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24 Nov 2017 17:22:40
Got a real solid rumour for everyone.
Ante Coric just liked my 68week old instagram comment "come to liverpool mate"
Clearly on his way in January.
You're welcome!


1.) 25 Nov 2017 03:22:13
Ante Coric is not even half as good as Woodburn. Y?

2.) 25 Nov 2017 13:14:25
I think if couts leaves woodburn should be given a chance instead of bringing in a replacement.

3.) 25 Nov 2017 14:12:52
Donnyred92. Would love that too but unfortunately won't happen. Woodburn would have a couple of bad games which is expected at his age and everyone would be on his case every opportunity . A player of coutinho quality needs to be replaced with quality and I'm not saying like for like. We all know the problems in the team and I don't know about everyone else but if I was offered the chance of selling coutinho for x amount and sign oblak and vvd for similar amount of money I think that would overall make us a better team even losing a world class player like coutinho.

4.) 25 Nov 2017 15:50:07
Exactly IR89. If we lost two or three games in a row once coutinho leaves twitter, the papers and prob this site would be flooded with people saying we didn't replace coutinho.

5.) 25 Nov 2017 23:59:59
I do agree IR89 and it's a shame that that is how the modern game is. But I also agree that if couts leaves we should really aim to focus on shoring up our defence before looking for a direct replacement. In a perfect world it would be great if he had a change of heart and we sorted the defence too haha but can't see that happening.

6.) 27 Nov 2017 18:07:19
I like Woodburn but he is basically a stick figure currently, he needs to gain some muscle in order to play regularly in the prem.

7.) 28 Nov 2017 14:18:03
Agreed, Woodburn has huge potential but IMO needs gradually introducing to first team football.



17 Nov 2017 19:33:17
Hi Eds,
genuine question about Pipco I'm afraid! But I'm not sure if I've seen you address this angle.

With the Coutinho issue seemingly toxic, what was the reasoning behind the club keeping him and turning down the summer offers.
Was it the fact that they didn't have a replacement but now Salah has performed better than expected and he's not such a big miss?
Is it because the club don'd like the optics of being seen as a selling club?
Did they fear a fan mutiny?
Someone in particular vetoed the deal?
Did they think (as all us fans would) that he would just get on with it?
Or is it something else or a mix of a few things.

I do appreciate these things are complex and that the landscape is constantly changing and there's a lot of pressure to do deals.

We can say with the benefit of hindsight it looks like the deal should have been done then. you always hear the football truism that there's no point keeping a player at a club once they have their heart set on a move elsewhere.
So just curious, why did dig our heels in so hard?
In the case of Coutinho and perhaps VVD it seems to have panned out that way.
The club is left with a disruptive player and probably will get a lower fee than was possible in the summer. and they probably end up there anyway!
So what did they think was going to happen?
Apologies if this seems besides the point or a bit dim. it all just seems like a bit of a farce from where I'm standing. wasted energy.

Cheers for all the top work keeping us informed.


{Ed002's Note - i can’t really answer the reasons why but Liverpool are one of the clubs that embroil themselves in drawn out transfers. Other clubs work the not happy > decent bid > gone paradigm. It works for them. Being stuck with players not 100% committed is not neat.}

1.) 18 Nov 2017 03:27:05
We thrashed Arsenal and West ham without him.

2.) 18 Nov 2017 00:44:49
thanks the response ed002.

3.) 19 Nov 2017 08:56:34
He seemed committed yesterday and what about the 'big luv' between him and Klopp when he was substituted!

4.) 19 Nov 2017 12:33:39
Agreed, was 100% committed yesterday and there's some man love between him n Klopp for certain. Looks a little greedy at times but has been nowt but professional on the field for us.
He'll still leave though I'm sure.

5.) 19 Nov 2017 19:47:05
Spoon and Ed2 I really think you are missing the point here. It wasn’t so much about Coutinho as about a statement to players and other teams that we won’t be held to ransom or bullied by other clubs.

Having just built a new stand and got back into the CL it just sends out the wrong message to the other players and to the world if we go and sell our best players again.

If we’d sold Couts then we give the green light to all the teams in Europe that they can cherry pick our best players. We also then tell all our best players that they can go if they kick up a bit of a stink.

We had no choice but to hold firm in my opinion for the good of the club as a whole.

{Ed002's Note - The players and other clubs are not interested in any “messages” the club sends out.}

6.) 20 Nov 2017 08:14:13
I agree with Ingsand things. It does seem clubs do care what other clubs think, we re constantly reminded of the fact. Fulham, Soton spring to mind straight away.

I think it says we are trying at least to say we won't be steam rolled.

Couts needs to show his minerals otherwise he risks being overlooked by other clubs and his national team. Attitude is part of that, and maybe he's been reminded you shouldn't sh1t on people on the way up, as the saying goes.

{Ed002's Note - Fulham and Southampton coomplained about Liverpool for their illegal approaches for players. No one cares about any "messages" Liverpool send out - except the Liverpool fans. Peaople continue to be of the view there is something special about the club and the Liverpool players, there isn't.}



31 Jul 2016 15:52:26
Ante coric liking more Liverpool photos on Instagram including one of kloppo with a beaming smile. Really hope we get this lad even though it's probably unlikely. Amazing talent.


1.) 31 Jul 2016 16:07:38
He should stay put and get regular football IMO.
We could field 2 teams of midfielders at the minute, another would be literally BONKERS. 😝.

2.) 31 Jul 2016 16:42:33
potentially agree with you Ron, unless Lallana and Markovic go no point in bringing someone in, i'd hate to lose out though - buy and loan back for the season?

3.) 31 Jul 2016 16:55:57
Grt him and loan him back.

4.) 31 Jul 2016 17:52:30
And then change the name of the club to Chelsea.

5.) 31 Jul 2016 21:51:57
Yeah change the name of the club to chelsea. At least your name would be on the premier league trophy.

6.) 31 Jul 2016 23:21:20
But only on 1 European cup.

7.) 01 Aug 2016 06:56:18
I can only hope that we end up with a loan program that is as well run as Chelsea's apparently is. As it stands at least they have a plan for each of their players. In the last few years we have had to watch a number of players see their careers go backwards by joining us. In my opinion, one of the best things Klopp has done is look at the way we treat our youngsters and seek to fix some of the issues with it. Buy/ loan back works well if the player is settled in a club which suits the way we want our players to play.

{Ed001's Note - Chelsea's is awful! Very few of the players improve due to it. They very rarely get anyone for their first team from it, which should be the sole aim of the club. It is just a pointless waste of resources.}

8.) 01 Aug 2016 09:12:43
Thank dog you disagreed with that last post, Ed.
Chelsea's policy is just totally selfish and scatter-gun.
They don't give a toss about the individual players.

Just a few examples: Ken Omeruo, a 31 cap international who has been bouncing from club to club for 4 years. Cristian Cuevas, another full international whose career was just thrown on the dung-pile. Marco van Ginkel, big things were expected of him until Chelski came along and interrupted his natural development. Lucas Piazón, a very talented player last seen warming the bench at Reading. His career has been on a steady downward curve since signing for dem greedy blues. And Christian Atsu? I never understood why he signed for Chelsea or why Chelsea signed him. He wasn't that young and was already performing heroics for Ghana. But, leaving a CL club like Porto after winning the league and then being sent to Vitesse Arnhem the next day? Wtf is that about!?

9.) 01 Aug 2016 10:05:48
Good post Jurgen Meister, Chelsea just seem to speculate because they have the money and buy whatever they can. You'd even wonder are they just scared they'd miss out on someone so they buy them anyway.

{Ed001's Note - no, they plan to develop them for a profit. It is not fear or about buying whoever they can, there is a plan in place. The issue, for me, is that it is taking away resources from the number one priority of the club - the first team.}

10.) 01 Aug 2016 10:18:02
ED001 glad you said that, I shied away from outright saying it because it is more speculative than what I said but has always felt that way. It is wrong on so many levels, as you say they don't develop players (meaning they then go out and buy more for first team), players don't develop, the resources available to other clubs are reduced unless they want to loan (with no guarantees of getting more than a season), wasn't there a recent transfer where they basically gazumped Palace and then lent the guy back to the selling club?

{Ed001's Note - I can't remember, they have nipped in and beaten clubs to buy up young talent, but then so have we, with the sole intention of developing them.}

11.) 01 Aug 2016 11:31:04
Think you mean Michael Hector. Yeah, that (and Djilobodji) was a weird one. He could be starting for Palace but instead, the only minutes he's played on their US tour were on the golf course. Once Zouma comes back he won't even be fifth choice and Conte is probably going to spunk some big money on a center-back very soon. While they also have Andreas Christensen coming back from his time as an actual footballer next summer. Chelsea are just vulgar human traffickers.




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14 Jan 2018 14:04:24
Yes we have our weaknesses but also. salah vs Delph
Come on Red Men!
No reason why we can’t beat city at anfield.


1.) 14 Jan 2018 14:23:46
Get the feeling they will play Danilo there to combat Salah.

2.) 14 Jan 2018 14:26:01
I belive he won't start Delph, we'll see tho.

3.) 14 Jan 2018 14:29:37
I agree Andy. Pep will do something to combat Salah no way would he leave Delph in but be great if he did.

4.) 14 Jan 2018 14:45:23
But Salah will likely be allowed to swap with Firmino or someone and if he gets little boy down the flank he’ll move central surely? We’re a fluid team and that should help.

5.) 14 Jan 2018 15:26:01
:Little boy down the flank"I know its not but it does sound so wrong😁.

6.) 14 Jan 2018 19:46:36
Maybe, but neither of them is a specialist left back or even defender.
Salah can have either on toast.



10 Jun 2015 01:37:49
At the moment, I would be so happy if we sold a fringe player. seems weird but it feels like the club have forgotten how to do it!


1.) 10 Jun 2015 09:39:35
fringe player? like who ? all of them have played for the first team and considerable number of matches

2.) 10 Jun 2015 12:48:34
I would expect Aspas to go any day now. We really were brilliant for his career weren't we. Alberto will probably follow him too.

3.) 10 Jun 2015 21:29:25
Aspas contributed to Sevilla winning the EL and will be playing in the CL next year. Not bad for a guy BR hailed YET never gave a chance. And BR,who bought and hailed him in the media, will remain potless for the forseeable future as well as on the brink with every passing day. I`d say he got the best out of that deal.



03 Jun 2015 00:54:46
Seeing as it's looking like we'll get Milner (no-brainer signing I think) and how versatile he is. just wondering what do people think would be his best position in our team?

I know he's known to prefer a central midfield role but if we keep playing a wingback system i think he would be an ideal RWB as he has a great cross and will defend his wing solidly and link up well.

Don't think anyone really made that position their own for us this season and would like to see marko and ibe used further forward anyway.

He can tackle but I don't think he's the CDM some make him out to be. i think we'd do well to sign a proper classy one.

On another note. sad to see it's not looking like there will be an improvement in how our transfer dealings are reported/leaked early in the media. Top clubs don't have stories in papers saying "we've more-or-less signed player X" they just sign them and announce them. hopefully there's some desire at fsg to tighten this up as it looks amateurish to me and i'm just a no nothing fan.


1.) 03 Jun 2015 06:28:33
If Brendan has any sense, he would revert back to the diamond formation and use Milner and Hendo as box to box mids on either side of Lucas/Can. please do not even mention RWB or LWB on this forum. I do not want to see the team resort to desperation by going back to 3 at the back. But going by Brendan's cluelessness, i would not be surprised if Milner ended up as our 1st choice GK.



23 Dec 2014 02:12:30
Hey eds, just seen liverpool legend Sami hyppia has resigned from Brighton. Any long shot chance he could come back to lfc as a coach to help us with defence? Just wishful thinking I know but could be good for all parties perhaps?


{Ed001's Note - unlikely unless forced on him by the club, Rodgers has already said he doesn't want a defensive coach.}

1.) 23 Dec 2014 11:50:39
Ed did he categorically say that as when he categorically says something the opposite occurs.



17 Nov 2014 04:17:32
really disappointed to see so many reds on this page becoming such humourless, reactionary and, dare i say, entitled eejits. be careful what you wish for, we could end up turning worse than spurs if we go down this rodgers out road. obviously we're going through a bad patch and there are circumstances people not achieving their best. guess what. sometimes teams go through a patch of bad form. our players aren't playing well, the manager's not getting the best out of them for now, so the trannys look poor while that's happening but it only takes 2 or 3 wins or so before everyone changes their bloody tune. look at newcastle. what happened to getting behind the team and the joy of being a football fan. still in cl, still in league cup. still can get top 4, still have promising players who can make us dream again. just don't understand all the entitlement. really thought reds were better than that. YNWA


{Ed001's Note - nothing to do with entitlement. Shows how little you understand if that is what you think it is about. It is to do with having an arrogant, overly stubborn manager who is overspending and talking nonsense, while not being able to back it up with results on the pitch. Comparing it with Newcastle is just ridiculous. It is not even close to the same situation. All of the Newcastle fans know Pardew is managing with one hand tied behind his back by Ashley and that is the main issue there. A lot don't like the manager too, but the main frustration is Ashley who they can't do anything about, so Pardew was just getting the brunt of it.}

1.) Well said, Ed! That is the issue I and many fans have w/ BR. Comparing his issues w/ Pardew`s is an ill-advised comment.

2.) Spoon lord is one of the many blind supporters being swindled by Brendan and his fancy talks. Comparing Brendan to Pardew is simply ridiculous. Pardew has done well with the players he has and the negativity surrounding the boardroom at St. James Park. He does not get much funds in the transfer market unlike Brendan who has the habit of wasting whatever money FSG gives him. His tactics are mediocre and theoretical. He talks big, but the results on the pitch are below expectations. Not sure how much patience FSG will have with a manager who is well out of his depth at LFC, though Mr Henry has to take the blame for giving an inexperienced manager the job in the first place.

3.) I'm not denying rodgers has an ego or talks too much or that his transfers haven't worked out YET. but we're only a quarter or so into the season and people are already calling for his head and to me that is the bleatings of entitled, knee jerk fans who were probably singing his praises and lauding his tactical acumen last season when we were doing so well. i only use newcastle to point out how fickle the narratives that get weaved around clubs are and how a few wins or performances can lighten the mood. doesn't help that we lost 3 games before an international break and everyone has too much time on their hands to get pissed off, it's crap but do we as fans really want to build a movement of negativity against the manager or do we want to support the team.? we all hoped for better results by now. it's not going to plan but i don;t think we;re at a total crisis point yet and there's still hope for improvement. fair play if we keep playing boring footy and finish 8th i'd expect rodgers to go. but i really think sacking rodgers midseason would be disastrous and risks turning us into spurs and spurs are pathetic. who we going to get realistically? de boer? i'm not so sure. probably someone like pulis! give him a chance to turn it around. get behind the manager and the team for the rest of the season, it could be more fun than this YNWA

{Ed001's Note - I am sorry but I disagree, and all the last few months of the previous season did was give him the chance to start this season as manager and show it was down to him. He has shown it wasn't down to him, and the rest of his failings were already enough to make him lucky to have the chance to even get another season.}

4.) I'm not swindled by brendan, he's not doing well at the moment. he can be annoying. he's been a dafty he just needs to show some more balls. i acknowledge this. i just think it's beyond daft to call for his head at this stage of the season when so much in footy is about luck and momentum which is what i was refering to re: toon.

well run clubs change managers in the summer. everyone has opinions, i just think by reading this site you'd think all lfc fans are BR out and i don't think that's true at all. i think the structure and long term planning of the club could be improved a great deal and i hope FSG and BR can sort it.

5.) Spoonlord, u talk about well run clubs changing managers only in the summer. Ever heard of a club named Chelsea? They changed managers midway through a season a number of times because the team was struggling and failing to adapt to the manager's system, and it won them the UCL and the FA cup (multiple occasions i think under Hiddink and Di Matteo). Not to forget Chelsea are a very well run club in spite of all the money they spend. Schalke are another example who have changed managers midway and actually got better. This notion of sacrificing the present for the future is absolute rubbish. Only deluded LFC fans believe in it bcoz of the excuses recent LFC managers have come up with. Brendan had his chance and blew it. Apart from Sturridge and Coutinho, the rest of his signings have either flopped or he does not rate them himself yet bought them for reasons known only to him, just shows how poor his judgement is in the transfer market. He sacrificed a winning formula for his own which had already failed previously, just shows how arrogant and deluded he is.
Also u only get luck and momentum in football if the players and manager know what they are doing, at this point of time this cannot be said about anyone at LFC. Brendan by wasting FSG's resources without giving the desired results is standing in the club's way of achieving long term financial stability. His failure to make use of a talented youth academy just shows his lack of faith in youth, Brendan giving youth a chance is a myth. Sterling and Flanno only got a chance due to lack of options in the squad. If Brendan had been given 100 million to spend in his very first season, neither Sterling or Flanno would have seen first team football in any capacity at LFC.

6.) So sl you think it is acceptable to sell one player after finishing second, spend 8 weeks spunking £120m up the swanney on mediocrity and players we did not need. Then spend the beginning of the next season playing slow bland football, a complete dichotomy from what took you to 2nd the last season and refuse to change it to the point where you are 5 points off relegation. But we should not question this and blindly follow like lemmings straight off the cliff. Now i'm not calling for his head just yet but this entitled argument really gets my goat who are you to be judging the rest of us and to what standards. yours my friend?

7.) The only entitlement on these pages are from fans entitled to voice their opinion.
I get lots of disagree's and some agree's when I post but I don't then come on here and call every poster this and that for not agreeing with me. .

Well I do but the Eds don't allow them through for some reason!

I do respond to people's comments but always politely (I think), and that is he way it should be.
I can handle people not agreeing with me but I can't stick personal abuse.
I don't want Rodgers sacked yet.
I have not received any criticism from anyone for having that view.
I think that's quite refreshing to be fair.
My reason for wanting him to stay is quite simple really.
He has been here for 2 and a half years or so.
1st 6 months= Awful.
Next 18 months= Absolutely brilliant.
Last 3 months= Back to crap.
We have spent more time playing well under this manager than playing poorly and for that reason I am happy for Rodgers to carry on as boss FOR NOW.

8.) 17 Nov 2014 11:26:38
So do you all think that if Suarez would have stayed and we kept the same squad we would be doing as well as we did last season.

So basically he was the only reason for our success, BR and the rest had nothing to do with it.

I'm at a loss as to the argument to say it's all BR's fault because he's stubborn.

The same argument could be put to all managers.

9.) Well said JonnyBarnes. Whilst I disagree with your stand point on Rodgers, I accept it.

For me though he was awful for the first 6 months, good for the two after we signed Sturridge and Coutinho. Then he had a shocking summer window. Then he was awful for the first 4 months but Suarez kept us in contention. Then after his Biesla advice he was brilliant for 3 months. He then bottled it in the last month of the season. Then he had another shocker in the transfer window and has started this season absolutely awful again.

That's what, 5 months of good football? 4/5 transfer windows that were atrocious?

I can see why you want to stick by him. I only hope you also have an open mind and can accept why others want him gone.

10.) EMS. absolutely I can understand why some people have turned.
Even I have turned from being certain he was the right man at the start of the season to not being sure now.
I have been watching the same car crash start to the season as everyone else.
In my opinion though, there are extenuating circumstances.
1. Suarez.
2. Sturridge.
3. Losing the league title ( I don't care what anyone says you have to be on a psychological downer after coming so close and playing so well.

If we had the same players that we had last year and we were sat in 12th place then I would be rioting to get him out, but that's not the case.
I said right at the start of the season that I would not judge this team for 3 months due to the issues stated above.
Well my 3 month appraisal is nearly up and at the moment were shabite but that may change over the next few weeks.
I honestly think if you watch the last 2 performances against Madrid and Chelsea without a bias for or against Rodgers and compare them to the performances against Newcastle, Basel, Villa and QPR they have shown a marked improvement.
We did not get any points, I accept that, but I think the improvement in performance is there so hopefully the result and performance we all want is not far away.
Still crapping it over Palace though:)
I would also argue that it was Sturridge not Suarez who saved Liverpool's early form last season as Luis was busy picking Ivanovic's arm out of his teeth with a steak pick whilst getting splinters in his arse for the first 2 months.

11.) For me, while I wouldn't exactly be crying myself to sleep if BR were to go, I'm happy to have him see out the games through Boxing Day and see where we're at which I think would take us through game 19. If still nearer the bottom then the top, then at that point I'd likely be jumping wholesale on the train to Sackville.

That said, I do think the return of Sturridge will help paper over the many, many cracks a bit and it wouldn't surprise me to see us sat around 7th/8th end of the year in which case BR gets the rest of the season as well to set things right.

No CL though at the end and this summer I would get rid and put into place a proper DoF/manager combination.

12.) I agree with that RDL.

13.) Appreciate your thoughts all,
apologies for coming on a bit strong with "entitled" after a few ales last night. a bit of an incendiary word. surprised it slipped through the net actually!
jonnybarnes you put it better than i did.
hoping rodgers gets to the end of the season, and we turn things around. that is all. we have some good players and a good manager, think he's just a bit lost at the mo.

14.) No apology needed Spoon.
I hope you don't mind me calling you Spoon because there is no way I am calling anyone Spoonlord without knowing what it means first?
What does it mean?
Sounds like a fetish. Or is that just me?
Your post sparked a debate. Democracy in action.
In my head though I run this site!!
Like Sammy Lee ran Liverpool:)
ha ha




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15 Apr 2018 21:46:11
Very interesting that people see his qualities in midfield, ed1. Thanks.
Do you have any inclination of what type of midfield role Trent is expected by the club to play. or in your opinion where his attributes would see him suited?

I. e. the deeper “6” type role or a more box to box role with more attacking license type role.
Appreciate this is asking for a crystal ball in some respect and players can adapt to many roles but it would be interesting to hear your thoughts.


{Ed001's Note - more of a box to box type role as he has pace and energy to get up and down.}



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22 Feb 2018 14:27:43
The interest in Navas makes me wonder if Karius is expected to keep the shirt of he keeps playing well and Navas could be an experienced number 2.




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22 Jan 2018 08:00:44
Wow, don’t want to get my hopes up.
Fingers crossed.
This guy is one of the cleanest strikers of the ball i’ve ever seen. Would be great for replacing PC’s goals from outside the box.




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16 Jan 2018 13:15:46
Palace want a keeper apparently. Maybe hodgy can do us a favour. He owes us big time! Also think he would suit their style more.


{Ed002's Note - They are already in talks with one goalkeeper and have an option lined up.}



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16 Jan 2018 12:57:42
Finally some clarity on the issue. Good for all concerned and most of all the club.
Makes sense to support karius to the end of the season and give him a run of games as he is our champions league keeper. Looks to me like it was the plan all along to make karius no1 in January after easing him in.
Will support the slick German for the rest of the season and hopefully Simon can get a move in January somewhere he is wanted, I’ve slated him on many occasion but he is a red and has done his best even though he’s not up to scratch.
Really heartening to see long standing issues starting to being addressed regardless of how overdue they are.
We’re on the up.





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30 Aug 2019 00:35:49
I don’t think klopp will ever manage Bayern. He doesn’t really like them. It would kill his relationship with Dortmund. Can see him managing Germany one day though.




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13 Aug 2019 11:59:58
IMO pep is tactically naive over 2 legs and overcomplicated. Always seems to try something ‘clever and surprising’ that bites him in the bum.
The 2 leg format doesn’t suit city because their home support And aura is so weak compared to most established European giants.
His teams, so dominant in the league and used to blowing teams away, are also not tested enough and get surprised when actually going toe to toe with class opposition.
You could also argue the expectation for them to justify themselves and finally win it makes it harder for them, a bit like how winning the league again for us is a kind of burden.




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07 Jul 2019 00:56:16
Fair enough wanting new players but its simply not true that buying players is the only way to improve.
Buying a new player could just as easily disrupt the incredible squad harmony that is one of our strongest and most unique weapons.
The scary thing about our team is we have not even seen them at their best yet!




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02 Aug 2018 15:50:24
Respect to all the Ed’s sharing their time and knowledge.
Amazed that Ed002 does this for free actually.


{Ed001's Note - I couldn't afford his time if we had to pay for it!}



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02 Apr 2018 11:44:31
Really happy for Lucas that he’s playing well in a good side and even scoring goals!
Hope he stays involved with the club and comes back to work for us if he wants to in future.
Should have got a testimonial for 10 years top professional service!