Liverpool Banter Archive April 01 2015

01 Apr 2015 22:37:48
Once you've planted the seed, you can never go back.

We've put up with it on far too many occasions now Liverpool fans.

If he signs, he'll moan again in two years.

Don't hold us to ransom as we're sick of it.

Get rid.

01 Apr 2015 23:35:14
I am with you on that. So very dissapointing. You would expect someone so young that has a lot of potential but also so much to work on, to focus on a. how he can improve and b. how he can try and help this squad which everyone can see has great potential, to win trophies - a bit of challange at least in the next 3-4 years.

If he would have done that, score 15 goals and give 10 assists for 4 or 5 seasons and still no major trophies and no attempt to do something about it by the club, if then he says I want to try my luck elsewhere, well fair enough. maybe just.

But he basically says that he couldn't be bothered to make the effort to try to make a change in a team like Liverpool (who played this year in the CL and is three wins away from winning the FA cup). He prefers to move to one of the teams that have so much money they can buy every available (or non available) player on the planet, including from the main rivals and this way buy themselves trophies. He will probably play there considerable less but at least he can put a lot of trophies in his cupboard straight from his 21st birthday.

I find it quite sad really. I know you can say the same about the Southampton players that came to us but first of all they were older and second they could at least argue that if they don't move now to a big team they will never get another offer.

I don;t mind him leaving if we get decent amount for him but am worried about the knock on effect in term of big names refusing to come. Suarez going last season ruined our season and Sterling going next summer after it will obvioulsy be dragged for months, will not help us starting the next year. And him joining a rival PL team will not help.

02 Apr 2015 16:48:04
I can`t see him being a certain starter in the City`s and Chelsea`s of today. At the Arse, maybe 100k is not enuff then he would have made his bedd and it will be time to lie in it. His advisors have led him down this path and maybe, the damage is done. HOWEVER, I disagree that his departure if there is one, will hinder us cis to me, we will have Ibe, Marko, Tex and maybe Depay or a better option to fill his spot so IMO, we will be more than fine and he will DEFO not be missed.

03 Apr 2015 01:56:07
Probably the first time I've agreed with you Davey!

01 Apr 2015 20:01:29
Why all this hate towards Sterling.

The boy is one of the top talents in Europe and has played several positions this year without complaining, often in positions and formations which do not suit him.

I like the fact he is ambitious and if the club can't match that ambition, sell him and buy better than we did with the Suarez money.

I would rather have players at my club who want to reach the top than hangers on stealing a living that are not worthy of wearing the Liver bird on their chest.

If the club qualified for CL this season as they should have with the money spent Sterling's contract would have been signed months ago.

Blame Rogers and the committee if he leaves not the kid, who will have his pick of clubs if he does move on.

01 Apr 2015 20:41:29
Are there any posts on here not about sterling?
It's getting a bit tedious now.

01 Apr 2015 20:44:36
I'd rather have a player at the club who wants to be there, He clearly doesn't. Since his contract negotiations stalled and hit the headlines, he has been consistently poor in a red shirt.
But people won't acknowledge this for some reason? his head is already away and has been the last couple of months.
He wants to win trophies. fair enough can't see him doing too much of that at Arsenal, but he is flattered by their interest and he is a London but don't forget.
If he thinks he's talented enough to play his favourite position for the likes of Real Madrid,Bayern Munich, Man city he's deluded.
Ibe for me is showing more maturity as a footballer than sterling ever has,
LFC need to make sure they sell while his stock is still high,
He doesn't want to be here we need to let it him go.

01 Apr 2015 20:50:08
Yes MIKEY1985 , we are signing Barry Chuckle , Steven Hawking & a traffic cone in the summer to replace him ha ha

01 Apr 2015 22:10:02
Elderslie, business as usual then

01 Apr 2015 22:23:52
Elderslie in your post it says blame Rodgers. I have never seen those two words on these pages before. It gets to predictable. So is Sterling development not down to Rodgers?

01 Apr 2015 23:09:19
Get real. Sterling don't deserve money he's demanding.
Score 20 goals a season pal, consistently and then ask for big money.
James Rodriguez, Paul Pogba, Marcos Reus, Mario Gotze have produced/ done better and not even on half money Sterling demanding
I'd let him rot in reserves. See who willing to pay £100k per week after that!!

01 Apr 2015 23:12:49
His agents brainwashing him. Trying to manufacture massive pay deal, like SUAREZ agents done, at least SUAREZ produced game in, game out.
Sterling only done interview because agents think they can pressure LFC . If he genuinely has other Clubs willing to pay what he wants . Then why haven't they declared their interest?
My Club will be around long after him, I'd get rid,

01 Apr 2015 23:33:39
The player and the manager should get the credit but IMO, most should go to the player and Sterling should get the credit for striving to get better. IMO, fans have fallen for the media circus around Sterling and have turned against him instead of letting the process play out and debate the issues thereafter. I feel for the boy.

02 Apr 2015 00:19:38
Sterling would walk into city's team. he's better than navas and nasri and milner outwide

02 Apr 2015 13:25:49
Mighty Reds ,

The development of Sterling is mainly down to the boy himself in the same way that the lazy performances of Balotelli over the last few years are also his responsibility.

When I say blame Rogers and the committee I mean for the inept way Suarez was replaced, having had a year's notice he would be leaving.

If this was dealt with better and the team performed as they should I've no doubt Raheem would feel he can win trophies and play regular CL football at Liverpool, as it stands currently that's not guaranteed.

Hopefully the club can convince him better players are coming and he stays as he is going to be a star in future years.

02 Apr 2015 17:11:06
Good shout there, derby.

01 Apr 2015 19:40:44
I doubt sterling has enough desire to stay with liverpool and feel sure if serious top team who are capable of winning major trophies come in for him he will be gone .this is football now and we still have some way to go to compete with the moneybags

01 Apr 2015 18:42:45
Sell sterling if he wants to go and buy Depay, also we badly need a new forward as Sturridge is too often injured.

01 Apr 2015 20:27:33
Depay is class

01 Apr 2015 22:46:22
Yeah because he's going to choose Liverpool when we're selling players like Sterling? We should be selling Balotelli, Lambert, Johnson, Borini.
They Seriously need a rethink our owners because these transfers are just useless from this committee

01 Apr 2015 23:43:23
Seen Depay last couple of games and he is a beast of a player.

01 Apr 2015 18:56:20
Arsenal fan here.
The sterling situation is an interesting one just wondering if you think he will go. Or what wage he would stay for.

I'm told Sturridge is on 150k you should be offering him the same I believe. Champs league. More money and a return to London could be to hard to resist. Not saying hel join us big ask that

01 Apr 2015 19:24:03
I think he will go bud, his head has been swayed by agents and the whole money world of football. He said he's not greedy but he has turned down 100k a week at 20yo ?? He is decent but he ain't bigger than the club, I think he will go abroad or maybe to City, no disrespect to you as it does look like you will finish in that much loved top 4 again. We will see suppose. I will be gutted if he leaves and its a massive loss. Others will make light of it and Rosie it up but not me. Gutted.

01 Apr 2015 19:54:17
Scous . I'm a massive Jordan ibe fan too I do believe he will be a top player of can stay injury free. Bit like gnabry for us. Both insane talents.

On sterling I feel him being on 35k a week now and you should of gone in bog last year and got it sorted. Time will tell mate and good luck for end of season. Just not the weekends game :)

01 Apr 2015 22:05:18
If he goes I hope we get as much money as possible this time and sell him to a foreign club not a direct opponent.

01 Apr 2015 18:13:26
Banter please saw this aprils fools gag on facebook and thought i would share it .



Steven Gerrard could have played his last game for Liverpool following a spectacular bust-up with manager Brendan Rodgers.


The Reds captain, who is currently serving a three-match suspension, has already agreed to join Los Angeles Galaxy at the end of the campaign.


But the chances of Gerrard returning to action before then have grown increasingly unlikely after the 34-year-old stumbled across a scrap of paper with his name on, tucked inside an envelope in Rodgers' office.


One the eve of each new season, the Northern Irishman is believed to pick out the names of three players he feels will cost Liverpool over the course of the campaign.


These are then written down and stored in sealed envelopes in a Fileofax on Rodgers' desk.
In past years, the Reds boss has opted to play safe by selecting those he knows have nowhere better to be, like Brad Jones or Jose Enrique, but changed his approach after Gerrard's slip against Chelsea last April and subsequent sabotage of England's World Cup hopes, two months later.
Rodgers was also well aware that this season could prove to be Gerrard's last, but came unstuck when he left his Melwood office unattended while making his way to a forgotten tooth-whitening appointment.


"Brendan was in a hurry and unlike usual, left his door unlocked while he was out, " a Liverpool source revealed.


"Fabio Borini was on his way there to question his lack of recent action and noticed his manager's error.


"The lads thought it'd be funny to try and find the envelopes, so they could take the piss out of Brad and Jose again, like last year. Some of them had speculated that Glen Johnson's name might also make an appearance.


"A few others, Mario (Balotelli) and Mama (Sakho), posed for selfies in Rodgers' Rosary beads, while Jordan Rossiter and Jon Flan(agan) stuck fake moustaches on photos of his family - despite Joe Allen telling them not to.


"The banter quickly stopped when they finally found the envelopes and saw Stevie's name instead. All the other lads left but he was waiting when Brendan got back.
Gerrard is said to have confronted his boss, who tried to talk his way out of the situation by explaining, in unembellished depth, why he was in fact right all along.


The long-serving midfielder was then heard to mumble: "Brendan F***ing Todger more like" as he stormed off the premises.


He is reported to have informed the staff on reception he would not be coming back.

01 Apr 2015 20:54:49
Haha love it.

01 Apr 2015 14:11:51
Hello to all the EDS and fellow REDS

Let's hope the EDS publish this:

This season and where we end up will be the best reality check for Liverpool fans for decades.
Is Sterling a bad guy if we fail to qualify for CL, and he wants to leave?
Would you blame him for leaving, regardless of what we offer him?
Should we have re-strengthened during the window knowing we are light weight up front?

Should FSG have bankrolled the purchase of a new striker? Should we expect FSG to show a statement of intent and invest heavily in new players? Did/do they trust the present transfer committee?

So many repeated questions, I know, but they can only be answered once the season is done and dusted.
Every match becomes a 'now or never' contest and it's frustrating for fans. People are even talking about BR being replaced!
Amazing how little fans understand about football. 'BR stumbled on the new formation by accident?' the mind boggles. can we compete financially with ManU, Chelsea, Arsenal or ManC? No! So if BR gets us to the Top4 he should be given the accolade he deserves and fans to begin to learn football and not just watch and shout!

Moan over, good luck for rest of season. YNWA

{Ed001's Note - learn football? Arrogant comment, you need to remove your head from your rectum. If Rodgers gets us top 4 he has done nothing more than he should have done and the only accolade should be the possibility of another year to try again and actually do better next time. If you think that learning football involves making excuses for failure, then you are the one in need of educating yourself.}

01 Apr 2015 15:23:49
If Rodgers had starting the season playing with the same tactics we have been doing since xmas, we would quite happily sat in the top 4

01 Apr 2015 15:37:01
You are absolutely right! If he gets top 4 we should praise him and he should keep his job! BR can then revert to his favorite system again and half way through the season when we are let's say 10th, he will decide to change his system because 3 times doesn't seem to be enough for him to realize his system doesn't work. After all this, every game should be a must win, and if we are lucky we might get top 4! And since his summer spending spree got us into trouble financially, we might be tempted to sell our best players in order to buy and he can go waste that as well on players we don't really need and might come good in a couple of years, maybe even more. So yeah, let's praise a manager who might get us the absolute minimum of what should of been a year to reestablish ourselves, gone to waste!

01 Apr 2015 15:30:20
'Learn football' seems harsh, I think maybe this could have be worded better. Football is game of opinion which is what divides many. But I think he does raise a fair point about stumbling upon the system etc. That just is downright unfair on him. As someone that has a coaching background, I believe he duly deserves the credit for the system change, and change in fortunes. I also believe he deserves the critiscm for not changing the system sooner, or at least changing personnel to suit the system he wanted to use.

Based on the start of our season, then a top 4 finish now is the best we can hope for, and as I've mentioned previously, I like BR, I think he's a fantastic coach 95% of the time. And he's still a young manager, learning. So unless there's a truly top class manager/coach available to us, getting rid of him makes little sense to me.

Lastly, it's not always that easy to be logical and talk 'football sense' about matters such as LFC were people are passionate and let their emotions overwhelm. It's far too easy to get carried away.

01 Apr 2015 16:13:02
Should FSG have bankrolled the purchase of a new striker? Should we expect FSG to show a statement of intent and invest heavily in new players? Did/do they trust the present transfer committee?

1. FSG made available almost £120m last summer.
How much more should Rodgers have been given?

2. Rodgers could have used the money more wisely instead of spending it square pegs. Rodgers knew Suarez was leaving but he decided that Balotelli and Lambert would somehow replace the Suarez goals.

3. As stated above in point 1, FSG spent almost £120m of LFC's money on players Rodgers agreed too. If some believes that £120m does not show that FSG had intent to invest heavily then there are some very delusional people out there.

4. As usual Rodgers is exonerated

01 Apr 2015 16:29:00
Hello again EDS and fellow REDS

Sorry if I sounded arrogant, didn't mean to, sorry again. My point was that this is the defining season (end of it, anyway) for BR and a lot of us. Our transfers have been bad but players are beginning to come good.
So what is your solution? Sack BR and get whom? We are not the only team who's spent over £100M, are we? Spurs did and they are no better than us. BR deserves some criticism, I totally agree but what are the alternatives, Rafa maybe?
Again, sorry about the arrogance sounding in my last post, head has been taken out of the rectum and apologies has been offered.
Here's hoping for the remainder of the season. YNWA

{Ed001's Note - no worries mate, I understand what you were saying, even if I disagree with some of it. I think FSG made the statement of intent in the summer.}

01 Apr 2015 16:46:02
IranRed, no way. Top 3 should be minimum, and if he can't achieve that with the money spent, then he needs to go. Fans shouldn't be giving accolades for failure. "Should FSG have bankrolled the purchase of a new striker", well FSG provided major funds to bring in players. He's esstentially still working out the best system to employ those that have been brought in (these are the players he wanted), and seems to play them out of posistion week after week. He had options for a striker, but as the Eds mentioned previously, he declined them, and made last minute pokies because he panicked. He had plenty of time (and funds) to bring in a suitable striker, but he didn't did he! Why did he revert to the old system for part 1 of this season and wait till Christmas to change things!!. It was very apparent for all to see within the first few games that the system he implemented wasn't working yet continued with it. What does that tell you about BR! Additionally, the Eds have mentioned many times about the promises he made to the Owner, promises he's failed to keep.

01 Apr 2015 18:35:00
Hey IranRed in London! I may have been a bit too sarcastic in my reply, but I simply do not want BR making any major decisions after this season! IMO he has taken us back years! I don't see us having the amount of cash he had this summer for I don't know how long! The eds believe he will go next season and so do I, however, I wouldn't mind him working under a DOF. He knows the players and it would make the change in management a little less tricky let's say

01 Apr 2015 18:38:27
Absolutely spot on mate.I fear Ed002 is right in saying it was a job to soon. If and I think he has just scraped it he is given another opportunity then he will be well under the spotlight. One more bad start and he has to go.

01 Apr 2015 23:53:54
Rewarding failure is the reason why England will never win a thing and if LFC keep doing that, we will never win the PL in my lifetime.

01 Apr 2015 11:53:11
hey eds what is the likelyhood of BR leaving in the summer and have you got any update on the review that was happing at LFC.

cheers

{Ed002's Note - Done to death.}