25 Jun 2017 18:11:29
Was chatting to an arsenal mate and he said ox has never played 8 games in a row for the gooners anyone know is this true.

1.) 25 Jun 2017
25 Jun 2017 18:28:10
Yeah, he's pretty injury prone and his form is patchy at best.

2.) 25 Jun 2017
25 Jun 2017 18:34:23
Irrelevant. How many 23 year olds at a Champions league regular side play every game? People are just digging to sensationalise an injury record which has been far better in the last year or two. Young players with pace sometimes struggle with muscular injuries because they are still growing. Gerrard did too as well as Kelly and Torres to name a few; it is just the luck of the draw. Not everyone's body grows the same and Arsenal in particular are notorious for having a shocking medical/ conditioning team.

3.) 25 Jun 2017
25 Jun 2017 19:38:28
It is not just the injuries that are the issue with the Ox, it is also his footballing ability, particularly the "brains" as you put in an earlier post to denigrate VVD MK.

4.) 25 Jun 2017
25 Jun 2017 19:44:05
He was injured nearly all of last season i think. He is a good player, i like him a lot but i obviously would want him fit and ready to go, not taking a constant seat in the treatment room. Tough call imo.

5.) 25 Jun 2017
25 Jun 2017 19:51:31
Arsenal would struggle to keep Captain America fit. I think things improved a bit last season but the club has struggled for years with injuries. A move could be good for him.

Ability-wise, I think he's decent as long as he's playing out wide. He's hopeless in the centre of the field.

6.) 25 Jun 2017
25 Jun 2017 20:25:03
I wasn't digging at all but I disagree with your point mk surely a player that has been at a club for 3 or 4 seasons can string together a run of more than 8 games in that time as you said they've been in the champions league and also the cups and league so would have had plenty of chances to do so so if it's not injuries then maybe he's not good enough I only say that because it looks like it will cost us 30 million for his services.

7.) 25 Jun 2017
25 Jun 2017 20:59:30
MK, no one is digging up anything on the Ox. His record is well documented for all of us to see and no amount of window-dressing will change that. Notice you did not answer the question the OP asked regarding the Ox reportedly being fit for 8 straight games alone last season and you said the question was irrelevant. How is it irrelevant? Cos you said so? Dragging other players' alleged injury records into this does nothing to support your point, my friend as we are veering off topic.

It's not just his poor injury record. It is that the kid has not improved a single bit for the past 4 seasons, just like his buddies Walcott and Gibbs who are relentlessly poor. If Klopp wants him then that is fine as he will be the one to own this transfer however much it costs. That is separate from the fact that the Ox's record at Arsenal is poor and I don't want him here and so do many. Two things can be right at the same time.

8.) 26 Jun 2017
25 Jun 2017 23:54:08
He missed 3 games through injury last season!

He doesn't lack football intelligence in my opinion. He lacks positional discipline but his offensive movement is very good. He also has good vision in terms of seeing a run ahead of him. There is a difference between lacking defensive awareness and lacking a footballing brain. I respect your right to that opinion though AG.

The injury stuff and lack of game time even when fit is just nonsense though. Hardly any players play 8 games in a row in modern football. He actually played in 10 league games in a row last season but that apparently doesn't count because he was rested In a Champions league Group game vs Basel? Come on guys, that is just a stupid stat. All clubs rest and rotate now for cup games and tactical changes. The guy made 45 appearances last season which is more than any player in our squad. But don't let that affect your made up arguments that he is still suffering from being injury prone.