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04 May 2021 10:02:48
Good morning ed002. Do Dortmund want to sign Musialowski? I'd hope we would prefer a loan or at least a buyback clause.

Would this be part of or separate to Sancho negotiations?


{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of any approach by Borussia Dortmund to Liverpool for the kid, who has only been at the club for 6 months. There had been prior interest of a different German club but they would have moved on. There are no "Sancho negotiations" between the clubs.}

1.) 04 May 2021 12:35:56
Only way Sancho happens is if Salah or Mane leaves and the thought of that is worrying. The goal contributions of those 2 over the last 4 seasons is very good and I don’t see Sancho scoring 20+ goals on the league. Anyone else have the same worries?

2.) 04 May 2021 13:00:44
I think given Mane’s age and dip over the last year it would be logical to move him on, but I can’t see us going for Sancho to replace him as Jota is already here, I suspect we’d be looking more at a forward to play in the middle.

3.) 04 May 2021 15:15:26
Neither Salah or Mane were as prolific before they played for us. Its Klopps team and system that allows players more opportunities. Im sure Sancho, if he came, would double his annual tally.

4.) 04 May 2021 16:04:51
IDreamofGini, actually Salah was prolific before he joined us, as was Mane (he got double figures two seasons running for Southampton) . In fact Salah was second only to Dybala in Serie A before he joined us.

5.) 04 May 2021 16:05:28
Sancho on the right to let Salah play central makes perfect sense to me, our best scorer is Salah so needs to be in the main position to finish, certainly if means Firmino is out the centre too.

6.) 04 May 2021 17:07:00
Salah, finish?! God love him but a finisher he isn't unfortunately.

7.) 04 May 2021 17:08:31
I don’t think Sancho gets 10 league goals never mind 20.

8.) 04 May 2021 17:16:30
Dybala has never been the highest scorer in Serie A and Salah was never second.
Salah's scored more goals in his first season at Liverpool than in two seasons at Roma.

9.) 04 May 2021 18:13:13
Just to throw in some facts on Mane and Salah before they joined us (this includes goals from all competitions) .

Mane got 25 goals in 75 games for Saints (0.33), for us he has 94 goals in 213 games (0.44) and before this season (when his goal return has been quite poor) he had 81 goals in 170 games (0.48).

Salah had 34 goals in 83 games in Serie A (Fiorentina on loan and then Roma) for a goals per game of 0.41 and for us he has 123 goals in 198 games for a goals per game of 0.62.

So, its quite clear that both Mane's and Salah's goal ration improved markedly at Liverpool compared with their previous clubs.

Whether that holds for Sancho or not is yet to be seen but, for those looking for positives, Sancho would be a lot younger (21) than Mane (24) or Salah (25) were when they joined us, so you could argue that with more Klopp coaching he may adjust to our system even better.

10.) 04 May 2021 21:21:56
Salah and mane both came to a team where their service dramatically improved. Sancho would not be coming to a team where he is getting substantially better service. Unless it would be part of a system change, he would be a gamble at best to replace the goals of salah or mane.

11.) 04 May 2021 22:38:20
Sadio averages 14 league goals a season over his 5 years with us. Would be fairly confident Sancho could match that. Salah on the other hand is unsellable.

12.) 05 May 2021 14:12:35
I feel that mane and firmino have to be sold to fund player arrivals. I think sancho would be a great signing. Personally for me, if we sell those two, as well as some of the fringe players, then we get a creative/ goalscoring midfielder, a proper out and out striker, and pacey wideman to replace mane. I would also say we need a CB but i don’t think we’ll have enough money, so will have to rely on those players coming back from injury next season.
My biggest concern regardless of who we sell or buy is being left behind by the top 4 clubs like city, utd, Chelsea etc, who are already rumoured to be looking at bringing in some top players.



10 Mar 2021 15:53:29
Can anyone confirm or deny that we have approached Leeds and Raphinha'a agent and that he and Deco will be meeting with the Leeds board later this month to discuss our interest.


{Ed002's Note - Raphinha (RW) Leeds are expecting offers in the summer and want Michael Olise or Emiliano Buendia to replace him should a significant offer be accepted. I am not aware of any approach or declaration of interest from Liverpool at this time but the suspicion is that Manchester United have discussed him whilst enquiring after another player with his agent.}

1.) 11 Mar 2021 16:20:16
I'd prefer Raphinha to Traore any day of the week. Same type of players, but Raphina knows how to find team mates and the net.

2.) 11 Mar 2021 23:28:57
absolutely ArAY, no question about it.

3.) 12 Mar 2021 13:23:38
100% agree ArAy.

4.) 12 Mar 2021 17:32:10
Raphinha will only come if Salah goes, which is unlikely. Same for Traore.
Have a gut feeling Mane will go in the summer for around 70-75 million euros. It's probably a LW we may be needing, not a RW.

5.) 13 Mar 2021 13:37:59
A lot if hype around Raphinha because he works hard and can pull off a trick or two. Yet he has 21 less goals than Salah, 8 less than Mane, 5 less than Jota and 2 less than Firmino. The same amount as Curtis Jones!

I'm not saying it's all about goals but they're pretty important. He's style over substance for me. At 24 he should have more end product. Hell even Jack Harrison is a better player if you ask me.

Rather give Harvey Elliott chances to back-up Salah than Raphinha.



01 Feb 2021 16:11:02
Hi eds,

Have we actually signed Kaide Gordon yet? If not, is it still likely to happen.


{Ed002's Note - No and Yes.}

1.) 01 Feb 2021 16:24:26
Thanks a lot.

2.) 01 Feb 2021 18:34:27
Probably a silly question but with him being a kid does he have to be signed by later tonight or can he be signed anytime?

{Ed002's Note - It is unrelated to the transfer window but there are a whole bunch of other rules the club must meet for him.}

3.) 01 Feb 2021 23:12:11
He has to be signed before his bedtime at 9pm.



31 Jan 2021 17:15:45
Ben Davies from Preston coming in, Sepp to go there on loan?

Anyone know anything about him.


{Ed002's Note - Blackburn and Preston have enquired after taking Sepp Van Den Berg on loan. As for Ben Davies, my notes say: (CB) Out of contract with Preston in the summer and unlikely to renew, his agents have been taking the opportunity to talk to clubs about a pre-contract agreement for January. There have been discussions with Rangers, Newcastle, Bournemouth and Celtic.}

1.) 31 Jan 2021 17:32:02
Jesus is he really at the level we need? Ben Davies from Preston.

2.) 31 Jan 2021 17:53:41
Maybe some people said the same about Robertson.

3.) 31 Jan 2021 17:35:37
Didn't Robertson play for a relegated side and Gez for Charlton?
Silly to judge a person just because they are from Preston.

4.) 31 Jan 2021 17:40:53
I’m from Preston and I can confirm he’s a very good championship defender, really good on ball, left sided which is an asset.
Before the C.V. and not with a contract running down he would have gone for £10m plus for sure.
Do I expect him to cement a place at Liverpool? I doubt it but if he gets a few games and does okay we could look to sell on at a tidy profit down the line.

5.) 31 Jan 2021 17:42:08
We did ok with a LB from Hull, D2D. If Edward’s and Klopp want him I’d trust them.

6.) 31 Jan 2021 17:34:58
I'm guessing they tried to focus on English players with no spaces for non Homegrown?

7.) 31 Jan 2021 17:50:51
Thanks ed002.

Just checked a few Preston sites. They rate him as a fine player; a hard tackling, ball playing CB. Not a bad outlay for the reported £2m. Aged 25 so experienced but chance to improve further. Alex Neil desperately wanted him to stay. Not a big name but certainly better than Mustafi or Long.

8.) 31 Jan 2021 18:25:52
I doubt most of us have seen him play. so atleast wait till you see him play before you slate him off. that being said let's support him when he puts on our beloved red! go Liverpool!



05 Jan 2021 23:11:29
Do we have any interest in Felix Uduokhai from Augsburg?


{Ed002's Note - Not that I am aware - he only joined them in the summer.}




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01 Feb 2021 15:05:42
Hearing Arsenal have just terminated Mustafi's contract allowing him to join Schalke. Anyone confirm?


1.) 01 Feb 2021 16:58:27
Relieved he’s not coming here.



17 Sep 2020 11:54:51
Is Sarr happening too?


1.) 17 Sep 2020 12:41:56
I think Watford will be desperate to move on some of their players since their relegation so any clubs looking to play the long game with them might end up getting their players for a better fee in the buyers eye as the closer to the window ending the more desperate Watford could become. The only risk is if someone nips in and beats you to the punch.



01 Aug 2018 01:31:49
I'm confused. City can have Sane, Sterling, Bernardo and Mahrez competing for 2 starting positions but any mention of Pulisic or similar means Salah is dramatically leaving. Very confused we're not allowed to have world class competition for places but City are.


{Ed002's Note - What has it got to do with Manchester City. What interest has Liverpool shown in Pulisic? Liverpool, already has Shaqiri and of course a number of scousers.}

1.) 01 Aug 2018 01:59:36
Itd be nice to bring a pulisic off the bench loke how real madrid brought bale off the bench. May come with complucations tho.

2.) 01 Aug 2018 06:51:36
Winning trophies helps keep players settled.

We’ve won one league cup in 12 years. 🤝.

3.) 01 Aug 2018 07:10:59
If you want that kind of depth, then we need to start winning trophies coz top players will not join a club that is not winning trophies on a regular basis unless they are guaranteed first team football.
Pulisic will want 1st team football on a regular basis. We cannot give him that right now.

4.) 01 Aug 2018 07:35:43
One, we don't have City's profile. Two, the players who are backups are not the quality that Pulisic is.

Any player of top quality coming to Liverpool would expect to be starting the majority of games, we can't offer a winger that unless they're replacing Mane or Salah.

5.) 01 Aug 2018 09:39:34
With you dude.

His point is "our liverpool interest in pulisic" the answer always seems to be sure when Salah leaves or we must sell someone.

Yet city can have bernardo, sterling, sane, mahrez, David Silva for 2 positions.

He'll he bought bernardo for 50 mil then mahrez for 60 mil whilst having 5p invested in sterling.

Why couldn't we possible have pulisic aswel as our players? Isn't that 1 way we would keep them by giving them a world class team.

6.) 01 Aug 2018 09:42:45
Stopped reading when you wrote "we don't have City's profile"

7.) 01 Aug 2018 10:36:12
Considering that David Silva is not a winger and that they are actively trying to ship Sterling off, seems like 3 player 2 spots. Almost like Salah, Mane, Powercube for example.

8.) 01 Aug 2018 15:22:42
Kloppsboss, we couldn’t possibly have Pulisic cos Liverpool have had zero interest in him - we have been explained this. So the whole arguement is irrelevant.



28 Jul 2018 00:26:57
Hi ed002, a couple of quick questions if you have the time:

Have LFC made an offer for a precontract for Pulisic for Summer 2019, similar to Keita?

Why is the window closing at 5pm on 9th rather than the 'traditional' 11pm?


{Ed002's Note - Liverpool have made no approach for Pulisic whatsoever. Why would you think they have?}

1.) 28 Jul 2018 00:58:12
Clubs voted for the earlier close!
Guess the 5pm is as it’s not the same everywhere else, there’s no need for a late finish, there’s gunna be no push for a foreign team to be up working until 11pm, when it’s not the last day for them.

2.) 28 Jul 2018 01:53:12
I been throwing the idea of a deal for pulisic similar to keita, more out of hope than anything! Have no idea if lfc are interested bug would love it if we are. A deal for 2019 or 2020 would be awesome. I'll ssve you time ed2 - perhaps we can do this deal in prep for salah sale to real madrid!

3.) 28 Jul 2018 09:16:30
Doesn't the fact that no one wants fekir for lyons price alarm fans? It does me.

The knee is a big problem and also, personally, I don't think he is worth 65million pounds. He isn't that big a player. Yet. He very well could be but he needs to play at a higher level for a couple of years, and be a success before he c as n demand that type of transfer fee.

I think 35/ 40 is reasonable and is around what liverpool wanted to pay.

I also think 433 suits us perfect, allowing salah, mane and firmino to play high up the pitch and I think we have the perfect midfielders for that style. Having fekir in their makes us more flimsy imo

I'd be glad for another good player to come to Liverpool but there are other ams out there I would prefer but even as it is we have a great team.

4.) 28 Jul 2018 09:44:17
Could also be that Fekir is not prepared to talk to another club, seeing that he's gone as far as doing an interview for LFCTV and promo photos?

Also, Klopp kind of sent a message in his interview on Sky that we could go for Fekir in January or next summer if necessary if we don't get him now - not that I think we will. It's probably now or never.

It's up to Lyon of course whether they want to sell at the price LFC is prepared to pay. But he's probably at his highest value now if they want to sell him to us.



18 Jul 2018 11:44:05
James Pearce and Melissa Reddy announce fee agreed with Roma - £66.8M.


1.) 18 Jul 2018 12:01:22
Useful to note that James Pearce did say that this doesn't stop someone else (Chelsea? ) from matching or bettering that bid.

It does put us in pole position, however, especially if we can get a medical done too as that would imply the negotiations are pretty much done.

For Kloppsboss, obviously this depends on him not having a dodgy ACL ;-)

2.) 18 Jul 2018 12:03:10
So excited hopefully it's not BS lad's.




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01 May 2021 16:21:15
Some people are calling Vlahovic the 'Serbian Ibrahimovic' but I think that's due to his height and build. I think he's got the look of Torres about him; fast despite his height, strong, excellent first touch and a natural finisher. He also presses well and has that handy knack of being in the right place at the right time.

His passing could be better but he's only 21 so has bags of room for improvement. In short I think he's the real deal and has had a great season at a frankly average Fiorentina. I'd say 40 mil is over par but if we were to sell Mane (obviously a big if) then I reckon we could buy Malen and Vlahovic, and for less combined than someone like Sancho!

After the likely sales of Shaq, Origi and Taki, that would leave us with 6 forwards in Salah, Bobby, Jota, Elliott, Malen and Vlahovic. Pretty decent.

Add to that Konate and Bissouma and I'd be quietly confident about 2021/ 22.




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30 Apr 2021 15:50:10
Hi ed0666, not heard too much about Malen but know he has played a bit on the wings. I really like the look of Vlahovic; do you think both of them could conceivably be bought?


{Ed0666's Note - seeing as they want circa 40 milIon for Vlahovic I doubt it mate. What’s you’re impression of Valohovic Kirkby?



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21 Apr 2021 19:13:25
It all links back to a 'reporter' called Leah Smith who doesn't even have a blue tick on twitter. It may be true but nothing from Reddy or Pearce so I'm unsure why this person would know before anyone else.




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01 Feb 2021 16:24:26
Thanks a lot.




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31 Jan 2021 17:50:51
Thanks ed002.

Just checked a few Preston sites. They rate him as a fine player; a hard tackling, ball playing CB. Not a bad outlay for the reported £2m. Aged 25 so experienced but chance to improve further. Alex Neil desperately wanted him to stay. Not a big name but certainly better than Mustafi or Long.





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28 Apr 2021 15:00:52
Ed002, do we have an interest in Dusan Vlahovic or is he the latest twitter bait?


{Ed002's Note - Dusan Vlahovic (S) Milan see the player as an Ibrahimovic back up and possible replacement - Spurs have the same view in respect of Kane - and Dortmund do in respect of Haaland. Roma and Atletico Madrid offer another option which would see him as a starter. Manchester City approached Fiorentina and were told that the aking price will be set above €50M which came a s a surprise.}



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28 Apr 2021 14:57:21
I think OP is pretty close with ins and outs apart from Saka. Talk of Sancho but the add ons would make me think of looking elsewhere. I really hope we sign Vlahovic, he would make a difference. If Tsimikas leaves then we'd need a backup LB.




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12 Apr 2021 21:27:15
Can't believe no one's mentioned Matt Busby. He was a mentor to Bob Paisley when he arrived and they stayed close friends throughtout their lives. Whilst he was only with us for 3 years because of the war, I think his impact on what followed can't be understated.




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12 Apr 2021 21:21:30
For me Matt Busby was our greatest captain; the way he mentored a certain young Geordie lad and led our team in difficult times. If it wasn't for WW2 he'd have been with us for longer than he was. I get incandescent with rage when so-called fans sing about Munich because it shows such ignorance on two levels.

However I'd agree that Henderson is up there, on and off the field he's an inspiration.


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13 Jul 2018 13:51:28
Quadruple ;)