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26 Mar 2019 12:44:36
Hi Ed's, not a rumour, or shall I say qualified rumour. Someone suggested to me we are looking at Memphis Depay after both VVD and Gini recommended him.
Say it ain't so?

The natural

{Ed002's Note - I have no idea whether the players recommended him but Liverpool has watched Lyon this season but I am not aware of interest in Depay.}

1.) 26 Mar 2019 14:28:16
Didn't we try and buy him before he went to United?

{Ed001's Note - yes.}

2.) 26 Mar 2019 14:39:27
He chose United because his father figure Louis Van Loss went there. By chance Ed's can you share who we were watching?

3.) 26 Mar 2019 13:55:32
Do you no or can you say who we might of been looking at Ed please or not?

{Ed002's Note - It will simply have been general scouting perhaps looking again at Felix. Lyon will not want to be screwed around by Liverpool again and Liverpool has no interest in any of their players.}

4.) 26 Mar 2019 14:24:16
Hola! would you know who it is Liverpool has been watching at Lyon Ed002? There are a few players there that could add quality to the squad IMO.

{Ed002's Note - I would not expect any Lyon players to be moving to Liverpool this summer.}

5.) 26 Mar 2019 17:40:52
Thanks as always Eds.

6.) 26 Mar 2019 19:13:20
Ed002, when you say it might have been Felix, you mean Liverpool had scouts at the Benfica - Lyon game back i august?

{Ed002's Note - it was autocorrect for Fekir. Felix is of no interest to Liverpool and won’t be moving to Liverpool.}



30 Jan 2019 11:58:07
Hi Ed's,

I see Christensen at Chelsea struggling for game time under Sarri. At 22 years of age and with his ability have we looked at enquiring about him?
He's quality in my opinion and would be perfect to fight with Gomez for the 2nd CB position alongside VVD.

The natural

{Ed001's Note - no.}

1.) 30 Jan 2019 12:58:31
I’d gladly take him as lovren’s replacement but highly doubt Chelsea would sell to us.

{Ed002's Note - Why would Chelsea not sell to Liverpool?}

2.) 30 Jan 2019 13:06:16
Didn’t Solanke and Sturridge come from Chelsea?

{Ed001's Note - yes.}

3.) 30 Jan 2019 13:12:05
True but one wanted a deal Chelsea wouldn’t give, and Sturridge was surplus. I see Christiansen higher up the pecking order than Sturridge was.

4.) 30 Jan 2019 14:54:53
That's Christensen who has made 1 Premier League appearance all season? In 12/ 13 Sturridge had made 7 before doing his hamstring.

5.) 30 Jan 2019 14:42:50
That’s a shame. Thanks Ed.

{Ed001's Note - welcome.}

6.) 30 Jan 2019 13:06:49
A fellow top four team Ed I just can’t see it.

Not saying we are interested as I think Klopp is happy with Lovren, and Lovren seems happy we’re he is. Are you saying Ed that Chelsea wouldn’t mind who he moved to, even a PL rival?

{Ed002's Note - Chelsea has no problems selling to other PL clubs - Cech to Arsenal, Mata to Manchester United etc. AC wants first team football so he would have to be a Gómez replacement.}

7.) 30 Jan 2019 18:36:19
He's good but not better than Gomez. So why would moving to Liverpool make any sense for the player?

8.) 01 Feb 2019 01:25:58
am i reading this right? people want to sign a players that sits on the bench in at team 14 points behind us?



28 Jul 2017 17:20:08
Hi Eds, what's happening with Cameron Branagan? Seems to have disappeared off the radar.

The natural

{Ed001's Note - likely to leave.}

1.) 28 Jul 2017 20:19:19
Cheers ed001.

2.) 31 Jul 2017 14:27:00
Was the big fuss about Branagan for a few weeks last season just a flash in the pan or has he got potential but just not progressing?



04 Jul 2017 16:00:04
Hi eds I've used the search function but hasn't been asked in a few weeks. Have we looked at or enquired about Wendell for Leverkusen yet?

The natural

{Ed002's Note - No, Liverpool has no interest in him.}

1.) 04 Jul 2017 18:05:27
Thankfully. The boy is abysmal defensively.

2.) 04 Jul 2017 19:46:23
Moreno mark II.

3.) 04 Jul 2017 17:17:10
Cheers ed002.



05 Jun 2017 11:09:44
Eds has any interest been shown in Origi? Personally I think we should send him out on loan if the option became available. Could become a fantastic player but he won't while he's on the bench for us.

The natural

{Ed025's Note - not as far as i am aware mate, i think you are over indulgent with your assessment of him though as for me he is mediocre..

1.) 05 Jun 2017 11:20:12
I have to agree with Ed025's assessment there. I found Origi to be really disappointing towards the end of last season. He's got great physical attributes but lacks intelligence, his movement off the ball is poor, I found when he gets the ball he takes too many touches and takes all the momentum out of our attacks.

2.) 05 Jun 2017 11:20:54
He is mediocre. I agree. Hence why I said "could" become a fantastic player. Which I think he could. He has the physical attributes but his game intelligence is quite poor.

{Ed025's Note - fair enough mate..

3.) 05 Jun 2017 11:24:41
I don't know, we've seen how loans are going for most of our players. I'd argue training at Liverpool and playing 25/ 30 games a season is better experience for him. If the coach who's loaned him decides he doesn't rate him 10 games in, he'll have a much worse time of it. Another coach has no investment in his development.

I'd argue the only time a loan is worthwhile is when the player is going to start every week, putting them into someone's squad to rotate with isn't any better than rotating with us.

4.) 05 Jun 2017 11:26:35
He is mediocre I agree. Hence why i said he "could" become a fantastic player. Has all the attributes to do so but lacks game intelligence right now. And that won't improve much from the bench.

{Ed025's Note - fair enough mate

5.) 05 Jun 2017 11:40:56
He is no mediocre. He is decent but not anything spectacular. He has got plenty of chances ahead of Sturridge and should have made his position his own by now. He could also end up like Wellbeck. If the club is after another striker that clearly means Klopp doesn't want to rely on him or any other striker to lead the line!

{Ed025's Note - yes decent= nothing spectacular= mediocre..

6.) 05 Jun 2017 11:59:33
Agree with the ed on this one, and I really don't see how a player labelled as "mediocre" can also have the potential of becoming a "fantastic player".

7.) 05 Jun 2017 12:11:02
I thought his goal against Everton was well taken with good movement, the poor lad has not really had a chance at Liverpool - when he has come in he usually has done well, he has proved to be a better LFC player than the likes of Cisse, Diouf, Morientes, Ngog and Keane - he is still only 22 and is a 1 in 3 goal conversion rate and probably happy to be part of the squad - we cannot have 25 superstars. If we keep Sturridge and get another forward we will players like Origi and Ings to be happy as squad players.

{Ed025's Note - you cant dine out for ever on scoring against everton though mate..

8.) 05 Jun 2017 12:35:28
Adam it's quite simple. As a player progresses he can go from poor, to mediocre, to good, to very good, to excellent. Right now Origi is mediocre. With improvements he will go to good and with a lot of improvements he could potentially be great.

{Ed025's Note - and then theres the silk purse and sows ear theory mate..

9.) 05 Jun 2017 12:47:46
He could be a good bench option but really don't see him being a really good, 20 a season (or thereabouts) level of player. He still needs to develop but equally it is misleading to say not given a chance, he has had a lot of game time but he isn't ready yet to be the main attacking option.

10.) 05 Jun 2017 12:48:44
Genuinely can't make up my mind if Origi is going to be brilliant or the next Carlton cole!

{Ed025's Note - he aspires to be carlton cole fencey.. :)

11.) 05 Jun 2017 12:49:35
Touché ed025 touché.

12.) 05 Jun 2017 14:08:42
Harry Kane was mediocre.




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03 May 2021 21:48:56
Hi Eds and all. Been a while. I've been wondering about the Ox the last few months. Seems to barely even come on as a sub these days never mind start. Is there any insight as to why? For a player who seemed to be really highly regarded by Klopp to be now not getting a look in I wonder if something has happened behind the scenes.

The natural

{Ed001's Note - not that I am aware of. Klopp only seems to want to use him in certain situations.}

1.) 04 May 2021 07:49:22
Ox and Keita both need to be sold. 240k a week down the drain for the club.
For the club to move forward, we can't have passengers earning big wages in our squad anymore. Either you are good enough to challenge for a first team spot every week, or you leave.
I'd rather pad the squad with some of our highly talented youth players like Musialowski, Balagizi, Elliot etc than pay the perennial squad players big wages for doing next to nothing.
Time for Klopp and Edwards to get ruthless.

2.) 04 May 2021 12:45:37
Can't shift players on because not in plans anymore
This is the problem of big wages / long contracts
Why would players leave if earning big money - to go to a club paying a lot less
Gone are the days where players care about sitting on a bench - they're paid regardless
most see football as a job rather than being lucky to play
With C.V. there are limited clubs willing to give the likes of money MU MC LFC Chelsea etc pay their squad players

3.) 04 May 2021 12:48:27
I suspect Ox is crocked and will break down if used regularly. Or at the very least, diminished so much by his injuries that he isn't at the level we need anymore.

It's a pity, because once he got going up until the first injury he got for us, it was looking like we'd absolutely robbed Arsenal at £40m.

4.) 04 May 2021 14:14:24
Something Red, it's all about opinions, AOC has never started more than 17 Premiership gamers in any of his 10 seasons and had only months left on his contract when we signed him. One of Edwards worst ever deals. 4.0m would have been a sensible fee.

5.) 04 May 2021 17:29:33
The other thing is that just because posters on here want rid of certain players it doesn't mean that Klopp and his staff do. Klopp sees what players bring to the table differently to us mere mortals.
Fans want dazzling skills, lots of assists, goals and fancy tricks. Klopp wants certain jobs done on the pitch, and that will (rightly) always come first. Gini Wijnaldum being a classic example. He sacrifices a lot of his attacking flair because Klopp has him doing other things that fans just aren't aware of. Instead they call him lazy, crap or disinterested.



05 Apr 2020 21:42:32
First post in a very long time. Hope all are well.
Question re Naby Keita. Do eds know if we are potentially looking to offload him this summer?
And, apologies for the random name but have we shown any interest in Fabian Ruiz?

The natural

{Ed002's Note - (a) Liverpool should do but I doubt it. (b) Liverpool has not made any approach for Ruiz.}



16 Jan 2019 13:42:18
You'd miss a good January rumour. Not a hint of anyone coming to Liverpool.

The natural

1.) 16 Jan 2019 17:39:47
The biggest rumour was when someone suggested Rondon.

2.) 16 Jan 2019 18:16:14
Hahaha yeah that Rondon rumour was a good one! No doubt there will be more rumours, everybody under the sun will be joining before the end of the month!

3.) 16 Jan 2019 18:25:41
LFC08, did you miss the NFL running back Adama Traore one?



19 Sep 2017 13:35:24
Here's the question on my mind. If as we presume Danny Ward starts tonight, and has an absolute blinder, does it even matter? If he plays 10/ 10 and gets man of the match will Klopp simply drop him for the next match anyway?

The natural

1.) 19 Sep 2017 13:58:40
I don't think ward is starting tonight natural. I think it's mignolet. Don't quote me on that but I read it somewhere. Klavan too.


TAA matip klavan Robertson.

I think ward should be given the shot or it is pointless not loaning him out.

2.) 19 Sep 2017 13:58:55
Sadly, i think Ward could command his box and make 15 clean catches, block 10 one on one chances, have 100% distribution accuracy, save 5 penalties in a shootout, and score the winning penalty; he'd still get dropped for Mignolet again for the weekend.

Obviously he won't do all the above 😂 but i just don't see him retaining his place no matter how well he plays.

3.) 19 Sep 2017 14:00:02
Unfortunately yes.

I love Klopp and will stand by him, but I disagree with him intensely with the Gk situation.

4.) 19 Sep 2017 14:04:16
Answers on a postcard.

5.) 19 Sep 2017 14:17:31
I agree lads. Klopp must have a plan though. Like ed says, migs is getting faded out and it's between karius and ward for the future. I can smell a clean sheet though tonight.

6.) 19 Sep 2017 14:59:37
Migs is playing against Leicester city on Saturday Superred. Stop buttering every Klopp's decision mate 😄😄.

7.) 19 Sep 2017 15:03:31
And if Ward doesn't play 10/ 10 and gets ripped to shreads by our "fans" like Karius after one bad game then what? We will have 3 keepers who don't have confidence, let Klopp fix it by slowly bringing him into the team, no quick fixes.

8.) 19 Sep 2017 15:10:10
I'm not wcd. going to call you wicked! If you read the posts I have questioned klopps decision about GKS. That said, he is not an idiot, he must have a plan.

9.) 19 Sep 2017 15:55:56
Well if Ward doesn't start tonight then it's an even worse course of events altogether.
Must be time for a chance for him. Has to be.

10.) 19 Sep 2017 16:03:48
My concern is if Ward doesn't get game time it is going to completely stall the huge progress he has made over the past few seasons and then what happens?

11.) 19 Sep 2017 17:13:51
Migs is being phased out gradually, IMO even tho I think Klopp has messed the GK situation up for not binning Migs earlier and sticking with that decision. Migs is a problem and as long as he is here, he will continue to be a problem due to the mistakes he makes in every game, whether they lead to goals or not.



20 Aug 2017 17:37:49
Hi Eds, Moussa Dembele of Spurs is in my eyes in the top three midfielders in the country. Extremely underrated.
Have we ever shown any interest in him? I am shocked that he never gets linked to top top clubs.

The natural

{Ed001's Note - no mate, another player I love we have never gone for. It seems if I like them we don't get them.}

1.) 20 Aug 2017 17:44:54
Was thars klopp for ya mate he reminds me of Benitez a bit smoke screen some times but I wish sometimes he would be back done really good.

2.) 20 Aug 2017 17:50:14
Moussa Dembele is great on the ball but also has a great work rate and doesn't mind putting his boot in, physically he's very rarely out done as well. Great player.

3.) 20 Aug 2017 17:53:57

4.) 20 Aug 2017 17:46:52
Ed1 you need to start hiding your admiration of good players and start loving all the rubbish so we stay away 😂
Or as it’s been said before, go kick Klopp out of his seat and take over 😄.

{Ed001's Note - I like your second idea personally..... Or they could just let me run the transfer committee.....}

5.) 20 Aug 2017 18:03:08
On a related note, how poor is Wanyama? Has to be one of the top 3 most overrated midfielders in the Prem.

6.) 20 Aug 2017 18:07:18
You would do a much better job than the current lot to be fair. Shall we start a petition to get you in? 😅.

{Ed001's Note - not sure that will have any effect. Be funny if it was one of those e-petitions and it got enough signatures to force them to have to debate it in Parliament though!}

7.) 20 Aug 2017 18:30:48
Now that would be hilarious but totally worth it 😂.

8.) 20 Aug 2017 22:11:27
I'm pretty sure Dembele was of interest when he left Fulham?




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10 Jun 2020 21:31:26
Great Post Northern. I love this roundup of absolute random names.

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28 May 2020 22:01:30
Eds can you explain again why or how we are not in a good place financially? I've scrolled but can't see or find where you covered this unless it was a whole back.
Really thought we would be very much in the green.

The natural

{Ed002's Note - I really don’t want to open this up again.}



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23 May 2020 09:55:53
I would much rather buy a winger/ wide forward as both Mane and Salah can play up front but not many can play in their positions in the current squad.
Not saying Sancho but someone of that ilk.

The natural



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12 Aug 2019 00:05:35
Personally think Shaq has a lot to offer if given the chance.

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18 Jun 2019 22:35:57
What's all this about his lifestyle?

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01 Jun 2020 13:32:33
Thank goodness. Massively overrated player.

The natural

{Ed001's Note - seriously? He is a wonderful player constricted by the way Simeone has Atleti play.}



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22 Apr 2019 19:00:04
Your manager used to make a meal for the away team? Random.

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19 Jan 2019 12:54:54
He was quality. Always thought he would’ve been fantastic in England.

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18 Jan 2019 13:44:58
Had all the attributes to be a world beater, except a brain.

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18 Jan 2019 09:24:21
Wilson needs to be given a shot and also take up one of our HG spots. He deserves it. What’s the point in putting a player out on loan, and him doing really well if we don’t give him a shot the following season.

The natural