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Best team moment: Champions League semi final 2005

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17 Apr 2020 18:08:32
Ed02, when this nightmare is over, life will never be the same again, and all businesses will look at how things are run. One of these will be, in my opinion, unnecessary travel. Do you think clubs will look at flying all around the world, pre-season, to far flung places just to earn a fat buck. This, I'm sure, is one of a multitude of things that will need looking at. Just interested in your view on things. Cheers.

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{Ed002's Note - International travel has been, from a business perspective, something of a matter of cost savings for many years and many businesses try and curtail it. Some business understand they are working in a global market place and carry on as though there is no big deal about it. I fly a lot, I suspect well beyond what many of the people here can comprehend, and that will never recede. I have a PA who does most things for me to make my life tolerable, but right now she is seeing the lockdown out in Israel for me rather than working from her home just outside of Windsor. Clubs will be looking to continue as before and I cannot see any that will be looking to cut team travel at all. Clubs will continue to play internationally and whilst it may well take a year or more to start getting fully back to normal, FIFA and UEFA will continue to look to themselves and not consider others. UEFAs recent threats led to the "elite" sites having a WebEx on Wednesday - without UEFA present.

Football needs to decide what sort of restructuring is required. Putting aside any "breakaway" or counter proposal, my fears have always been the vast number of professional clubs there are in England well below the Premier League. I hold a reasonably strong view in terms of the need to restructure football in Europe in any case. Previously I have said that the eventual "breakaway pan-European league" would force the restructuring of many of the national leagues, possibly resulting in a British league with perhaps only a couple of professional tiers and then regionalised amateur leagues below that. Now we have a situation that will change the financial paradigm and may make clubs and authorities look at the situation with lower tier sides regardless.

Financially I do not see that so many pro sides can be sustained within the sport which, like it or not, will see more and more money going in to the highest levels of the game. Governments will ensure that grassroots sport get funding but everything in the middle (Southern, Northern, Conference, Division 2, Scottish Divisions 1-3, League of Wales will not get the funding needed to continue on any sort of professional basis. For me, clubs should already recognise this and put their efforts in to getting their finances in order to see if they can make it to a British professional league that will need to flourish without perhaps six sides that have eventually gone down the pan-European route - and have gone for good (it would be two or perhaps three initially) or even separation from the Premier League and Championship.

Clubs like Accrington Stanley will need to carry on as amateurs or face extinction (yet again) like Bury. Recently Hartlepool has been struggling - again it needs to adapt. The mighty Third Lanark have started their long journey back to the top - it can be done. These are all proud clubs with a history.

The game has changed significantly and will continue to do so whether the supporters of certain clubs like it or not. Football at the highest level is big business and attracts the sponsorship it does because the sponsors wish to tap in to the disposable income of the fans and ride the back of the advertising that flows naturally from the success some clubs achieve. Long gone are the days of the cloth-capped, hobnailed-booted, chimney sweep making his way, rattle in hand, to cheer on his team at Anfield on a Saturday afternoon. I have explained that there will be changes, probably within the next 8 to 10 years, which will force the restructuring of all of the leagues in Europe and likely do away with the likes of UEFA. You will have the opportunity to see the likes of Real Madrid, Bayern Munich, Juventus and the other major European sides play in week-on-week regular competition at The Emirates, St James Park, Stamford Bridge or wherever. Fans of the sides who take the plunge will have the opportunity to visit cities such as Milan, Barcelona, Munich, etc. every couple of weeks to watch their team play. If you want to don your cloth cap, have a pint of wallop with your chums before going off to the local match through the grim, wet and cobbled streets of the Northwest of England where there is smog, dead & dying pit ponies laying on the street and only chips and fried curry to eat., perhaps one of the sides from the suburbs will have survived so the Liverpool and Everton supporters can go and watch them?

This will be a case of getting with the game. I will try to referred to this as the "Post Apocalyptic Zombie Scenario" from now on.}

1.) 17 Apr 2020 19:51:02
Many thanks for your brilliant reply, Ed02. Much appreciated.

With regards to my point on travel. Shouldn't clubs be factoring in their carbon footprint, moving forward? Or don't they care?

{Ed002's Note - Most don’t care - basketball team in the States pay the offset. Not sure many others do.}

2.) 17 Apr 2020 20:42:57

What’s your profession that requires the extensive travel.

{Ed002's Note - Gentleman adventurer and retired rodeo clown.}

3.) 17 Apr 2020 21:16:52
Ed02, with regards to your life as a "gentleman traveller" do you not care about your own carbon footprint? Countless people are saying during this lockdown that technology, nowadays, shouldn't necessitate circumnavigating the globe when one can just sit in front of a laptop to tell someone to sack Brenda in accounts.

{Ed002's Note - I “appreciate” the damage I am doing and depending on who books my travel the offset is paid - probably more often than not. I do what I can from my office by spent 226 days in hotels last year.}

4.) 18 Apr 2020 09:20:01
Rome for air travel the only people that can make a difference are the airlines by offering less flights.

If Ed002 didn’t fly last year all those flights would still be taking off unless he has a private jet.

5.) 18 Apr 2020 09:54:19
WYred, if there was less demand for flights, airline companies wouldn't fly empty planes.

6.) 18 Apr 2020 13:44:18
Some airlines are upping their game in terms of carbon offsetting projects. Work is being done to develop electric planes but batteries are a way off being sophisticated enough yet.

Demand for flights will never go away.

7.) 18 Apr 2020 14:49:58
Never say never. The world is changing Shaq.

8.) 18 Apr 2020 16:13:08
Question for ed2 please in the event of a pan European break away league and the beginning of a british league, do you think teams from the Republic of Ireland (although not British) might be included in this league? The appetite for British football over here might make it financially advantageous for such a league? Thanks in advance really appreciate your input and knowledge on this site.

{Ed002's Note - Firstly, I think that it is great that the League of Ireland allows clubs from Northern Ireland in, but I think they may well need to integrated further to make it viable - but certainly the matter has been raised in the past, as has integration with Scotland. But unfortunately the politics of the situation could potentially get in the way.

Already we see such stupidity as the Olympic Game where a "Great Britain Olympic football team" represents the UK rather than just Great Britain - and at one point there was a discussion that it should not be allowed at all as there was no GB or UK league.

When eventually the leagues in Great Britain need to reorganise, they should (in my view) include the whole of Ireland howevermuch a bold move it is. The problem will likely be the inability of Northern Ireland and Republic of Ireland politicians. But I would like to see it happen.}

9.) 18 Apr 2020 19:29:08
To ask what seems to me the obvious question. Are Liverpool 1 of the 6 looking to go into a pan European league?

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool are not included in the group of 21 “elite” European sides.}

10.) 18 Apr 2020 16:59:56
Thank you so much for your reply and I totally agree with you that it would be politics that's gets in the way but I feel it would add such a different dinamic to a said league people from across all borders would be behind it! Thanks again.

{Ed002's Note - So would I.}

11.) 19 Apr 2020 12:19:03
The concept of a breakaway league has always upset me, regardless of whether Liverpool were to be involved or not. This period without football though should, I think, act as some small warning to those still looking to wring every last penny from the game. Perspective and time away from the game has made me and a few others that I know of reflect on the fact that I don’t quite miss the game as much as I thought I would, and when football eventually resumes it will presumably not be in front of packed stadiums - and I hope that that will emphasise the importance of the fans.
I don’t mean to sound like a Luddite, but ‘progress’ isn’t always a good thing.

12.) 19 Apr 2020 16:43:12
I'm more interested in how you get into the "elite" gang? Invite only? Yearly subscription fee? Recent trophy haul? How rich your owner is? Maybe if we actually knew who these "elite" clubs were we could draw our own conclusions?

13.) 19 Apr 2020 19:18:22
Derry playing in the League of Ireland isn't so great when you factor in that they were forced out of the Northern Irish league in the 70s for what are best described as 'political reasons'.

There is a bit of a push starting in the Republic to have an All-Ireland league, but honestly I don't think the money works. Especially for clubs in the North who'd have much greater travel costs and based on results in Europe and the various attempts at an all-Ireland cup competition in the past few seasons, most of them wouldn't last in the top division with clubs from the Republic to compete with. Not sure it'd do the likes of Wexford and Galway any favours to be going up to Belfast and Ballymena a few times a season either. The IFA are wholly uninterested. Now if it was bundled as a product with a decent TV deal (from who I have no idea. I've seen Asian markets suggested, but they're hardly that bothered with semi-pros they've never heard of? ) that could fork out a decent wedge of prize money, it'd be different. Certainly the League of Ireland needs something anyway.

Hadn't thought about Ireland as part of a pan-British Isles league. Not sure how well it'd work. In terms of structure, facilities, finances etc. surely most Irish clubs are behind current League Two sides in the UK and there'd need to be a lot of money involved to bridge the gap. It might work out for some clubs after some short term pain.

{Ed002's Note - I am not sure how far behind they would be - particularly when you take account of the Scottish clubs.}




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23 Apr 2020 10:23:02
Ed02, with the Chief Medical Officer announcing yesterday that social distancing would be in place for the rest of this year, and therefore no likelihood of football, certainly in front of a watching crowd, do you foresee any transfer activity taking place? I don't see the point myself. Many thanks.

Rome 1977

{Ed002's Note - The transfer window will be delayed whilst their is hope of the season completing - that is in the remit of The FA.}



24 Mar 2020 10:03:14
It's been said on here already, but hat's off to Gary Neville for what he's doing for health workers. Top man. I also think he's the best pundit out there, but that's a side issue.
It's his opinion when the World rights itself, regarding the football issue, that the season should be completed, across all competitions. The bloke just keeps going up more in my estimation.

Rome 1977

1.) 25 Mar 2020 05:44:15
I hated him as a player but he seems like a decent human being.



22 Mar 2020 19:28:27
Am I still barred from posting, I promise to be good, so long as Ed02 refrains from...

Rome 1977

{Ed033's Note - This is a site for talking about Liverpool FC and football, not for talking about Ed002.

I've just created 2 new web sites. 1. talking about Mental Health and 2. A Books Review site that AOE will be posting on.

If people want alternative info about Coronavirus they can visit our conspiracy web site where the latest video is entitled, "Viruses don't spread person to person", because germ theory is incorrect.

1.) 22 Mar 2020 19:44:44
Good one. Thanks. I'm more than happy not to talk about him, Ed033.

{Ed033's Note - Ok thanks.



06 May 2019 21:45:18
Iheanacho. .

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1.) 06 May 2019 21:51:07
Never going to score.

2.) 06 May 2019 21:52:24
Iheanacho Evans and schmeichel definitely a Manc conspiracy.

3.) 06 May 2019 21:56:18
The same Schmeichel that pulled off a total worldy in the first half?

4.) 06 May 2019 21:57:53
It was a terrible attempt by Iheanacho and Kompany will never hit a shot like that again in his life.

5.) 06 May 2019 22:00:03
This is heartbreaking! I will keep going to the final whistle but it hurts. No fan outside our club want us to win the league and Kompany scoring that wonder strike makes me think it ain’t our year.

{Ed025's Note - i do..

6.) 06 May 2019 22:08:43
To be fair from 50 mins it was clear city were going to score, and wow what a way to do it.

7.) 06 May 2019 22:22:14
Who cares if others want us to win, fact is we have been beaten by the better team to the title.
We may finish on 97,95 or 94 but whatever points total we get is just an insane season. Unfortunately city are a machine, they have dropped two points (if they win on Sunday) in the second half of the season. Sometimes you just have to accept the opponent was marginally better and deserves the title.
I want to believe but city should steamroll Brighton, my worse case scenario is they win 1-0 and score late on.

{Ed025's Note - great attitude mate..

8.) 06 May 2019 22:26:15
Well said WYRed.

9.) 06 May 2019 22:32:08
Truth is that we lost it. The games against West Ham and Leicester did it. We bottled it. Shows that we really should have signed a midfielder who has guile to get through locked defences. Unless there’s a miracle tomorrow, there will be no silverware.

{Ed025's Note - you could not have done much more FMS, this is one off season and to suffer possibly only 1 defeat in a whole season and not lift the trophy is freakish mate..

10.) 06 May 2019 22:39:15
Ed025 as you say a freakish season. We have the core already at the club just need 2/ 3 players to improve us and next season could be even better.

{Ed025's Note - still in the league title with 1 game to go and CL semi final makes it an excellent season barry, 99% of clubs in europe would bite your arm off for that should be very proud..

11.) 06 May 2019 22:48:46
Totally agree with WYRed, if City win it then fair play to them.
They’re great to watch but I admire their work rate and how quickly they win back possession.
We couldn’t really do much more than we’ve done, but City have been a tad better.

12.) 06 May 2019 22:53:15
He put that wide on purpose. He could of disguised it better.

13.) 06 May 2019 22:54:32
I think city get 90+ next season as well and we may be entering into an era of complete dominance. We have been unreal this season it’s just for my money we have come up against the best team the premier league has ever seen.

{Ed025's Note - i agree den..

14.) 06 May 2019 22:55:38
I certainly am Ed and I can tell that ALL the Liverpool fans from my neck of the woods are are very proud mate.

{Ed025's Note - and well they should be barry mate...they have given everything and thats all we supporters can ask from our players..

15.) 06 May 2019 23:04:11
Sorry Ed025, we did bottle it. Whatever way you look at it, losing a 10 point lead and losing by one point is bottling it.

{Ed025's Note - i disagree FMS, look at the stats, liverpool have lost 1 game this season in the most competitive league in the world, thats not bottling it for me mate.. its just one of them freakish things that will probably never happen again..

16.) 06 May 2019 23:06:20
A mad season, what can you say seems like a typical liverpool one over the last 12 years so close yet so far but we move on and keep living each game as it comes regardless of what's on the line

In terms of it being the Leicester and west ham results that cost us, for me it was always that United game simply because it was clear we were happy to go for the draw despite their injuries and the fact that this meant it officially was out of our hands if city won all their games which it seems they will. So a bit of a mistake there perhaps but other then that I don't really think you can fault the lads this season

Oh and maybe when we played city, we got back to 1-1 and kept going hell for leather allowing them to catch us out, that was the game to accept a, draw not the United game I feel.

17.) 06 May 2019 23:06:46
{Ed025's Note - i do.
For those Liverpool fans complaining that fans of all other clubs are against us should take note ; the great ed25 is believing in us and he is an Everton fan no less . I thank you sir . must admit you have more faith than me that Liverpool will do it next week . for me that ship have sailed when untied bent down well and proper for City.

{Ed025's Note - if huddersfield can hold united then what hope did united have against city roy?, they are an excellent team and so are liverpool and its a shame that one of them will miss out...its just the way the cookie crumbles mate..

18.) 06 May 2019 23:13:50
Spot on Ed👍.

19.) 06 May 2019 23:21:25
{Ed025's Note - if huddersfield can hold united then what hope did united
You are absolutely right, at the time I was hoping they (united) will put up a fight being at home to one of their main rivals . but yes City is a class apart . Kompany's goal tonight as much as I hated it going in, could n't help but admire a captain taking control and giving his team the results they need a Gerrard like moment .

{Ed025's Note - united are a poor team roy so i pinned no hopes on them getting anything against city mate, burnley and leicester gave them far harder games..

20.) 06 May 2019 23:26:06
I said it at the time and it has turned out to be true. The ref bottling sending Kompany off in our game at the Emptyhad has decided the title. You can say that they even themselves out but in a game of that magnitude they have to be right and how hasn’t gone for that I will never know.
Both teams have been great but the title has been decided by a very poor refereeing decision.

{Ed025's Note - leave it out BP, were you questioning the refs decision to not give the pen and send trent off on saturday? or his decision to give a free kick which liverpool scored their winner from?, mistakes happen and interpretations of incidents will vary from game to game mate, no 1 specific incident will ever decide a the way morrisons are doing sour grapes for £1-50 a kilo if your interested..

21.) 06 May 2019 23:29:48
We’ve done our but and will continue to do so, we’ve had our chances we’ve had a great season, a bit u lucky with injuries in the end but let’s be honest nobody has tried to lose tonight it was a great effort by the foxes. Still one more game have faith.

22.) 07 May 2019 00:15:52
Can we give the bottling talk a rest please? We had a temporary dip in form which is expected for any team in a season! We’re on course to end up with 97 points, how is that bottling?!

Yes we dropped points but who’s to say if we had won one or two of those games, that we would have gone on the winning run we have?

I get that losing the title after such a great season is painful but we’ve come up against a phenomenal team in city and if they beat Brighton, they unfortunately deserve it. Two of the best premier league teams competed and they have edged it. We shouldn’t be calling our players/ manager/ club bottlers, let’s be proud of the great season we’ve had and push on.

Only a few years ago we had the likes of Ngog, Poulsen, Konchesky etc. We’ve come along way and there’s more to come. I’m proud of the team and we can / will push on and win trophies.

23.) 07 May 2019 00:25:39
Bottled it, my arse. What ten point lead? If a draws against Leicester and West Ham and one defeat all season is what blew it for us, I'll take that and blow it every season.
It's been an incredible season and I couldn't ask for more from my team. It might not be enough to win a trophy but I'm thrilled to be even in with a chance of either.
"Are you not entertained? "

24.) 07 May 2019 00:58:58
I only hope that UEFA don’t bottle throwing the book at City for cheating the fair play regulations the way we have the league. That will be enough to stop top players joining and will make their owners disappear.

25.) 07 May 2019 07:55:54
FranklyMrShankly, your talk of ‘bottling it’ makes you look foolish. If you cannot understand that a team cannot go a whole season without dropping points then I don’t think you understand football. City have lost 4 games including 2 consecutive games in the week before Christmas - have they ‘bottled it’? If City beat us to the PL title - and it’s not over yet - it will be because they beat us at the Etihad Stadium by one goal in a very tight game. Neither Liverpool nor City have ‘bottled’ anything, they have given us the greatest PL title race ever which should be celebrated not whined about.

26.) 07 May 2019 09:44:29
When you compare this season to last, we have made 1 significant leap.
We would have won all but 2 prem titles with the points we have right now, literally the 3rd highest point tally in premier league history eclipsed only by City right now and City last season.
And considering we was on the edge of losing top 4 last season I think no matter what happens we can be proud AF of this great side! Stop the negativity.

27.) 07 May 2019 11:20:09
Bottling it is what the 4 teams occupying 3rd - 6th have done. It’s like they don’t want champions league next season.



06 May 2019 21:30:55
Thoughts turn to Brighton. What can you say about a goal like that. S*it.

Rome 1977

1.) 06 May 2019 21:36:51
What a bloody goal, fair play. Leicester still have time but all I'll say now is, come on Brighton! I will not stop believing until its over. We can and will win the league. Something will go wrong for City in this game or the next.

2.) 06 May 2019 21:37:41
Absolutely stunning.

3.) 06 May 2019 21:39:30
yeah i think brighton will be lucky to keep it below a 3-0.

4.) 06 May 2019 21:39:42
I think that's it guys. I really thought leicester was going to hang on but hey we move on next game and the next season.

5.) 06 May 2019 21:42:39
Deluded 😂.

6.) 06 May 2019 21:58:38
it's not giving up!

but there's nothing you can do when that's happening. lcfc did everything! city were out of ideas and kompany goes and does that.

it was a killer but now it's a relief, because there is no more anyone can do to city. they have the luck and one game against Brighton which they will 150% win! We're on our last legs, could take a pasting tomorrow night and wolves are a hell of a team to play with the feeling our boys will have.

wouldn't even surprise me for us to draw and city to draw tbh!

7.) 06 May 2019 22:13:28
I said City wouldn’t drop points as no one was willing to give them a game. Literally every team since Newcastle has dropped their pants and bent over. Expect them to hammer Brighton whilst we struggle to draw against Wolves.

{Ed025's Note - what a load of crap!!, leicester and most others have give it a good go but came up against a fantastically talented hard working side FMS, show a bit of class mate and give up on the conspiracy theories ffs..




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20 Oct 2020 16:00:26
Agree with you on that, Juicer. I know a lot of Wolves supporters who rate Coady but say he lacks pace.

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15 Oct 2020 22:11:05
I was lambasted on here, back in April, when I said I would never forgive our owners for furloughing staff (then backtracked) . They are at it again, trying to screw as much money.

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18 Apr 2020 14:49:58
Never say never. The world is changing Shaq.

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18 Apr 2020 09:54:19
WYred, if there was less demand for flights, airline companies wouldn't fly empty planes.

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17 Apr 2020 21:16:52
Ed02, with regards to your life as a "gentleman traveller" do you not care about your own carbon footprint? Countless people are saying during this lockdown that technology, nowadays, shouldn't necessitate circumnavigating the globe when one can just sit in front of a laptop to tell someone to sack Brenda in accounts.

Rome 1977

{Ed002's Note - I “appreciate” the damage I am doing and depending on who books my travel the offset is paid - probably more often than not. I do what I can from my office by spent 226 days in hotels last year.}




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22 Oct 2020 23:41:06
I agree with you, Hailstones. No player is undroppable and with the glut of games coming up, it would be hard for any player to perform at the optimum in every game.

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21 Oct 2020 21:56:43
I've seen cruise liners turn faster than VDB, No where near ready.

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21 Oct 2020 16:34:22
Salah, you disappoint me, mate. You won't be watching tonight because you say you're "bored of it all". It's your absolute right to do whatever you want, but it's a poor excuse as to why you're not going to watch us.

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19 Oct 2020 12:43:52
Salah, yes mate, me. I hate football without supporters, plus everything else you've said. My love for Liverpool will never change, but my love of football is on the decline.

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27 Jul 2020 20:33:47
Johncrow, if we have to rely on van den Berg as our 4th choice centre back, next season, we will be struggling. I appreciate he's only a kid but from what I've seen he's light years from the first team. He also seems to have an alarming lack of pace, which is something he's not going to acquire.
Hope I'm completely wrong and he turns out to be the next Alan Hansen.

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