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Favourite player: Kenny Dalglish

Best team moment: First European Cup win

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15 Sep 2020 17:15:47
Ed002 is the LFC link with Omar Colley real or is media talk? Also, is Colley good enough for the Premiership? Thanks in advance?


{Ed002's Note - Omar Colley (CB) Was a Plan B to MH for Southampton. Roma were keen but opted for Gianluca Mancini who was seen as a better fix for perhaps a little less money. Newcastle and West Ham have shown an interest in talking with his agent. None of these options seem to be an improvement over Sampdoria though. He has been of some interest to Celtic. Would be off to the AFCON which also makes many sides think twice.}

1.) 15 Sep 2020 20:31:16
Thanks for replying Ed002 and I apologise to you or anyone else who criticised me for going overboard about the financial issues facing LFC. I make no excuses but having waited 30 years to see my beloved Liverpool win the league again, this C.V. was the worst thing to happen to Liverpool as I fully expected LFC to dominate English football for at least 3 or 4 years. Could still happen but the C.V. is a real kick in the teeth for Liverpool's ambitions.

2.) 15 Sep 2020 21:23:22
Hi vonbp, I said you came across as a spoiled child in your other post, sick of reading the why can't we spend loads of money posts. Not my finest moment either but anyway most of us do want the same.

Onwards and upwards 👍.

3.) 15 Sep 2020 21:57:43
Fair play vonbp001. Takes a bigger man to admit they were wrong than it does to continue the argument. We all go overboard sometimes. I'm actually banned from Atlantic Cruises because they got sick of deploying the life boats every 20 minutes.

4.) 15 Sep 2020 22:15:08
Cheers Sean. I agree we all want the same thing: Liverpool becoming dominant as in the 70s and 80s. If not for C.V. I'm certain we would have but I think it'll be much harder now with rivals signing quality players which is now almost impossible for Liverpool but time will tell.

5.) 15 Sep 2020 22:59:02
No worries man, all good.

I'm not sure dominating the league for 3-4 years was ever a guarantee even with further investment. Only one team has successfully defended the PL title in a decade - Man City.

That being said, I'm still confident we can do it. Another experienced CB and Thiago would help, but even without them we're in the best shape to win it imo.

Have City's signings really made them that much better? Or brought them to the level they were at in 18/ 19? I don't think so, personally. And I think Rodri may have some difficulty replacing Fernadinho (who is 35) in the long term. He's not as good defensively and whilst he gets on the ball more, he goes sideways a lot more than Fernandinho. Good player obviously, but not the same, and we saw last year how they missed Fernandinho's aggression in midfield.
I might rethink my views on City if they land a high quality CB.

Man U have signed one player. And could possibly replace de Gea with Henderson. Don't think they've done enough to challenge.

Chelsea have invested heavily, which they were always going to do with money they had from Morata and Hazard. As well as from a lot of excess players sold for £5m and £10m here and there (eg. Palasic, Aina, Kalas) over the last couple of years. And they've invested well, Havertz and Werner are undoubtedly very good players. But are they as good as Salah and Mane? They're certainly not established and proven in this league in the same way.
And they're not as good at the back. Even if Sarr is the next Laporte (he might be, I've never seen him play), they don't have the same quality in defence as us, and our keeper is a lot better than theirs.
Very dangerous team to play against, undoubtedly, could beat us at the weekend. But I don't think they'll sustain a title challenge over the whole season. They might next season though.

6.) 16 Sep 2020 05:18:57
vonbp001, my thoughts are exactly the same as yours. We won the league by a mile and I expected us to strengthen with Timo Werner, Diego Carlos and Thiago Alcantara. With some sales, these additions will sure see us dominate the league for some years to come.

With Chelsea and City (and others) strengthening, they have just caught up with us in just one window - which will normally take them 3-4 windows to do so. We just lost this impetus in just one window!

Also, with Anfield empty, our 12th man can no longer help us. It is as if everything is against us now. If this C.V. last another 12 months, we may just lose Klopp and undo everything we have worked so hard for.

7.) 16 Sep 2020 08:26:46
Why would we lose Klopp?

8.) 16 Sep 2020 10:29:55
Ed02 keeps saying about home grown quotas and people on here seem to pay little attention when they list the signing they want. In recent years we have moved on the likes of Ibe, Solanke, Ings, Kent now Clyne and Lallana. It looks Like Wilson will be going and quite possibly Brewster also.
Hendo is now 30 and has injury problems over the years, Milner will be 35 in 4 months time so Replacements will have to be found over next couple of seasons.
And on a side note Gini is 30 in November and if we do sign him Thiago 30 in 7 months, not only are we cramming the midfield but all turning the wrong side of 30.
Elliot, Jones and Williams are a big boost, Trent and Joe are both young. But we need to look carefully at the homegrown figures now and plan, especially as there's a chance the number required could go up.
Ed02 has also pointed out the issue of AFCON, and the fact that although cancelled this season the African and south American nations have programmed in a lot of friendlies. This looks like after xmas were looking at problems with, Keita, Mane, Salah, Firmino, Fabino and if we do get them Thiago and Diego Carlos. Sarr is another talked about. Add to that Japan home games are a travelling nightmare for minamino, and C.V. could result in players retuning having to isolate away from the squad for ten days.
So although were all agreed I think these players would improve the squad from a pure football perspective, are they actually right for the club?
There’s a reason why Ben White, Grealish, Sancho, Brooks are so highly in demand and expensive.

9.) 17 Sep 2020 05:38:29
Thats far too one sided and negative you're focused on as issues and even as I know it's important to consider we need to meet squad quotas you list 5 or 6 players who were never all registered at any point. Ibe hasn't been in our squad in years and Kent never being registered while solanke was never around at same time when those were, clyne out on loan or not even included in squad at one stage. Gomez and now Trent this season qualify for spots since those few names above have left. AOC, Milner, Henderson guaranteed to be included this season. Brewster Jones Williams Elliot are not required to be included until 21st birthday. Basically we can only have 17 maximum registered of non HG which we currently have but the likes of karius, shaqiri or grujic will inevitably free up places. Last season we only listed 15 of 17 possible with lovren now replaced by kostas. We don't have to include 8 HG players over 21 as a requirement so not crucial to add faces to fill the 25 man squad simply as long as we manage not exceeding 17 non HG first team players. If thiago comes in then obviously either grujic or gini will be replaced. If a forward is signed then origi or shaqiri free a space. Karius will almost certainly not be registered and also make a space. Many seem to think that Brewster is important to us for HG reasons but that's not how it works. Under 21s don't need to be included and with us having 3 or 4 of those likely to play for us next year we don't need to fill the squad with 25 players over 21. Many are thinking we need 8 HG players as a minimum which we don't. For any potential 1 or 2 possible incomings it's obvious that 3 or 4 will be moved on anyway. Next year Hoever will qualify as HG and VDB the year after while kelliher and grabara also. Elliot Jones Williams and Brewster if he stays will all be here long enough by the Milner, OX and hendo aren't promised to be involved. Trent and Gomez are long term certainties so we don't need to plan ahead with any sort of changes being forced. Grujic and karius weren't even in our squad last year so it's silly to stress over them taking spaces this season. A 3rd choice keeper will not be listed and grujic will only be kept if we don't sign a replacement player and may even lose 2 players in midfield if 1 signs. Everyone wanted Lewis to sign for the HG reason and ignored footballing reasons. Lovren out kostas in, no change. Clyne lallana sturridge etc are of no relevance because those 3 players have been replaced by youngsters anyway so we're not short of options to feel we need to fill the squad with bodies we won't need on the pitch.

10.) 17 Sep 2020 06:12:14
Also to consider that few international friendlies mid season should be considered as important to pick the players we plan to sign is ridiculous. So it would be a better option to avoid any players who will need to spend 2 or 3 hours extra on a flight to play international games only a few times over the season. Minamino will not suddenly be absent for us just because he may have to go to asia. Just because AFCON may happen in 18months and 3 or 4 weeks out for a player would be crazy to prevent us using him for the 50 or 60 league games we play until then. Allison fabinho hendo matip and Gomez all spent longer periods out last season than AFCON lasts and we did just fine. Would it be better to target players not of the standard to play for their countries instead of having the top talent from around the world? And every team good enough to rival us will have players doing the same anyway. European nations more often play extra games than other continents do so why is their workload an issue.

You say that improving the squad from a football point of view might not be the best for the club? That's the worst approach to even consider as the improvement of the football results is the number one importance and that leads to every other area seeing benefits. Your priorities have seen clubs like arsenal spurs and United take steps back in recent years by focusing on the less important issues instead of what can make the team as strong as possible on the field.



20 Aug 2020 14:10:06
I agree with Ed002 about City not panic buying but Torres is nowhere as good as Sane'. As for LFC I think they're waiting to sell the likes of Gruijic and Wilson before they buy anyone else. I wish to ask Ed 002 if there's genuine interest from other clubs in Gini. Sgaqiri and Origi?


{Ed002's Note - (a) Not that I am aware. (b) Wants more game time but wishes to stay, and if he leaves it opens the door for HG player to ease an issue the club has - Seville interest has gone - Galatasaray want a loan with an option to buy. Interest of Lazio is possible as they have been unable to agree a price for their first choice player. (c) If he were made available at a reasonable price then there would be interest - if Brewster is to stay he may well make way.}

1.) 21 Aug 2020 04:22:34
Grujic Wilson shaqiri and origi all moving away would likely bring us in 70mil or more for players who only played rarely and when we didn't have minamino, Brewster, Jones or a fit keita available. Each of those players don't even need direct replacement but the money could be used to strenghten the wing areas if possible. Shaqiri and Origi would free up 2 non HG slots from last year while grujic also keeping a space open. Gini could be replaced by thiago and maybe target a HG defensive addition and a speedy wide attacker. We could drastically improve our squad without even spending what we could bring in from sales. Clyne, lovren, lallana off the books while kostas, any potential CB and Jones instead of lallana surely all earning much less. Origi and shaqiri wages I'd imagine are far higher than minamino and Brewster so any big earning signing would not even expand our salary cost from previous seasons. Sturridge and Moreno last season also could afford us to offer players deserving better deals. We have our best talent all tied in to long good contracts so financially we can't be under pressure to force decisions we don't want to take with the squad. I'm just hoping that those players have clubs interested enough to offer fair money and we can move them out. Shaqiri, Lovren, Wilson sales alone would match kostas and thiago fees. Grujic, karius, another 2 who could leave for the price of thiago. Origi or gini could possibly bring us more each than thiago price. While kostas, Curtis Jones, neco Williams, minamino and Brewster all stepping in to main squad at combined cost of under 20 mil which is less than most of the price each one of our squad players not needed could bring. We're doing very good work in shaping the squad when buying and selling the right players at the right times. We will be very well much improved financially and also squad balanced and strenght by the time the window shuts I'm sure of that.

2.) 21 Aug 2020 07:56:19
The way the trends are panning out, SA, Asia and Africa will be in the middle of their second wave in Jan/ Feb. I wouldn't bank on those games being played. Maybe the UK clubs who have players involved could work out a plan to offer/ allow the games to happen over here. Less travel, dispruption, risk of catching C.V. and maybe even a few quid from UK based supporters if socially distant crowds are a thing by then?

It's not a completely insane idea is it Ed?

{Ed001's Note - how can you see far enough ahead to say that? The games will be in 2022 won't they?}

3.) 21 Aug 2020 08:06:31
Sorry Ed I meant the scheduled frendlies for Jan/ Feb that involve the Afcon players.

A straight cancel would be best but if they are determined i’m sure we could accommodate in some way to help our (PL teams) players.

{Ed001's Note - I thought they had been postponed until 2022.}

4.) 21 Aug 2020 08:15:27
I’ll bow to your greater knowledge mate. Something in the back of my mind said friendlies early next year. I assumed they were pre the WC Qualifier in March (Colombia v Brazil) but I guess it may all be cancelled?

{Ed001's Note - I don't know, I have lost track to be honest. I am not sure anyone knows for sure and it will all be subject to change anyway.}

5.) 21 Aug 2020 08:27:40
That's for sure. If this has taught us anything, it's that the whole planet is subject to change at any time and football is merely a luxury unfortunately.

6.) 21 Aug 2020 10:53:50
Ed002 mentioned there will be friendlies in Jan2022 involving the African countries so you likely read that here BeckersGloves.

@Har_red92, good post, I think reasonable and I agree with most of what you have laid out. Ed002 has said we aren't focusing on a winger and I'm not looking to reopen that discussion but I do agree we could do with an upgrade here. On centre back, Ben White sounded like he would cost an enormous amount but Leeds bids were £18m and £22m or thereabouts. If Brighton would accept somewhere around £30m then maybe he would be considered but otherwise Nat Phillips makes more since than signing a foreign 4th choice backup for £10m, in my opinion anyway.

{Ed002's Note - It all all non European countries who have games then.}

7.) 21 Aug 2020 12:30:35
Cool, cheers Ed002.



16 Aug 2020 14:10:39
Ed002. I remember LFC signing an experienced player like Gary McCallister and he had quite an impact. I think an experienced and talented footballer like Thiago can add that composure and guile needed for LFC as reigning champions. Don't see it as a bad signing at all and could be the signing that strengthens an already strong midfield.


{Ed002's Note - It is not a bad signing at all, the concern there is, including some folks at Liverpool, relates to age, resale, value, cosT and his injury history. The issue about whether or not he fits in to the system Liverpool play has been raised.}

1.) 16 Aug 2020 15:33:27
Thiago could allow Gini to play further forward and put pressure on the attacking MF's, which could be like getting another new player. Naby and Ox need to serve up much better seasons this coming one and maybe Thiago will be the catalyst that propels them all to new heights.

{Ed0666's Note - I just can’t see all those midfielders staying if Thiago arrives. Somethings got to give.

2.) 16 Aug 2020 16:02:44
That would mean Gini has stated he wants one last big move and therefore has to be sold now, right? Can't see who else could be leaving .

3.) 16 Aug 2020 16:43:10
Since it is in the context of Thiago coming in, I'd say Wijnaldum, Shaqiri, Keita, and Ox are all moveable. Ox much less so, simply because he's home grown and that's a persistant issue.

But I would first place more importance on moving on the likes of Wilson, Ojo, Grujik and Woodburn before touching any of the starters. I see no benefit in keeping players for loan purposes over 2-3 years or more. You also have to start and clear the pathways for the next generation coming in; many of whom have signed new contracts and aspire to get into the first team.

4.) 16 Aug 2020 17:50:08
If a big offer came in for the ox it could be worth it .

5.) 16 Aug 2020 18:12:53
If I was a betting man I'd say Gini is going.

{Ed002's Note - Money needs to be raised to buy the likes of Thiago.}

6.) 16 Aug 2020 19:00:46
I think it would be a great buy. There are times when the system needs to change in the middle, so to have the option to have 2 of fab, hendo and Thiago as the deeper playmakers, I’m all for it. I think if Gini doesn’t sign a new contract, he will go the same way as emre and have limited game time. Also people going on about his age, let’s not forget he’s a year younger than hendo and 15 years younger than Millie.

If it’s in the region of £25m, great buy.

7.) 16 Aug 2020 21:26:23
15 years younger than Milner? You must be getting Priti Patel to do your maths for you, Swifbert.

8.) 16 Aug 2020 21:19:38
Would the money from the sale of Gini not go towards the purchase of Thiago Ed002?

{Ed002's Note - I expect money from all sales less about 25% to go in to the transfer pot.}

9.) 16 Aug 2020 22:18:42
Ox's injuries aside I think he has been brilliant for us and added a good option if he regains full fitness he could push for a start kieta I really wish he would be the player we all know he can be. if he comes good and matures a bit he can be as good as a new player
Shaq unfortunately doesn't look like he will get much game time seems a nice guy just doesn't seem to fit
If gini goes i wish him the best.

10.) 16 Aug 2020 22:24:22
I'd be gutted if Gini left now; he is so important for our possession game. Surely a younger CAM would make more sense?

11.) 16 Aug 2020 22:28:19
Thiago couldn’t lace Gary macs boots.

{Ed0666's Note - I’m sure Thiago is intelligent enough to tie shoelaces Pete.

12.) 17 Aug 2020 09:40:33
Thiago couldn’t lace Gary Macs boots? Come on, I loved Gary Mac but Thiago is a far superior footballer.

13.) 17 Aug 2020 10:05:59
Comparing thiago and Gary Mac is silly, completely different IMO. couple of sales of fringe players should be enough to secure funds for Thiago. Would be a great addition and would improve our midfield no end. I hope it gets done. His passing ability is second to none.

14.) 17 Aug 2020 11:16:12
If there was ever a case of right player, at the right time at the right club i can't think of one.

15.) 17 Aug 2020 14:13:16
Maybe look to sign Velcro and stop worrying about shoelaces.

16.) 17 Aug 2020 15:10:16
Let's say we do buy Thiago, our first team midfield would consist of


8 players fighting for 3 positions, as ed0666 pointed out, I think at least 1 person has to leave for us to sign Thiago. I do think we need someone with a bit more creativity in the middle of the park but would I swap any of our current midfield for Thiago? I would say no, wait another year and buy someone younger. Sell the likes of Milner/ Gini next summer and refresh things then.

Is it possible Klopp wants Ox to play further forward on more often when Salah/ Mane aren't playing? I could understand the need for someone like Thiago then, but even then we're well stacked in midfield. If we have £30 million to spend I'd rather see us buy a versatile forward to challenge the front 3. Or a centre back to challenge Gomez and cover for big Virg. Thiago would be a marquee signing we haven't had for a while but one I really don't think we need at the moment.

17.) 17 Aug 2020 15:53:00
Thiago will NOT be joining Liverpool. The club has been clear speaking to the Echo that we are not in for him. I do not recall any other recent case where the club has denied any interest but then turn around and sign the player. I believe that all the news is coming from BM who is trying to push other clubs such as the two Manchester teams to act.

18.) 17 Aug 2020 17:50:48
You really believe Liverpool spoke to the echo to tell them we are not signing Thiago?

19.) 17 Aug 2020 18:21:09
I believe that the Echo has an official access to the club. The latter uses the Echo to "leak" information to the public. I would be surprised if the club is knowingly misleading the Echo as it would impact the newspaper credibility which the club needs to maintain.

In one of the latest article, the Echo has stated. "we have spoken to the club and we were told that Liverpool is not actively pursuing Thiago". This seems to indicate that the Echo is using the formal channel with LFC.

PS: One could possibly interpret the meaning of "active" to mean that the club likes the player if terms were to change down the road.

20.) 17 Aug 2020 18:21:47
PowerLFC, the Echo knows nowt mate.

21.) 17 Aug 2020 18:39:21
Smoke and mirrors and proper transfer dealing has been the name of the game since FSG put our house in order so who knows. Personally i think that if a world class MF is available and wants to join, the club would be open to breaking the usual MO if its going to improve our side. The fact that he had more touches, played more passes and had a 96% pass success rate v FCB tells us all we need to know about this guys quality.

22.) 17 Aug 2020 19:24:54
Just to be clear. I would be delighted if we signed Thiago. Similarly to most LFC fans I hope that we sign him.

One way to rationalize the purchase would be if Thiago was the only buy this window:
- center half: addition of Thiago would allow Fabinho to rotate when required
- wide option: addition if Thiago would allow Gini to play forward, a position he is familiar with (NL, PSV)



23 Jun 2020 18:31:53
Hello Eds. Are Liverpool interested in Igor Gomez of Sao Paulo as a replacement for Lallana? Thanks for replying.


{Ed002's Note - Igor Gomes (AM) Ajax, Seville, Braga, Barcelona and Real Madrid have all declared an interest in the player with general enquiries being made of his agent by Liverpool and Shakhtar Donetsk.}

1.) 23 Jun 2020 21:22:18
Was are enquiry recent Ed or some time ago?

{Ed002's Note - His agent mentioned it after talks with another club. This would be a few weeks ago.}



02 Jul 2017 16:55:14
Ed it could transpire that an offer of some sort has been made for Keita to RBL. No surprise there as Keita is a main target for Klopp. If this is the case then at least negotiations are being done as they should.


{Ed002's Note - RBL said as of yesterday they have had no offer for the player and he is not for sale. Liverpool may well put an offer in.}

1.) 02 Jul 2017 19:13:52
Thanks for reply Ed002. From what you stated that PSG have interest in Coutinho, and with Liverpool potentially making an offer for Keita, then it seems to corroborate Klopp saying that he's considering a change in the way the team is set up. Maybe this is a way of deflecting criticism if Liverpool do end up selling Coutinho? Appreciate your reaction, Ed002.

2.) 03 Jul 2017 09:45:06
It has been fairly widely reported that an offer will go in later this week. Probably just waiting for Klopp to get his feet back under the table. What I find interesting is that there are no reports of other clubs chasing Keita, same as no one else seemed to be interested in Salah.

{Ed002's Note - There is interest in him from elsewhere but (a) he is not for sale, and (b) if he were the price would put clubs off.}




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17 Sep 2020 10:31:59
Thiago is the player Klopp wanted by I agree with ED002 midfield would need to adjust. However, Thiago would organise the team better in my view and his calming influence is essential for game management.


1.) 17 Sep 2020 12:25:56
Just been reading some great stats on him as well.
It states that is major strength is pressing, only Wolfsburg's Maximilian Arnold reclaimed possession in the middle third more than Thiago in the Bundesliga last season - and he played 1,055 minutes more than the Spain international.
I know it was a different league he played in but he excelled in dribbles completed, ball recoveries and interceptions as well.

2.) 17 Sep 2020 12:31:48
So, Vonbp001. Now that Thiago has come in, will you now stop whinging or should we expect more divisive posts from you moving forward? Just an honest question.



13 Sep 2020 22:37:30
Ed002.West Ham like Liverpool haven't signed anyone of note. Not saying Liverpool are in a similar situation but do West Ham have the same financial model as Liverpool and can't afford to buy anyone? Their supporters are in revolt for not buying anyone who could make a real difference unlikes tje likes of Everton who it appears have no financial restrictions.


{Ed002's Note - Liverpool have signed someone. You need to stop this constant attack on a club that clearly you have very little knowledge of. A complete embarrassment.}

1.) 14 Sep 2020 08:34:39
Ed02, he has an agenda cos he is always polluting these boards with attacks and divisive rhetoric against the club for no reason at all and it seems either he is unable to grasp what is going on or simply here to cause unrest among the fan base.

2.) 14 Sep 2020 10:03:19
every club has fiancial restrictions, its not like we don't know where the money has gone, i see a lot of clubs gambling on there futures by still spending wildly, its all going to end in tears.

3.) 14 Sep 2020 10:44:33
Why do we as fans talk so much about the financial side of things? It really gets me because the vast majority of us have absolutely no idea how it works. I certainly don't anyway and when Ed2 has tried to explain it in the past its gone way over my head lol I'll leave that lot to the professionals.

4.) 14 Sep 2020 10:57:26
Ozone? Is that you?

5.) 14 Sep 2020 18:17:14
IR, it is prolly Waro in disguise.

6.) 14 Sep 2020 19:16:40
Waro always attacked the owners but he phrased his posts better.

I didn't agree with Waro but this new guy just comes across as a spoiled child.



13 Sep 2020 11:09:01
Ed 002 is there still interest in the Seville central defender rated by Klopp as a possible starter? Sorry can't remember the name.


{Ed002's Note - Diego Carlos - but Liverpool don't have the money to buy him right now.}



06 Sep 2020 20:27:51 refer to Liverpool heading the warning regarding Thiago. Seems to me LFC management can't get anything right. Finances are seemingly in a disastrous situation and not only can't they afford buying anyone player of note, they're seeing rivals steaming ahead with buying top players left, right and centre. Do you see a conclusion of this Thiago story or do you think Bayern will ultimately tell LFC to look somewhere else?


{Ed002's Note - The player has had his head turned by Liverpool and now the club don’t want to follow through. It is a bit of a mess.}

1.) 06 Sep 2020 20:48:05
F$G and Klopp out, eh vonbp?

Do you actually support Liverpool? Cos I didn't see you at all when we were winning things, but now you're here moaning on a daily basis about how we're going to finish 5th because we haven't signed 218 players in the transfer window.

2.) 06 Sep 2020 20:57:14
Hi ed002, so Liverpool have pulled out all together? If so are they still willing to sell wijnaldum?

{Ed002's Note - That is not what I said.}

3.) 06 Sep 2020 21:06:39
I was in Rome when we won the first European Cup and was in Madrid for the sixth. I have been to Liverpool countless of times starting in the late 70s travelling hundreds of miles. I have been a lifetime supporter. When I'm critical of LFC and I have every right it's because I only want to see LFC returning to the days when Liverpool won titles under Bob Paisley.

{Ed047's Note - It must have been a dream then because I was certain you’d just won the Champions League and Premier League in consecutive seasons.

I’m going to have to stop eating blue smarties! 🤦‍♂️

4.) 06 Sep 2020 21:07:42
I seem to recall there is a lot of capital tied up in the main stand and new training ground. And that this is building to the future, so can we please stop crying that FSG isn't spending any cash. Also remember we are in the middle of a C.V. that has ruined economic activity.
Matt in FL.

5.) 06 Sep 2020 21:03:32
Interesting Ed that you said the club don’t seem to want to follow through. Shame because I think Thiago is a great players.

Could that mean at the moment it could mean Gini leaves and the club try for a work permit for grujic?

{Ed002's Note - It means nothing has changed - the assumption remains that there is not the money to pay for Thiago at this time.]

6.) 06 Sep 2020 21:17:35
Not sure what flying around the world has to do with anything von
your moaning for no reason once again
we have just dominated european football for last year and won everything in site plus the premier league
get a grip mate please.

7.) 06 Sep 2020 21:27:07
Von, you're not displaying the maturity I would expect from a man who must be 60 at least based on what you've said.

Can't turn around and whine that people label you as a git if you act like one mate.

8.) 06 Sep 2020 21:32:01
So basically we are struggling to sell players to put the funds together for Thiago. If we make the sales I think we get him providing someone else doesn't get him before.

Calling us a mess financially is a bit much imo, C.V. has had a major impact and the fact we aren't spending outside our means is a good thing imo. Long term future is far more important then a signing to appease fans.

Also, OP I'm sorry you slept through last season as we won the league and it was fantastic. Or do you want to return to 2010 with Roy Hodgson and David Ngog?

{Ed002's Note - It was always clear it would be a struggle for many clubs this summer.}

9.) 06 Sep 2020 21:34:52
FSG are business people and have invested into our club. This includes players, staff, facilities and of course Anfield.

We have to stick within our finances and are not cash rich like our counterparts in Manchester and Chelsea.

We have a great manager, a now good transfer team as well as a squad who in the last few years have played outstanding, exciting football and won an array of trophies along the way.

10.) 06 Sep 2020 22:00:48
ed002 with the money issues going around and the window closing after the season has started I think there will be a lot of sales done near the end of the window when teams will hope there is a bargain to be had and teams want players out of there club am sure spurs will try to do business near the end Daniel Levy loves transfer deadline day.

11.) 06 Sep 2020 22:05:49
I think it's a time machine you need Von.

12.) 06 Sep 2020 23:14:36
What's wrong with being a supporter who still believes Kenny Dalglish was LFC best ever player? Do you have the privilege of watching him play at Anfield? Yes I wouldn't mind going back in time to watch Dalglish, Souness, Hughes, et al. Cheers mate.

13.) 06 Sep 2020 23:39:46
I swear some fans would be happier if we'd paid 45mil for Tsimi and 60mil for taki.

14.) 07 Sep 2020 00:04:07
Due to our financial model being impacted by C.V., are people leaping to an assumption that LFC management are getting it wrong?

to me it seems like all clubs are being impacted by C.V.. Liverpool. prior to C.V., were on a good path isn't that rght ed02? except for the mega cash rich clubs like City, Chelsea etc I can't really see what else Liverpool could have done other than be more like City.

{Ed002's Note - It was OK but on the edge as I have explained - it took account of money that was due to arrive, and in this case didn't.}



04 Sep 2020 22:52:32
You may call me negative but with Chelsea, United, Arsenal and of course now much stronger than last season, and Liverpool being hamstrung by lack of funds unlike any other top 6 team, I'm not so confident about Liverpool retaining a top four place, let alone retaining the league title. No successful team in any league has gone four transfer windows without strengthening its squad. I can't see Liverpool going to Stamford Bridge and getting three points this time round as things stand. Also, teams going to Anfield will park the bus knowing there's hardly any creativity in midfield.


1.) 05 Sep 2020 00:09:44
As you say, the team hasn't changed personal a whole lot over the last few seasons, but mentally it has. The team now believes in itself and doesn't panic like it used too. Teams have been sitting back at Anfield the last few seasons and it hasn't done us any harm. We will be there or thereabouts come the end of the season.

2.) 05 Sep 2020 00:52:43
And how did it work out for the teams that came and parked the bus at Anfield the last 2 seasons pal?

3.) 05 Sep 2020 01:10:26
Calm down walter. If I knew you if give you a slap. We will be at top. of the pile come the end of the season, Chelsea and united have recruited well so far, yes.

We have the best manager in the world while they have two very average managers. As well as that we have a top team who in the last two seasons have won the highest accolades. Don't worry pal we are still a top top team.

4.) 05 Sep 2020 01:24:40
Hi Negative,
We bought Minamino in January.

5.) 05 Sep 2020 01:29:00
Is this a wind up? We (liverpool fans) are so used to our team falling short and needing strengthening, that I don't think we can handle it when we don't need strengthening and are on top.

All season people have been saying "who shall we sign, what do we need" and the answer was always a back up lb and maybe someone who can play across the front three.


We haven't not signed anyone mate. What are you jibbering about. Did you not watch us last season? We were imperious. Absolutely first class. I'm actually worried that we sign someone who upsets the apple cart (have I got my metaphors in order there? Oh well sounds right)

We didn't sign anyone last summer and we won the world Cup! We don't have an ageing squad, they're in their prime. We won't make top 4? Im not usually too rude, but you sound like an idiot. Sorry.

With an adversary like city, it's hard to say we will win the league. Who knows really. But we'll be up there. This is the team that beat Barcelona 4 0. City 5 2. Chelsea 5 3. You think vvd and mo salah are going to be playing europa league in 2021? That is patently ridiculous.

6.) 05 Sep 2020 01:30:03
I won't call you negative, I'll call you a WUM.

7.) 05 Sep 2020 01:34:41
You're not negative, you are spot on. I've been saying the same thing but as been mentioned I hope we'll somehow manage to raise some cash from any out going to strengthen.

{Ed0666's Note - I fully expect more signings pal.

8.) 05 Sep 2020 03:19:57
yea winning the league back to back will be tough.

9.) 05 Sep 2020 03:54:31
If you said that of a team of Rafa's, or Hodgson's era, then I would definitely agree with you. This is a team that gelled together so well, and just won a CL and a PL trophy.

10.) 05 Sep 2020 06:23:23
I expect you were saying exactly the same thing last summer, you post the same thing every other day, give it a rest.

11.) 05 Sep 2020 08:02:15
Where have Utd got "so much stronger"?

12.) 05 Sep 2020 08:03:48
Who have Arsenal and United signed that make them "much stronger" than last season?

13.) 05 Sep 2020 08:15:09
Bmena red, wind your neck in, this is a banter site and people are entitled to there opinions without idiots like you threatening to slap them, if everyone on her just wrote we are going to win the league and Liverpool are boss it would be a very boring site and not worth having, oh an feel free to come and slap me if you don’t agree.

14.) 05 Sep 2020 08:17:27
Do you know something, if there are no big signings and finishing 2nd-4th means the club are financially stable for the next few years, in the middle of a world crisis, so what?

15.) 05 Sep 2020 08:39:29
Struggle for top 4? Did I just read that right😂😂. Jesus I thought after finally wiing the title after 30 years would see a summer long party, now I k ow we couldn't celebrate properly but all I've seen since is abs horserubbish like this all over the place. We will be bringing a few in, the eds have said said that, we'll have to offload a few to do that but who cares. 97 points 98 points and now we're going to struggle for top 4🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️. Some people don't deserve this team.

16.) 05 Sep 2020 08:45:59
Thumbs down option again please.

17.) 05 Sep 2020 09:09:32
Yes, OP. I will call you negative cos that is what your mindless rants have shown of late. I won’t even bother responding to the amount of gunk in your post as it is void of anything of actual substance. Just a paragraph full of emotional discharge. Peace and Love.

18.) 05 Sep 2020 09:23:53
Seems like some are bored and just coming on to have a right ole moan
We have the best front 3 in all of football
The best keeper the best defender, the best pair of attacking fullbacks and to top it off the best captain and manager in all of football
For me plenty to be grateful and very happy about.

19.) 05 Sep 2020 10:38:31
JJ, the worst thing here is that what the OP says is not even true. He says no team has gone 4 windows without strengthening and won the league. Err, did we not sign Adrian and Lonergan as backup GKs when we needed them OR sign Minamino in Jan OR sign Tsimikas at LB this window as much needed LB cover OR did I sleep thru all that these signings and these players magically appear?

Oh, I get it. This OP is pissed cos we are not “strengthening” the way HE wants as in, spending 250m on players the way Chelsea are or the way Utd have been pissing money out their arses yet their first 11 has the same wholes in it as they did last season. Or that we did not sign the players I mentioned for big money, yeah? As I said, emotional rants with no substance are not worth debating.

20.) 05 Sep 2020 11:12:21
Great post red Meister.

21.) 05 Sep 2020 11:49:56
hahaha. From 99 points to 5th. Because we'll be pants without Lovren or Lallana. Hahaha. Good one. Cheers for the chuckle mate. :)

22.) 05 Sep 2020 12:02:01
Just to point out the original post wasn't mine. I can't say I disagree with it 100% but still doing my best to be positive.

23.) 05 Sep 2020 12:54:17
Nonsense original post, boring and done to death now.




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15 Sep 2020 22:15:08
Cheers Sean. I agree we all want the same thing: Liverpool becoming dominant as in the 70s and 80s. If not for C.V. I'm certain we would have but I think it'll be much harder now with rivals signing quality players which is now almost impossible for Liverpool but time will tell.




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15 Sep 2020 20:31:16
Thanks for replying Ed002 and I apologise to you or anyone else who criticised me for going overboard about the financial issues facing LFC. I make no excuses but having waited 30 years to see my beloved Liverpool win the league again, this C.V. was the worst thing to happen to Liverpool as I fully expected LFC to dominate English football for at least 3 or 4 years. Could still happen but the C.V. is a real kick in the teeth for Liverpool's ambitions.




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27 Dec 2017 18:44:11
Maybe Ed002 but Liverpool have finally got VVD and he may prove to be decisive in top four and inroads in Champions.




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11 Aug 2017 14:53:01
Ed's too close to end of window to allow Coutinho to leave. There are no alternatives. You said so yourself. RBL won't sell Keita.


{Ed002's Note - Macca says that Nobby Keita is back on - and I have listed alternatives. It gets a mention in the Sharkopod I did this morning.}



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06 Aug 2017 22:13:57
Shocking to say the least. so RBL resisted LFC's attempts for Keita while Klopp stated that Coutinho would not be sold as LFC are not a selling club. Not only are LFC a selling club. there's no ambition at all. Selling Coutinho now would send the wrong signal to the squad at the start of a new season.


{Ed002's Note - Players are transients, they come and go. Another or others will arrive and it will all soon be forgotten.}




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06 Sep 2020 23:14:36
What's wrong with being a supporter who still believes Kenny Dalglish was LFC best ever player? Do you have the privilege of watching him play at Anfield? Yes I wouldn't mind going back in time to watch Dalglish, Souness, Hughes, et al. Cheers mate.




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06 Sep 2020 21:06:39
I was in Rome when we won the first European Cup and was in Madrid for the sixth. I have been to Liverpool countless of times starting in the late 70s travelling hundreds of miles. I have been a lifetime supporter. When I'm critical of LFC and I have every right it's because I only want to see LFC returning to the days when Liverpool won titles under Bob Paisley.


{Ed047's Note - It must have been a dream then because I was certain you’d just won the Champions League and Premier League in consecutive seasons.

I’m going to have to stop eating blue smarties! 🤦‍♂️



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31 Aug 2020 15:20:22
Hope you're right but I doubt it.




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27 Aug 2020 19:21:06
Ok Ed002. it's just that it would crazy to sell Mane'when there are no replacements out there and when so much is relied upon the front three.


{Ed002's Note - The Liverpool fans have been craving the likes of Ousmane Dembele, Sarr and Adama Traore - all of which are to me not as good as Mane - but Klopp has praised them all and the Liverpool supporters seem very keen as well.}



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09 Aug 2020 16:41:39
Fair enough but could it be LFC are saving funds for Ben White who would definitely be home grown? It appears buying home grown players is at a premium inspite of C.V. financial effects.


{Ed002's Note - Liverpool has had a sustained interest in Ben White and he is seen as the pick of the younger HG CBs, but they have not made an approach as of this time. Leeds are keen to take him, Brighton don't want to sell, certainly not on the cheap, but a decent offer would tempt them. Liverpool do not seem to trust Phillips who would make a good option that would also save money. The youngsters are perhaps a little away from the first team squad so he would be a good option. And unlike Mandi, not off to the AFCON.