21:28:26
Good evening Eds,

surely the reason we have not pushed through with the mkhityran deal is because we are waiting for the money from the potential Suarez deal? After the money spent so far I can't imagine we can broker that deal without a big out. {Ed002's Note - I would rather not get in to the finances and when the payments are made.}

Regarding Suarez the phrase here is 'potential deal' he signed a long term contract last summer, if the club don't want to sell no one can make them! now I know it's always said that you can't keep an unhappy player but suarez is a little different because he lives to play football, if the club tell him no he can't go and don't sell, yeah he will kick up a fuss but my feeling is that he'll get on with it just to play, he's going to miss the first 6 games any way and he's going to be straining at the leash to get on the pitch, keep him a year let him help us to get top 4 then let him go, LFC is not a bad place to be surely, you'd think it was plague ridden the way he's carryin' on - he was happy enough to come in the first place make him stay tell RM to get lost and mean it! we are LFC we hold all the cards even if he goes on strike I'd still see it through, Tevez tried it and it didn't work for him either!
StevieH

27 Jun 2013 23:17:52
Yeah, except the problem with the tevez thing is that he came back, did nothing of any real note, and has now gone to juve at half the price they could have got him for last summer, plus they had to pay him an extra years wages.
Man city ended up as the biggest losers in that situation, and it seems that the only real winners were juventus.
We can't afford for Suarez to lose any real value tbh, and all he will do is disrupt the squad. On top of that, his mentality seems so childish, I would not put it past him to cost us as really important moments out of petty revenge.

The only way anyone really wins here is if we sell him now and carry on building. I don't expect he'd have been here past next season anyway.

27 Jun 2013 21:23:53
if suarez does leave for around the 40 million quoted will the replacement be a big money big name or a couple of mid range priced players coming in?thank ed in advance {Ed030's Note - Isn't Mkhitaryan a big enough name? }

28 Jun 2013 11:29:26
It's certainly long

27 Jun 2013 21:08:27
Hi eds I've heard a from a reliable source we've a serious
Enquiry for Luke shaw of southampton - any truth?

Reliable Az {Ed030's Note - Shaw will have plenty of options open to him,I don't see one of them being Liverpool. }

£85m for Bale (developed at Saints), staff say Shaw will be better still?
Why would Saints sell?

No-don't need the money and player happy to stay.

Try next door, their guy would be a lot cheaper!

27 Jun 2013 20:57:21
According to reports, Suso had another great game for spain u20's when he came on, 50 yard pass for a goal. (LFC official site).
McB

27 Jun 2013 20:45:44
Anybody agree that Aspas may be more of a Kuyt type player than a Suarez type player? I just see him as a player that will work his socks off going back and forward to regain possession and set up attacks. Looks promising.
ROI. {Ed030's Note - He reminds me a bit of Bellamy from what I have saw. }

He is more technically gifted than Kuyt. Kuyt was excellent in 'Big Games'. Always got into the box to.

The real AG

It should be "From what I have seen" ED

The grammer police are here, what a dick.

*grammar

I agree with the Bellamy reference, including temprament for better and worse.

Andy K

27 Jun 2013 20:32:17
More buys:
Alderweid- 8m
Defelou or tello - reina deal
Wanyama- 12m
Mkhitrayan- 22m

That would challenge for top 4
It is likley that we will keep suarez

We can raise funds by selling players
Eg.shelvey for 7m
Skertle
Lots of cash can be made to get these signings

27 Jun 2013 20:22:47
Hi eds just a quick one with suarez seemingly on his way out where are the goals coming from if sturridge gets injured again? I know we got aspas but is he a 30 goal a season player who knows I can't see us getting henrik mkrtchyan due to lack of european football and asking price borini not good enough. What are your thoughts i'm a little concerned thanks! {Ed030's Note - Sorry mate but I don't have a answer for the question "where are the goals coming from" I don't see how I could possibly answer that. }

Can I ask where you got to the conclusion to borini nt being good enough? Never knew players could score when they are injured :S

London red

Would seem to me that if Sturridge gets injured, then Borini is a likely backup. If he's out, then perhaps Aspas could cover instead of playing wide.

If Borini isn't adequate coverage for Sturridge, then we might as well sell him. Not sure who you think we'd get (other than a youngster at about the same level at Borini) who would be willing to be backup to Sturridge?

Brilliant London red, Borini will come good for us.

Heres my guess couts will get 10-15 goals, aspas 10- 15 goals, borini 10-15 goals and of course stevie g 10-15 goals!
nuff sed
MikeyD

27 Jun 2013 22:59:00
Johnson 10/15 goals, agger 10/15 goals and mignolet 10/15 goals. Infact everyone 10/15 goals.

Oh look another no name poster with something clever to say wow!
look at the players and there potential and tell me its not possible.
duck my sick
MikeyD

You forgot Downings 20+ goals.

27 Jun 2013 19:13:59
Just like to say thank you to all the eds for the site and the patience. The site is getting better and better with all the additional options and work that eds are putting in. Ed 030 is starting to do some good blogs and I would like to thank 030 and 052 for their commitment to the site, you don't get as much credit as 001 and 002 but your input is essential in my opinion. No disrespect to 001 and 002 intended. Here's looking forward to a great season for all of us LFC addicts. {Ed030's Note - Thanks mate,Much appreciated. }

I think ed30 is blushing :P but agree with this post!

London red {Ed030's Note - Haha. }

27 Jun 2013 18:22:41
People need to stop looking at who Man Utd, Chelsea, City etc. are buying. It's comparing apples with pears mate. BR wants to play a completely different way than any other PL team. You need to forget the money spent on them or the players they are buying and read up a little on BR and how he likes his teams to play. Have some faith, Bryan

Exactly. system play. its a team game . plus too many cooks etc. man city have spent a billion for their prem title. chelsea 2 billion on their success . all recruited the best at monster prices . xavi iniesta . lahm schweinsteiger etc barca and bayern have brought thru their youth or purchased young and brought them thru with the system and added big buys fair enuf but we don't have that cash .
5 gold stars

Cheers 5 Gold Stars, I thought I was one of a minority when you read some of the posters on here. Here's to a great 2013/14, should be an exciting season with all the managerial changes, Bryan

27 Jun 2013 17:52:21
To any ed's. I think we tried to loan Kevin Gameiro in jan. news today is saying he wants to come. Do you know anything and do you rate him? Thanks

27 Jun 2013 17:43:40
If the story on us going after elia is true he would be a much better alternative to atsu his pace and skills are great and his end product isn't always the best but is a lot better than atsu's end product.

Lil Red

27 Jun 2013 18:09:08
He is also 6 years older.
Another Ryan Babel.
We should look elsewhere. From both.

Atsu is more likely to improve as a player than Elia, who has stagnated for a couple of years.

Similar to Ryan Babel.

The real AG

Elia needs to get his head in order, if he does that he can be a world beater.very talented player has it all

I agree with babel comparisons, has had a few chances to prove himself at juventus and werder bremen and hasn't really done anything of note. would be safer lookin elsewhere

27 Jun 2013 17:41:19
Lads, Lads

Stop wil the hyping up of players BR is signing

Ask yourself this question would Moyes sign them for United?

Would Jose sign them for Chelsea?

Would City sign them?

Would even Wenger or AVB sign them?

Robin in the Hood

What a stupid post!

Chelsea, Utd, City shop in a different market, a market we can't afford or attract the standard of player due to not paying the wages and not being in Champions League. Arsenal are just about in that market too but shopping at the bottom end of it.

Spurs are in the same market as us, hence why they are linked to a lot of the same players and even signed two players we were after last year in Siggurdsson and Dempsey.

Moyes could not afford them and the rest would, I would guess.

K79

I don't know who the other clubs are targetting or signing, but if our new signings turn out to be as good as, or even better than Coutinho and Sturridge (and I'm quite confident that they will do well), I'm glad those clubs have given our new players a miss.

What's your point? None of them would have signed sturridge I guess as they didn't bid when he was available
TSB

27 Jun 2013 18:22:37
Arsenal wanted Mignolet.
Spurs wanted Aspas.
Kolo Toure came from Man City!
Luis Alberto was one of Barca B best players last season. If he was delfou or Jese who played for Castilla ( same level as barca B, we would all masturbate over him)
Also we are Not in the CL and can't pay the same transfer fees or wages like any of the clubs you mention except maybe Tottenham.
And also who cares what other teams sign? What difference does it make for our tactics or starting 11 who Mourinho plays with?
Football is much much more than transfer fees or players names.
We would have signed the Thiago's or Isco but we can't attract such players at the moment! Where have people been for the last 6 years? Without CL. Wake up and support the players willing to fight to take us back where we belong. Maybe in 2 years time our transfers will be of a "higher calibre" but for now am delighted with our signings so far. Please try to understand our squad was thin as ice last season!

Is Moyes & Manchester United in the CL
Is Jose & Chelsea in the CL
Is Pallegrini & City in the CL
Is Wenger & Arsenal in the CL
Is AVB & Spurs in The EL
Are all of the above teams a more attractive proposition and are prepared to offer higher wages?
Are you being pessimistic about how BR perceives our squad and what he can do to improve it?
The answer to all of these questions is yes.
Instead of criticising our squad why don't you wait until September the first and see who we have signed, Mignolet is a very good signing, Toure is an experienced quality CB, Aspas is a very good attacking threat but I know nothing about Luis Alberto to make an assessment on him.

Bollox mate! Sometimes u need to be astute and gamble a bit especially if you don't have a bottomless pit of cash and are Gona be sacked if you don't get top 3! I can think of a few gems who ain't cost much but turned into superstars best example Christiano Ronaldo! I'm glad we are buying young hungry rather than proven and greedy! As long as Rodgers is given the time to see them grow like wenger has at arsenal he has brought players in for nothing and turned into superstars and the same with Ajax and Dorrmund it's the best way just be patient I think we are guna have some side full of flair and creativity

No, but they are all in the CL and have more money than us.

Those managers you mention are in a different phase of building their squads pal.
- AVB inherited a good squad and only needs 2 or 3 good players to get them right up there.
- Moyes' new club just won the league so again just need a couple of top players.
- City haven't exactly signed world beaters either YET now let's be honest.
Remember Navas is unproven in the Premiership as yet. I'm sure he'll do well but it's early days yet.
- Wenger has always signed the type of players we are going for now actually.
This might be his first ever big money summer
I await your reply with open arms kiddo!

How much did all those managers bid for Coutinho and Sturridge?

JRG

Ask yourself this question. Why should we care? They are Liverpool players now. We have our own system with it's own specific roles/positions that needed to be filled. Beyond that, what about all the other factors that come into player transfers that dictate the eventual club i.e. wage demands, transfer fee, squad depth, budget. yada yada. When did interest from the top4 justify a player being a quality purchase? Get a clue man. Your questions really lack any relevancy and just come off like someone trying to burst bubbles.
I agree that some may be overhyping, but that may be down to excitement and optimism.

- As for Chelsea, (forgot about them ha) they've only bought Shurrle as of yet.
The window hasn't even opened yet pal. have a beer and enjoy the shenanigans!

Ronaldo, viera, fabrregas, drogba, kompany, agger, bale, evra, arebeloa,
Alonso, Henry, hypia, cabaye, the list can go on players bought for small ish Fees who turned out to be excellent players if you don't take a gamble you will never no

AVB would! That's how Spurs scout their buys, look at who we are linked with. The rest, probably not but they have big pockets and Champion League football!

I don't think many of them teams were after signing saurez when we bought him .
Or coutinho .

Your right all our new signings must be rubbish

LAVERS

No probably not, but, are Liverpool in the champions league.no. end of. Until there is we can't compete.

Sooty

No one knows what moyes will do

One diffrence in every club u mention champions leauge we don't have it so the money we get is less so we have less for wages we have less for funds unless sfg buck up the cash we have less because champions leauge big big diffrence in type of players in are market whos wages is not 200k + a week and 40 million . be real be a tiny bit smarter . if we got players u wanted and they fail we don't get champ leauge were in dept amazing dept and if we get there were still in dept so is that what u really want for something u love a chance of a leeds united . no need for persons like u unrealistic negativity uneeded . these players are the best of the rest on the brink of being there ready brendon belives these players he can polish them up make them supersars in his team he belives in himself that much and I do to so should we all he is a top manager clever passion just what we need . now the rest needs to belive . if this comes off are club will have players top players next season after they show there talents there value could triple with little outlay . and plan b if all fails we are in a stable finanicial condition its the big picture Liverpool fc its the most important aspect . and we are doing it the right way

Robin in the hood all i'm saying watch these players prove u wrong so what moyes mourinho wenger avb would'nt go for likes of aspas mignolet alberto rodgers is looking for small reputation players so they can be a big hit in our team look at coutinho, sturridge well sturridge was big b4 but even bigger now he's getting into the england team now these are example's of every1 who doubted them even me look at them now they are great players in rodgers we trust lfc-liquid

Yes because they are poor like us. Manchester United earn £50M a year from gate receipts. Likewise now for arsenal. We are 20 years behind on this alone. and they others have rich arab backers. Our potential for spending for the next 10 years is basically 30M per season unless we get champs league as we will a stadium to fund. Even then to maximise cash flow we will constantly have to sell high and buy low so lots more deals like Aspas and not Carroll.

If they don`t have a big budget they definitely wood

That is a silly question, because they haven't.but what makes you so sure they wouldn't be regretting it this time next yr.

Coutinho, Milner, Shurrle - Who would you rather have?

Sturridge, Walcott, Ba - Who would u rather have?

Can I just say as a pool fan
man u have got moyes now not fergie in my OP the difference is massive as much as it pains me to say fergie was 1 of if not the best managers ever. moyes is decent but not great can he get the team to play like fergie did? I think not, the best they can hope for is 3rd or 4th with there current squad. my point is there not title contenders any more (yet) and there's plenty of competiton including us for top 4.
MikeyD

"Navas is unproven in the Premiership as yet"

And all the foreign contingent BR has signed are fully proven in the EPL?

Sturridge is not that good otherwise would city and chelsea have got rid of him?

As for the little brazilian he's not that special, he's not a bad player but he's not exceptional.

Over rating our players while under rating the opposition just means all the joy will turn to rapturous moaning when the results don't come as expected.

Who wants to say otherwise?


If we are not in the "ssame league" as the others on transfer we can't expect to compete with them on the pitch and last season we did not beat any team above us except Spurs and that was a quicky result.
Robin in the hood

27 Jun 2013 15:59:32
Hi eds,

Reading today that Chelsea want to take xabi to Chelsea for 7mil. I think he would be the perfect player to anchor our midfield and we've missed someone of his ability to start attacks. Any chance we might try to bring him back if he's available? {Ed030's Note - Near enough Zero chance. }

27 Jun 2013 17:37:20
The eds have said that if we don't sign Mkhitaryan then we will pursue other attacking players. BR wants goals from midfield so a goalscoring CAM seems on the cards regardless if Mkhitaryan signs so I was wondering if the eds could answer if they know of any others we've been watching?
A few will be moving this summer:
Van Ginkel perhaps? Turan? Firmino? Xhaka? Belhanda? Grenier?

Puzzled Red

27 Jun 2013 18:26:32
What's up with the random name asking? Come on, give the eds a break.

Turan is the only one worth considering from that list in my opinion.

The real AG

I really hope we get this Henrikh charater.

But if we don't I wouldn't mind one of a handly of players.

Erikson
Bernard
Thiago
Ben Arfa


But i'd rather BR got his first choice. I hope the player fancies a move here rather then money elsewhere.

BKP

Second on the list after Mk is Rakitic.

27 Jun 2013 17:29:34
Eds could lfc have looked at player + cash deal for Papadopolous using Skrtel and £5-10million or somethin similar?
Kopendlad {Ed052's Note - no}

LFC could not do that but Noel Edmunds could open up the multi coloured Swapshop and do it for us!

Way to Go.

27 Jun 2013 17:13:08
Aspas given the no.9 shirt. Seems like he's a massive part of BR's plan. I really want to see the lad to well and I think his terrier like work rate and physique will help him cope with the PL

Young Baller

27 Jun 2013 16:54:49
I know this will not be posted but has this great rumour site turned into tedious questions site? {Ed002's Note - Because people like you ask questions all of the time.}

Evidently

27 Jun 2013 16:13:53
Everton have shown interest in buying Stewart Downing for around £7mil plus add ons. Also interest from Fulham, Aston Villa and West Ham.

27 Jun 2013 15:26:02
Iago aspas no9 tells you no one will be coming for suarez bar a hm, eriksen type

Or its just big andys replacement?

Suarez is no 7?

Don't talk nonesense it means absolutely nothing! zilch
The player picks the number. Iago Aspas could have picked 99 if he wanted to, what would have that meant - that aliens were going to decend on anfield on derby day and one was going to nip in at the back post in the 89th minute and nod in the winner!?!

27 Jun 2013 10:23:26
Eds why part ownership's are allowed in England?
Were there any troublesome situations faced by FA in the past?

Chris {Ed002's Note - They are not allowed in England and, putting aside that trouble over Tevez and Mascherano, the rules stop there being issues. It is simply a difference in the rules between some countries and others.}

FIFA should really step in to try and stamp this out somehow worldwide.

Its a complete mess.

Davey Sulls

Davey, I believe they are, i'm sure it was mentioned on here before and in a paper or 2, but I believe it's not until 2015 if it happens.

If they got rid of the rule the whole italian league would turn to shambles and then we wouldn't really know about Sanchez, Marquinho, even Lamela {Ed002's Note - The problem is that there will never be a level playing field country to country whilst there is so much disparity in income.}

27 Jun 2013 15:20:31
so I am am just throwing this out there but two seasons ago if I remember correctly our D was pretty good and our problem was goals. Then next season were getting goals and our D is bad. it made me think and to me the only main difference that seems like it may have had such a big affect is the loss of Steve clarck. Why not look to bring in a asst. coach that with a strong D philosophy to try to sort our D back out and maybe bring squirtles blast back. Idk just a thought.

ElRobbeNino

27 Jun 2013 15:39:56
Good logic mate, I completely agree
Jay

He's done as an assistant, he wants to be a manager now and is doing better than most at West Brom

Good point but it's funny how when carragher came back into the side at skrtels expense, we looked more solid and didn't concede loads like earlier on in the season

Your gaggin for the D

The difference could also be the appointment of BR during that time and implementing a different philosophy and style. It demands more technical passing from deeper areas which has been a bit challenging for some players in our back. We also seemed to make a lot of defensive errors leading to goals last season, more than I can recall in the previous years.

27 Jun 2013 10:37:14
tony barret of the times reporting interest in Deulofeu is real but only if and it's a big 'IF' we can't agree a fee for Atsu, can you add to this ed, s? {Ed002's Note - I explained the situation yesterday as I understand it to be.}

27 Jun 2013 14:38:34
Any truth that we have made a bid for Marco Van Ginkel in the region of 12 million pounds? Apparently Chelsea were after him but we have shifted our attention to him rather than HM. Van Ginkels agent said just yesterday that a deal with Chelsea wasn't even close, and the player is looking for first team chances which would be unlikely at Chelsea. {Ed052's Note - no}

27 Jun 2013 14:33:35
First time poster.
I personally think we need to get rid of Suarez, just because
we have defended him to the hilt through everything he has done last season. Use the money to get benteke or luakaku

Crags

You couldn't afford Lukaku. Even with the money from Suarez

Lukaku is a great prospect and Chelsea are not going to sell him.

Were not a top4 side, so we can't afford to be so touchy.
Suarez stays, we reach top4, all this nonsense will be like water off a ducks back.
What if Suarez leaves and we finish mid-table? What will you say then? To that Scenario.
Rodgers will try to convince him to stay.

We should give Suarez to barca for deulofeu and sanchez

Lukaku won't be coming to us. He is Chelski's new Drogba. Why would they sell to us? Benteke would not fit into our style of play, and would cost a stupid amount of money. Mkhitaryan, Aspas and Alberto should suffice for this transfer window.

27 Jun 2013 14:20:40
Latest on mhkitaryan eds? Also how many more will come in or does it depend on how many go out? {Ed052's Note - Nothing new. Why do people keep asking the same questions. I tend not to get angry with posters, even with abuse, but even I am getting stupidly fed up now}

27 Jun 2013 14:09:40
hi eds
of all the names being mentioned for CB zambrano seems to have dissappeared, is there a reason for this? were we ever considering him? following the recent turn of events ie llori being priced higher than we expected and also papa, is he a serious option? {Ed052's Note - I guess we have just moved onto other options}

27 Jun 2013 13:53:41
Here's a summary of possible Liverpool transfer business:

1) Reina: Still linked with a move away. But noises have since been made that he will stay put, despite Mingolet's arrival, as competition.

2) Coates: The player reportedly wants to discuss his future with Rodgers. He looks set to leave as Rodgers can't give him 1st team football.

3) Skrtel: player said himself that he will consider offers. His agent has since said that the Slovakian could stay put. It is likely though that an offer will be made for him and he will depart - last season showed he's fallen out of favour somewhat.

4) Agger: Monaco were linked, but the move has been rubbished. Barcelona now linked again. But a departure is unlikely. The player is happy at Anfield and the club have no plans to sell.

5) Henderson: Linked with a move away lately. Highly unlikely he'll leave.

6) Downing: Rodgers is looking at other wingers. Likely to leave IF the right offer comes in.

7) Shelvey: Out of favour under Rodgers. Linked with West Ham, Stoke, Aston Villa, Norwich and now Swansea. LFC will probably listen to offers of £5m plus.

8) Spearing: Will leave if any decent offer comes in. Not in the managers plans.

9) Assaidi: Linked again with a return to the Eredivisie. Will almost certainly be off this summer.

10) Suso: Could be loaned out. Especially now the club has brought in Alberto.

11) Pacheco: Never really made it. He'll be off.

12) Suarez: Looks likely to leave. Situation could be clearer next week when he returns to England.

1) Mkhitaryan: Talks ongoing. He's Liverpool's top target. But a move is complicated. The club hope a deal can be reached in the next week or two.

2) Eriksen: Was of much interest to Liverpool. But Mkhitaryan now seems the top target. A move still shouldn't be completely ruled out. But currently it seems unlikely.

3) Benteke: LFC made an enquiry last month. They will monitor his situation but a move will only be a possibility if Suarez leaves.

4) Wanyama: Liverpool have made no offer for him and have other priorities to sort out soon. But he has been looked at by the Liverpool scouting team.

5) Alderweireld: Liverpool were extremely interested in the Belgian. But his price is high and Liverpool have since looked elsewhere. Still a possible target though.

6) Papadopoulos: A top defensive target for LFC. But Schalke want a lot for him and negotiations have stalled. I wouldn't rule out Liverpool returning with interest, but a lot depends on Skrtel's future as well as Schalke budging from their demands.

7) Ilori: A player Rodgers wants to replace Coates. His club want too much at the moment though. But Liverpool are still trying to sort a deal. Could be made clearer after he returns from u20's duty.

8) Atsu: A top target to replace Assaidi and possibly Downing. Liverpool are apparently frontrunners for his signature.

9) Deulofeu: Liverpool had interest in January. Liverpool haven't made any sort of bid for him though.

10) Digne: We were interested, but it looks like he's moving elsewhere.

Hope that helps.

FranklyMrShankly

What about Gerrard is he off?

Thanks buddy good effort put in

redness

27 Jun 2013 13:46:45
One of my best friends has spent the last three years in Vigo, Spain on business. He had the opportunity to see aspas play on several occasions and swears that he is going to be a massive hit at anfield. Just because he isn't a "big" name means nothing. He is a very skillful and tricky player that posseses pace, power, and skill. Most of all though he claims that he will die for the shirt he wears. He will fight with everything he has until the final whistle and leaves nothing on the pitch. While in Vigo he also met his fianc� who is a native of Vigo. She has three brothers and my friend tells me that they all have aspas jerseys and love him for his heart and desire above all else. I have a feeling he will quickly endear himself to us and provided he can settle quickly, will become a massive hit. Just passing along what I have been told. , really looking forward to seeing him play for us.

In order to stop the facade of Suarez refusing to play FIFA must introduce some form of worldwide ban for, say 2 years, otherwise players can simply down tools. They should also fine clubs like Real Madrid for complicity. If not & Suarez refuses to play he knows that eventually LFC will have no option to give in to his demands. He has enough money to live on so stopping his pay will not achieve results. Some concerted action at highest level is now required otherwise contracts will become worthless bits of paper.

Was happy when I saw we were getting aspas, last season I noticed he was scoring and playing well for celta vigo in la liga. He has that hunger aswell which we need, trying hard to score and create goals for the whole 90 mins, looking forward to seeing him play for us. Jdog

27 Jun 2013 13:40:00
Hey eds, can you provide any kind of basic list of what the options being looked at for a 1st choice centre back are please? I know Papadopoulos' knee is knackered, Williams is overpriced & I'm not sure Alderweireld would be good enough so any ideas who else is on the short-list?

(Any would be great as my last umpteen questions haven't been posted) :p {Ed052's Note - Ilori. We haven't signed him yet because we're struggling to come to a deal about money. Botia has been mentioned as an option but I don't believe that there is any confirmed interest in him. We walked away from Adlerweirld because of cost. There has been, and wont be any interest in Williams. Papa is very, very expensive}

There will be no interest in Williams.
Alderweireld and Papadopoulos are expensive, but will we go in for them?
Is Alberto Botia now our only target?
Or is Kurt Zouma another target?

I appreciate you asking me to read previous posts but I'm asking for a comparison of the players mentioned. {Ed052's Note - We have no interest in Williams. We walked away from A because of cost, but Papa if over priced. Perhaps we will look to A again. I've said theres nothing confirmed on Botia. And Ed002 suggests we look to Zouma, which we haven't yet.}

What about albiol? {Ed052's Note - What about him. Its just another random player we have no interest in}

27 Jun 2013 13:00:01
Sakho rumours recycled. YAWN (no not YNWA) Have to make sure as I'd like to see him at LFC. So, any truth on today's rumour EDs?
Carlo {Ed052's Note - Sakho, no. Although he may be available}

27 Jun 2013 12:52:42
Aspas has number 9 shirt

Mignolet 22.

Slightly surprised Aspas has the 9, but best of luck to him

The lad is an aggressive, bullish and forceful striker. I am sure he will do well for us. Welcome Iago Aspas#9

27 Jun 2013 12:12:20
So Aspas has been GIVEN the #9. I would have preferred Sturridge to get it as I thought he earned it last season. Thoughts? {Ed052's Note - Its very rare that players change a shirt number once they've already been given one, so that why DS probably hasn't changed}

Players choose their numbers, and sturridge chose 15 because it was free, and the number he wore when he did well at Bolton
Aspas choosing 9 shows me he's confident at least.

Think DS wears 15 . think its his lucky number

Sturridge chose the no. 15, which he wore at Bolton I think, probably because he was very successful during that time.

The real AG

Sturridge loves the No 15 and stated so when he first arrived, so why would he change?

I like your best players to have big numbers! I think it makes it look like have a squad full of quality. City are a good example with Tevez Aguero Balotelli Toure etc.

But the big question is who will be wearing the iconic number 7 shirt.

Red Custard

Plus think about all the people that have already gone out and bought no15

DS wore 15 at Bolton where he done grate that's why he choose it for Liverpool he wouldn't change it for that alone

I remember Smicer used to change his shirt number every season!

Sam Adzii JFT96 YNWA

Coutinho to take 7 and leave 10 open for whoever

Coutinho is our #10, quite fittingly imo.

27 Jun 2013 11:53:17
Aspas is the new #9 then!
Obviously numbers aren't important but what are peoples' thoughts? Seems a good number 9 for our system. Good luck to him!

RobInRed

I think Sturridge deserved the #9.

Personally think if they arrived together Sturridge would be the 9. But given he has 15 there is no point in changing it.

RobInRed

It should've been Sturridge

Rodgers must think highly of him to give him the no.9 shirt.Rodgers is a fine job.We will only get better and better as time goes on.

I think if Suarez goes Sturridge could take number 7 from him.
Sturridge and Aspas as our strike force, I'm happy with that.

27 Jun 2013 11:15:54
From Cavani:

"I love Naples. It's my town and my heart is there. But when I was here in Brazil I've heard untrue rumours and things about me, " Cavani told the media in South America.

"For this reason, now I want to talk as soon as possible with president De Laurentiis.

"We must clear ourselves. I'll talk with him, as it's done between men, really soon."

Suarez should take a leaf out of this guys book. Talk to Rogers like a man and tell him what he wants, the whole world is driven by money and it makes me sick.

Ed am I right in thinking the only reason why Suarez is doing what he is doing is so he can instigate a move without submitting a transfer request? If he wants to leave then we can't stop him but after everything we have done for him the least he could do would be to submit a transfer request? {Ed052's Note - Suarez wants a move and will do whatever he can to do that. I wouldn't be surprised to see a TR go in, but it wont be for a bit if it does}

A club like Liverpool and it's fans deserve a he'll of a lot more respect than what Suarez is showing right now. That's before the club stuck by him time after time for his stupid acts.
He could leave and do it properly without upsetting everybody but he has chosen not to.

MIKEY

I understand but I know this is idealistic thinking but surely Suarez must appreciate everything we have done for him and fair enough if he wants to leave to progress his career or get away from the press or whatever reason it is.

But surely he should come out and say I love Liverpool but I want to leave here is my transfer request?

My understanding ed is Suarez wants the Real Madrid move and he is getting is management team to do the deal.
Personal terms have been agreed in princuple at loss in wages compared what's already being paid. RM offered 90k a week.

Now the stumbling block is the transfer fee.

Suarez does have a 40m buy out clause which RM refuse to pay ( there main target is Bale).
RM want to pay 25m - 30m tops.

Liverpool will not sell at that price so he stays a Liverpool player.

Now Suarez might be dignified and say fair enough then play anther season or till january atleast or .

Rumour has it that controversal Suarez will not return to Liverpool in an attempt to force a move.
This I feel is an ill advised plan from his or Reals team.

Expect a drama from this one

No one really knows anything! All these know alls, just make me laugh.
One thing is for certain, Suarez is a World Class player and Rodgers as Liverpool Manager would not be doing his job properly and in the best interest of Lfc if he didn't try to perusade Suarez to stay for at least one more season.
We need to get back to top4 status asap.

27 Jun 2013 10:51:16
im glad that we don not have Liverpool fc staff giving info away to people not involved with the clubs running

27 Jun 2013 10:25:30
Ed: has Liverpool considered looking at Micah Richards as a possible option? {Ed052's Note - not that I know of}

Just seen reports this morning that BR is considering a £12 million move for Richards.can play RB and CB

He was dreadfull at the olympics last year . doesn't get much playing time at all if u notice . I don't rate him . 12 mil also . steep . surely better centre back options than him . u would pay that for wanyama. he can play cb dcm and cm .just my take not post bashing
5 gold stars

Much playing time? he's been injured for pretty much the entire last two seasons when he's been fit he's been in the squad look at early of last season when he replaced zabaletta. Get your facts right but I agree asking price is too steep and I think his injuries are a source for concern.

Micha Richards is a quality player. Probably have on the wide and put Glen on the left but I don't see use really needing him when we've just signed Kolo and got the likes of Kelly, Wisdom and Flanno who can play on the right.

FowlerGod.

Always injured and not technically better than Skrytel, so why would we be interested?

27 Jun 2013 09:47:42
Quite happy with the type of signings we've made so far but getting slightly worried that we haven't improved our defence yet, scoring goals wasn't a problem last year, stopping the opposition was. Also all this Mickey terrain nonsense as well, we haven't even bid for him have we? If a club like Borrusia Dortmund have bid for him then unless we move quickly I think we've already lost our chance.

We've just acted quickly from the off, we're far from finished, We'll be signing a couple of top defenders no doubt. judging on the current situation betime the season starts we're going to have a solid squad, I wouldn't worry about that.

Or dodged a bullet. His attitude is very questionable and he could cause problems for us down the line in a year or 2.

Sanchez for me all day long if there was any chance. he is still young (24).

Aspas Coutinho Sanchez
Sturridge

would be frightening and very fluid with all players playing in probably their best natural position and interchangable.

but alas I think I'm dreaming with Sanchez.

I will be happy if Mkhitaryan joins because he's a class player but I won't be crying if we don't either.

I'm sure there will be a big signing this year for our LW. Got the feeling.

Davey Sulls

Happy with average

G-Man

27 Jun 2013 09:25:40
we will sign papadopoulos and mkhitaryan

I hope so
We have very good squad then, especially if Suarez stays (although unlikely)

27 Jun 2013 09:12:33
If the transfer market ended tomorrow we kept who we have and have signed would people be happy with the squad?

27 Jun 2013 10:02:32
The transfer window has yet to open so your question is all speculation. But no, we need to improve on Skrtel, Coates and Downing.

[The only REDS]

How can you close something that isn't even open? Ask the same question again on August 31st. There are a lot of things that can happen in the next 64.5 days. Speculation doesn't sign players or earn points. Let's just say that at the moment we are making more progress than we have since FSW left.
DM2013

I think it's fair to say his question is hypothetically speaking if we didn't sell or sign anyone else between now and August 31 would people be happy.

Yes would be my answer. We've improved our attacking options quite a bit and we haven't weakended defence. We could badly do with another top CB but at least Mignolet would push Reina all the way so GK would be improved and Toure is a solid signing.

To be fair aspas Alberto toure and mignolet are signed I'm asking if we didn't sell any important player would these add the extra bit we missed last season

We've improved on Downing.
A fit Kelly is better than Coates.
Wisdom is a year older.
Skrtel is the only issue, but Toure and Agger are good enough so long as they're fit.

Making Progress?


Every time I read abou Making Progress it reminds me of the Bowling for Soup song
Are you kidding me?

G-Man

27 Jun 2013 13:22:54
G-man. Are you kidding?
I could write 5 pages of the progress made this season but iam not going to bother because it will be for deaf ears and wasted on you.
I have supported Liverpool for 30 years, seen all highs and lows, seen all kind of managers and football but I really can't help but feel we are finally moving in the right direction.

-We scored 27 more goals than the season before.
-Conceded only 2 more despite playing much more offensively.
-10 more points.
- Played half the season with 1 striker.
-Since January we've been in the top 4-form table.
-Our squad was half the size of the squad last season.
-Bellamy, Kuyt, Adam, Carroll, Maxi, Doni, Aquilani, Aurelio, all replaced by academy players
and a really bad summer window resulted in a slow start.
-For the first time since the EPL started 18 different players scored for Liverpool this season.
-Only the 3rd time ever we scored 70+ league goals.
-Last season we also played 10 games less.
-If you're talking about the cups, and claim to understand football then you know anything can happen. Wigan won a cup, so did Swansea. Wigan ain't even in the same league anymore. And Swansea beat a league 2 side which beat a PL club to reach the final so that's a non argument with the extreme small squad we had at the start of the season.
-We've played some of the best football for years and scored some spectacular team goals.
-Despite loosing and drawing some games I honestly 100% feel that we deserved to win most of our games based on performance. Only 4-5 games out of 50 or more that left me really disappointed performance wise.

If all of this are all not facts to suggest solid progress from the previous season I don't know how your mind operates. Ofcourse we want better but the only thing that matters is you can't get better with a worse squad, but he BR actually did. So I feel the progress we saw the 2nd half of the season will continue.
I feel wasted my time writingthis even though I know you won't even bother to understand howwrong you are G-man or even come u with 1 valid argument to suggest otherwise. I'll be waiting.

[The only REDS]

Good points, much appreciated

"If you're talking about the cups, and claim to understand football then you know anything can happen. "

Hope you remember that this coming season!

And you won't be an excuse merchant for BR when things go bad

27 Jun 2013 09:02:53
Do you think if Liverpool sell Suarez, rodgers will spend some money on trying to get Kevin gameiro as they showed intreats in him before?

27 Jun 2013 09:42:52
I would personally love this one to happen. he is quick and score goals. and would get in for 8 mill.
he has got some good experience. and can play anywhere in front 3.

27 Jun 2013 05:36:56
Anybody else think that 3rd and 4th playoff matches are pointless at tournaments? {Ed002's Note - They are an opportunity for squad players to make an appearance.}

Dont think It's always pointless personally. I've been to a World Cup 3rd and 4th place match and it was great. 100,000+ fans, both teams wanted to win and played all their starters. With smaller competitions I can see it being a milder affair obviously. I do understand your point but don't think applies in every instance.

27 Jun 2013 08:25:24
Jordan Henderson's best attributes.

His one touch passing and 1-2 passes.
His first touch.
His technique is outstanding.
His incredible stamina and work-rate.
His great teamwork. Very unselfish.
His finishing ability, some wonderful goals this season prove that his finishing is improving all the time.
His potential is imence, he is improving each game. Also improving different aspects of his game, like his strength, his shooting, and his passing.
His pace is outstanding, the fastest Central Midfielder in our squad, watch his sprints up and down the full length of the pitch.
He has become very strong and added a lot of muscle as well.
His pressing and closing down are 2nd to none.
His attitude couldn't be better and the way he celebrates after scoring is a joy to behold, he is almost as happy as me ;))
He is 22 and by the time he is 24 we will have one of the best midfielders around.
Jordan Henderson YNWA son. Forget the clueless haters.

[The only REDS]

Has he got no negatives then? I mean if he's that good we will have to stop Real buying him too :-|.

Nonsense! We all know his best attribute is playing keepy upy with a tennis ball

Completely agree with you. would be a big loss to lose him now when he is starting to show what he can give to our team
would love to have wanyama but not at hendo's expense

His first touch is pretty poor to be honest

Very talented lad who I think will develop into a very good box to box midfielder.

Unfortunately he does struggle for confidence if he missplaces a pass or two early on.

But having Gerrard there beside him in games and training is invaluable, Jordan couldn't ask for anyone better to learn from. Let's not forget he is still only 23 years old and is still learning.

The only thing I don't get is why everyone slags him off if he plays a poor pass or too. Dirk Kuyt played countless poor passes (im not hating on Kuyt but it's true) but it was always forgotten about because his workrate was incredible, Henderson works just as hard but isn't afforded the same praise?

27 Jun 2013 09:44:39
man. it took 76 gmae sactually for him to show some engine.
With this rate. he would probably show his full potential in 2015.
together with allen, two awful purchase from Liverpool FC,

I think people on this website totally go OTT on players. Henderson is pretty average. Allen is the worst 15 million pound signing LFC have ever made. People say he will come good well I can't see it. BR has made some good signings but Allen is not Liverpool standard and was the most expensive one. I was furious we spent that much on him.

27 Jun 2013 10:18:52
He has negatives as well but I liked to focus on the positives.

His dribbling is not so good.
His shooting is very inconsistent.
He could improve a lot on his tackling and bravery so he doesn't back off so much.
He seems to have a bad game if he misplaced a 2 or 3 passes.
Some games he runs out of ideas.
But at 22 nothing he can't work on and improve.


[The only REDS] {Ed052's Note -

27 Jun 2013 10:26:18
Maybe 15 mil was a bit much, but the kid has been playing injured since the end of last year, and before then, he was really starting to cone into his own, and was keeping us going along with sterling, when a lot of players were seriously underperforming

27 Jun 2013 10:33:07
Glad you agree ed 052. At least am sure you know your football.

[The only REDS] {Ed052's Note - I wasn't agreeing, more deleting the last paragraph o your post}

27 Jun 2013 10:48:02

The only REDS {Ed052's Note - No, you just don't have to use offensive language. You can disagree without swearing}

I like Henderson, he's good lad and always gives 100% and came in for some unfair critiscism in his early days with us. But I have to say, if we sold him? Would we miss him? I don't think so?
I my opinion he's one of those players that is a great squad member but will never be a first name on the teamsheet type of player.
We have too many supporters that go ott either in praise or criticism.

The Only Reds can anly abuse those who disagree with him, its pretty obvious!

27 Jun 2013 04:04:49
Does anybody know if the gerrard testimonial is going to be aired on tv?

BT got it

Yes, BT tv will show it

27 Jun 2013 08:06:28
Good morning eds.
With Sporting asking crazy money for Ilori do you think Toby Alderweireld might become an option?
Would he be open to come to Liverpool? And is he really close to finalize a deal to B. Leverkusen?
Cheers.
Ps. Keep up the wonderful work.
Have a nice day.

[The only REDS] {Ed002's Note - Try the search function.}

27 Jun 2013 08:52:06
Ok. I tried it, but it didn't say if the player would be open to come to Liverpool. Anyways, thanks.

The only REDS {Ed002's Note - I expected Alderweireld to go to Spurs to replace Gallas or Roma to replace Marquinhos. Liverpool decided the asking price was too high, but it is certainly less than that being asked for Papadopoulos. It looks likely that a move to Bayer Leverkusen could go ahead although maybe Liverpool will look to him again. I cannot say what the player feels about a move to Anfield.}

27 Jun 2013 07:48:53
I received a mail from a mate of mine who is a gunners supporter. I told him they have a good team and are lucky to have made it into the champions league. Had we not messed up in a few games it would have been us there. In addition to being a good team they would beat most teams.

Like I said most teams but LFC is not one of those teams. We are not just a club but an institution. We follow the social ideal of always supporting one another that's why YNWA. We are the club that the Londoners love to hate. Players will come and go but LFC will always be here. No fellow scousers I am not William Wallace singing the battle cry.

It's just that I know how hard the eds and others try to keep us informed. The insatiable appetite to know what's happening regarding LFC drives us crazy but PLEASE take a step back and breathe and relax. We are never going to change the transfer dealings so let's support what the eds are doing and wait for the season to start.

South African Red

27 Jun 2013 01:56:03
If henrikh doesn't sign Then who is Liverpool's replacement?.

Eriksen. Hopefully.

He'll sign 100%

Alberto and Aspas

27 Jun 2013 00:21:34
Hi Eds, as always many thanks for all your time and efforts in bringing us the latest news regarding LFC.
Might I ask your opinion on Henrikh, and the media reports that he went AWOL. is this truly the type of player that LFC want, one who is, let's say, somewhat untrustworthy, and unreliable, possibly even with his own personal agenda.
Your thoughts (if possible).
Regards Pinot Noir. {Ed002's Note - Answered earlier.}

27 Jun 2013 00:05:33
Ed002, just for clarity if you would. A week or so back you mentioned about Agger being interested to hrar what Monaco had to offer. Did Agger find out what they had to offer and didn't pursue it or did Monaco go cold on the idea.

Secondly, Barca seemed quite interested last Summer on Agger. Again did Agger not want to join or more of a case that Barca pulled the plug on the move? Cheers.

The Irish Rover {Ed002's Note - His agent would have known what was offered but don't expect anything to come of it. Barcelona are considering Agger but much depends on what happens with others.}

26 Jun 2013 23:57:33
Do you still expect Ilori to sign eds? {Ed002's Note - Probably.}

26 Jun 2013 23:38:56
Eds if we don't get mickey, Who would we go for? Eriksen? Honda? I have no clue.

26 Jun 2013 21:39:48
Hello Ed, do Chelsea have any current interest in Mkhitaryan? {Ed002's Note - Nope.}