Liverpool banter 6

23 Apr 2026 17:13:39
Not a huge surprise, as I have said all along and still being told Slot will be in charge next season.

Seems that quite a few people are going back on what they said and utilising the line "things move quickly in football".

Also great to see all the Sebastian Hoeneß experts have come out. Even better all the ones saying they didn't want Alonso anyway.

Sit back, relax, see some new signings come in and let Slot do his job.

23 Apr 2026 17:29:25
Slots gone deal with it.

23 Apr 2026 17:30:52
Slot doing his job at Liverpool is what we are all afraid of unless you have enjoyed the style of football we try to play now

23 Apr 2026 17:40:19
I can't see it, he hasn't been offered a new deal and I can't see the club backing him on transfers if it's his last year

23 Apr 2026 17:41:28
Has anyone stopped him from doing his job? What about the rumours that he's homesick?

He's been caught out this season w set-pieces, long balls, lack of creativity w supposed world-class talent, low-blocks, we can't do basic defending, no pattern to our play, no fight in the players bar Dom, players aren't fit. I want to know who has stopped Slot doing his job and sack them. What will he be caught out by next year as the PL continues to evolve? Will he get the "memo" that he didn't get this last season and adjust accordingly?

Don't care if we sign top top talent. I can get the same golf clubs Rory has but doesn't mean I can hit them anything like him. He's got great players and can't motivate any of them or play to their strengths.

Slot has picked his path and I've never seen a manager more stubborn, arrogant, disconnected, clueless and lacking in personality. Hopefully he's on his way here shortly.

23 Apr 2026 18:11:38
six signings came last summer, and Clot did a great job?

Leicester fans said the same as you ten years ago after a Fluke PL win 5000-1 winners that season, they have since dropped out of the Premier, the Championship and are now in League One.

Chelsea are the current World Club Champions and have just sacked a manager after losing five straight games, Clot lost 9 out of 12 early doors, the worst run of results by any LFC manager in 73 years, it has taken the month of April to achieve 50 plus PL points. Deliberately picked an LFC team to get beat at Anfield, we are LFC we don't surrender any game before a ball has been even kicked.

As for Alonso he got sacked at RM because his results were not good enough, no PL club would ever touch Clot with a Barge Pole why should we? Alonso has a great CV played Clot twice, lost twice with a 5-0 aggregate score.

It's always quicker and easier to reach the bottom than the top, Leicester and Chelsea fans will tell you that also?

As for "John-nies" number six? they can also touch the "Bottom" as well! but not with a Barge Pole hopefully!

{Ed001's Note - Xabi wasn't sacked because of results, he had one of their highest ever win ratios, he was sacked because the players moaned to Perez about him making them work hard.}

23 Apr 2026 18:35:55
Yeah, a manager was sacked for 70% win ratio. Take the day off, mate.

23 Apr 2026 19:00:59
Jonny No6 is a real number two. The ITKs here do an amazing job. I don't know who you think you are to come talking trash.

23 Apr 2026 19:03:12
The club was in talks with Alonso, they've staled, nobody's gone back on their word or trying to use excuses, get off your high horse

23 Apr 2026 19:13:13
Defeat at Anfield in the UCL set off a run of only two victories in eight games, turning a five point lead over Barcelona into a four point deficit in the La Liga.

Though Alonso had a circa 70% success rate, Arbeloa best thus far 65% and the La Liga deficit now stands at nine points.

I can comfortably say however Alonso/Iraola/Enrique would be my choice over Clot, his success win rate so far 25-26 is circa 48%.
P33 16 W, 7D, 10 PL losses. 18 competitive games lost thus far.

Ten Hag won Two Major Trophies FA Cup/Carabao while at man United for circa 2 and a half seasons. So if Clot rightfully goes, his fellow countryman beats him by 50% for Major Trophies won.

LFC under Clot concede the first goal every three games 37/104, a 21% win rate when behind in a game.

Not even Clot can challenge his failures above.

{Ed001's Note - and thanks Mr Bond!}

23 Apr 2026 19:32:31
Didn't know La Liga is a tougher league than the Premier to win OR?

Only two teams realistically win La Liga like the Scottish Premier League, every blue moon a different winner.

Arne Clot had a 65% win rate at Feyernoord, when he won it he also finished second the season after, so what he built he could not sustain, he has a history of this one will suggest!

23 Apr 2026 20:24:11
Err, Mr. bond, was that for me? because if it was, I have no idea what you are referring to because I never made such a comparison nor mentioned the PL or SPL in my comment.

You are probably hearing voices that sound like me in your own head which is strange because you have no idea what I sound like.

23 Apr 2026 21:50:46
Mr. Bond, Wouldn't it be 100%? If Slots 1 trophy is 100% then Ten Hags 2 titles are 200%, beating slot by 100%. To use 50% in that context you would say Slot won 50% less trophies, not Ten Hag won 50% more. Easy mistake to make when you're typing a post whilst trying to escape from some supervillains secret lair.

24 Apr 2026 06:25:32
007 comparing Ten Hag's trophy wins at Man United to Slot's at Liverpool and saying it's 50% better is strange.
You'd rather win the carabao cup and fa cup over the Premier League?
Use of maths doesn't work in your comparison.


I like most want to see a managerial change but this isn't one of the reasons for me.
I want to see us playing a different style with higher tempo like we did under klopp. Slot's style is too safe and far less effective.

23 Apr 2026 16:48:30
Not much to say really. My highlight of the Derby Match was the sight of Missie Pickword sitting on his backside banging his hands on the floor like a sullen little toddler. Oh a joy to my eyes. ?

23 Apr 2026 18:37:31
@Mea, did you see the part where Gator arms and Tarkowski looking whierdly at each other after the goal was scored like, "What da heck just happened"?

Priceless, mate.

23 Apr 2026 20:56:17
I think Pickford might have been looking for an explanation as to why Tarkowski was pulling on his shirt!

23 Apr 2026 16:32:29
Of the players who remain at the club who were core members of Klopp's peak years, Alisson is the only one who has not yet shown clear decline. Yes - his injury problems seem to have increased but his handling is still impeccable and he still makes saves where the striker is the clear favorite. Losing him before his contract ends, and for less than £20m, might hit harder than any of the others of Klopp's key men who have moved on/ are moving on.

I think pretty much regardless of who replaces Alisson, whether Mamardashvili or someone else coming in, we might be about to really understand what a truly outstanding goalkeeper he has been for us. I know that people often refer to Clemence as the best we've ever had. That was just before my time (I remember Clemence in his later years at Tottenham). In that pre-Premier League period, Southall is the keeper that always comes to mind as the stand out in my memory. In the Premier League, I think Schmeichel and Alisson are in a group of two as the best (never understood people putting Ederson and Alisson at the same level). Schmeichel and Alisson were/are both so good that they regularly made saves that they had no right to make and they indisputably won matches or held onto draws for the team. Alisson's contribution to what we've achieved since 2018 has been enormous. Not sure I'll ever see another Liverpool keeper as good.

23 Apr 2026 17:21:23
Petr Cech was a top keeper, before his injury.

{Ed025's Note - great keeper Rome..

23 Apr 2026 17:37:34
Galls me to say it but Schmeichel was the best keeper i have ever watched. Allisson runs him close though.

23 Apr 2026 17:43:25
Yeah, I would say prime Cech was up there in the same bracket as Schmeichel and Alisson, with Van Der Sar in the group immediately below them.

I would also argue that Pepe was in the '2nd tier' group too for a few years

23 Apr 2026 17:57:12
The real madrid keeper Courtois is a top top player he is up there with best.

23 Apr 2026 18:41:42
I would pick Ali ahead of them all only because of the extremely open system he played in under Klopp and was still magnificent for all those years.

Also, I think Ali would be even better than say Cech in that defensive system Cech played even tho, I rate Cech and Schmeichel very highly.

Not sure Cech or Schmeichel would survive in that open/high line system Ali played in in his prime. Just my opinion.

23 Apr 2026 19:15:50
Becker the greatest in my view. Along with Virgil, he turned a soft defence into a title-winning one. Apart from a good few months from Reina and Dudek, our goalkeepers had been awful since Clemence. Bruce was part of a successful team, but never top tier.

I reckon that Becker and Schmiechel the two key signings in the Premiership era.

23 Apr 2026 20:26:18
Indeed, Monstersouness. To me, Ali is way better than a lot of people think even tho, they rate him very highly already.

23 Apr 2026 20:59:55
I think Ali is the best, but I also think it's wrong to say he hasn't shown signs of decline. Think most of this season he's been injured or coming back from an injury, and he's looked pretty rusty any time he's played as the season has gone on.

Don't want him to leave, a fit Ali is still the best in the world, but he's not been top class this season.

24 Apr 2026 00:09:37
Iker Casillas, Oliver Kahn, Buffon.

Shay Given was a good goalkeeper for a number of years, not the best but he was solid and dependable.

23 Apr 2026 15:15:30
Not sure if it's been discussed before as I couldnt find anything with the search function, but with uncertainty regarding Alonso, and some saying Hoeness is of interest.
Can't say ive ever watched Stuttgart play, how would folks describe his style of play etc and how he likes to set up his team?

23 Apr 2026 16:23:53
Edo01 described him as the closest style to prime Klopp, so pretty mouth watering

23 Apr 2026 16:38:15
If that's true I would definitely not be opposed to bringing heavy metal football back to our club

23 Apr 2026 18:26:29
Hoeness style is apparently the same Klopp . Didn't we get told that about slot?? ?

23 Apr 2026 19:06:33
It'd be genuinely interesting for Ed001 to expand on that description because I suppose we all see different things in "prime Klopp".

I see intensity of the press, speed in transition, rapid wingers and a creative, intelligent number 9.

Can't say I see that from Stuttgart really but they play in a different league so it's hard to compare.

{Ed001's Note - the first two I was referring to, not so much the latter pair. I think of Klopp's main features, at prime level, were the press and attacking transitions. You can do that numerous ways, it doesn't need wingers or a creative, intelligent number 9.}

23 Apr 2026 20:20:34
Thanks Ed001 ?

{Ed001's Note - very welcome Ronald.}

23 Apr 2026 15:09:49
Ed001, according to the ITKs it's looking like Hoeness is the most likely candidate for the summer. I'll admit I don't know much about him other than he manages stuttgart.

Do you think he would be a good fit? Is his playing style an upgrade on slot etc?

{Ed001's Note - he is very similar to the style of play Klopp used before joining us, so should suit us down to the ground.}

23 Apr 2026 16:39:14
I must have typed out my question at the same time as this post so apologies ed for not double checking newer posts

23 Apr 2026 18:48:17
With huge clear out expected will the DOF buy players to suit Hoeness's game. If yes, does it mean that Hoeness will have say in transfers? How will Izak fit in?

23 Apr 2026 14:47:05
With all this stuff going on around about the manager.

I would be interested to see whether ed01 would be interested in doing a tactical review and comparison of the managers of interest we are looking into.

I could imagine it would be a great write up but I also am aware it would take a bit of research and time to cover it. But we ask anyway as can only say no.

But it would be an analysis and comparison of the following -

Alonso
Hoeness
Enrique
Iraola

I think it could be an interesting read to see how the 4 compare, playing style, setup and how they work.

I know a lot of us say we know a fair bit but as actual comparison or breakdown I think would be really interesting to see.

This is also open to members to input their own write ups as well. Be cool to see what everyone thinks and how we all see these managers.

{Ed001's Note - Zeddicus already asked for this, so I am already working on an article on it.}

23 Apr 2026 15:40:19
Amazing! Thank you Ed

23 Apr 2026 16:44:06
Great minds think alike SI09!

23 Apr 2026 16:44:32
Although I asked Ed001 to include Slot in the list too, just to get his blood boiling!

23 Apr 2026 17:05:37
Ed1. great work my man

23 Apr 2026 18:42:59
I like that, Zed. That will definitely fire Ed01 up.

23 Apr 2026 21:15:58
I'm looking forward to this one. Good man ED01. It'll make interesting reading.

23 Apr 2026 22:20:32
Ed001, mate, if I could a further nuance, could you compare how each manager suits our key players? We're not Chelsea so we're not going to replace everyone, key players like Virg, Dom, Wirtz etc so it would be interesting to consider how each style works with our core.

Thanks you!

{Ed001's Note - yes mate, that's good as the hardest part comparing managers is what to compare. You have easy options for players but managers is difficult.}

23 Apr 2026 13:02:49
It all seems to be going t**ts up at the moment. Massive uncertainty in the dugout and boardroom. Almost all senior players leaving, even Alisson is now said to prefer a move to Juventus this season. Van Dijk openly stating that the higher-ups need to get things in control.



By all accounts this is going to be a truly massive summer, and we really need to get it right. How quickly things have disintegrated since Klopp left is truly baffling.

23 Apr 2026 14:29:51
What is surprising is that when our old 'Boot Room' and success/continuity ran out, we spent decades trying to get back to the top and stay there.
We finally managed that under Klopp, and built an identity, leadership group and genuine top-level squad.
From there, you would think it would only require tweaking here and there with the odd player or two each year to keep things fresh.
Similar to what Ferguson did at Utd.

Re-building title-winning teams and squads over and over.
The supposed idea of Slot was that he played a similar way and had a similar philosophy to Klopp.
However, it now seems like it is targeted dismantling of everything Klopp built - playing style, fitness, leadership group.
Why the wholesale change when only tweaks were needed?
You have an overall structure that works - why break it up?

23 Apr 2026 15:13:44
" How quickly things have disintegrated since Klopp left is truly baffling."

Just to try and give a more positive perspective as I feel like the page and general fan base is feeling more negative.

Since klopp has left we have also:
- won a Premier League
- renewed our captains contract and are working to secure the future of our best player this season, Ibou Konate (joke: Szobozlai)
- lowered the average age of the squad
- signed two very promising young centre halves
- reached the knockout round of the champions league twice finishing in the auto places

Not telling you that you are wrong. Just giving a different perspective

23 Apr 2026 15:45:37
We also now seem to lack that extra level of fitness that is required these days and have lost all intensity in our play because of it.
Then there are the continual niggly injuries that could be out down to our players not being trained as hard.
We play absolutely dire football game after game.


We struggle to break teams down and seem to let any team carve us open at will and by multiple methods.
You get the impression that the players have gone from wanting to run through walls for the manager to running through walls to get away from him.

23 Apr 2026 16:19:31
Keith pal, you don't get to decide what people post, positive/negative is irrelevant. When rubbish hits the fan there's no stopping it flying. If you want to distract yourself from the truth of concerning issues at hand with nonsense you go right ahead mate, but don't expect anyone with half a brain to follow suit.

23 Apr 2026 16:46:48
Chewy, you get a bolloxing from your missus or something?!

What did Navy Keith say that deserved such aggression?

He is giving a different view point. He's allowed, whether you or I agree with him or not.

And he gave it very politely!

23 Apr 2026 17:10:51
Keith was simply offering a more positive point of view Chew, wasnt trying to decide what people post.God knows a bit more positivity is needed around here.

23 Apr 2026 17:13:56
What I meant was in the sense of uncertainty and the disconnect between the fans and the club @NavyKeith. I think we are at our lowest point since Roy's days right now in terms of mood, while we are significantly better placed in terms of actual standing right now.

23 Apr 2026 17:35:15
I agree with you there koparmy, it is a weird situation. We are defending champions, should qualify for the UCL next season, have recruited some really good players in the summer, albeit they are not clicking just yet, and yet I do feel as low as the Roy months!

For all the really good reasons already posted, Slot must go, and it will be interesting to see who comes in.

I guess the only time in my lifetime that we would have had multiple different managers in 2 years would have been the Benitez/Roy/KK /Rodgers merry go round from 2010-2012, but that came after some years of no trophies, rather than now.

We should remember to stay positive, as difficult as it is right now, and hope we can start afresh in 2026-7

23 Apr 2026 18:04:22
Thekoparmy, the disintergration was not when Klopp left it was when Edwards came back it started when Klopp seemed to want to go as soon as Edwards was coming back.
YNWA

23 Apr 2026 18:48:41
Chewy, I get where you are coming from but really, our man @Navy didn't deserve that type of tongue-lashing. He made positive points because that is how he feels and is clearly a glass half-full guy. He chose to stay positive and that is within his right. When did that ever warrant such a response?

That doesn't mean you should go all ham on the guy just because he is doing what you wouldn't do. We can all agree/disagree on stuff but let's not forget that people are allowed to be positive and negative and share their views on that, regardless of what others will think of them.

23 Apr 2026 20:56:38
@thekoparmy

I certainly agree on the disconnect between fans and team/manager. It's not in a good place. Even when we weren't flying under klopp, we always had that.

Honestly I don't necessarily disagree with any of what you're saying. I just think there is another way we can look at things also.

@chewy - I don't know who pis*ed on your chips lad! Cheer up, it's Friday tomorrow.

23 Apr 2026 10:29:21
Ed001, you've been around a while, has there ever been such dislike for a current Liverpool manager whilst you've been running the site.

Mr Slot certainly seems to be extremely unpopular here at the moment. I only started reading this site just after Klopp joined so it would be interesting to know who else received the same amount of grief!

{Ed001's Note - no, Rodgers still retains a fair bit of support amongst the fanbase now and Hodgson, while everyone wanted him out, was mostly well-liked. Slot just hasn't managed to endear himself to the fans, even when winning it was difficult to take to him. Souness was another who was terrible but he was Souness and that made him a hero from his playing time, so he was well-protected from dislike.}

23 Apr 2026 13:28:05
Ed001 has been around that long he actually helped launch The Ark ?

{Ed001's Note - and Bazza was one of those who marched on 2 by 2.}

23 Apr 2026 14:01:41
Im so long in the tooth, I had to go into the ark, looking up at the sky

23 Apr 2026 14:18:05
Dont think I've ever disliked a manager we've had, its the football what they play dictates anything negative, but after a while you just know the writing is on the wall with them.you don't listen to the press conferences etc, you know that its going to to be the same as usual, .

But I didn't want Houllier to be our manager, I liked Roy Evans style of football n think he got shafted by the board big time, I was fortunate to remember Paisley, n then the King, but must admit I loved Rafa aswel

23 Apr 2026 15:12:23
Agreed on Rafa Strom, I think he just came up a little short but I'll always remember THAT game and love him for it. He also seemed to "get" the club in a similar way to Jürgen. Guessing he may even still live in the area??

23 Apr 2026 15:17:39
Honestly, I don't think I dislike Slot. I just don't like his football and man management.

My dislike is for the suits who appear to be unaccountable as the club culture that has been built over the last decade is set fire to.

23 Apr 2026 16:05:12
I never disliked Rodgers, yes he came out with some absolute nonsense, but he was and still is an excellent COACH, he's not a great manager but his football at times was excellent.

Rodgers never had us playing this absolute bizarre way of football with little training and bugger all fitness levels.

Say what you want about Rodgers, but he always for the most part respected who he was representing, Slot has done nothing but goad the fans this year with his utter nonsensical press conferences and obsession with PSG.

23 Apr 2026 16:40:47
Johnnyr.i think Rafa has still got a house in Caldy, yea he was unlucky Rafa, got us a champs league win n runner up, he had to fight tooth n nail with H&G to get anything with better backing he could have won that lot, but he 100% got the team n the City, remember he was in a pub abroad bfr a game watching a game with the fans, top manager n man

23 Apr 2026 18:53:22
Slot invites utter dislike and negative energy all on his own due to how he talks, belittles people and makes excuse after excuse for all the issues he has caused this team this season. The guy has no remorse at all and when you put all these things together, the dislike comes on it's own.

23 Apr 2026 09:07:03
Just had a look at Hoeness and all his games he uses either a 4231 or 3421. We were linked with their young German CB Jeltsch, who is highly rated, along with Stiller. Done really well at Stuttgart. An interesting candidate.

23 Apr 2026 10:52:29
Keegan - I've been pondering this and also scratching my head at how Hoeness CV shows any evidence that he is ready to take over LFC.

I wouldn't be against it but my overriding feeling is we need experience

23 Apr 2026 12:28:53
Didnt know much about Hoeness tbh apart from what is said on here.A look into him shows he struggled at Hoffenheim.Took a club that that finished 6th the previous season to finishes of 11th and 9th in his 2 seasons there.However his 1st season at Stuttgart was superb with a 2nd placed finish.Tailed off horribly the following season to finish 9th.Has them in 4th position this season so has bounced back well.Fair play to Stuttgart seeing enough in that 1st season to show a bit of faith after a more difficult season the following year just like City did with Pep last year when he struggled.Shows that managers can sometimes bounce back.

23 Apr 2026 12:42:32
Mid table bundesliga clubs seem to be like that. A good season and qualification for Europe tends to lead to a struggle the following season. Maybe small squads struggle with the increased number of games. Hoffenheim, eintracht, leverkusen, stuttgart, werder bremen, wolfsburg etc lots of examples

23 Apr 2026 12:53:22
Are you implying that we should keep faith in Slot for next season with the hope that he can bounce back Florian? Because you could have just said so.

23 Apr 2026 12:54:00
Florian you cheeky devil you.

We see what you're doing at the end there.

23 Apr 2026 13:49:00
I'm convinced Flo has to be Richard Hughes and the Saudis have pulled the plug on his deal ;)

23 Apr 2026 14:06:00
Well, does anyone think if Hoeness had a 2nd followed by 9th that people here would be clamouring for him to sign a 10 year extension

As long as he plays attractive football, has no other issues to deal with and makes people feel good perhaps

23 Apr 2026 14:18:24
Well 1st and a possible 3rd aren't cutting it Faith so one can only guess?

23 Apr 2026 15:26:27
Not having a dig at you fm. I quite admire your optimism, also you keep the site quite entertaining. But during last 12 months can you honestly say that you have found watching us play entertaining? Where have the fitness issues come from? If slot stays, do you think assistant, coaches need to be changed? Or are you fully confident (not supportive but confident) this set up can compete for cl and prem? I am presuming you don't have faith in Edwards and Hughes though.

23 Apr 2026 17:29:46
Lessons would have to have been learned West.Look for all my back and forward with people i've said for a while now i expect him to be gone.But if he's still here the weaknesses in the squad have to be addressed.Attitudes that were lacking this season either have to be removed or back on point.Things that people could have a go at this season like fitness(i think its over egged on here)has to be at 100 from the get go.Them things are done and we can be back challenging.The frontline needs some major work and Macca(if this season is his new norm)has be be replaced in MF.

24 Apr 2026 03:10:43
I think what Florian (and I) are saying is that there is more to the picture than throwing all our toys out the cot and at Slot's direction