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08 Jun 2018 21:23:43
Right lads, I kid you not, anouncement was meant to be 9pm but Michael Edwards car broke down and had been delayed, they're looking to see if they can still make the announcement tonight or wait till Monday.


1.) 08 Jun 2018 21:40:58
Does he have a white bmw, because he was causing a massive traffic problem on the A1 this afternoon.

2.) 08 Jun 2018 21:43:02
This may be the best post ever on here 😂 like, people used to joke about Ayre's Harley breaking down but this is next level! 😂.

3.) 08 Jun 2018 21:48:43
Up the pool.

4.) 08 Jun 2018 21:48:43
Car? did ayre get to keep the motorcycle, he’s robbed us blind!

5.) 08 Jun 2018 21:50:07
That 1982 pool car robyn reliant was never reliable eh.

6.) 08 Jun 2018 21:52:41
Ha ha ha, it takes 3 days to have his car recovered?
He couldn't afford a taxi or arrange a pickup?
Quality guff!

7.) 08 Jun 2018 21:56:18
Why didn't he just get his brothers dads wifes sister to pick him up in one of her uncles caravans?

8.) 08 Jun 2018 21:59:29
Ive heard he’s only got a pay as you go phone and has used all his data so can’t connect to the internet to announce it until he’s home and can remember the password to his wi-fi.

9.) 08 Jun 2018 21:59:40
Lyon may not want the transfer announced until the French Transfer Window opens tomorrow.

10.) 08 Jun 2018 21:37:26
So we’re in the hands of the 4th emergency service?

Will it still be tonight, a? A?

11.) 08 Jun 2018 21:43:28
Lol love this site.

12.) 08 Jun 2018 22:03:32
Lol no shops working on weekends? :D.

13.) 08 Jun 2018 22:10:15
Get the Bablecopter in.

14.) 08 Jun 2018 22:15:29
Surely Ken Aguero could have give him a tow! 😊.

15.) 08 Jun 2018 22:19:38
Lol love it Putney.

16.) 08 Jun 2018 22:23:35
His car broke down in Kazakhstan 😄.

17.) 08 Jun 2018 22:41:09

18.) 08 Jun 2018 22:41:15
Don't worry lads Edwards did break down in Blackpool but he is on his way, unfortunately its on the back of a donkey, when the donkey drops him of the donkey is going to goodison to see if they will sign him but its highly unlikely coz they haven't got a carrot.

19.) 08 Jun 2018 23:38:31
Surely on of the best windows ever :) just need to get ed001 in goal.

20.) 09 Jun 2018 01:25:09
Do they have double glazing?



05 Feb 2018 10:24:44
Seen rumours flying around about Wilshire and i expect there nothing in them but. There's a cracking player inside Wilshire bubbling beneath the surface and if someone cough'Klopp'cough could get him focused and professional he'd certainly be an improvement on Wiji.

I'd see him as the back up to Henderson and we should be able to get most of a season out of two sick notes combined.


1.) 05 Feb 2018 10:50:10
If he stayed fit all season I would take him all day, but doubt he could, we had these probs wid lallana sturridge an too a lesser extent clyne, important players we need playing firing fit, Wilshire is quality though for free would b worth the gamble.

2.) 05 Feb 2018 11:17:42
He is being looked as - 30 games a season for the next 2 seasons and properly managed unlike what Wenger is doing he will blossom at LFC.

3.) 05 Feb 2018 11:45:27
Another Joe Cole in my eyes. Steer well clear.

4.) 05 Feb 2018 12:24:12
That's harsh mad max.

Joe Cole could play football.

5.) 05 Feb 2018 13:27:25
Absolutely woeful player who gets lauded because he’s English and had one good game in his career. Would be fuming if we bought him because there are far better and less injury prone players around. He creates few chances, he offers no goal threat and is defensively frail.

6.) 05 Feb 2018 14:41:48
it would just be like Liverpool to sign a player like whilshire, how does he strengthen the midfield? all he would be good for would be keeping Henderson company when hendo is injured, we need to be looking at far better quality than this, I only hope this is a silly rumour and nothing more.

7.) 05 Feb 2018 22:10:54
Hardly a woeful player what a ridiculous comment although I’m hardly suprised. he is an excellent player with unfortunate luck wi injuries. if fit and at his best he would improve our centre midfield no end. problem is that the fitness can’t be relied upon. bad track record so stay clear imo.

8.) 05 Feb 2018 22:50:00
Wiltshire would be an upgrade on Grujic, Can and Gini in my opinion. If Klopp wants him then I’m happy.

9.) 06 Feb 2018 02:06:19
"theres a cracking player inside wilshire" Are you implying him and Ozil are about to make some sort of announcement?

10.) 06 Feb 2018 08:16:56
I wouldn’t be keen on him mainly due to injuries but he’s in his best form for years (not a difficult task) and wouldn’t maybe worth a punt if his wages aren’t too high and we don’t have to pay a fee.

11.) 06 Feb 2018 09:26:34
He gets stuck in and can play the ball, which is something we lack in midfield, if he stays fit and when he’s on the pitch he breaks up the play and releases the ball well then I would take him but only on a free to be fair, plus if he leaves Hitchin (his hometown) then he will be more focused on football and not on certain other things that have held his career back.

12.) 06 Feb 2018 23:00:06
He's not dedicated enough, he doesn't train hard enough, he's injured too much, he smokes and drinks in his free time/ weekends, he is miles away from the quality we should be looking at if we want to genuinely improve our midfield. Klopp is a decent coach, he is not a magician and he cannot magical transform unprofessional, uninterested players into world beaters. Wilshere will always be a case of what could have been - let another side take a punt and pay him extortionate wages, this is the exact sort of signing we need to avoid.



07 Sep 2017 16:15:37
How's this for a conspiracy theory, a factor in deciding to keep Moreno was to ensure Coutinho had a close friend in the squad.


1.) 07 Sep 2017 17:50:33
Moreno is klopps long lost lovechild only way to explain it.

2.) 07 Sep 2017 19:00:20
And Roberto Firmino isn't a close friend of Coutinho?

3.) 07 Sep 2017 19:54:02
Except that Klopp wanted rid of coutinho at the end.

4.) 07 Sep 2017 19:59:49
you'd think he would've kept lucas for that.

5.) 07 Sep 2017 20:10:25
Reid, just because they're both Brazilian doesn't make them best mates.

6.) 07 Sep 2017 20:15:50
He definitely is closer too moreno, moreno has a good character round the dressing room I hope he can somehow come good.

{Ed025's Note - and i want everton to win the CL hailstones...same chance..

7.) 07 Sep 2017 20:21:34
Or that Moreno has improved?

{Ed025's Note - silk purses and sows ears and all that..

8.) 07 Sep 2017 20:32:58
See his face from the bench.

9.) 07 Sep 2017 20:45:48
Moreno hasn't improved imo, he's been just as bad this season. I do however know from someone who works for the club that he's a top bloke.

{Ed025's Note - aah thats nice cobra..

10.) 07 Sep 2017 21:03:15
Ed25 seems like a nice bloke but then you remember he's a biter!

11.) 07 Sep 2017 22:06:29
Klopp said through out last season that the best in training in terms of attitude and commitment, is Moreno.

12.) 07 Sep 2017 23:08:39
Is pipco back in training?

13.) 07 Sep 2017 23:25:24
Big season ahead for Moreno. From what I saw, it was his pre season appearaces that kept him at the club,
He's another year older now and hopefully not as wrash in his decision making,

FB must be the hardest position on the pitch to play, you really need eyes in the back of your head.

14.) 08 Sep 2017 00:34:39
Yes and we kept Bogdan whom is a close friend of markovic whom is a close friend of Moreno whom of co as you said is a close friend of Coutinho.

15.) 08 Sep 2017 00:03:44
Proper neg ead u ed 025 he can improve can't he, also he has shown in the past he has had good games he has room too improve young lad comin too different league, he could b adapting, jus needs too find consistency.

{Ed025's Note - im a realist hailstones, he has been at the club for 3 years now so how long do you want to wait for him to improve?...just admit hes a lemon like karius, thats the problem with liverpool supporters they cant admit that some of their players are sub standard mate..

16.) 08 Sep 2017 06:53:30
Moreno is average going forward and when he gets beaten in defence and has to chase back he is a liability. Can't tackle and is so rash when chasing back that he gives free kicks away in dangerous areas and penalties.

Who cares if he is a nice guy.
Hate player bashing but he has a long way to go to win the fans over.

17.) 08 Sep 2017 08:53:36
Ed25, us LFC fans use to get a lot of stick for not "getting behind" players or "slagging them off" and now your saying we can't admit sub standard?
Everton fans are so delirious its quite scary. 😂🙈.

{Ed025's Note - encouragement is fine kopette, but lets not pretend that all reds players are world beaters thats all, some of them are of course (mane,couts) but there is also a lot of dross in there as well, lets just be honest mate..

18.) 08 Sep 2017 09:52:57
Were not sayin that ed 025, we sayin the lad is learning his trade he young look at david luiz no one would say he could improve look at salah also victor moses, if this season he constantly makin mistakes ok we hold our hands up, but if he shows improvement give the lad a chance, I think he can offer something an he has quality.

{Ed025's Note - we are all entitled to our opinions hailstones, the fact that you dont recognise a nugget when you see one still perplexes me though mate..

19.) 08 Sep 2017 10:15:35
Beddoerocks, you say Moreno can't tackle but I was reading an article yesterday that stated he is our leading tackler this season with 9, Matip is second on 8.

20.) 08 Sep 2017 11:09:41
Ed025, how can you call Karius a lemon? Lads only played a few games for us and he's young.

Certiainly not going to praise him yet as tour next great no 1 but don't you think it's fair to wait and see how he turns out before passing judgement? Looking through the those toffee spectacles again?!

{Ed025's Note - i have this philosophy you see hamish...if a guy knocks at my door wearing a green curly wig, bulbous red nose, yellow check suit and size 27 boots then i think to myself...this guys a clown, i dont need to interview him mate, i can tell straight away..

21.) 08 Sep 2017 12:07:48
Hahaha ok ed 025, I just like too see my glass is half full than half empty he has put in good performances an shown too b a decent left back admittedly in beginning of his liverpool career but why can't he improve mate he has time on his side, I was his biggest doubter last 2 seasons I know why u say wat u do, but this a make or break season for him, he is showin signs of getting better so I have too get behind him.

{Ed025's Note - and thats ok by me hailstones...hows the weather today in cloud cuckoo land mate.. :)

22.) 08 Sep 2017 12:09:18
Moreno isn't a nugget he a professional footballer getting paid handsomely.

{Ed025's Note - in our local Mcdonalds they now sell chicken you could be wrong mate..

23.) 08 Sep 2017 13:09:55
Hahaha I am more into subway.

24.) 08 Sep 2017 12:50:51
Ed025, really? Come on mate you are being a little bit over the top. Moreno and Karius are both young and moved from different leagues.

Did you assume that De Gea was a lemon when he first joined United? With his comedy goal keeping and his lack of any physicality? His first season was an absolute disaster and now look at him, he's arguably one of the top 5 in the world as a keeper.

I'm not for one moment saying that Karius will get this good, I'm just saying his situation is comparable to De Gea, although I think De Gea actually had a worse first season than Karius, so we should give him a chance.

{Ed025's Note - im all for giving him a chance hsf, but he has yet to prove he is anything more than a liability so at the moment he is certainly a lemon, will he improve..possibly but until he does i think its fair to assume he is not up to the job, moreno has had 3 years and if he has not made the transition by now then we can reasonable assume hes a dud, its not all his fault though as it seems the coaching defensively at least is certainly lacking at liverpool mate..

25.) 09 Sep 2017 08:00:33
How anyone can say that Moreno hasn't had enough time to prove himself is beyond me! 1 good pre season game and everyone thinks he's Ashley Cole. He has proven time and time again he doesn't have the aptitude for being a left back and he's done nothing this season to prove me otherwise.
Training hard, having the right attitude and being a top bloke should not be enough to keep you in a team wanting to win honours.

{Ed025's Note - im with you cobra..

26.) 10 Sep 2017 20:02:35
Tizer I am not making my comment based on 2 or 3 games.

Moreno is not a good defender when turned. Season after season we have seen that. By all means throw stats around 93% of people know stats can used to prove a incorrect opinion 😁.

27.) 10 Sep 2017 22:05:34
We need a stable back 4. Chopping and changing is not ideal. We should try and develop a steady first back 4 to enable an understanding to develop. Stick Robertson in the LB slot TAA in RB slot and settle on a first choice CB pairing (Loren and Matip for me)

Klopp needs to commit as we have the players but they rarely ever play more than one game together.

If klopp rates Moreno then fine. But stand by the decision and give him a run in the team with a steady defensive line that can cover his shortcomings.



15 Aug 2017 14:12:13
Ed1, is there any indication from your sources that the reason for Coutinho missing games is anything other than injury?


{Ed001's Note - not at the moment, but he is close to fitness, so it will be interesting to see if he is still missing games after the weekend.}

1.) 15 Aug 2017 15:53:58
Tite has said that he will only consider players who play regularly for the WC squad, even if it is Coutinho. If the club holds firm and keep him, he needs to build bridges and get into the team and have a good season if he wants to play in the WC.

2.) 15 Aug 2017 16:03:57
Cou is not that much of a sulker anyway as downing tools is not his thing. He may need time to clear his head but he will give his all esp. as his WC place is at stake as Tite does not play favorites like his incompetent predecessors Dunga and esp. Scolari.

3.) 15 Aug 2017 16:17:31
Its a shame the club couldn't sort it out behind closed doors. The lad deserves his chance at barcelona. Hope he goes on and smashes it this season wherever he plays. I want to see him at the world cup.

4.) 15 Aug 2017 16:23:21
Look, the kid wants to go, he'll be on the front of video games. Think in terms of a career, when you get offered a promotion you rarely turn it down. No offence to lfc, My first love. Reckon we might keep him until January. And I think you're right, he is not a sulker. He is still going to love us. Ynwa.

5.) 15 Aug 2017 16:25:51
Thanks Ed, I hoped that was the case.

6.) 15 Aug 2017 16:57:51
Barcelona bidding at 7:30 would be interesting though. 15 mins before kickoff, with the players wondering if he would be sold before the end of the 1st half. Lol.
Unless they don't get to see the news.

7.) 15 Aug 2017 19:30:27
If the club decides Coutinho is going nowhere and goes on and refuses to play for us then I will loose all respect. Then he can rot.

Suarez spat out his dummy when he found out he was not leaving immediately but still gave his all on the pitch irrespective of him being miff.

8.) 16 Aug 2017 00:54:09
I fail to realize why he'd want to go to Barca. I'm serious when I say that we look more prospecting then that lot at the moment. They will need Suarez, Iniesta, Alves, Messi, Alba and Neymar replacements by a few years time, without them their squad is nothing. Not to mention his best friend left them too. And in that case PSG I'd understand with the whole Brazilian entourage, but Barcelona is falling and makes no sense.

{Ed002's Note - They are not failing that much. They will have plauyers like Dembele and Coutinho - they will look again to Dybala next summer. They are successful in Europe and Domestically.}

9.) 16 Aug 2017 07:23:43
Lol. Biggest club in the world not that good. If they're no good then can you please tell me what football tou are watching. "If they didn't have *list sll their players* they would be no good. " what? If my house had no roof then I would get wet. But it has got a roof and now znd then needs a bit of attention. Players are so much more intelligent as they reach their peak 27 - 31 and more likely to go well in knock out comps. Barcelona are very dangerous. We beat bayern, we beat chelsea arsenal city and spurs last term. Barcelona would try to play football with us and thus would be playing right into our hands.

10.) 16 Aug 2017 08:17:46
If they're not that good, god knows what we are then. I was not convinced last night. That midfield and defence is poo.

11.) 16 Aug 2017 15:06:47
Defence was class last night. We won, away from home at a very decent side. Our boys tactics were near perfect. Hoffenhiem may have more of the ball but that is how liverpool played it. Last night the result was more important than playing silky football. If not for fantastic defending we would have more work to do at anfield.

12.) 16 Aug 2017 15:41:25
Can I have some of what your on please Superred91.

13.) 16 Aug 2017 16:54:25
I'm afraid you can't Lancaster. Steven Gerrard called the defence brilliant last night and I agree. I though we defended excellently.

14.) 16 Aug 2017 17:05:48
Did you see how we let them have the ball? We didn't press them how we normally do. It was the game plan to soak up their pressure and punish them on the break. This is European football and hoffenhiem were a decent side who are very strong at home. Teams are always going to get through. Ok lovren wasn't amazing but he did make some vital interceptions and tackles, headers. Look. We won. Somewhere bayern and dortmund came unstuck.

15.) 16 Aug 2017 20:08:56
Our defence has many faults and they have been awful at times. I admit to going a bit OTT when it comes to rating liverpool players but I was very happy that we got a result and look like qualifying for UCL now. I also love my club and believe credit where it's due. The boys did pretty well defencively. That touch matip did to stop the cross reaching hoffenhiem forward. Brilliant. I think for once they earned some praise.

16.) 17 Aug 2017 08:44:34
Biggest thing with being at Barcelona is pretty much guaranteed ECL every year because of the league they are in.



07 Jul 2017 13:03:17
Lots of people are upset about our transfer activity so far this summer and I have to extend my sympathies to the Eds for what they have to put up with. I thought I’d try and read between the lines a bit to try and understand what's happened so far this season and what's going on now. This is, of course, complete guess work but it may help some understand why we haven’t finished our transfer activity yet.

Ahead of the this summer Klopp had a couple of main priorities, a second top class wide player and fixing the left back position. We needed a wide man because of an over-reliance on Mane and at LB, despite Milner doing a decent job, Klopp wanted more pace and a left foot there. CB was a concern but not the priority (hence Lovren’s new contract and the assurances that were given to Gomez early on) . Two things have changed since the early planning, the (apparent) availability of VVD and the potential need for CM if Coutinho or Can leave.

The wide man is easiest to deal with as Salah’s already here. Klopp wanted Brandt but Brandt wasn’t sure so we moved on to another target who wanted to come to us and who’s club were content to sell to us, this was completed in fairly good order. LB has been far more problematic. Kolasinac chose Arsenal, Mendy appears to have chosen City and Tierney is content where he is so none of the players Klopp wanted were available (Sessegnon was one for the future not the first team) . Klopp will go for Robertson if he has to but the fact that he’s not a Liverpool player yet suggests we’re exploring other options. If it gets to August and no other option has become available I expect Robertson to come in then.

The VVD saga has caused problems. I expect when Lovren signed his contract he was expecting to be first choice but this that changed when VVD expressed an interest in joining us. Lovren now knows that Klopp is not satisfied with him and I expect Klopp doesn’t want to rely on an unsettled CB, therefore, by circumstance, CB has become a priority. I understand there is still a hope that a deal with Saints can be made whilst Saints will be hoping they can sell to someone else but, if there are no other takers, they may be prepared to speak to Liverpool again. Therefore Liverpool are biding their time, they are looking at other options if VVD doesn’t come but they are hoping that they get another chance and are prepared to wait.

The CM story is different again. With the danger of Can not signing a contract or Coutinho leaving for mega-bucks it was prudent to start looking at replacements and Keita was identified as an option. My suspicion is that something has happened behind the scene and it is now expected that either Can or Coutinho will be elsewhere next season and Keita went from an option to a primary target. I doubt Liverpool will let Coutinho leave without a replacement being identified so that deal will depend on RBL agreeing to sell Keita (and may also explain their high asking price) or an alternative of similar quality becoming available. This saga will likely rumble on for the rest of the summer.

Oxlade-Chamberlain is separate to all this. I expect this is another unexpected opportunity. On paper O-C seems to be a good fit for Klopp and Klopp would be happy to bring in a player who can cover any position across the midfield. Right now the ball is with O-C and his agent, they are waiting to see who offers them the best deal, Arsenal, Liverpool or maybe someone else. With the player due back in training shortly I expect he’ll want to make a decision soon.

In summary I expect O-C to make a decision on his future shortly, Liverpool will look to bring in a LB to join pre-season as soon as possible with Robertson being the player they go for if no better option presents itself. Meanwhile Klopp is prepared to wait on VVD’s availability and Leipzig will hold out for as much of the Coutinho money as they can get.


1.) 07 Jul 2017 13:09:26
I don't think Robertson will wait till August 31 to move clubs. Two clubs are taking to hull and a decision has to be made soon, not haggle around!
Keita and Coutinho are completely unrelated! The club and the manager will face riot from supporters if Coutinho is sold!

2.) 07 Jul 2017 13:51:20
I agree with if you know me. Coutinho is staying, I have no doubt.

I agree with Putneyred on VVD. Liverpool will wait to see if anyone else approaches and if not, I'd expect an offer and acceptance in late August.

As for left backs, I don't know what to expect.

I hope we get Keita, VVD and a proper LB because if we do, I genuinely believe we would have the squad to challenge on all fronts.


3.) 07 Jul 2017 14:02:05
What if coutinho wants to leave and tries to give it through, would the riot still go ahead. It tickles me that we moan if players want to go even if we don't want to sell, but if we want a player who the other club don't want to sell we want them to force the move! We will get deals done if a player and club are happy with the move and we pay the money required, simples😉.

4.) 07 Jul 2017 14:19:17
Don't worry Putney Red, the Eds don't do this at the point of a gun.

{Ed001's Note - it is mild torture I use to force them, no guns involved.}

5.) 07 Jul 2017 14:32:00
I find it highly unlikely that coutinho will be leaving. Not only have the club shown no sign that we would be willing to sell but more importantly phil himself has given no indication that he wants to leave. In fact he has gone the opposite way and not even sounded vague about it. Also the fact that Barcelona aren't interested is even better for us. There is no way he is leaving us for PSG before playing in champions league which he continues to say how excited he is for.

6.) 08 Jul 2017 00:26:18
I doubt Coutinho would leave for any club other than Barcelona. He definitely wouldn't go to another EPL club and it makes little sense for him to go to PSG, unless they offered him a crazy amount of money and he was money-hungry, but he doesn't seem to be like that. Mu gut feeling and reson tell me Coutinho is quite happy to stay with us for another season and reassess his options later. playing for a great club, under a great coach y now with the opportunity of CL, which is what he wanted. JK needs to continue to build a strong squad with the likes of the players we're being linked with (VVD, Keita etc) and our top players will have even less of a reason to leave. Plus LFC is a family and there will always be players that appreciate that and want to stay. Coutinho looks like that type of player in my opinion.

7.) 08 Jul 2017 20:33:16
Vvd is worth pushing for. Kieta isn't worth the money and our current midfielders are just as good if not better. Keep hearing people say he helped his team qualify for champions league, well so did lallana Hendo can wijnaldum and coutinio. In a much much tougher league. Kieta is not half the player pogba is and would cost almost as much. We would be ridiculed. He is not the player everyone here thinks he is.




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2018/19 is the best Liverpool team I've seen

07 May 2019 17:12:21
{Ed's Note - PutneyRed has posted a new article entitled, 2018/19 is the best Liverpool team I've seen


1.) 07 May 2019 18:06:41
Personally I don't think it is, yet. I think in 18 months it will be with Joe trent getting more experience and possibly rhian getting himself in the conversation more. With the young team we have could possibly lead to a Barcelona type dominance of English and European football.

Good read however 👍.

2.) 07 May 2019 18:22:31
Nice to see you posting again Putney Red, good to have you back.

3.) 07 May 2019 18:56:25
Good man Putney long time.

4.) 07 May 2019 19:22:16
Long overdue Putney Red good to have you back sir.

5.) 07 May 2019 19:27:01
Good review. Totally agree mate.

6.) 07 May 2019 23:31:34
Cheers guys, I said this team had nothing to great from any other on the world. Bloody Hell!



23 Jul 2018 13:34:31
Oh god, it’s happening again. For those of you who follow my posts closely (wait, none of you!?! ) you’ll know that I have an unhealthy man-crush on Daniel Sturridge. It was love at first sight for me; Sturridge scored on his debut coming off the bench against Utd; he played an important role in an improving Liverpool side ending the season with 10 Pl goals for Liverpool from just 1090 minutes of play. I loved the idea of a young English player, who had struggled to make his mark at Man City and Chelsea, coming to Liverpool, joining Rodgers’ revolution, and instantly being brilliant. My appreciation of the player turned into a full blown infatuation in the 13/ 14 season where, alongside Suarez, he was astonishing; his 22 PL goals, one every 104 minutes, was a world class return. Make no mistake, in the summer of 2014 Daniel Sturridge could be reasonably judged the equal of Liverpool’s most famous scoring legends, not only was he a deadly finisher and lightning fast, but he had a technique and trickery on the ball that was practically unheard of in England players.

It took 3 and half years for me to come to terms with the fact that I’d never see the 13/ 14 Studge play again; there’s no need to discuss his injuries, they’ve become cliché, even when he has been fit it’ become clear that Firmino is a far more suitable no.9 for Klopp’s primary game plan. When Studge left on loan for WBA I was sure his time was up and I wrote a long gushing post wishing him well in the future. But now, like the ex-girlfriend who knows she’s got you wrapped around her finger, Studge has started flirting with me again.

Firmino is top dog, I can have a legitimate argument whether he’s a world class striker, but there is no doubt that Firmino is perfect for how Klopp wants to see Liverpool play, but we need an alternative on the bench. There’s no indication that we plan to dip into the transfer market so that leaves Ings, Origi, Solanke, Brewster and Studge as the options. Ings wants to leave, he’s not making progress at Liverpool and deserves the chance to fulfil a career that promised much elsewhere. Origi seems to be going backwards, a player with the physical and technical attributes to succeed at Liverpool seems to have lost his way, even if was possible that he would find his form, Liverpool don’t want to have to rely on a player who may be spent. Solanke has good potential but he needs space to develop and he’s not going to get that at Liverpool this year. Brewster may have the highest ceiling of everyone but he’s still just a pup. That leaves Sturridge, if the last four years have taught me anything it’s that he’s going to break the instant we need him but he’s been our only striker who’s looked the part so far in pre-season and he and Keita combining looks very natural. It’s got me thinking ‘what if Studge can stay fit? What if Keita can keep finding him with through balls? What if he finds his mojo again and starts making defenders look dumb again? Could we get the happy ending I’ve waited four years for? ’. The rational side of me knows it’s going to end in disaster, he’ll probably be sold in the next few weeks and, if he isn’t, he’ll rupture some tendon on Sep 1st, but possibly, just possibly, everything will come together and the most talented Englishman of his generation will grace us again, wouldn’t that be amazing.


1.) 23 Jul 2018 13:43:25
Groundhog Day Putney ( and it feels like it with my posts on him. ) he’ll be injured before September.

2.) 23 Jul 2018 13:46:06
PR, we have asked the "‘what if Studge can stay fit? " too many times and we all know the answer to that. He was healthy as well during last preseason and did well then, only for the season to begin and for the same ol' story to crop up again. If I were you, I would hurry up AND wait, to see what happens.

3.) 23 Jul 2018 13:47:29
I'm with you Putney. If you were selling a Sierra I would have bought it. For the asking price.

Is it me or does Danny look bigger now. Got a bullish look to his shoulders. Maybe there's a plan. His pace is gone but he still has the magic and strength will help. If anything bulk has to help with repetitive injuries? I dunno.

He looks good with keita though I agree.

4.) 23 Jul 2018 13:53:58
I have similar feelings, PutneyRed. I absolutely love Sturridge. His skills, his confidence, his swagger, his sense of humour - I must have watched that interview he did with Sterling where he finds out his pace on Fifa over 100 times. He's too funny!

I am forever hopeful he will turn up again one of these seasons, and am one of probably very few who would like to see him stay at LFC and try to regain a role within the squad. Although realistically, for his own happiness, he may have to move on.

: (.

5.) 23 Jul 2018 13:57:06
His debut was in the FA cup if i'm not mistaken wasn't it? I remember because I put a bet on him to score and won a decent amount of money.

6.) 23 Jul 2018 14:18:56
He's on massive wages and never plays. Them wages could be going to a proper top player who actually contributes to The Club by playing football matches.

7.) 23 Jul 2018 14:29:24
He played last night? Our best player probably.

8.) 23 Jul 2018 15:12:16
Everyone agrees that Sturridge is a top class player. His quality is not in doubt.

But he will get injured a lot.

What he could have been. Sighs.

9.) 23 Jul 2018 17:26:11
I can’t help feeling the same, Putney.

After what happened at West Brom, and coming back to LFC with our front 3 taking all the hype, I am starting to think he might flourish being our go-to guy when we need a goal.
Maybe settle into the elder statesmen role model for Solanke and Brewster?

I know, I know🤦‍♂️

Can’t remember the exact quote, but did anyone else see that bit yesterday before the match when they were changing wheels on that NASCAR?
He said something like “all they can ask is that I try my best”
That’s all we need Danny!



21 Jul 2018 08:55:53
With three weeks left of the transfer window there is a lot that can happen but, as of today, out starting midfield is Hendo, Fabinho and Keita with Lallana, Milner and Wiji as back ups.

With rumours of Wiji moving on I'm wondering if people think this is enough? Mane and Shaqiri can play deeper but neither are natural midfielders and I'm not convinced any of our youth players are knocking on the door this season.

Obviously there's conflicting stories about Fekir but I think we could do with one more player of the right one is available.


1.) 21 Jul 2018 09:24:09
I think it’s a big more flexible than that. With this current squad, Klopp can line up 4-3-3 and go either Fabinho, Hendo, Keita for a more defensive/ neutral setup, or he can go 4-2-3-1 and put Hendo and Keita behind Mane, Firmino, Salah, with Solanke upfront for a much more attacking lineup against defensive sides like Wolverhampton, Fulham and Man Utd ;)

Fekir would be excellent addition and probably would mean one of Lallana, Gini or Milner moving on, but we certainly don’t need him the way we did before Shaqiri and Keita joined.

2.) 21 Jul 2018 10:01:09
Spot on, SGRed. Flexibility is the Klopp way of playing hence, formations do not and have never mattered to him. In one game, we can line up in a 4-3-3 BUT it can change to a 4-4-2, 3-4-3 (if Gomez plays RB), or a 4-2-2-2, a 4-4-2 diamond, all depending on the personnel and goings-on in-game. With the players we have now, we are even MORE flexible than before and that will only bode well for us esp. vs the parked buses. I would love Fekir myself BUT if we don't get him (which I think we will), I'm still cool with what we have done this summer cos we have addressed two KEY areas in the first team as in GK and midfield.

3.) 21 Jul 2018 10:16:24
I wonder if Klopp agrees that, that is our starting midfield or front line as of today. Either way exciting times ahead and lovely to see us with strength in depth.



19 Jul 2018 12:58:33
A rather convuleted question for Ed2 if he'd consider it. The last couple of years has seen Liverpool's transfer strategy change, we've gone from paying middling money for potentially good players to overpaying for established top tier players.

Do you think the overpaying is a deliberate strategy so that we can force our way onto the top table with the Citys, Utds and Chelseas of the world or is that clubs know we have a tendency to overpay and are taking advantage of us?


{Ed002's Note - No, overpaying is absolute stupidity but the owners continue to throw money at another deparate attempt to win the Premier League. The club had to overpay, and in cash, for van Dyke because of the tapping up and the player going on strike. Roma set a price for Alisson that no one else was interested in, given he only has that one year of experience, yet Liverpool paid it.}

1.) 19 Jul 2018 14:06:00
It could end well ala Firmino or end poorly ala Markovic. I prefer our current strategy of buying proven quality as opposed to the Benitez era when we would spend a lot but spread it over a lot of players who where not seen as top players and many would move on in no time for a fraction of the cost.

2.) 19 Jul 2018 14:08:53
ED002 I will counter that and say Chelsea last season bought Danny Drinkwater Ross Barkley and Davide Zappacosta for a combined figure of 78m (not included all the agents fees and hidden bonuses) .
And did not win the title and how much of that money will they get back when selling those players who have not done well and hardly play?
IM quiet happy with the players we have bought in recently and will leave it to FSG to worry about finances
I care about titles and trophies and will leave the finances to the business men to worry about.

{Ed002's Note - What are you talking about - it has nothing to do with Chelsea? Who have won the league and the FA Cup in the past two years. Try not to make these embarrassing posts.}

3.) 19 Jul 2018 14:26:18
80 million pogba. 90 mil lukaku. 60 mil morata. 50 mil sterling. 50 mil stones. 50 mil walker. 50 mil Mendy. 57 mil jorginho. 50 mil fred

There also spending to stay in the game ed my friend.

{Ed002's Note - It always has to be made about someone else - desperately embarrassing. You are aware that these clubs are much better placed than Liverpool financially?}

4.) 19 Jul 2018 14:30:15
Thanks for the response Ed, I assume this will end being a hindsight thing. If it all comes together and we win trophies it will have been worth it, if not questions will be asked.

5.) 19 Jul 2018 14:40:52
Thank you for your response Ed002 im not embarrassed at all
my point is every club does it, even chelsea and im not sure any club in the world would take paying close to 100m for the players i mentioned or Alisson for 67m
Im happy with the buy as is every other poster on this forum and as a fan is that not really counts?
It is not our money and we have no say how it is spent so be happy when liverpool buy a truly world class player who is number one for his country in front of the leagues champions keeper Ederson.

{Ed002's Note - As an example, Southampton were offering van Dyke to there clubs for £15M less than Liverpool and others would not have been cornered over the vast agent fees paid - all because of the illegal activity of Klopp. Neither other side approached by Roma yesterday were interested in paying that amount. The others also have the money and Liverpool don’t. You are simply looking to deflect away from Liverpool again.}

6.) 19 Jul 2018 14:55:57
Liverpool don't have the money but have agreed a deal lol
I trust FSG who have been running the Red Sox for years not to bankrupt us or do anything silly to remotely put us in danger
No deflection here just very happy we have finally bought a world class keeper
here here fsg and klopp.

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool don’t have the money - you realise they have been paying £79M a year for players purchased years ago? Debt is rising - they are spending against loans and future income.}

7.) 19 Jul 2018 15:15:30
Common sense really, when you have the best manager in the league you back him. Under Klopp we've gone from midtable finishes to two European finalists in three years and cemented a top four place. Klopps keeping his end of the bargain and the owners are keeping theirs. What a time to be an LFC supporter.

8.) 19 Jul 2018 15:19:50
I prefer your normal response Ed. What happened to not discussing money?
Football clubs and the finances are of no interest to me. I'm supporting my team not playing Championship manager.
All I see is Liverpool signing big players and the club extending the stadium.
THE owners are aware of Ffp so let them worry about how they balance the books.

9.) 19 Jul 2018 15:23:58
These prices that we are paying are outrageous. It's not my money, but still. Yesterday, I mentioned that the price for Alisson is beyond crazy but I'd people arguing with me. For years, I haven't agreed with Ed02 saying we want to buy the league, but it looks like that's what we want to do now.
I think the club is lucky with the stature that it has. We can easily do a Rangers (I assume illiquidity is a reason for their relegation, but I may be wrong) .

10.) 19 Jul 2018 16:28:57
Klopp identified Alisson as the keeper he wanted. Roma set the fee that they would be willing to let him leave for, and we agreed to pay it. Simple. It is a massive sum of money, especially for a Goalkeeper. But something is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. Above, other posters have been bringing up over inflated transfer fees that other clubs have spent on players, and Ed002 has rightly stated that this is the Liverpool page so other teams are irrelevant. But, Ed002 also states in one of his replies that other teams weren't interested at the price required to buy Alisson, but as this is the Liverpool page it is irrelevant what other teams were and weren't willing to pay.

11.) 19 Jul 2018 16:46:16
In one sense I understand the whole “it’s not my money thing” except it many ways it is. Tv subscription, ticket prices, replica kits etc etc. We all complain when prices go up yet people keep saying I don’t care how much we pay, it’s not coming out of my pocket. Somewhere down the line it must be coming out of our pockets, no?



17 Jul 2018 12:45:09
Ed2, I may have misunderstood but, in the sharkopod, you suggested that Gomez may have difficulties with game time. Could you expand on what the problem is?


{Ed002's Note - There is no space in the side for him and he does not appear to even be second choice for any of the positions.}

1.) 17 Jul 2018 14:03:01
Thanks Ed, that's slightly surprising, I thought things were going well for him. Hopefully he can play himself back into contention.

{Ed002's Note - He needs to be a regualr starter and I would expect Alexander-Arnold to be the regular starter at RB going forward.}

2.) 17 Jul 2018 14:11:25
Ya think. Trents Liverpool's rb now.

Gomez needs to stay fit first and foremost.

He would of been in the England squad, and playing if he was fit.

3.) 17 Jul 2018 14:14:42
I also find it quite surprising Putney. TAA and Fabinho will cover RB, mainly TAA unless he picks up an injury then we'd probably see fFabinho drop to RB. So that makes Gomez 3rd choice for that position. LB - Robbo, Moreno, maybe even Milner before Gomez? which makes him 3rd/ 4th choice.

CB is where I want to see him get some games this season rotating with Lovren. I just can't imagine Matip and Klaven ahead of him? surely not. Matip simply isn't good enough, Klaven is 32 and had his chances throughout his career, now it's time for Gomez to have his chance imo, at such a young age he deserves his chance, if he doesn't get it I see him going elsewhere.

Fingers crossed for the lad, I think he has a lot to offer.

4.) 17 Jul 2018 14:53:03
Klavan is proven and did a good job last season when reprising for the first choice CB's, if the defense stays with the same players I'd much rather see Klavan used again than take a chance with the unproven Gomez. For me Gomez should get cup matches and sub appearances if we are well ahead.

5.) 17 Jul 2018 15:06:23
I didn't even think it was that clear cut Salah. I thought Gomez only lost out to TAA at RB because of his injuries. Irregardless, I thought Gomez was going to be our second choice at CB with a chance to take Lovren's place as a starter. I still have high hopes for the lad. If Square Tomato sees this I'd love to hear if you know anything.

6.) 17 Jul 2018 21:45:22
Yeah Mcgoveb, Klaven is indeed proven, why? because he was given the chances he deserved throughout his career, you don't end up a proven player without been given a chance which is why Gomez should get his now otherwise he's never going to get anywhere is he? if he isn't going to get his chance with us I'd expect him to leave.

Klaven is now 32, Matip is to be quite frank crap, if they are put before a youngster like Gomez I'll be very surprised.

Putney that's what I imagine too, for him to eventually take Lovrens spot, maybe the 19/ 20 season as long as he get's plenty of game time this season I see that happening, fingers crossed mate.




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06 Aug 2018 13:15:32
Kirby, it's not as simple as you make out. There are certain players who will go to clubs expecting to be first choice, others will be content with a lesser role. Shaqiri is happy because of his situation with Stoke. Mahrez had been desperate to leave Leicester for a couple of sessions. Other players wouldn't be ok with what those guys have been offered. Brandt famously rejected us because we couldn't offer first team football.

Yes we need a strong squad but getting a bench full of players as good as our starters is not realistic.




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01 Aug 2018 07:16:12
Zed, not a huge fan of what you're implying there. Going to Barcelona, even as a back up, is a big deal and something to be proud of.




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18 Jul 2018 07:02:54
Klopp had plenty of previous with telling a player one thing and doing another, Ward is particular already knows about it. Either way, both Karius and Ward now know for sure that Liverpool will replace them if we can, they both know they're replaceable.




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11 Jul 2018 13:13:56
There's a lot of affection for Wiji but I can't be sad at the prospect of him leaving, there's simply no need for him. Over the last two years he's fallen down the pecking order and he only played so often last year due to injuries to others. I wish him well at his next club.




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07 May 2019 23:31:34
Cheers guys, I said this team had nothing to great from any other on the world. Bloody Hell!




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22 Aug 2018 19:24:46
God bless to you too ST.




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21 Aug 2018 12:46:27
Last night want a game for our players to look good, office were organised at the back and dangerous on the counter. I'm pretty delighted how everyone performed.




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20 Aug 2018 12:38:21
Wishing you a speedy recovery Salah.




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20 Aug 2018 06:53:11
Alan Shearer, running with one hand in the air, simple, iconic.