18 Jan 2017 13:03:49
Hi Ed002.just a quick question re the whole Matip affair. With the cited problem being that Matip did not "officially" write to Fecafoot to inform them of the retirement whilst he was at Schalke (it seems Schalke did not give him appropriate advice in 2015). do you think that FIFA will move to an investigation on Friday? My personal view is that if they follow the letter of their own law then we'll lose him for the entire AFCON. Such a pity if it happens as it's such a silly mistake and was easily avoidable.

{Ed002's Note - The rules are clear as to where the responsibility resides for all such matters and the expectation remains that FIFA will try to draw a line under the matter on Friday. It is not a silly mistake and the person responsible at Liverpool should have known better.}


1.) 18 Jan 2017
18 Jan 2017 14:40:04
Thanks for the reply Ed002. I understand what you're saying but the complaint actually extends to the original point of time when Matip was a Schalke player and not a Liverpool player. It looks like LFC will claim that they reasonably "assumed" Matip had been given the correct guidance by Schalke's employees when he originally retired from international football and was a Schalke player. I'm just saying what I've read to be honest from various press reports. But thanks again for always being on hand and enlightening.

{Ed002's Note - You may wish to go and read the rules about club responsibilities in terms of player eligibility. Any arument of stupidity on behalf of Liverpool will simply be referred back to the rulebooks (FA, UEFA and FIFA all make responsibilities crystal clear).}


2.) 18 Jan 2017
18 Jan 2017 16:33:20
It's lack of due diligence on the clubs behalf.
Matip said pre season that he would probably be going to the African cup of nations.

This should have set alarm bells ringing at Anfield as an officially retired international player wouldn't have even mentioned going.

When players sign for a new club, lawyers, agents, doctors, managers, accountants, prem league. Etc. All get involved lookingafter the player and the clubs interests
How this was missed by so many people is amazing given Matips own statement on the ACN.

{Ed002's Note - One person is responsible at all clubs - and one person only.}


3.) 18 Jan 2017
18 Jan 2017 17:49:35
every season from when I first starting supporting Liverpool, and that is from birth, we have always messed something up, we always have on our books, someone who is not tuned in, this has held us back big time, I hope Klopp shows whoever messed up this time, the back door, if we ever want to win the premiership, we can't have wasters on our staff/ books .


4.) 18 Jan 2017
18 Jan 2017 17:52:48
ED02 taking nothing away from the fact someone at the club responsible hasn't clearly done what they are paid to do. If Cameroon didn't even select him for the AFCN in their final 23 squad. Why do they dig their heels in so to speak?

Thanks in advance for the response.

{Ed002's Note - I don't know what you mean by "dig in their heels". And it is nothing to do with their "final 23". They had in December made it clear that they would like to have selected him - and that alon should have been ringing alarm bells at Liverpool even if they had already screwed up. There continues to be an obsession with trying to blame someone else.}


5.) 18 Jan 2017
18 Jan 2017 17:49:35
every season from when I first starting supporting Liverpool, and that is from birth, we have always messed something up, we always have on our books, someone who is not tuned in, this has held us back big time, I hope Klopp shows whoever messed up this time, the back door, if we ever want to win the premiership, we can't have wasters on our staff/ books .


6.) 18 Jan 2017
18 Jan 2017 17:52:48
ED02 taking nothing away from the fact someone at the club responsible hasn't clearly done what they are paid to do. If Cameroon didn't even select him for the AFCN in their final 23 squad. Why do they dig their heels in so to speak?

Thanks in advance for the response.

{Ed002's Note - I don't know what you mean by "dig in their heels". And it is nothing to do with their "final 23". They had in December made it clear that they would like to have selected him - and that alon should have been ringing alarm bells at Liverpool even if they had already screwed up. There continues to be an obsession with trying to blame someone else.}


7.) 18 Jan 2017
18 Jan 2017 18:27:04
Not at all ED02. I read a fifa advice experts (apparently) outlook on the whole situation.

He said that no written statement was done by the Secretary of L'Pool and so the Cameroon FA said they know nothing of Matip confirmation of retirement from International football.

That said he hasn't been selected for a while for his country. advised them he was retired whilst at Schalka and so he could not understand that although they selected Matip for the 33. He was injured at the time. Cameroon then went onto not select him for the 23. His outlook was an error on Liverpool's behalf. but cannot see why Fifa have not just stepped in and ended it.

{Ed002's Note - I have explained what has happened and I have explained where responsibility rests. He has never advised them that he was retired. Your last message was looking to blame his country for digging their heels in and now you want to know why FIFA do not "step in" to resolve matters such as this. The question has been asked of FIFA and they have said that they will discuss it on Friday to see if it needs to be looked at further - they have done what is appropriate. I am not going to explain again where responsibility falls as it is oerfectly clear.}


8.) 18 Jan 2017
18 Jan 2017 21:03:59
Thanks ED02 for the reply even though I have annoyed you slightly. Appreciate the effort you put into this site.

I think a P45 maybe on the horizon for the Liverpool secretary.