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26 Dec 2016 10:56:35
Papers are crazy, apparently PSG are going to offer 40 mill for Couthino in January yet the same people report Van Dijk might go for 40 mill.
In todays prices he's worth a fortune surely, and I can't see as we'd seriously want him to go, heard anything eds? I don't see how we'd be letting him go mid season, plus isn't he obsessed with a Barcelona move?
{Ed002's Note - I would forget the amounts involved and ceratyinly Southampton have priced van Dijk well beyond that. PSG and Barcelona are both interested in him - PSG may well make a January offer - I have explained this over and over during the past months.}
1.) 26 Dec 2016 11:10:23
It will be 80 and everyone is happy .
2.) 26 Dec 2016 11:20:19
I imagine £40 million falls short of what we would look to sell for. PSG won't get him on the cheap and especially not in Jan.
3.) 26 Dec 2016 12:52:53
We shouldn't sell our best players at all if we want to challenge, pip has the potential to be world class.
Baz.
4.) 26 Dec 2016 14:04:36
He has a better chance of UCL title with Liverpool than PSG. psg st most semifinalist. He may leave if Barcelona come calling.
5.) 26 Dec 2016 14:45:25
40 mill for counts Shirley it's Dec not April 1st!
6.) 26 Dec 2016 14:46:39
£40,000,001?
7.) 26 Dec 2016 16:10:22
FSG will not sell. I am convinced that FSG will not sell Coutinho. They are genuinely looking to win trophies. No matter how much money PSG or Barcelona wants to pay it will not come close to the increase in valuation of the club from winning trophies.
8.) 26 Dec 2016 16:10:23
Always said that if a player wants to leave then there is no point keeping him but a) I'd want a lot more than £40m for Coutinho and b) does he really want to go to a league where there isn't that much of a challenge? May as well follow Oscar to China if France is his only option.
Let's charge them £60m and move on if we have to.
9.) 26 Dec 2016 17:53:25
I don't know how has money ever replaced world class players in the past? Keep him and resist any sort of offer. FSG have learned a good lesson with Suarez safe and the money.
10.) 26 Dec 2016 23:56:58
I would be astonished if FSG agreed to sell him in Jan, whatever the offer.
A sale in the summer is a real possibility, but Klopp has already shown that his view is that no player should be sold for less than market value- and Phils value could be in the same league as Pogba.
If he goes, I believe we will get a major, major fee for him.
11.) 28 Dec 2016 10:45:30
Why would coutihno go to barca, he will never oust the likes of Suarez, neymar or messi. so its likely most of his time will be on the bench.
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11 Jun 2017 09:09:08
Tadic tumour in one paper, lazy journalism or us yet again wanting a lesser target than expected?
1.) 11 Jun 2017 09:24:50
Lazy journalism and I can't see Southampton selling to us!
2.) 11 Jun 2017 09:49:54
Hope he recovers.
3.) 11 Jun 2017 09:55:36
Lets hope the tumour isn't terminal.
4.) 11 Jun 2017 10:05:17
Seriously? I hope he is ok and makes a speedy recovery.
5.) 11 Jun 2017 10:29:24
YNWA Tadic 😔.
6.) 11 Jun 2017 10:42:35
Going after another sick note, FSG OUT!
7.) 12 Jun 2017 10:27:17
I also suspect it may be lazy journalism. With a £13m release clause he represents reasonable value for adding squad depth.
08 Jun 2017 13:36:28
Solanke and Ojo have been brilliant for the U20's very impressive lads.
{Ed025's Note - nearly as good as jonjoe kenny.. :)
1.) 08 Jun 2017 13:55:27
He also was bloody brilliant, I thought they all played well 025 buddy, brilliant game to watch and Solanke ended up with 2, that Lookman looks a handful!
{Ed025's Note - it would be nice to see some of these young guys given a chance in their prem teams richie, plus it would save a lot of dosh mate..
2.) 08 Jun 2017 15:05:24
I was actually impressed with Kenny, the man has endless amounts of energy, was charging from right back on a regular basis which takes some doing.
Of course, the two Liverpool boys had to provide the quality needed in the end :P
Have to admit though, the players that have really impressed me from the U20's would have to be: Lookman, Ojo, Tomori and Solanke. Solanke and Lookman, in particular, look head and shoulders better than anyone in the competition, including teammates.
Kieran Dowell and Maitland-Niles were awful though, I don't think either one managed to place one pass to a teammate. Cook, considering how many people have lauded the kid, was also underwhelming I felt. The lad is supposed to be captain but I don't see what is so special about him.
Also, how Dowell was able to push Ojo out of the side, I will never know.
Fingers crossed that England finally win a World Cup, it may not be the senior one, but it will just have to do :)
{Ed025's Note - dowell has been excellent before this game mango, the kid has a big future mate..
3.) 08 Jun 2017 15:57:13
JonJoe Kenny and Kieran Dowell for Ireland! :p.
{Ed001's Note - Kenny was excellent but Dowell is a stroller for me. Didn't rate him at all in any of the previous games.}
4.) 08 Jun 2017 16:07:43
Why isn't Trent in the squad ed?
{Ed001's Note - was he not pulled out of it by Liverpool when he got the call up? Or is he in the U21s and I am thinking of a different player? Not sure mate, I would have to find out, but if I post this up someone will probably answer in the meantime anyway.}
08 Jun 2017 12:09:13
We need winners with attitude to win at all costs, if Costa is going we need to be in for players like him in my book, a proven winning goalscorer.
Lets start acting like a big club, besides i've heard he likes the dodgems and a candy floss.
1.) 08 Jun 2017 12:37:31
To me he's in the same category as Joey Barton. I wouldn't touch him if he was the best player on earth.
2.) 08 Jun 2017 12:37:31
Costa isn't happy in England
Why would he leave Chelsea to join us.
3.) 08 Jun 2017 12:40:49
I think we need to get our house in order and start acting with a bit more respect towards other clubs first before we even begin any more transfers. We have already annoyed 2 separate clubs with our carry on and the transfer window is still another 3 weeks away - I can see this window shaping up to be a disappointment but if we at least manage to salvage our reputation and not act like prats it would be a start.
4.) 08 Jun 2017 12:41:51
Costa in the same bracket as Barton? Come on that is harsh? Is Costa a convicted criminal? No. He is a bit of an arse on the pitch but then that is part of the façade.
5.) 08 Jun 2017 13:14:01
What makes him so bad is that everything he does is deliberate and pre-meditated. He's a nasty piece of work.
6.) 08 Jun 2017 14:02:29
i wouldn't take costa, rather moreno up front.
The clubs reputation is already being damaged by stupid rubbish why even think of bring him in, the press would watch every single move if he became a liverpool player.
7.) 08 Jun 2017 14:04:16
i have to say as much as i dislike costa and loathe to see him in a liverpool shirt, joey barton is in a league all on his own when it comes to disgusting examples of behaviour. there should be some sort of 'fit and proper' persons test when it comes to footballers not just potential club owners!
{Ed025's Note - there would only be enough for 5-a side games if that was the criteria semi.. :)
8.) 08 Jun 2017 14:12:34
Costa looks like a Suarez waiting to happen (and i don't mean the talented parts) . he's a winner but a winner at all costs. Diving, feigning injury, dirty jabs at defenders, theyr all part of his game. No thanks.
{Ed025's Note - i agree VLF, hes a scumbag mate..
9.) 08 Jun 2017 15:53:36
I wouldn't want Costa to mow my lawn, he is that much a nasty piece of work.
07 Jun 2017 20:56:43
Im just going to point out how we are all feeling, its not just anger and its not just frustration that something like this has happened yet again but its embarrassment.
In front of all fans of other clubs, in front of all football fans worldwide, yet again in front of all our own fans we are in the middle of a joke of a situation.
Please do not give any comments about overreaction or how he wasnt worth the money, i've been a fan over 40 years and im really tired of the same old nonsense, someone somewhere for a start can't keep their mouthes shut when it comes to our business, Klopp if being a part of this like it seems has zero excuses at all and is just as accountable as our very shabby boardroom ethics, heres a wacky idea, identify targets, go through the right channels and most of all pay the soddin asking price! We keep lowballing these offers in and trying to save two bob everywhere and its not working.
I thought this summer was going to be different but already there is talk of cheaper alternatives and a winger at more money than Salah tbat we've never heard of.
Sorry everyone but im embarrassed right now and its becoming normal.
{Ed025's Note - i think most feel the same richie..
1.) 07 Jun 2017 21:36:00
Fair comment Richie - we really need to improve our dealings with other clubs and build respect, not worsen our name in the game.
I sincerely hope there is something constructive behind the scenes and despite the embarrassment this means we have something closed for Salah soon and another good CB target in mind.
Liverpool please sort this cr@p out, it's not in keeping with the great legacy of this club.
2.) 07 Jun 2017 21:41:38
I think it's all part of the premier league circus.
The whole thing game is laughable and surreal.
£75m for a slightly above average footballer, yet we have kids waking up not knowing whether they will have any clean drinking water.
I can't take the premier league seriously and so I can't get myself upset over anything that happens.
Southampton have literally "told the teacher" today.
It's like a school playground full of billionaires.
{Ed025's Note - well said ron mate..
3.) 07 Jun 2017 21:58:13
Top post Richie, really hope this was more stupidity and ignorance than anything clandestine. Whatever the case it really is embarrassing and needs to be dealt with immediately. As for Martins I cannot see the logic in spending more money for less quality right now. Unless its something else that's holding up the Salah deal I really cannot rationalize it, in literally 48 hours the club have managed to kill my preseason buzz.
4.) 07 Jun 2017 21:58:13
Top post Richie, really hope this was more stupidity and ignorance than anything clandestine. Whatever the case it really is embarrassing and needs to be dealt with immediately. As for Martins I cannot see the logic in spending more money for less quality right now. Unless its something else that's holding up the Salah deal I really cannot rationalize it, in literally 48 hours the club have managed to kill my preseason buzz.
5.) 07 Jun 2017 22:24:54
Your over reaction is an embarrassment.
"And most of all pay the soddin asking price! "
Sounds like a great business plan.
6.) 07 Jun 2017 22:28:16
Post of the day for me.
05 Jun 2017 21:13:13
Come on! what's wrong with people? Why are so many on here whining about prices? Everyone else spends big money and we moan we're in the bargain basement, shop in the top shop and whine we're overspending? Seriously? Its not our money and after last seasons profit im saying we can probably afford it, VVD was essily the best defender in the league last season before his injury, every club wanted him and yet here are people telling us what he's worth, let me tell you if pogbas worth nearly a 100 million then VVD is easily worth 60, and let's not play the 'well we have Gomez and Lovren' card, they are not in this lads class.
Anyone would think we don't want to win the Champions league again, and let me tell you we aren't in there to get past the group stage we're there to win it or what's the point.
Chill out fellas its all good stuff!
YNWA.
{Ed025's Note - im with you richie..
1.) 05 Jun 2017 21:33:30
But are you still in bargain basement and just paying top prices.
Point is is vvd that much better thab a defender who would cost 25/ 30.
There are loads out there. We are paying a rediculous premium on a good player but end of the day he's a southampton defender who we trully only ever see twice and on MOTD. And he is like prime time for motd. Overall though when selecting a defender having to then teach him how to defend is not what 60 mil shouls buy.
I guarentee we could offer 60 million for most top cbs and probably get them.
200k a week. We could tempt them.
The problem is the lack of respect for defending. Its an art. As mucb as being good in front of goal.
How many times do you say we can teach them that. it doesn't happen.
The fowlers, kanes and ronaldos. That finish is unteachable. or wait for it. everyone would have the worlds best striker.
Sane as defending. moreno prime example you just cannot teach it.
You can make any set of defenders a solid unit, with dedicated coaching. Pulis and sam do it.
I worry that the same as brendan did with lovren, is think throwing a top defender will fix the problem.
Do you not wonder why we keep buying southampton defenders and they lose them and still defend better than us?
Another issue is he (i don't know bgw) vocal? Because noone else in the back 4 is. If he isn't a leader then who does the coaching on the pitch. pulling the line up, shouting at people to get back into position. Because that's what we need and haven't had since carra.
Im all for vvd but still won't hide my worries, that its for me far too big a risk. He is not the finished article.
Oh and lastly just for a second. What if bayern come for klopp next year, whose going to teach this player to defend? that's where all your faith is afterall.
2.) 05 Jun 2017 21:35:29
Last seasons profit when the club made a £20m plus loss?
Some are living the short memories of H and G when the club was riddled with debt.
Don't worry though, FSG's bank account to the rescue = more debt for Liverpool.
I am excited about this window though. If Liverpool are all in then we might as well do a good job of it. Spend big now, more than what we ever have worry about the rest later. That is the honest truth.
3.) 05 Jun 2017 21:25:50
Yep. Can't disagree.
4.) 05 Jun 2017 21:27:25
Agreed mate. There's no pleasing some people.
5.) 05 Jun 2017 21:46:34
Sorry Supermane, you couldn't be more wrong.
In my view, the fact we are competing with Chelsea and Man City proves this is a player in demand by top clubs.
He will improve a problem area we have had (i. e. leaking goals) and that, in my book, is all that matters.
6.) 05 Jun 2017 21:51:46
Think your spot on there Richie.
7.) 05 Jun 2017 21:40:45
I cannot believe people were satisfied with Lovren and Klavan for the coming season. Lovren single handedly dragged us out of top 4 luckily Coutinho and Danny had other plans! Can you imagine Klavan vs Ronaldo? Lol.
8.) 05 Jun 2017 22:00:55
Cheers 025 buddy, I really don't get it, how can these fifa addicts be so concerned with prices? And who are these 20-30 million pound cb's we could get? Have you seen the average price of players now?
I'll guarantee you this for an absolute fact, if we signed one of these so called 20-30 million pound cb's say Keane or Gibson or anyone else relegated and not good enough for champions league football and someone say like City signed VVD for 60 mill we'd be hearing on here all about the fact we'd been buying our 2nd and 3rd choices and why couldn't we compete for VVD, its stupid getting, some claim to support and want us up there with the money men and then moan when we do buy quality.
Unbelievable, tell me who these top drawer 20-30 million pound centre backs are then as in todays market migs would cost you that and so would Emre Can, who are these world beaters that every top 4 side are obviously missing out on? John Stones 50 million, i'll leave that there.
{Ed025's Note - your dead right richie..
9.) 05 Jun 2017 22:04:21
Zed sure you want to stick with citt as your quality measure?
Sterling, stones, otamendi, mangala
150 mil rigjt there. 3 cbs?
Theyre not very good at judging them are they.
10.) 05 Jun 2017 22:10:37
Let the owners deal with the money, we just do the other important bit and support the player!
11.) 05 Jun 2017 22:18:21
Thea two teams that finished 1st and 2nd in the league were chasing him, allegedly, and we've (hopefully) got him.
I don't give two hoots about the money as its crazy these days period, what I care is that we have improved our team and also avoided our direct competition improving theirs.
12.) 05 Jun 2017 22:18:44
Sorry, I know Citeh finished 3rd! Keep forgetting about Spuds!
13.) 05 Jun 2017 22:51:15
Supermane I get the concern, have the same feelings with Salah if I am really honest. But in football you can't live life thinking what if all the time. Of course he could fail but every player might not settle at a club. We could of gone all out on lb and get mendy and then he not settle in the prem. Then all of us fans would be saying we should of bought VVD and stuck with milner.
Nothing gets done thinking like that. The fact is VVD has been one of the better CBs for the last few seasons. Our defence has been one of the worst. So signing him has to be a good call at the moment. Sure it won't fix the situation but I'd of liked to have VVD rather than Lucas playing against Leicester last season. If we can keep three strong CBs there is expensive but good depth. And if we get a CB pairing that works for 5/ 6 years it starts to look cheap.
14.) 05 Jun 2017 23:01:11
Preaching to the converted richie my friend. Put it thus way, city paid £50m for stones last season. Going by that deal vvd is a steal at the same price. Its the market value even for half decent players so better get used to it.
I know he has deficiencies, but who bloody doesn't and why are people so hung up on money that don't belong to them. Aside from varane who else could come in who is a major improvement on vvd.
15.) 06 Jun 2017 00:09:42
completely agree with Ritchie. If we're proven wrong and so is klopp then have a go about if he's worth it but for now have faith.
16.) 06 Jun 2017 02:48:23
trying to evaluate the worth of a player and comparing his ability to other players based on their market value is just plain STUPID.
we can debate about club's spending power and ability to pay top dollar for the world's best stars. But I just don't understand why it is so important for some of you to compare transfer fees and form complex algorithms so as to ascertain the true value of a transfer compared to other players. I mean c'mon. 50mil for Stones should have had ya scratching ya head hard enough to convince ya to just give up on trying to figure out how it all works!
17.) 06 Jun 2017 04:06:03
there are plenty cb's out there for 25m, the issue is they area higher risk than VVD. If we want to strengthen I think we're better going for a top drawer defender than taking a 25mil defender that might get to that level. we've probably done too much of the latter in recent years which has shown in our ' hits and misses' in the transfer market.
18.) 06 Jun 2017 08:56:14
We aren't city and can't fix this next year. So if this is 60 mil down the toilet it will hurt us.
19.) 06 Jun 2017 09:07:34
Ahhh faith are you upset about us trying to buy vvd. Point is a player is worth whatever a team is willing to pay for him simple as. Whether you liked my comparison or not it highlights that cost has nothing to do with the players ability but their percieved added value that player may or may not bring to a team. I believe vvd would add stability and strength to our back line, how much is that worth to us?
Personally i would be happy for the club to pay £50m to not be embarrassed in the champions league like we were a few seasons ago or totally fall apart in another european final.
20.) 06 Jun 2017 22:26:58
Yeah because we also spent our rivals budget aswel. Oh no tbeu will still sign players.
There are better defenders out thete for much less. Its not the going rate.
Also pogbas fee was just his skill. It was his entire image. Millioms of follows online, addidas poster boy, his own freekin emojis. So there was huhe oayback on the investment. For us if he doesn't work out its pretty much loss all over the park or god forbit klopp pulls a sakho and just wants rid of him.
21.) 07 Jun 2017 15:25:55
But he can't defend. .
What are you not understanding.
He is a huge 60 mil risk. hinged on the hope that klopp can teach him how to defend, like he did eith all our other defenders, esecially moreno.
Gibson can defend, is vocal, the opposite to matip, which is important. he would cost half the amount and can already defend. He also has ed001s approval. he's a carra type, rather than a modern passing type. Although he can do both.
Maybe if we signed him we could get mebdy aswel, and be 100% better off than just vvd and robertson.
You all just want a shiny new toy and be able to say we beat city for him, they let us have him because if theu wanted him we wouldn't be in with a shout.
21 Jul 2016 08:21:23
Windows loads of time yet ED mi old buddy, anything could happen yet with regards to leavers, just a note is Lucas definitely on the out list? And also what's this wee rumour of Flanno out on loan, can't believe that surely?
{Ed001's Note - pretty much everyone is potentially on the out list. As for Flanno, the only possibility would be a short term loan to get his fitness and form back by playing regularly. He does not want to leave, so he would have to be forced out.}
11 Jul 2016 22:54:03
Post of the week TJ hahaha!
15 Feb 2016 12:19:00
its in the Echo now too.
22 Jul 2017 22:33:31
They were all very professional today Harry lad, i thought Klavan did ok but let's not be too harsh he's going to be a good squad man the rest just did a nice pro job
I'll take that and Migs is by far our number 1 and has improved immensely in my book.
So far so good.
18 Jul 2017 17:24:03
Hahaha soz ed just so tired of people repeating the obvious and rehashing twitter posts like its fresh news, 'my sources say' what sources? Tiresome nonsense, titsquirrels everywhere.
{Ed025's Note - i think you should be a bit more positive thats all mate..
18 Jul 2017 16:51:21
Thanks captain obvious.
{Ed025's Note - dont be so miserable richie..
18 Jun 2017 16:19:39
He was ok not sensational, its his head not his body, are we really going to rely on a rarely fit striker, one who hasn't kicked a ball in two seasons and Origi who splits opinion, I fully agree with ED01 we need defenders but we definitely need a world class striker as when we play the little sides that sit back half a chance is often enough, the trouble is if that chance falls to one of our attacking midfielders then against those sides we don't score that many. We all know a fit Sturridge with his head on is a great striker but relying on that is not a good plan for the season in my opinion.
08 Jun 2017 13:55:27
He also was bloody brilliant, I thought they all played well 025 buddy, brilliant game to watch and Solanke ended up with 2, that Lookman looks a handful!
{Ed025's Note - it would be nice to see some of these young guys given a chance in their prem teams richie, plus it would save a lot of dosh mate..