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15 Jul 2019 09:46:46
Good morning. Can I ask, are the Eds aware of Manés intentions? He like Salah are linked with moves and if a winger coming on question is asked it's often if Salah or Mané leave. As we know what Salah would like to do and is apparently active in trying to achieve it. Is Mané the same? Is he happy to (basically) finish career here instead?

Kristen

{Ed001's Note - he has not made any waves about wanting to move. He won the Champions League, that was his dream in club football, he has one of his best friends in Keita playing alongside him, I am not so sure he would be actively seeking a move away. Equally though, I don't think he would be rejecting it out of hand. It would depend on if he felt it was right.}


1.) 15 Jul 2019 11:00:16
I don't see any big player moving this season or next. Just from a point of view of if you are going to leave it would only make sense to go to one of City Madrid Barcelona PSG Bayern or Juve, any where else would be a step down for a big player. At this moment all bar City are in the middle of big rebuilds. Bar money I don't see any reason to leave therefore, obviously money is a big factor but from a footballing perspective we are arguably with city the most attractive prospects in world football at the moment surely?


2.) 15 Jul 2019 11:40:07
Making predictions is a foolish idea but I just think Mane is not a galactico. He's extremely shy, and I think his position in our team is perfect for him where he's properly recognised as a match winner and a terrific player, but he goes about his business with minimal media attention and spotlight. I fully expect that he's very content with the life at LFC.


3.) 15 Jul 2019 15:06:04
Thanks ED. He sounds like just a ‘normal’ situation then. I like Mane a lot as a player I’m glad to hear he’s settled and happy.
For me it’s difficult to see if any of our front three are more important than the others. Great situation to be in. I do believe we need cover that’s probably above the academy level but very happy to be proved wrong.


4.) 15 Jul 2019 15:11:12
None of our stars are leaving this summer. Not after a champions league winning season and not with Madrid pursuing other targets. Of our stars only salah might eventually leave (and even then, it would likely only be if Madrid don’t get Mbappe next summer or raise significant funds) . Any rumours you hear stating otherwise is nonsense.


5.) 15 Jul 2019 15:55:41
I don’t totally disagree but I just personally don’t get the ‘not Leaving UCL winners’. Why? It’s really rare to retain that tournament. If we get there again this coming season that’s three finals in a row. Just realistically doubtful. So if players want to taste that again you’d look at Madrid or Barcelona maybe Juve and Man City. As much as I can’t see us losing especially over two legs I also can’t see us retaining. Odds too high. But staying for the Prem title I can see that after last season, depending on how the rivals continue to improve.


6.) 15 Jul 2019 19:14:26
"Not leaving the UCL winners" is the most ridiculous statement I've seen here. Ronaldo won it with Real in 2016/ 17/ 18 didn't he? Will someone remind me where he played his football this season just gone by.


7.) 16 Jul 2019 20:48:39
Irishman, false argument. Ronaldo played at RM for 9-10 full seasons and did not leave them until after winning his FOURTH CL trophy with them so your argument is a dishonest. Maybe Mane wants to win a PL and another CL with us before he leaves or do you not think the argument can go the other way? The fact of the matter is as Ed01 said, Mane won the CL, a dream he had as a kid growing up so yes IMO, he is not agitating for a move at least for this season. Next season may be different. Same foe Salah.


8.) 17 Jul 2019 11:57:36
If he's achieved his dream maybe now he thinks its exactly the right time to move on. Leave a winner. Take off the Liverpool tinted glasses and realise that this is a job to players. If Mane, Salah, Bobby, Virgil or Allison think a move is right for them then they'll push for it. Don't be kidding yourself that it's any different with our players.


 

 

 

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24 Jul 2019 18:06:06
Questions for ED001 if you have the time. I know you're a Liverpool fan too. Just your opinion

Is Klopp foolish to rely so heavy on 'The front 3' Salah/ Firmino/ Mané especially as all had a busy summer and apparently knackered already.
Or are the back up of Origi and unproven youth more then enough cover?

Should we expect or need a new starter quality player to come in, given the high we're on is this the best time?

Lastly,
Can you see another formation or style change again, mainly due to the front options to begin with. Similar to how last season changed from the previous super fast attack attack?

Thanks.

Kristen

{Ed001's Note - foolish? No, what top team isn't reliant on certain players? Are Barca foolish to rely on Messi? What else can you do when you have players of that quality? Players don't want to join to be back up when they are of a similar quality, they won't play regularly enough to make it worth it.

There is not really anyone around to come in and take anyone's place, so we can't do much to be honest other than add cover.

The formation will be adjusted to suit the player's available, even when you have the same formation, the moment you put a different player in one position it will change because they play differently.}


1.) 24 Jul 2019 18:38:56
There's only a handful of players around the world who can make this team better. It's no coincidence we've reached the Champions League final twice in two years. We are that good. This being said though the options from the bench are hit n miss. This is where we are weaker than City/ Juve for example. But I think our first 11 is better than anyone all day long and I expect us (without injury) to go close if not win it again.


2.) 24 Jul 2019 18:49:47
It's funny how people phrase questions to suit their beliefs, "Foolish" eh? There's this bizarre notion amongst some fans that the club isn't spending because they simply don't want to spend or that they're not doing so because they're resting on their laurels.

If the right player is available the club will spend big, we saw that with Van Dijk and Alisson. If the right deal is available the club will also go for it e. g. Shaq. What the club won't do is spend money for the sake of it. Right now the deal or player isn't there. We're coming off a champions league winning season with all of our players at fantastic ages. They'll be natural improvement. As for the front three, Brewster, Origi, Shaq and the Ox all provide cover. Not to mention the possibility of a change in formation.


3.) 24 Jul 2019 18:59:07
Thanks ED001. Yes I agree how other coaches rely on certain players and it’s common. But then coaches like Pep have high quality cover. Aguero/ Jesus Sterling/ Sane for example as he expects to win it all. Even at Barcelona since you mention Messi, it’s also about that they have Suarez Griezmann Coutinho Dembele and Malcolm into two other slots. What’s common is both teams are seen to be at the top and expect to win the lot.

Yes I’d expect style to adapt to players available or opponents like each season. But there was a dramatic imo change from last season to previous. We ground out results sat on leads and played mature like champions would, previously it was 4-0 up at half time either ending 5-1 or 4-4 (not matter of fact)
I think it caught many by surprise and wondered if we’d revert back to the quicker tempo but now knowing we can defend a lead.

Are our front three on a promise? I’m finding it difficult to believe the massive egos in football players like Pepe or Werner (examples as been heavy linked) don’t believe they can replace Firmino or Salah. Both we know are irreplaceable but they both went through droughts and bad patches. Isn’t that when the next superstar takes over?

{Ed001's Note - Pep did not buy Jesus or Sane as cover, he bought them to replace the aforementioned players and tried very hard to sell them. Now he is instead struggling to keep Jesus and Sane happy with Sane refusing a contract offer.

Again Barca went years without those players and brought them in as replacements, which has not worked out in Dembele or Malcom's case and they are trying to get rid of the flops. Coutinho is irrelevant he was brought in for a totally different role as a replacement for Iniesta, but is unable to play the role and so they want rid of him too.

Werner has no interest in moving to England, he wants to go to Bayern. Pepe would but paying that kind of sum for injury cover for Salah makes no sense, especially when the player is known to lack maturity and could be a problem if out of the team. You don't sign a player like that unless you are certain he is going to be first choice.}


4.) 24 Jul 2019 19:37:06
Playing Devil’s Advocate here a bit, but if Klopp complains about the amount of football that players face is a solution not to have high quality rotation?
The amount of minutes that the front three completed last season was very high and you wonder that, at some point, it is inevitably going to catch up with them?


5.) 24 Jul 2019 19:44:24
Thanks ED that makes perfect sense. Appreciate your answers.

And in reply to Eamonsf, a question normally has to give at least two options minimum, it’s not my belief that Klopp is foolish. He is the best coach no doubt.
I also think Origi is good, and trust the internal hype of Brewster. But I also know there is a well known belief in about standing still is like regression. A new face for a new buzz or competition can be refreshing. So I hear.

I think expecting the same players to go to a third CL final or eclipse last season points and repeat another title winning (in any other season) without injury or equivalent replacements will divide opinion.

{Ed001's Note - very welcome. If there was the right option available the club would move for them don't worry.}


6.) 24 Jul 2019 19:57:49
You’re a gem as always ED. Appreciate your site and time.

{Ed001's Note - cheers Kristen.}


7.) 24 Jul 2019 19:59:48
I seem to remember us beating Barcelona 4-0 without Firmino and Salah.


8.) 24 Jul 2019 20:25:13
Ed would you not say Barcelona are foolish to rely on messi?

{Ed001's Note - what else can they do? Until they find someone to replace him.}


9.) 24 Jul 2019 21:18:21
My god. That is all.


10.) 24 Jul 2019 22:07:26
Sorry ed, i should have been more clear. they now have Griezmann who can win matches when messi doesn’t, Suarez. I guess they tried with Coutinho and dembele but hasn’t worked out. My point is it’s bad to rely on one player or a select few. We didn’t rely on any of the front three when we beat them in the semi, the team beat them. If someone stepped up from Barcelona and had a good game when messi didn’t show up, they wouldn’t have lost four nil.

{Ed001's Note - I get what you are saying but they have always tried to bring in players to fix that but none of them worked out.}


11.) 24 Jul 2019 23:39:44
Fair play Kristen.

And I see what you're saying The Juicer but top players aren't interested in rotating. Sure the odd game maybe, but they want to be building up their stats. Look at Kane at Spur's, every time they try and bring in a player to rotate with him they end up getting no minutes as he insists on playing. Lewandoski has brought up the same issue at Bayern. City often rotate their stars but those same stars are now demanding out, over game time. The only reason City managed to bring in those players at all was because they were told they were replacements.


12.) 24 Jul 2019 23:11:24
I think we’re slightly agreeing ed, it was just the comment you made ‘are Barcelona foolish to rely on messi’ to which I was thinking yes they are!


13.) 25 Jul 2019 01:22:32
I know what the OP means about us changing our style a bit from two seasons ago to last. I think it is partly because we couldn't defend until we got trent, van djike and robertson in. And more so since alisson joined. We had to score three goals to feel comfortable. As lovren matip and clyne and moreno could ship 2 goals in 5 minutes, and did a lot.

Now we are a more complete team that doesn't have to destroy another teams tactics to win a game. We are good enough to implement our style on pretty much any match. So instead of the constant high press and counter attack, we can build from the back. Our midfield have cracked it, whoever plays, and the front three will score goals if you set them up.


 

 

21 Jul 2019 00:17:20
Hey EDs. Would you have any information surrounding Naby Keita? I'd be interested to know how the signing is viewed within. Is he seen as a good purchase or poor.

Any activity in moving him on by the club or interested clubs looking to purchase.

He didn't seem to show enough for me compared to the billing. The permit stuff is laughable and we are not short of covering the midfield. Personally I hope to hear we are talking to clubs as he offers little compared to others that maybe purchased as an alternative.
In fact Ox looks twice the player and Naby right now would be lucky to get a bench seat.

Kristen

{Ed002's Note - From my perspective it was not a good signing. Liverpool paid a significant holding fee for a tear and then returned to pay a significant fee and to find he had spent a uear behaving as a complete jerk and had got himself a very serious conviction. They will work out the English issue. I agree that AOC would be a more reliable option.}


1.) 21 Jul 2019 09:29:00
I feel if he doesn't make huge improvements this season he has to be moved out. If last year doesn't act as a learning curve for him then it would clearly show a major attitude fault. But personally I'm really optimistic that he can grow up and start to show the ability we know he has.

Big season for him though, make or break naby.


2.) 21 Jul 2019 09:28:44
A conviction for what ed?

{Ed002's Note - Fraud - but he got his fine cut down from €415k to €215k and the rest suspended.}


3.) 21 Jul 2019 10:19:15
He has really surprised me with his attitude, he should of been doing everything in that year he knew he was coming too acclimatise too the country the culture the language, he should of been excited too do this also, I am with the above in that if he doesn't show improvements this season he is out on his arse .


4.) 21 Jul 2019 13:22:33
I feel Naby is a super talented player who as we aw last season when fit and having a good run of games, is phenomenal. I do think he has to adapt to the PL quicker and of course, fix his off-field issues ASAP cos regardless of how talented many of us think he is, those off-field issues will definitely hold him back. As we have seen at LFC since Klopp arrived, no passengers are allowed and if you can't get on the train, you'll be left behind for good. Here's to hoping he can make the jump to the next level.


5.) 21 Jul 2019 13:49:34
We didn't exactly need him did we. I hope he does well and proves everyone wrong but tbh I think he's flopping already, For every Allison there is a Karius.


6.) 21 Jul 2019 15:23:05
Talent isn't as important as mind set tho if you aren't willing to work harder then everyone else you will be left behind at the very top they all have talent

Naby needs to cop on learn English and work his socks of or he will be moved in to a lesser team next season I feel.


7.) 21 Jul 2019 13:36:33
Ed002, fraud for Keita having a fake drivers license?

That is what I can recall reading about a while ago.

I seriously hope Keita can sort himself out as he is a very good player but if he keeps on mucking about then LFC have wasted loads of cash signing him.

Perhaps he needs a blow on the head via a 16lb hammer to sort his head out?

{Ed002's Note - It was rather more complicated than that.}


8.) 21 Jul 2019 18:50:13
I thought was a bad move from day 1. I remember him throwing a strop in training and cleaning out the Leipzig captain. Everything kicked off because of his petulance and that was just one of many examples where his attitude came across as poor. Never mind his lack of professionalism or effort, never mind the stupid outfits and disrespectful comments. He went and got multiple red cards in his final season actually damaging the club's season, and as Ed002 said, a serious conviction which drags his club's name through the mud.

If he would just grow up he could be brilliant but I don't think Klopp will tolerate it. He didn't with Sakho. I think we'll end up losing a lot of money on Naby and I can't see him ever justifying what we paid. Rose tints off, he's been a huge mistake and needs to pull off a major U-turn to get things back on track.

I have a lot of faith in Klopp's ability to get the best from players, but they have to want to learn. It's Keita I have no faith in. It's gutting when you can see the talent but some players waste it. Unless you are Ronaldinho good, you can't get away with being a complete tool.

Sorry if people think this is harsh but the amount of money these blokes get, I don't think I have to accept anything less than maximum effort and good behavioir from the players at the club representing us all. It's embarassing that he can't even pass a basic English exam when he knew he was coming here 24 months ago.


9.) 21 Jul 2019 20:56:26
Everyone will be eating their words come the end of the upcoming season, watch him go. Attitude wise yes, he needs to sort that out and if anybody can it'll be this team/ Klopp.


10.) 21 Jul 2019 21:34:38
I get exactly what you're saying plain bread and you're not wrong. But I think it's fair to give him a fresh start, he's acted immature for sure but he arrived as a 23 year old on a long contract with plenty of room for development both as a person and a player. If he wastes another year then yes I'd lose all belief in him. We've seen with klopp that when guys like sakho, balotelli, markovich maybe clyne don't apply themselves he will exclude them. When or if the time comes that klopp has had enough we'll know. I have full trust in kloppos judgement.


11.) 21 Jul 2019 22:13:17
I think all depends on whether he's going to be injury-free this season. If he remains injury-free then everyone will have had a look and see if his on field output is worth all the trouble. History has shown us that many clubs put up with a lot of nonsense if a player's performance on the field warrants looking the other way. Not a question of right or wrong, but just what I have noticed. If his performances are not better than Wiji's or Hendo's (I see him as a CM) then I expect quite a few eyebrows being raised.


12.) 21 Jul 2019 23:14:53
Agreed salah, way too early to write him off. He hasn't even had a run in the team really. When he did get a run he started scoring. People say we need more goals from midfield, he is a guy who can give us goals. I love Aoc too btw and look forward to him starting.


13.) 21 Jul 2019 23:29:37
Yeah Henderson, Lucas leiva were examples of players we wanted out after poor start to their careers. Even bobby firmino was bang average in his first season.

{Ed025's Note - and still is har..


14.) 22 Jul 2019 00:01:55
Is that the copa america and european champion firmino ed025?

Amazing player.

{Ed025's Note - hes a good player robbie, goes missing at times though and was not all that last season imo and subsequently is not first choice for his country, but performs well in the klopp system mate..


15.) 22 Jul 2019 09:45:39
Respect your opinion Ed025 but he doesn't actually go missing his role is to drop deep taking players out of position to allow for more space for other players within the team. He does allot of the dirty work so others don't have to but yes he fits perfectly into klopps system.

{Ed025's Note - i thought he was great the season before last seosamh but was not as effective last campaign, still a good player though mate..


16.) 22 Jul 2019 19:13:01
Wingers wouldn't scpre as much without bobby.


 

 

28 Jun 2019 22:19:21
Good evening EDs and all. General question that popped into my head following Ketas injury while on international duty.

Has a club ever requested or had a clause when signing a player they cannot play international football?

Is that even possible?

If it has never been done could you see it happening? Especially with the transfer fees paid. 200m for a top top player as a buyer you'd not want them out of action especially not in your control. I recall a manager or maybe a post here? Where it was stated a player was injured playing for England (again) and that the training methods and coaching was far lesser then the players club and it was that situation that caused or led to the injury or mismanagement of it. (Might have been Sturridge under Hodgeson)

Or is this a laughable idea? Do clubs get just as much out of a player at that level being an icon for their country (shirt sales, media and marketing exposure) .

Kristen

{Ed002's Note - No, clauses such as that are not allowed. Occasionally clubs have protected players (Giggs is an example) and minimised the number of international games.}


1.) 28 Jun 2019 22:57:44
Thanks for your time. I was thinking and should really have mentioned in the op, I was thinking more Ronaldo type transfers then Mbappe.
Mbappe is young and would be unfair and unrealistic to expect to not play for France. But Juve pay 100m plus super wages and at 34 if he got taken out playing for Portugal, leaving a season out or an injury which would effectively limit his playing level, thats where Id think clauses would come into play.
But yes thats all irrelevant following your answer. Tgabjs again.

{Ed002's Note - That is where insurance comes in to play.}


2.) 29 Jun 2019 06:38:55
Hi Ed,
Could you shed any light on how some clubs protect players?
Thanks.

{Ed002's Note - As an example, Manchester United agreed with the WAles national set up that Giggs would not be used in all games and he would be "rested" for most friendlies.}


3.) 29 Jun 2019 16:33:04
Im sure i remember a few years back that we received some compensation from the FA because Gerrard picked up an injury in a friendly at around the 75th minute mark but it was agreed that he would be subbed at the 60 minute mark (which never happened)

{Ed002's Note - Mainstream international sides have insurance for injuries - but nobody claims on minor injuries - like nobody claims for a minor issue in the home. If it is more significant a claim is made via the international insurance that is maintained by international side - and you are right, against (I think) France picked up an issuette and compensation was paid whilst SG was playing for England.

However, there has always been a beef with African countries who have insufficient or no insurance meaning any significant issues mean the clubs have to suck it up or use their own insurance.}


 

 

 

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26 Jul 2019 13:27:55
Very good ED. We will see, we springboarded quite well after a Europa final loss under a good manager just getting his ideas imbedded. I think Arsenal can improve a lot from last season.

Kristen

{Ed047's Note - I wish I could argue with Ed01 but sadly I can’t, mainly because she would kick off! 😂


 

 

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25 Jul 2019 19:03:17
I’m siding with Maaaa. Harvertz for me over Sancho. For then bench mind you.

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25 Jul 2019 19:00:09
Hopefully add Grujic into our squad next year too 23carragold.
Yes I’m still optimistic. One looping headed goal has kept me going for years.

Kristen

 

 

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25 Jul 2019 18:56:04
Sounds like a good deal. Didn’t need him but it has strengthened close opponents.

Kristen

{Ed001's Note - no he has joined Arsenal, not a close opponent.}


 

 

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24 Jul 2019 23:20:50
I never know what to make of youngsters in preseason. Jones looks good enough for some game time but not surprised if rarely see him again.
I remember watching a fantastic Grujic a couple of preseasons ago. Enough that ever since I still hope.

Kristen

{Ed002's Note - Keep in mind the games aren’t everything the coaches see. And oft forgotten is how the youngsters fit in with squad, if they have confidence, if the confidence needs reigning in, how they deal with making mistakes.}


 

 

 

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24 Jul 2019 19:57:49
You’re a gem as always ED. Appreciate your site and time.

Kristen

{Ed001's Note - cheers Kristen.}


 

 

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24 Jul 2019 19:44:24
Thanks ED that makes perfect sense. Appreciate your answers.

And in reply to Eamonsf, a question normally has to give at least two options minimum, it’s not my belief that Klopp is foolish. He is the best coach no doubt.
I also think Origi is good, and trust the internal hype of Brewster. But I also know there is a well known belief in about standing still is like regression. A new face for a new buzz or competition can be refreshing. So I hear.

I think expecting the same players to go to a third CL final or eclipse last season points and repeat another title winning (in any other season) without injury or equivalent replacements will divide opinion.

Kristen

{Ed001's Note - very welcome. If there was the right option available the club would move for them don't worry.}


 

 

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24 Jul 2019 18:59:07
Thanks ED001. Yes I agree how other coaches rely on certain players and it’s common. But then coaches like Pep have high quality cover. Aguero/ Jesus Sterling/ Sane for example as he expects to win it all. Even at Barcelona since you mention Messi, it’s also about that they have Suarez Griezmann Coutinho Dembele and Malcolm into two other slots. What’s common is both teams are seen to be at the top and expect to win the lot.

Yes I’d expect style to adapt to players available or opponents like each season. But there was a dramatic imo change from last season to previous. We ground out results sat on leads and played mature like champions would, previously it was 4-0 up at half time either ending 5-1 or 4-4 (not matter of fact)
I think it caught many by surprise and wondered if we’d revert back to the quicker tempo but now knowing we can defend a lead.

Are our front three on a promise? I’m finding it difficult to believe the massive egos in football players like Pepe or Werner (examples as been heavy linked) don’t believe they can replace Firmino or Salah. Both we know are irreplaceable but they both went through droughts and bad patches. Isn’t that when the next superstar takes over?

Kristen

{Ed001's Note - Pep did not buy Jesus or Sane as cover, he bought them to replace the aforementioned players and tried very hard to sell them. Now he is instead struggling to keep Jesus and Sane happy with Sane refusing a contract offer.

Again Barca went years without those players and brought them in as replacements, which has not worked out in Dembele or Malcom's case and they are trying to get rid of the flops. Coutinho is irrelevant he was brought in for a totally different role as a replacement for Iniesta, but is unable to play the role and so they want rid of him too.

Werner has no interest in moving to England, he wants to go to Bayern. Pepe would but paying that kind of sum for injury cover for Salah makes no sense, especially when the player is known to lack maturity and could be a problem if out of the team. You don't sign a player like that unless you are certain he is going to be first choice.}


 

 

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28 Jun 2019 22:57:44
Thanks for your time. I was thinking and should really have mentioned in the op, I was thinking more Ronaldo type transfers then Mbappe.
Mbappe is young and would be unfair and unrealistic to expect to not play for France. But Juve pay 100m plus super wages and at 34 if he got taken out playing for Portugal, leaving a season out or an injury which would effectively limit his playing level, thats where Id think clauses would come into play.
But yes thats all irrelevant following your answer. Tgabjs again.

Kristen

{Ed002's Note - That is where insurance comes in to play.}