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25 Mar 2020 23:05:09
Why have Liverpool and other Premier League teams lodged papers with the CAS in relation to Man City? What is it going to achieve?


1.) 26 Mar 2020 11:13:19
What have they exactly lodged, I don't understand what they are trying to do.

I would like to hope it's in support, but maybe the thought of being awarded a title for finishing runners up is too much to pass up.

I, as a fan, would not like this, retrospective titles are not for the fans, which is what football should all be about.

If city have cheated they should be punished by the regulatory authorities and not have clubs throwing their two cents in.

And let's face it, we have not exactly been squeaky clean recently have we, and didn't city actually help us out by not taking the matter any further.

Sometimes I do wonder what the idiots running this club are thinking!

2.) 26 Mar 2020 11:41:29
Must be idiots running a lot of clubs so Andy, if the stories of it being 8 of the top 10 teams are true.

3.) 26 Mar 2020 17:05:48
I think all they did was get together as a group and convey that they would object to City trying to get a "stay" of punishment while their case is heard, at least that's the way I read it.

4.) 26 Mar 2020 19:08:23
Expanding on taa001's comment, I believe they are specifically objecting to Man City competing in the 2020/ 21 Champions League if their appeal hasn't yet been heard and ruled on.

The only teams in the top 10 not objecting to this are City themselves (obvs! ) and Sheffield United, which is very gracious of them as they may benefit from City being barred.

5.) 27 Mar 2020 23:28:42
I know it's not liverpool but if the champions league gets cancelled next season due to the corona virus what will happen to citys ban (if it goes ahead) it's not thier fault there is no CL would the ban be two years regardless or two tournament's?

{Ed002's Note - They are appealing the ban and bans on tournaments are based in the next two seasons they qualify.




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28 Mar 2020 12:43:14
Just putting this season aside does anyone think we will see a 20/21 season? Personally I think it's going to be a long long time before we and other fans see their teams competing.


{Ed033's Note - It'll be interesting to see if Trump can get permission to allow U.S. Citizens out of lockdown this April like he said he was going to try and do.

1.) 28 Mar 2020 20:37:17
We are still on the ascendant part of the virus curve. It's still only increasing and becoming more lethal. How does Trump reverse that in two weeks, in time for Easter, and remove the lockdown? Pie in the sky.

2.) 28 Mar 2020 20:07:26
Ed33, like always, President 'nothing is ever my fault" has walked that back n by the way, he did not order a lockdown. The states Governors did. Therefore, Trump cannot reopen what he did not lock down and has no power to make the Governors do it either. He only sai that to make it look like he is in charge and actually doing stuff. He is not in charge of anything and is in-over he head on this COVD19 topic and he knows it. It's all a show and a game to him.

{Ed033's Note - I hope there's some kind of plan somewhere out of this lockdown.

3.) 29 Mar 2020 12:33:11
I have friends and fam in the States (lived there for 15 years) and we are looking to the Governors for leadership at this time. Forget what The Twittler says, His level of incompetents is the stuff of legends.



13 Mar 2020 03:15:01
It's starting too look like we won't be ending 30 years of pain. It's going to be a total mess. The only winners being the teams in the relegation zones. Whatever happens I want to wish Arteta a speedy recovery.


1.) 13 Mar 2020 06:53:51
I’d be amazed if they cancel it, just postpone it and finish it in the summer. There’s no point cutting this season short just to fit in the 20/ 21 season.

2.) 13 Mar 2020 07:15:41
If I was West Brom or Leeds I would be livid if it was just cancelled and then reset for August
It is likely that the Euros will be cancelled so there is the ability to push PL fixtures back

Whatever the PL does the EFL would have to follow suit on- would look ridiculous If one stopped and the other carried on

I get what others have said about player safety and isolation but look at it this way too - if I’m at home self isolating for 7 days all the rest of my work colleagues are still in work, working.

3.) 13 Mar 2020 08:46:09
Total panic, just suspend for a few weeks for God's sake.



19 Nov 2018 20:40:59
This international break is soooooo boring. Anyways I read a comment from a blue that Pickford is better than Allison and Kepa. What's people's opinions on that?


{Ed025's Note - not much between any of them for me rudder..

1.) 19 Nov 2018 21:17:05
All playing well at moment to be fair.

2.) 19 Nov 2018 22:13:13
Apparently Michael Keane is also better than Van Dijk!

3.) 19 Nov 2018 22:19:55
Not comparing like for like 👍.

4.) 19 Nov 2018 22:29:27
Pickford ain't better than Allison, IMO. Allison is the better GK. As for who is better btw Kepa and Allison? I'll have to see more of Kepa cos he seems never really tested, which is credit to the way Chelsea play as in, playing beautiful attacking footie w/ o leaving their defence and GK all that exposed.

{Ed025's Note - i cant work out how you feel that allison is better than pickford brover?, im not saying pickford is great but allison has done nothing to convince me that he is any better mate, been at fault for a few goals you have conceded and some very nervous episodes with his feet as well, red tinted me thinks..peace..

5.) 20 Nov 2018 03:15:02
You mean aside from conceding less goals, having more clean sheets than Pickford, and playing at a higher level due to him being in the Champions league of course. Claiming we're being red tinted?

{Ed025's Note - that says more about his team mates than him john, as an individual he has done no better than pickford or yes red tinted..

6.) 20 Nov 2018 07:53:31
Both very good keepers in my opinion.

7.) 20 Nov 2018 08:21:49
I think Pickford is positionally suspect. I really don't rate him at all.

{Ed001's Note - he is the return of Paddy Kenny.}

8.) 20 Nov 2018 09:47:50
I'd take Karius over Pickford. The only way I'd have Pickford at LFC is to replace Migs' butt print on our bench to play 2nd fiddle to Alisson.

9.) 20 Nov 2018 10:11:31
Ed01, I have been racking my brain for ages trying to think which ‘keeper Pickford reminds me of. You have nailed it - he is definitely the result of a one night stand between Paddy Kenny and a Sunderland barmaid.

{Ed001's Note - agreed, he has to be Kenny's love child.}

10.) 20 Nov 2018 10:38:35
I think Ed25 has took a leaf out of Walters book here and is trying to wind people up lol.

11.) 20 Nov 2018 12:47:01
Classic Ed01, apparently he is really good with his feet too. well if your benchmark for that is being able to kick the ball really far and to no one in particular!

{Ed001's Note - agreed, his kicking is awful and directionless. He is massively overrated because he is English.}

12.) 20 Nov 2018 13:44:17
'He is massively overrated because he is English. '

Ed1, boom, you hit the nail on the head there mate. He's on a different planet to Alisson and that's all there is to be said about it. I've never rated Pickford and going on what I've seen of him I doubt I ever will.

In the summer I was told on the Everton page that Pickford was an £80m keeper lol! I think he's alright for Everton but that's about it, if they want to progress further they need better but £80m I must admit it did make me laugh reading that lol.

13.) 20 Nov 2018 11:42:56
Ed025 I do like reading your post and views mate but please come on, Allison is no better than Pickford? We have comcceded just 5 goals in the prem with 7 clean sheets and have been playing the likes of Psg and Napoli in the CL on a higher platform. Allison distribution is better. Pickford always looks busy and aggresive but seems to let shots pasy him were he should save. In what wsy is Pickford better mate please on your opinion?

{Ed025's Note - i never said pickford was better KB i said they are at a similar level, becker has not exactly pulled up any trees imo and the fact that he has let in less goals than jordan is more about liverpools defence rather than him i feel, pickford is very well thought of in goalkeeping circles and is young and on an upward curve mate, he is also his country,s first choice keeper which cannot be said about allison currently but i dont know if that makes him better or not, in the end its all about opinions and i certainly wont be fretting if people dont agree with me..

14.) 20 Nov 2018 11:56:49
Ed you put Allison’s form down to his team mates but you don’t rate half of them anyway! So which is it? Or are you going to have to concede that our entire midfield would get in ahead of yours? :)

{Ed025's Note - i do rate your defence swish which is paramount to you not conceding many goals mate, VVD and gomes are excellent and i like robertson as well, TAA is still a bit green but is still very decent, whether you want to admit it or not the midfield is your achllies heel and until the likes of keita gets their act together it will be difficult to sustain a challenge, im not asking you to agree with me, just pointing out facts my friend..

15.) 20 Nov 2018 18:43:43
Ed25, What are you on about? Allison is first choice for Brazil ahead of Ederson (who is better than Pickford, IMO) and has been for 3 years now so you can't use that as a way to measure cos Pickford would not be first choice ahead of Ederson for Brazil but Allison would be first choice ahead of Pickford for England as there is a dearth of competition for his place, I feel.

Allison is the better GK, IMO. You think Pickford is similar in quality and that is your opinion as well so there is nothing blue-tinted about that. He has made arguably 2 errors that led to goals but forget to mention the saves he has made that kept us in several games this season.

You also forget to mention that Pickford has been in the PL for 3 seasons while Allison has been in goal at LFC for 5 months so of course, he is still adapting to the PL and mistakes may happen. Pickford as Ed01 said, is overrated and has no one really to challenge him for England. Heaton? Pope? Hart? Don't make me laugh, man. Allison on the other hand, knows he has to be on his game every week cos Ederson is breathing down his neck. As a result, there is NO way they are similar in quality in any way, IMO. Love ya to death, bro but I ain't buying your argument.

{Ed025's Note - i have said before oli that pickford is a bit green but he is young and is very well regarded by his peers, allison is decent enough and definitely an upgrade on the shower of crap you had previously mate and maybe your comparing him to them, imo we both have a decent keeper and there is little between them but like your fellow supporters you find it hard to give an everton player credit and think the sun shines out of every liverpool players arse, i obviously cant change opinions and would never want sure lots of people enjoy living in bubbles..

16.) 20 Nov 2018 20:05:37
I think Allison is still adjusting to the prem and has had a few dodgy moments. He is a big influence in that back line along with VVD. His distribution is first class and he is a commanding presence.
Ed025 is correct about our midfield too. There are no goals and limited creativity and attacking threat. I hope Keita can help improve us soon along with Shaqiri.
We cannot go a whole season expecting the front 3 only to get goals, other players need to contribute or we will come up short against Man City.

{Ed025's Note - spot on greenflash..

17.) 20 Nov 2018 22:32:33
Ed25, it is not about me thinking the sun shines about every LFC player's arse or don't give any Everton player any credit. On the contrary, I think some of your players are pretty good. I saw BRover post a while back about how good your lot played vs Chelsea and I agreed with his assessment.

I watched the game as well and Pickford, Bernard, Lookman and Mina had a good game and the overall perf. deserved a point by the team as a whole (Walcott is pants, btw) so you accusing me of being in a bubble cos I disagree with you or don't give any of your players credit (which just I did) is quite sad, really cos I never attacked you for giving your opinion.

As for Allison, I am not comparing him to Karius or Migs. He is light years ahead of them clearly so why would I compare him to them? I compared him to Pickford specifically (as that was the topic) and made valid points to support my opinion that they are in NO way similar in quality. Cheers, man.

{Ed025's Note - im not including everyone in that brover, some like yourself are fair and give credit where its due but some just cant say a good word about everton mate and i find that a bit sad, i try to be fair but with just a tinge of bias as is my want but have been complimentary to liverpool on the whole...and they call us bitter?..peace..

18.) 21 Nov 2018 07:38:50
BRover you just said 'I saw BRover post a while back about how good your lot played vs Chelsea and I agreed with his assessment. ' do you have another account mate lol?

19.) 21 Nov 2018 09:20:57
Spot on Salah, BRover saw a post by Brover and agreed with it.



06 Nov 2018 16:56:16
Nearly a week to go until Fulham and Klopp puts out Matip and Sturridge. He's getting in my nerves lately.


1.) 06 Nov 2018 17:12:20
You do realise that we also played 4 days ago?

2.) 06 Nov 2018 17:29:20
Matip doesn't get me excited but I am happy to see Sturridge. Firmino has looked exhausted and hasn't been effective.

3.) 06 Nov 2018 17:29:20
Why? Because he isn’t picking your favourite players?

4.) 06 Nov 2018 17:35:07
Yes, let's not rotate and wonder why the team are knackered in February.

If Matip, Lallana and Sturridge can't come in and perform today then they have no role in the squad.

5.) 06 Nov 2018 18:04:02
That’s what we have a squad for. Unless, of course, you would prefer these players to be completely short of any match fitness when they are inevitably needed later on in the season. It’s not like we’re playing PSG or Napoli tonight.

6.) 06 Nov 2018 18:49:36
Just as well were not playing psg or napoli on that 1st half performance shambolic.

7.) 06 Nov 2018 19:03:03
Or is it just klopps obsession of bringing on a defender really late on nearly every match.

8.) 06 Nov 2018 19:25:51
What has changed this season? We look so poor going forward. Lallana should be nowhere near the first team. awful.

9.) 06 Nov 2018 20:13:43
Were we knackered last year at any point when we were playing same amount of games in the same amount of competition with a slightly weaker team?
Were we knackered Especially in February?

This is becoming farsical - you do not change a winning mentality or a winning team.
Klopp killed the team and possinly the season by playing a weakening team in the carabo cup, the result of which has impacted the momentum and confidence.

We may just about scrape through the CL group stage and I can not see us progressing beyond that.
This season we have been very been terrible and it is nothing to do with bwing tired from the World Cup as City have also proved that with having more players (than us) involved at the world cup.

10.) 06 Nov 2018 20:20:59
not even getting the basics right, and why bring Mane over to the right hand side, when he can't seem to get going at all, even running the ball out of play himself .
we will try and get 2nd place,
same as the Prem .

11.) 06 Nov 2018 20:26:03
Matip also, not a 1st team player, Klopp can't seem to get them sorted, way too many errors,
best team won, they did play the dark arts at times, but nothing went right tonight, just hope we snap out of this on Sunday .

12.) 06 Nov 2018 21:28:41
Red Kurd, you have to rotate in this day and age and that is a fact. If you want us to go far in any of the comps. that we are in, you have to use the squad at your disposal esp. with the PL not having a winter break. This is not rocket science and I'm sure you are aware of this BUT you just seem to want to have a moan for no apparent reason. So we should play these starters in EVERY game and then when they are knackered (cos they will), what would you say then. The rest of your post just sounds like a whind up, full of OTT negativity.

13.) 06 Nov 2018 21:56:26
BRover; I always look forward to your comments on here and I tend to find myself agreeing with you on most occassions but I can not agree with you on this;

it is not a moan but an observarion and more than a valid one.
Not sure if your read my comments in detail and picked up my main point about how were we playing last year without this crazy rotation for important games.
This season we are also supposidly have a stonger team - so what happened there?

It is not crazy to suggest the same set of players play 2 games a week which is what most teams do in the EPL if they are competing on any front.

You can not play Adam Lalana or Sturidge because they are both more than past it and so far up their own ego that they they think their mere presence a pitch is going to steam roll other teams.

Both of these 2 players are long time inury hit/ prone players and not fit for such decisive games.

You can not have them. on in to a decisive game and expect them to fit in instantly when they have not played enough to be able to achieve that.

There is optimisim and then there is deluision.

To not beat this team tonight is criminal.

Klopps substitutions and game management has always been beyond awful this game just reinforces that.
Klopp does not learn from his mistakes.
He is an excellent coach but I am sorry to say he is nowhere near a manager or a tactician.
70% posession and a 2 goal loss to show for it is nit great tactic.

We habe been very lucky in a number of games this season and I worry that it will not improve much but instead get a little worse.

14.) 07 Nov 2018 00:00:57
Sorry Red Kurd, I’m with BRover.

Last season what happened in April/ May?

Ox got injured and the team ran out of steam in the CL final. We peaked too early and were shot when the medals are given out.

Klopp is playing the long game, keep pace and peak in Spring.

15.) 07 Nov 2018 01:17:14
Hi Ron

I disagree with you.

Injuries happen all the time - look at City with Mendy last year.

We did not peak too early.
Klopp is not a master tactician that is why we lost the CL fianl.
From the moment you know your facing Madrud or Barcelona then from there you use the media to highlight the fact that refrees are extremely leniant to them and you highlight the fact that Ramos is a very sly and dirty player.
Bring the focus on these 2 points and keep talking about it in the build up and both Ramos and the ref get scared not ro act as theu should.
This is the nature of modern global football Ron.

Also in the CL final - you do not put Caan and Lalana on when they had hardly any game time and no sharpness.
Insread you put Solonke on and tell him to bully Ramos and have a real phyisical go at him and Solonke can do that and then you have different game.

These prove that Klopp is not a tactician and is absoloutly clueless on substitutions.

{Ed001's Note - Solanke is not physically capable of bullying a defender at first team level. He did it at youth level, but he is not big, strong and powerful enough to do it in the first team, which is why he has struggled so badly.}

16.) 07 Nov 2018 02:37:19
Not much point in resting players if all you have in Spring is a battle to qualify for the Europa. Play our best eleven in the Prem league and CL. The time to rest players is during the minor cups and once we assured of qualifying in our CL group.



05 Nov 2018 13:16:06
With the little bit of controversy over the wearing of poppies the weekend. I don't recall seeing them on Liverpool or Arsenal shirts. Is it up to each club?


{Ed002's Note - Clubs and players make their own choice - next weekend you will see what the choice is.}

1.) 05 Nov 2018 13:40:27
Cheers Ed.

2.) 05 Nov 2018 14:00:04
There shouldn’t be any controversy over it.
It’s a sign of remembrance and whether you choose to wear it or not is personal choice. 👍.

3.) 05 Nov 2018 15:47:05
Going to have to disagree with you there Ron mate. It’s a British tradition, players are living in Britain, being paid by British clubs. Outside of the football, absolutely your own choice I agree.
I remember clattenburgh stopping a game in the Middle East half way through for prayers. It’s about respecting where you are in the world, I feel. Hope you’re well anyway 🤙🏼.

4.) 05 Nov 2018 17:09:35
Benny Baller, I can’t agree with you. The wearing of a poppy in a lapel or on a football shirt is surely a matter of personal conscience and personal choice. We should respect the decision of those who choose to wear a poppy and those who choose not to.

5.) 05 Nov 2018 17:29:00
To me it should be mandatory out of respect, no matter what. But I understand other points as well. It's one of them.

6.) 05 Nov 2018 18:07:31
I don’t need you to agree Wirral 🤙🏼 They play football in this country, that our forefathers built and protected. They can only play in this country because of those who died and fought for it. An that’s why they should wear the poppy and remember all those who died fighting, on both sides. Innocent men who were used like pawns by their establishments.

{Ed001's Note - but those men fought and died so people have the choice to wear it or not. It was against dictatorship they fought.}

7.) 05 Nov 2018 18:17:54
I respect people's choice to do what they want regarding wearing poppies or not. What I don't have respect for is someone to give his understandable view why he doesn't wear a poppy then quote a man who was in a terrorist organisation that murdered hundreds of people over 40 years. Total idiot!

8.) 05 Nov 2018 18:41:17
Think I agree with Wirral but understand Benny’s point of view.
It’s about remembrance and this feels like “forced remembrance”.
What I’d like to see is for all the players to donate 10% of this week’s wage to the British legion. That will do a lot more than getting a poppy sewn into your football shirt and for me is the least they could do to remember our heroes and heroines.

{Ed0333's Note - One of the wonderful things about the UK is that it’s a secular society which is a beautiful thing. It is our democratic right to practice and observe whatever we choose to do so or not to do so. We have a multicultural society, a melting pot if you will and if members of the public don’t affiliate with a poppy then why force your views on someone. Benny Baller alluded to Clattenburgh stopping a match midway in Saudi Arabia for Adhan (call to prayer) it’s normal practice for that to happen across Saudi Arabia in malls, gas stations, restaurants, cafes, hospitals et al this is for religious reasons and is state law and not a choice like wearing a poppy. Here’s another view on the subject

9.) 06 Nov 2018 10:03:18
You took words right out of my mouth ed001, we'll said. The heroes who laid down their life did so for everyone to have the freedom to choose and not be dictated to, you seem to be totally missing the point benny.

10.) 06 Nov 2018 10:06:25
The English celebrate these people who died in war but they don't realise the cruelty and horror they caused in the rest of the world when they plundered resources and destroyed lives. Not something to celebrate actually.

11.) 06 Nov 2018 10:29:39
As with all acts of remembrance or ‘respect’, if every single person is forced to wear the Poppy it ceases to have any meaning at all, people have many reasons why they may choose not to wear it and that is okay. If you listen to Matic’s story and why he won’t wear it this year then the difference between our world and the world that others have had to grow up and live in, you can see why peoples perspectives can differ.

12.) 06 Nov 2018 22:22:05
Mane10 I’m afraid you are incorrect.

“Remembrance” is no celebration it’s a somber reflection on the horrors of war.
Remembrance makes no judgement on right or wrong.
It is also not just about “England” and to make that mistake totally neglects then hundreds of thousands of non-English heroes who laid their life on the line in war.
We should never forget what happened and the lives it ended and ruined. We should always respect people’s right to freedom 👍.




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29 Jul 2018 11:46:47
Look a Ed01's review about Fabinho. If I remember correctly he spoke about his speed. That he is deceptively fast and glides along the ground or words to that effect.




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18 Jul 2018 03:14:21
Its not happening. Another false dawn.





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31 Mar 2020 11:23:38
I'd take it with a pinch of salt. They reported it was going to be null and void. I'll wait until Friday I think it is to get any updates straight from the horses mouth.




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06 Mar 2020 16:22:30
Was it not his cousin?




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01 Mar 2020 06:42:39
Taking the high road. You are a disgrace. Lovern and TAA should never wear the Liverpool shirt again.




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21 Feb 2020 08:59:15
A troll, username Yawn?




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19 Feb 2020 13:51:45
That's classy Yawn, dedicating your name to Ole's style of football.