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07 Feb 2023 18:07:33
A bit of noise going on that Liverpool have come to some sort of agreement with BD for Jude Bellingham, whether that's possible with a pre contract I don't know. Chelsea and PSG tried a similar option but was denied by JB.

KizLFC

1.) 07 Feb 2023 19:05:36
Surely city will still make a move for him ?.


2.) 07 Feb 2023 19:34:34
Age of Average starting XIs Premier league 2022-23.

Fulham 28y 238d
West Ham 28y 147d
Spurs 28y 351d
Liverpool 27y 351d
Newcastle 27y 301d
man city 27y 213d
man utd 27y 074d
everton 26y 242d

Arsenal have the youngest starting XI at 24y 246d, just copied from Premier League stats on LFC channel.


3.) 07 Feb 2023 20:09:19
Our prob 007 I think is we have too many teenagers and too many over 30.not enough in the 26-29 age group.


4.) 07 Feb 2023 21:45:05
Agree with that Digger - a lot of kids with potential and a lot of older players who have, sadly, seen better days. There’s a gap between 24 - 28 for players in their prime in our starting 11. Another problem is our natural leaders are into their 30’s and aren’t always starters too - in particular Hendo and Millie.

We are at the low end (hopefully the bottom) of a natural cycle, but acknowledging that does make it much better.


5.) 07 Feb 2023 21:54:40
stats are a funny thing aye. I'm not trying to detract from the point but the median squad age gives a better account for lists like those as it accounts better for outliers. here:

Arsenal 23
Spurs 23.5
West Ham 24.5
Liverpool 25
Everton 25
Fulham 26
ManU 26.5
City 27
Newcastle 28

Liverpool brackets:

17-19 7
20-24 9
25-29 9
30+ 8

They're all just numbers anyways and we can interpret away. e. g., how many of the teenagers / 30 yr olds actually play? vs Wolves we had 3 30yr olds, but are we really not playing Thiago and Mo? Just the one teenager in Bacjetic who is there on merit (imo)

anyways, this is for me why we can't just look at the raw data or an average and draw sweeping conslusions about the club. We all agree it needs a refresh, but for me it's not just cos we have a bunch of 30 year olds ahahaha.


6.) 07 Feb 2023 22:06:01
Hello Faithinworks, Nice to have a different perspective and approach, think at the end of the day we both agree the most important stats are your actual match scores versus your opponent on the day.


7.) 08 Feb 2023 09:41:18
Bellingham will need assurances that other players come in surely.

{Ed002's Note - There is no agreement for Bellingham.}


8.) 08 Feb 2023 09:45:49
As I’ve said before, the team isn’t THAT old just to capitulate in a few months beyond recognition. There’s more to our problems than that I think.


9.) 08 Feb 2023 11:17:49
The deeper you get into it, the more you think, and maybe realize, that there must be deeper inside issues on various fronts that have caused such a rapid descent in quality. To me it's clear it is not just the players.


10.) 08 Feb 2023 11:23:05
Bellingham wants to play for Liverpool and Klopp, Klopps only worry is if we aren't sold we won't get him.


11.) 08 Feb 2023 12:25:16
Cant see us getting Bellingham, we will win a few games alright when we have a full team out, but until then, we are heading for the bottom half of the table,
sorry lads and lasses,
I see a draw with the Bitters, getting another 3 goals against us at Newcastle, while other teams getting a win and a draw maybe,
we will have to wait till Big Virg comes back .
we just can't defend a free kick or corner without him,
we have no leader .
but its not all doom and gloom, its all about next season,
we will be so much stronger .


12.) 08 Feb 2023 15:36:27
Surely man city might not be able to bid for any players in the coming summer transfer market hopefully?

Just been thinking i would not have cared a toss with this season's results had we won the quadruple last season, as i would still have me hangover!


 

 

05 Feb 2023 22:48:51
Rumours that Steven Gerrard has been asked by klopp to join his coaching staff. No idea myself.

KizLFC

{Ed025's Note - neither has stevie.. :)


1.) 05 Feb 2023 23:11:27
Maybe joining the coaching staff to try and carry Pep's ego around?


2.) 05 Feb 2023 23:18:09
? It's amazing what a good win does for the spirit Ed025. Hopefully you'll be miserable again next week. ?.

{Ed025's Note - i dont really do miserable BILL, but at the moment i do resemble a cheshire cat mate, mind you derbies can go any way..


3.) 05 Feb 2023 23:23:47
I can’t think for one moment what the logical point of bringing in a failed manager like Gerrard would be. Isn’t it bad enough that we have Pep Pulitzer on the coaching staff.


4.) 06 Feb 2023 00:05:30
Two jobs, won a title in one of them, hardly failed.


5.) 06 Feb 2023 00:40:40
If you think egos are the problem Baz, Gerrard is the last person we should hire, especially in the context of Liverpool. I don't even know what the point of adding him to the coaching staff would be. Most reports suggest he was more of an "overseer" type of manager, leaving the training sessions to Gary MacAllister, Michael Beale and Neil Critchley. His Aston Villa side lacked any kind of playing identity. What exactly could he offer to Klopp when the actual coaching, training and tactics is not his forte?


6.) 06 Feb 2023 06:38:09
Derbies can go any way? They’ve been going only one way for about 15 years.


7.) 06 Feb 2023 07:20:08
The last thing this club needs is a manager with an ego bringing in another coach with an arguably bigger ego. Doomed before it starts.


8.) 06 Feb 2023 08:25:42
Won a title in Scotland with one of the two sides who always win titles isn’t much of an achievement. Even Bodgers managed that, Jude. There’s no reason to have Gerrard at the club other than sentimental nonsense. He’s been found out at a higher level.


9.) 06 Feb 2023 08:38:50
It's what I would do if I wanted Lijnders to get the hint, and nudge him, to move out? Plus see if Gerrard has the potential for the top job when Klopp moves on? At least there's some movement to shake up things a bit, since what's going on at present is not right by all accounts. If all this is true, of course.


10.) 06 Feb 2023 10:04:22
By that argument dirt if City win their 6th title in 7 years come May has the Premier League not become Scotland? and in managing Villa was he not managing the equivolant of St Mirren? What did people expect, for Villa to become a top 4 team cos Stevie went there? Behave. As i said he's had two jobs, not going to be perfect by any stretch. can't really see how it could make us any worse than where we are now.


11.) 06 Feb 2023 11:08:10
I'd hold your gloating for now Thunderbird2, given how bad we've been this year.


12.) 06 Feb 2023 13:21:40
No thanks.
If we are going to bring in a new coach then bring in someone up and coming who deserves the spot based on what they have done in coaching, not from what they achieved as a player.


13.) 06 Feb 2023 13:49:00
SG would probably still get in our midfield.


14.) 06 Feb 2023 21:08:42
Why would we want SG back at Anfield? we have enough programme sellers already!


15.) 06 Feb 2023 21:46:51
Hello Eds and fellow posters, My apologies for posting two negative replies tonight the reason being?

I receive my monthly aerospace company pension on the first Monday of every month, when i and my fellow work colleagues all retired in 2015. There is still about 20 of us left who regularly meet first monday every month, we have a £30 each Kitty to start off with and also use loyalty cards, we said we would meet in MO's on Great Charlotte Street next to Weatherspoons every first Monday in the month at Midday, unfortunately i would say 007 has rather over indulged on the whisky so will say Nighty Night, look forward to seeing you all again fit and able hopefully.

Mrs 007 has just brandished a Red Card to me that means i have to go to upstairs to Bow Bows sadly! she has never been the same since Dyche won his first game!


16.) 07 Feb 2023 10:18:14
Fully fit and raring to go to me daily swim and gym in the town centre it's the quayside hotel that a certain Mr Hicks use to conduct his interviews from.

Forgot to add yesterday that i have never seen so many blue and white bob hats in the city centre like yesterday though it was very, very cold that was the obvious reason for it i suppose!

Dyche has said LFC "BLOOD" and efc "SWEAT" is what he wants on the efc shirts next Monday night, i am backing LFC to put "TEARS" on the efc shirts as well!


 

 

02 Feb 2023 21:12:25
Heard Firmino has signed a new 2 year contract and has took a reduction in wages.

KizLFC

1.) 02 Feb 2023 21:26:49
Fook me. That's where we are.


2.) 02 Feb 2023 21:53:14
Awesome. That keeps us enough cover to sell Jota for £40m to fund one of the 27 midfielders we need in the summer.

Although maybe Henry will just eat the money for his breakfast or something, since that's what he does instead of buy players according to the Brain Trust here.


3.) 02 Feb 2023 22:02:17
Fine by me. Easy to forget he already had 9 goals this season and I imagine he is a popular figure in the dressing room.


4.) 02 Feb 2023 22:13:36
100% I would not sell Jota.

He has proven to be a prolific goalscorer last season. Something we definitely need more of in the squad. He’s also versatile and can convert multiple positions up front.

He’ll be back playing this month and I honestly think (if he stays fit) he will have a huge positive bearing on our season. You can hold me to that if you like.


5.) 02 Feb 2023 22:18:51
Jota is too injury prone I like him but I’d sell him!


6.) 02 Feb 2023 22:34:10
Great news is true. might be a declining player but he still has some gas left in the tank and is perfect as a backup and mentor type player to all, notably o the South American players.


7.) 02 Feb 2023 22:44:27
Daily dose of reality. Jota signed a new, improved contract in the summer.


8.) 02 Feb 2023 22:48:16
Got me there SR so I'll just pretend that I was replying to Jay ?.


9.) 02 Feb 2023 23:29:12
Not joking about selling Jota though. I forgot about his recent deal, but that just protects the value. ;)

It's not that I don't rate the guy, it's that we've bought 3 players who play striker or left wing, the positions he plays in the space of 12 months. And Diaz and Nunez imo are better players than him.

How many forwards do we need? If we count Elliot as a forward we have 7 first team ones, plus Doak and Carvalho. That's a lot when we're struggling in midfield and should probably start thinking about a center back soon. It's value that could go elsewhere in the squad.


10.) 02 Feb 2023 23:45:36
@SomethingRed ??. For quite a lot of people on here there seems to be no distinction between FSG and Liverpool FC let alone between Henry and FSG.


11.) 03 Feb 2023 00:24:41
I don’t see how you say nunez is better than jota as nunez hasn’t really lit the world on fire since he joined. Also in his debut season for us, he scored 9 goals in the league and 4 goals in the champions league, whereas nunez has scored 5 in the league and 3 in champions league but has missed more chances than anyone in the league. Nunez still has time to score more goals this season but at the moment, I wouldn’t say he is better than jota as he’s not anything to make me think he is.


12.) 03 Feb 2023 00:36:46
Great news if true! If we are thinking about Gakpo playing the false 9 (which in the limited games I’ve seen him play he seems to suit more that the left side) then there is nobody in world football I’d prefer him to learn from than Firmino.
I have this feeling that Nunez will end up on the left, Gakpo in the centre and Diaz on the right. When we’ve looked good this season is when Bobby played with Nunez running in behind from the left and Salah from the right.


13.) 03 Feb 2023 04:25:36
I wouldn't mind Firmino signing a new deal on reduced wages actually. I still feel he offers something different compared to our other forwards.


14.) 03 Feb 2023 07:04:51
I think we miss him massively

His style of play of dropping off and playing a bit deeper suited our style / dragging defenders out of position and breaking lines

Now we just seem to stand up against the opposition defender and wait to see what happens.


15.) 03 Feb 2023 07:06:32
He still has loads to offer - probably won’t be a guaranteed starter but great of the bench or replacement when we have injuries.


16.) 03 Feb 2023 10:12:33
For me it all depends on how much his wages are. If he’s on a low wage then fair enough but if he’s dropped say 10k a week then no he would have to go.


17.) 03 Feb 2023 11:28:19
Lads it's not a game of football manager why do people try to bargain with players wages on here ?? let's just say it's good that he's signed an extension ??.


18.) 03 Feb 2023 12:31:38
Jota comfortably out scores Nunez and Diaz from the left wing on current evidence. Can also play centrally with impact.

I’m torn on the Bobby situation.
Love him to bits but are we not just making the same mistake again by giving an injury prone 30+yr old a new contract on pretty decent wages to be 5/ 6th choice attacker. He can also only really play centrally so that limits again his mins.
Would the money be better off elsewhere?
We’d still have Salah, Nunez, Jota, Diaz, Gakpo, Carvalho, Elliot?


19.) 03 Feb 2023 12:32:05
Same people clammering for new signings in transfer window are happy to have bobby sign up again. should of gone 2 years ago. injury prone to fook. well don't be surprised if milly signs a new contract also. Maybe even nabby yet. Shocking.


20.) 03 Feb 2023 12:42:16
We are over stocked in the forward department when everyone is fit. That’s Diaz, Nunez, Firmino, Jota, Gakpo, Salah then Carvalho, Elliott and Doak. That’s 9 forwards for 3 places. If Bobby is getting a new contract I see 1 if not 2 forwards getting sold. It’s safe to say Diaz, Nunez Gakpo, Carvalho, Elliott and Doak are not getting sold. That leaves Jota and Salah as potential outs. Gakpo is not versatile or fast enough to play as an outside forward, which can also be applied to Jota and Firmino. That’s 3 forwards, actual 4 forwards when you include Nunez fighting for 1 position as the centre forward, although Nunez can comfortably rotate with Diaz on the left. Also Carvalho was used in the number 10 role just behind the forwards and also in false 9 role a lot at his time at Fulham, so that could be 5 forwards fighting for 1 position.


21.) 03 Feb 2023 13:14:19
Overstocked have you seen other squads mate there is very little difference. I certainly do not understand anyone thinking Liverpool are overstocked in any position. Have you seen our injury record we need 3 players for every single position.


22.) 03 Feb 2023 13:58:51
NicolBecker. If Gakpo, Firmino, Jota, Nunez and Carvalho are happy to essentially fight for one spot, then I’m happy as we would have competition in the forward positions. Problem is Gakpo is 23 years old and was a starter at his previous club and also a starter for his country. I don’t think he would be happy having his game time significantly reduced, seeing as he would be ineffective playing as an inside forward. Firmino is a different case and causes us no issues off the field so he would be happy rotating and having his game time reduced. But he is similar to Gakpo in that he can only play through the middle in a false 9 role.

Jota needs a run of games to get going and like Gakpo and Firmino is ineffective player as an inside left forward and is definitely not starting over Diaz and Nunez on that side. Nunez is a starter and so is Diaz. That means Nunez would be playing the majority of games through the middle with Diaz on the left. Where does that leave Carvalho? Especially if we bring in 2 midfielders with one being Bellingham. Bellingham would occupy that advanced midfield role and is young himself and ain’t coming to sit on the bench. We also need to figure out what to do with Elliott in terms of his best position. Good thing with him is that he can also rotate with Salah on the right but his other position would be the advance midfield role, granted we have a solid defensive midfield, which would then see 3 players fighting for that spot in Bellingham, Carvalho and now Elliot. I agree with you that having competition is good like our competitors but having several forwards who are not versatile enough to play across the front 3 forward positions is not and may cause us issues with several unhappy players.


23.) 03 Feb 2023 17:10:26
Good news. He offers something nobody else in our forward line really offers.
No idea why everyone is so desperate to cling onto Jota though, he’s not a great fit in the team, and he’s fell right down the pecking order on the left (Nunez, Gakpo and Diaz are ahead of him)
And through the middle (Nunez and Gakpo)
You could argue Jota is better than Firmino through the middle (I wouldn’t say he was overall but there you go) but the key factor is he can be sold for half decent money because he would do well elsewhere, Firmino won’t go for good money anywhere at this stage in his career.
So it makes sense to sell Jota and use the money to strengthen other areas.
We’ve got a really strong forward line on paper and have some promising youngsters emerging as well so Jota is surplus for me.


24.) 03 Feb 2023 17:42:11
“and he’s fell right down the pecking order on the left (Nunez, Gakpo and Diaz are ahead of him) ”

How have you came to that conclusion?

It wasn’t that long ago our front 3 back up options were Origi, Shaquiri or Minamino. Klopp is on record saying recently he needs to build 2 teams.
6 forwards plus youngsters is required.


25.) 03 Feb 2023 18:23:56
Most of our players get injured even the ones that rarely get injured before joining. That to me is the most suspicious thing.

{Ed014's Note - have you employed the Arsenal physio


26.) 03 Feb 2023 19:31:00
Salah is going trust me and funds will be used to purchase another lame horse.
All this may change if the yanks finally decide to sell.


27.) 03 Feb 2023 21:25:12
I’d have Firmino over any of our strikers now. They are all terrible. So yeah, sign on Bobby. Great player. He might be declining but he’s been decent this season and better than Salah or Nunez.


28.) 03 Feb 2023 21:37:27
Why are people always so keen on getting rid of players who don’t make the starting 11. It’s a squad game these days. And why can’t people accept that there is a drop off between being a regular starter and, for example our third choice option to play on the right side of midfield? We can’t expect (or afford) all squad players to be the best in the world. It doesn’t work like that.


29.) 03 Feb 2023 23:03:31
Pipe down west half the team needs 2 go and klopp 2 its time 4 a change.


30.) 03 Feb 2023 23:34:49
I respectfully disagree MrHamstring. I respect your opinion but it’s not one that I share.


31.) 03 Feb 2023 23:51:28
Once again people miss the bigger picture. Do you not understand that these people work together every day they don’t just come together for 90 minutes on match day.
Keeping firmino is not only for what he can do on the pitch but his influence and experience off it.
We’ve already lost some big characters that might not be first choice but had a big role to play in the dressing room.
I don’t know Bobby but I’m guessing he’s well liked and seems a model professional. A good guy for the new young strikers to learn from.


32.) 04 Feb 2023 00:11:53
I see no problem with Bobby staying nor any reason to sell Jota. We finally have attacking depth (baring current injuries) to rival City which we have been whinging about for ages and now people are talking about thinning the ranks. I don’t get it.


33.) 04 Feb 2023 00:49:10
The best part of this thread is why his wages got anything to do with it?


34.) 04 Feb 2023 01:17:50
@Mrhamstring - nice insight and very well put. Of course if you hang on long enough the whole squad will need replacing.

Back in the real world ….

@Scouse John, spot on - from a fans’ perspective wages have no relevance as we aren’t being asked to chip in every month to pay them. The numbers bandied about are just I’ll informed guesswork anyway but it helps some people to prioritise a neat list of the value they place on players and hence how much they deserve to stay at the club at any given time. As an example around this time last year there was a fair number of people saying Salah was worth £ 300kna week and we should sign him up forever. Not quite the same this year.


35.) 05 Feb 2023 00:28:17
You can't give contracts to players because they are 'good in the dressing room'.
Firmino was a great player, but he's injury-prone, he's fallen down the pecking order and is the wrong side of 30.


36.) 05 Feb 2023 10:26:34
Firmino was not injury prone, nor was Jota. Now they suddenly are.

What is going on in training because it is like a C.V. and rarely incurred during match day.


37.) 05 Feb 2023 11:46:35
Just when ye think can it get any Worse! ask yourselves this one question would Firmino get a regular starting place at any top, top club in Europe now or in the future?


38.) 05 Feb 2023 17:30:15
@Willo, the club can give contracts for whatever reason it sees fit, including members of the squad being a good influence off the field. I take the inference that you wouldn’t give Firmino a contract and that’s fair enough but it seems the club (and me, if I’m being honest) don’t agree with your opinion.

@007, I asked myself the question and the answer was ‘no’. Then I asked myself ‘So what? ’ As we don’t know the terms of his contract the original question is probably irrelevant as I’m fairly sure his contract doesn’t include home being a certain starter for Liverpool, which is all that’s relevant.


39.) 05 Feb 2023 22:17:45
This is a long thread all based on Firmino signing a new contract. Only snag is, he hasn't.


40.) 05 Feb 2023 23:38:35
Party pooper KBL.


 

 

23 Jan 2023 09:20:55
Don't shoot the messenger but I believe Nat Phillips is on his way out of Liverpool as they have received a transfer offer.

KizLFC

1.) 23 Jan 2023 09:31:14
That would be a shame, I thought there was a place for him, particularly with VDV being injured and our form. A no nonsense CB is probably what we needed.


2.) 23 Jan 2023 09:32:38
Thanks Mrs Phillips!


3.) 23 Jan 2023 09:55:20
Rhys Williams is reportedly being recalled from Blackpool as cover until van Dijk is back.

I like Nat, but it's clear he has no first team role at the club. Better off with the money.


4.) 23 Jan 2023 09:58:17
Good news for all concerned really. He needs to get his career going and we get some money for him. Good luck to him he’s never let us down.


5.) 23 Jan 2023 10:15:27
Thanks for the intel Kiz. Where have you got this from please?


6.) 23 Jan 2023 10:16:39
This happens every single transfer window, then we put a daft price tag on his head that no one wants to pay or block his move at the last minute. Poor lad will be locked back in the basement again come February. We did the same thing with Origi until he eventually left on a free.


7.) 23 Jan 2023 10:21:00
Thats good then, should cover part of the Gakpo transfer. Good work FSG.

{Ed001's Note - FSG have nothing to do with transfers. Why does this idiocy still persist?}


8.) 23 Jan 2023 10:27:28
Anyone know when vvd is due back?


9.) 23 Jan 2023 10:42:27
He needs first team football. Good luck to him.


10.) 23 Jan 2023 10:43:33
Bang!

Shot the messenger.


11.) 23 Jan 2023 12:16:18
Ed001 I know Williams is only a young kid but I hope he get nowhere near the first team as I think the lad will be lucky to make it as a league one player.

{Ed001's Note - I expect him to go back out on loan or be sold mate. He is unlikely to get near the first team.}


12.) 23 Jan 2023 13:28:49
Shouldn't have signed the big new contract if he wanted to play more. All for a fella backing himself but he was delusional if he thought he was getting game time ahead of Virgil, Joe, Matip when they were fit.


13.) 23 Jan 2023 13:55:53
any Idea how Rhys Williams has been getting on at Blackpool,

i always thought he lacked a bit of pace to be really top class.

I hope Nat Phillips gets a good move the lad always tries his upmost and deserves to kick on with his career.


14.) 23 Jan 2023 19:24:33
Thought Phillips would have made a good 4th choice CB option with Matip being injured regularly and no spring chicken. Deserves the chance to play regularly elsewhere though. Hope we don’t hold him back further by asking for silly money. He’s what 25, 26 now? Needs to move on.


 

 

15 Jan 2023 10:31:28
Hearing LFC have informed Keita and his reps that a new deal is not on the table and he is free to leave in the summer. Similar news has also been told to AOC.

KizLFC

1.) 15 Jan 2023 10:40:05
All 3 years to late.


2.) 15 Jan 2023 10:47:00
Given they only have half a year left on their contracts, I assume they'd have been told this already.


3.) 15 Jan 2023 10:56:40
I think that has been inevitable for some time. They should have been moved on 2 summers ago.


4.) 15 Jan 2023 11:08:05
Exactly. LFC are not proactive. They wait until the inevitable happens and persist with it. There's no foresight and no preemptive action.


5.) 15 Jan 2023 11:43:23
With both of these I am not sure much could of been done other the cancel their contracts.

The club would of weighed it up and decided it was better to keep them around the cancel and then have to replace. We have money but not to the levels we're you can just throw it away! I don't think there was any substantial interest in either to get them off the books through a sale.

It may have been the wrong decision but hindsight is a wonderful thing.


6.) 15 Jan 2023 11:53:14
I genuinely see Klopp quitting before the summer. Possibly after the wolves game next, there has to be a midfield signing to boost everyone including him.
He looks a broken man, look at the state of that bench yesterday, it’s all a complete mess.


7.) 15 Jan 2023 11:55:07
Keita should’ve been sold 2 years ago when he still had some value. People talk about the fitness issues, but even when he has played - I’ve rarely been impressed with him over 90 minutes. He’s got a moment in him, but that’s it.


8.) 15 Jan 2023 12:15:13
Yet another midfielder leaving on a free.


9.) 15 Jan 2023 12:36:24
LFC 8 - why would Klopp quit? He’s the one that’s given more responsibility to Linders.


10.) 15 Jan 2023 12:49:33
State of the bench is partly Klopps fault too.


11.) 15 Jan 2023 14:01:42
100% I agree it’s also Klopps fault. It’s more Klopps fault than it is Linders.
But we all want Jurgan as our manager right? I’d have him over all the players!
We just don’t want the mistakes he’s making in the transfer windows. 2 midfielders in this window and this all goes away. It’s not complicated, I just think his stubbornness, pride and loyalty is killing us.
You was wrong so what, just spend money on the midfield!


12.) 15 Jan 2023 15:16:11
His arrogance won't allow him change anything. We're screwed one way or another until new owners arrive. If new owners arrive.


13.) 15 Jan 2023 15:22:39
Shame he didn’t leave much sooner. Then again would we have recouped any of the fee we paid? His value must have dropped from the £60 odd million we paid to zero the moment he stepped on a pitch for us.
Absolutely garbage signing and absolutely garbage player. What a complete waste of talent.


14.) 15 Jan 2023 15:24:38
Agreed. We all love Jurgen so are looking for a way to deflect blame. Let's stop pretending Linders is overriding Klopp a decisions. Klopp has first and final say. I want him here for as long as possible. But let's give Linders a break. His sessions or his book are not the reason Fabinho can't run despite being only 29 years, Salah can't beat a player, lack of spending etc.

{Ed001's Note - actually, the Fabs and Salah points are very likely to be down to the training. As are the injury problems. Nobody is saying Klopp is being overridden anyway, so why spout lies? Not one person has ever suggested it that I have read.}


15.) 15 Jan 2023 15:29:35
I heard a stat about keita yesterday. He’s played 123 times for Liverpool and only finished the 90 mins 18 times. Shocking if true!


16.) 15 Jan 2023 16:03:12
Klopp has to be accountable, where we are on points and in the league is not representative of the team out there. So much needs to be reviewed. If he can’t turn things around I’m afraid he’s going to be shown the door. I love Klopp but all things come to an end. It can’t continue like this. Same tactics, same high line, all things that aren’t working.


17.) 15 Jan 2023 16:29:59
I'm no football expert but I would like Klopp to try another coach if Linders can't deviate from his style of training. It's been great as it's won us the Prem etc however, we seem to have played the same way ever since. I liked the way we played when Buvac was there.


18.) 15 Jan 2023 16:42:05
I’m as worried about us in possession than out of it which I never thought I’d say . It’s just all to predictable. I think it has a lot to do with ljinders and not adapting to the opposition’s play . We should be better than wer we are if it was champ man but it’s not and some of the players need to take a good hard look at themselves.


19.) 15 Jan 2023 18:45:56
Very few people know the exact role Ljinders plays behind the scenes, so abusing him is just brainless. He was there through the good times!

With regards to Liverpool not being proactive enough in getting rid of players - AOC and Keita have been available for transfer for years, but no one wants to pay their wages. There was no interest. Similarly with lots of other players including Origi.


20.) 15 Jan 2023 19:25:38
He’s having an input and klopp being klopp isn’t changing it!
Linders needs to shut up and remember he’s just a assistant.


21.) 15 Jan 2023 20:54:24
Every club arrest their rot by sacking manager and installing a new one. Does the Liverpool and klopp fans think it will be any different? C'mon its end of an era, let's move on. We are first and foremost Liverpool fans, we are fond of klopp because he won us success, but uf he bring us failures, then we have to part for good of Liverpool club.


22.) 16 Jan 2023 02:10:05
@lky, and there have been many clubs who sack managers and fall even further. Ridiculous to say that we should sack Klopp to improve our situation.


23.) 16 Jan 2023 05:24:31
Personally, I believe Linders book has upset club karma. It can only be balanced by a new Linders book called 'Humility'.


24.) 16 Jan 2023 16:43:40
Hahahaha, sack Klopp. There are some numpties on here.


 

 

 

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22 Jan 2023 08:31:35
Good morning, Liverpool are involved in takeover talks with officials representing the Qatar Investment Authority, the sovereign wealth fund of the Gulf nation. Happy Sunday.

KizLFC

1.) 22 Jan 2023 08:39:06
Since gas prices went up, the Qatari's are sitting pretty.
They can find 250m down the back of the sofa, no worries.


2.) 22 Jan 2023 09:05:24
Being my usual sceltical self, what’s your source Kiz?


3.) 22 Jan 2023 09:20:25
Can they own PSG and LFC at the same time?


4.) 22 Jan 2023 09:33:16
Google! Few reports.


5.) 22 Jan 2023 09:40:13
The hope of a full sale is fading away, it’s either FSG wouldn't want a full sale or nobody is interested in the valuation. Both ways we are well and truly ducked!


6.) 22 Jan 2023 09:53:12
The sale of something as large as this club takes more than a few days to sort out. Not sure how that equates to the club being "ducked".
Are you an Everton fan on the wrong page?


7.) 22 Jan 2023 10:11:30
I don't believe the 'fading away' stories either.

Basically when FSG made their statement there were 2 options. Full sale or look for investment.

There are now a bunch of 'journalists' taking a punt on a 50/ 50 and hoping they are right so they can claim some clout. And by guessing they know they will get reactions and clicks in the meantime, and if they are wrong they will say things changed.

There is a lot of noise made by few who know the square root of FA. Try to ignore it until the club indicates which way its going.


8.) 22 Jan 2023 10:19:05
We are into month 5 since the takeover news first broke out in October. Hardly a few days! IF FSG wanted a sale they would have done that already. They are in no rush and why would they be? €700 mill in revenue, A manager whose a YES man, club paying of its own debts on stadium and other expansions lol.


9.) 22 Jan 2023 11:07:26
Is that you see Klopp, Hulk?


10.) 22 Jan 2023 11:33:32
Is there anyone left on this site who’d like them to stay? Be interested to find out.


11.) 22 Jan 2023 12:10:54
The other wonderful Sunday rumour is the old classic, Sander Berge. Im sure FSG release this every transfer window just to wind us up!


12.) 22 Jan 2023 12:06:56
Dont think any LFC fan sees Klopp as a yes man!


13.) 22 Jan 2023 12:18:27
Sander Berge?
He's a midfielder, we need a midfielder, so what's the problem?


14.) 22 Jan 2023 13:04:17
I wasn't expecting to see the Sander Berge link for another week to be honest.


15.) 22 Jan 2023 13:44:03
Whats the problem? Have you seen him play? Reckon Jude will love partnering Sander Berge in midfield.


16.) 22 Jan 2023 13:47:01
It's all just lazy journalism. I don't get why we put so much weight into rumours and get upset over them. The fact is that no one knows exactly what's going on behind the scenes. It's all guesswork at best.

Btw, am I the only one getting Harry vibes from Hulkamania? Posts full of hyperbole and incorrect statements must be him, right?


17.) 22 Jan 2023 17:30:30
So it's FSG releasing the rumours now?
And anyone seeing Klopp as a "yes man" has his finger as far away from the pulse as is possible.


18.) 22 Jan 2023 19:04:48
Hulkamania 5 months? Do you make this crap up in your head and convince yourself it's true. It was announced early November so a little over 2 months ago. Chelsea took over 3 months to sell and that was a distressed asset with a deadline. They're were plenty of suitors for them so they're will be plenty of people looking into buying liverpool. But as edo2 has repeatedly said a sale of this size will take time. Maybe by the summer .


 

 

29 Dec 2022 19:10:13
R. I. P Pele, one of the greatest of all times, sad news.

KizLFC

1.) 29 Dec 2022 19:17:08
THE greatest of all time. ??.


2.) 29 Dec 2022 22:52:02
I agree ArAy. Literally changed the game.


3.) 30 Dec 2022 09:06:22
"Football was invented for him", The Legendary Bobby Charlton. RIP, El Rey Pele.


 

 

13 Nov 2022 07:34:05
Mukesh Ambani is apparently favourite to land Liverpool, in fairness out. of everyone rumoured to be interested, he'd be my choice.

KizLFC

1.) 13 Nov 2022 07:58:05
We'll be linked to many more billionaires around the World by the time this plays out. I'll take everything I read on the subject with a pinch of salt.


2.) 13 Nov 2022 08:37:35
Depends who you read as it sounds like it’s between Steve Ballmer the Microsoft multi billionaire or vulture capitalist Stephen Pagliuca. Quite honestly, Pagliuca should not be let anywhere near the club given the frankly appalling manner in how he does business, he would be extremely bad news as it would be a leveraged buyout with debt raised against the club for the club to pay back, like Glazers and H&G. If it’s true that Ballmer is making an offer he would be our best hope as he’s literally the 10th richest man in the world and would be buying outright.


3.) 13 Nov 2022 10:10:13
Isn’t Ambani the a8th richest man in the world?


4.) 13 Nov 2022 10:28:55
Not sure he’s actually interested or made an offer WDW. Seems like a random name as the parties mentioned were US based and nowhere else. Unless Ambani is US based.


5.) 13 Nov 2022 10:44:19
I personally don’t want more American owners, fsg have been good but tell me another club where they work?


6.) 13 Nov 2022 11:45:36
Nationality and origins shouldn't matter. Intentions and action plan for the future of the club, do. Fingers crossed that we get the best intentioned owners.


7.) 13 Nov 2022 12:33:01
Ambani being interested, if true, would be a good news. Though Ambani is an astute business man. He has not run Mumbai Indians (MI) like a typical business. Largely because he is a big sports fan, especially cricket fan. His gain is largely through the free publicity he gains through owning the most successful brand in IPL. He might be interested in gaining worldwide publicity through a global club like ours. If example of MI is to go by, he would do anything to make Liverpool win more. This could be a great win win for both the parties.

On another note, confirmed news is that Jr. Ambani is a football buff and though he follows Arsenal, has deep respect of Klopp and brand Liverpool. ( typically the case in India, as LFC and Arsenal fans are often in the same boat over last 15 years ?) . Looks like he is the brain behind Ambani's interest and really trying to onboard Sr. Ambani.

I sincerely hope that they pull it off, definitely over Bain (have worked in similar businesses like them, and reality is, all they care about is direct money and benefits, and do not go for indirect benefits like Ambani might be looking for, or the Arab sheiks typically look for.

2. His son is supposedly a football buff and childhool Arsenal fan.


8.) 13 Nov 2022 13:23:12
Ppl wanting ambani just from watching them develop ipl side they will build an insane scouting system and unearth gems won't spend unless absolutely required. so in essence sane as fsg. they won't spend like city or paris.


9.) 13 Nov 2022 13:28:29
If its a leveraged buy out what's the interest on £4 billion? Anyone know?


10.) 13 Nov 2022 13:32:33
LB031, in IPL there is a cap on expenses, so they can't spend whatever they want. But they are doing what best they can to win, under those circumstances as they have the desire to win. that's what they would bring, a winning mentality. We can't say for sure if they would be like FSG in terms of spending habits. But surely, they would not be after direct monetory benefits if they happen to own our club.


11.) 13 Nov 2022 13:47:28
Neo, the worst thing about Bain/ Pagliuca is this bit where aside from getting the companies they take over to take the loans on to pay the loans, they then take further loans to pay themselves dividends before taking the businesses apart and leaving them bankrupt. See what they did to Toys R Us. If they take over I can see #pagliucaout trending fairly quickly.


12.) 13 Nov 2022 14:01:05
Even in the cap where everyone was splashing money unltill the last auction their biggest bid was below 10cr. that's massively low compared to rest.


13.) 13 Nov 2022 14:19:39
Absolutely VVVV, LBO is the worst thing that could happen, not sure why it is still legal. Failure rates are also very high and there are multiple examples similar to toys r us.

LB031. Respect your opinion, i have a different one. May be for some other time (will discuss if ambani becomes a reality and we have a thread on why they are good or bad)


14.) 13 Nov 2022 13:51:33
Steve Ballmer is the 11th richest man in the world at $80.4 billion and is eccentric to say the least. I can honestly picture him getting drunk on the pitch with Klopp if we won the League or Champions League. He would definitely become a fan favourite.

Mukesh Ambani also sounds good. He is the 8th richest man in the world at $94.7 billion. He also chairs and has 45% share in Reliance Industries, which is valued at $229 billion. Out of all the ones mentioned so far these two would be my pick.

Can the Ed’s confirm if both Steve Ballmer and Mukesh Ambani are actually interested in purchasing the club?

{Ed002's Note - You are getting carried away with the worth of individuals and value of funds.


15.) 13 Nov 2022 15:48:57
Didn't Ambani buy the Mumbai Indians and hand them over to his wife to run? Would he do the same here, if he does manage to buy LFC?

{Ed002's Note - perhaps to one of his other wives.}


16.) 13 Nov 2022 17:52:52
What's Bill Gates up to these days? He's not short of a bob or two, just another random name to throw in there.


17.) 13 Nov 2022 16:42:44
Ed2. I’m not getting carried away nor am I that fussed. They don’t pay my bills or look after my family. I’m only quoting what I have read. Whether it’s accurate or not is another matter. My question was and remains whether either were interested.

{Ed002's Note - The problem is that people are only interested in the money. For years Liverpool supporters have craved a wealthy Arab oil baron to buy the club and spend huge sums of money on players. There is a huge difference between responsible investment in the club and team and the short-term pleasure of a quickie in the alleyway behind the bar. I have explained already that there will be numerous parties asking for details of sale or investment, and as I have sad I think a sale more likely. There will then be an interview process, checks on availability of funding, checks on eligibility and suitability then a short list and then perhaps due diligence, final offers and a sale. Right now there will be 8 or 10 contenders done of which will soon be scratched.}


18.) 13 Nov 2022 18:38:48
Ed2. Appreciate the detailed response and I’m with you on the responsible investment. I just hope FSG choose the right people to succeed them. One thing I would love, is for the new owners to invest in the local area in the same way the City owners have.

Now, you are far more versed in the time scales of such a deal. But I can only assume this is not a quick process and won’t be concluded until around April/ May of next year.


19.) 13 Nov 2022 19:41:55
Guy’s, I’ve looked at the richest people in the world list, it’s BS, there’s no Rothschild (owner of pretty much ALL central Banks, IMF, World Bank), No Royalty from UK? You got to be kidding me, priceless diamonds on the Crown, before you get to any other assets stripped from around the globe for centuries. Other Royal families, there’s others I not mentioned that never get on those lists.

Unfortunately we as fans don’t get the say, as long as the new people respect the club, it’s history that’ll be some sort of start. As long as we don’t get owners like Hull did and want to change the name to Liverpool sharks or whatever, you get my gist.


20.) 13 Nov 2022 18:52:33
Ed025, he has only one official wife, and she was very much sitting across the table from me when we were finalizing designs for "official watch of the IPL (Mumbai Indians version) " some 11-12 years ago. (That project crumbled when the IPL commissioner ran off to London) .


21.) 13 Nov 2022 23:59:40
All I know is that Pagliuca must not be given the keys to Anfield. That man will bankrupt us to turn a quick Buck. If his bid is successful I hope the protests start immediately as he and his sort shouldn’t ever be made to feel welcome. Hicks and Gillett were more than enough for one life time.


22.) 14 Nov 2022 08:20:40
Spot on, VVVV. Anything that rhymes with Bain Capital needs to stay well away from this club. You think the Glazers are bad and take money out of Utd (which FSG do NOT do despite all their haters spouting lies about them), just wait and see what Bain Capital will do to us if they take over.

Ed02, I fully agree with you on some LFC fans craving Oil rich states to own LFC cos they want what City and now Newcastle have just for short term pleasure and the "Oh, we need to be able to compete with City" rubbish. I ain't one of them and I actually value all the work we have done to get to where we are with responsible investment by FSG. Can we always do more? Of course BUT it is wh.


23.) 14 Nov 2022 08:22:32
Sorry, pressed send too soon. As I was saying, FSG could have done more BUT for me, it is a wash. They made mistakes and corrected them and got a LOT more right than they got wrong, IMO. We need responsible new owners who will put the club, the fans and the city first and invest accordingly and keep us at or near the top, like FSG and Klopp did.


 

 

08 Sep 2022 20:03:22
I hope it doesn't happen anytime soon, but theoretically if Klopp was to be sacked, who would you want in to replace him? I honestly can't think of anyone who could replace him and do the wonders he has with the current owners we have.

KizLFC

1.) 08 Sep 2022 20:12:08
Has to be Pep, he deserves a chance.


2.) 08 Sep 2022 20:12:09
FSG would need to be smoking the same stuff at Arsenal if they even thought about sacking Klopp.

There’s a reason why some of the best players in the world would consider coming to us, and it’s the same reason why we are attracting record amount of sponsorship and kit deals deals and over the last few years high end competition money for either winning them or finishing as runners up.

And that reason is Klopp.

I’m sure Fsg don’t want all of the above to end anytime soon.

{Ed014's Note - what are Arsenal smoking out of interest?


3.) 08 Sep 2022 20:28:49
Ed014 a dealer never reveals their ingredients ?

It was said in jest mate from when they said it regarding the Suarez bid all them years ago. If they then go and sack Klopp they wouldn’t have a leg to stand on to throw them kind of comments about.

{Ed014's Note - ?? ok mate, no worries ??


4.) 08 Sep 2022 20:57:29
Has to be pep? Is that a joke? Pep linders is no coach! A assistant maybe definitely not a LFC no1 he can stick to writing his books!


5.) 08 Sep 2022 21:10:31
Pep too busy writing more books, the more he has to say the worse we become!


6.) 08 Sep 2022 21:23:19
After 7/ 8 games of this season, and numbers of trophies won, u wrote Klopp off, and Pep deserves a chance?

How much chance you think you're going to give to Pep then? Ask yourself this question.


7.) 08 Sep 2022 21:32:59
I’m certainly not saying Klopp should be going at all. He’s the only manager I have interest in managing the club. But if he ever did leave Pep deserves his chance at taking over.


8.) 08 Sep 2022 21:54:00
Jones red get a grip man seriously linders failed miserably as a coach he’s a assistant at best!
Now stop this “IF” nonsense!


9.) 08 Sep 2022 21:54:24
Why does pep deserve a chance? How did it go for him in his very short stint in charge?


10.) 08 Sep 2022 23:58:10
A few bad results and some of you would want to throw the book at Lijnders.


11.) 09 Sep 2022 02:54:59
Sorry Jones. I misunderstood your reply. But I disagree that Pep deserves a chance. I just want Klopp to stay, for as long as possible.


12.) 09 Sep 2022 06:14:52
@Jay what is it that gets you worried about people who write books?

Who would you have appointed when Shanks retired? Certainly not anybody from the ‘boot room’ they would never have made the grade.


13.) 09 Sep 2022 08:54:12
Only my opinion but I think we could suggest over a 100 managers and the argument against would be that they’ve not proven it at a high enough level as a manager and then there’s Pep who’s not proven it at any level as a manager but would be people who argue that facts first choice.

I’m sure FSG will lean massively into Klopp for his opinion when the sad day of him leaving does come, so if Klopp does think Pep is the man then FSG could follow that advice. But it’s a long way away yet and so much changes in football on a weekly basis.


14.) 09 Sep 2022 12:23:44
If pep wants the job he needs to go prove himself and win titles in some major leagues. Would never happen but…. Jose Mourinho?


15.) 09 Sep 2022 16:36:24
FSG ain’t sacking Klopp anytime soon despite some on Twitter. If he thinks he cannot push us any further then he will do what he did at Dortmund and leave in his own. FSG ain’t sweating it, IMO.

Now where he to leave on his own then, I would take Lijnders and pretty sure Klopp would recommend him too, like he recommended a certain Thomas Tuchel and fought for him to get the job when he left Dortmund BUT don’t let the Chelsea fans know that. They’ll lose their ship, for real.


 

 

01 Sep 2022
New image uploaded to the
Liverpool Player Sightings page entitled, Here

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KizLFC

1.) 01 Sep 2022 20:55:37
Good luck to the lad hopefully works out for team and himself!


2.) 01 Sep 2022 21:11:53
Good luck.


3.) 01 Sep 2022 22:13:52
Insert melwood lean joke here to infuriate.


4.) 01 Sep 2022 22:17:25
Could be a tidy little addition but defs more a Thiago type player than a Hendo/ fab cover which is what we needed more urgently. Elliot had a great game yesterday though but needs to improve defensively if he’s going to play on the right of a 3 as leaves Trent very exposed without Hendo there to cover him M.


5.) 01 Sep 2022 22:35:14
4.5m loan fee and Option to buy included according to Sky Sports 37.5m.


6.) 01 Sep 2022 22:37:17
Is he not a defensive midfielder?


7.) 01 Sep 2022 22:40:16
Not sure one is enough. Hope he stays injury free.


8.) 01 Sep 2022 22:48:10
Ed’s is there an option to buy?

{Ed002's Note - Yes, according to his club. You have to wait for the TMS registration to confirm it.}


9.) 01 Sep 2022 23:12:04
Nor to worry @RedScarface, there’s another window in January ??.


10.) 01 Sep 2022 23:18:10
Juve said, in an official statement that there is an option to buy for €37.5m. I think the lad will be good for us.


11.) 01 Sep 2022 23:34:24
But Arthur is the type of player we were looking for. We wanted a player who could backup and play the 6 and 8 positions. He's always been classified as a holding or defensive midfielder, with a very good passing range from short to long distances. Maybe he won't be as good as Fabs in the 6 slot, and play the 8 role differently from Hendo and Milner, but I'm convinced you get the ball faster upfield with a pass than running and dribbling with it! Even Thiago has always been considered a holding midfielder with great passing ability throughout his career. It's just that with us he is positioned further ahead, due to Klopp's system. Thiago has said that Klopp has taught him how to run with the ball. Maybe Klopp will do the same with Melo? Either way, we have Robbo, TAA, Diaz and Salah driving up the wings. and Carvalho and Elliott driving up and linking through the middle (I'm convinced that's their best position) . And Arthur pinging balls and linking up with the forwards, similarly to what Thiago does. Is he good enough? We can only find out after he starts playing for us.


12.) 02 Sep 2022 01:23:59
We all should be cheering Melo on, and hope he can become a really strong player for us.


13.) 02 Sep 2022 03:21:24
Reminds me a bit of Lucas Leica from the little I’ve seen of him. Certainly a good option to have which improves our midfield overall.


14.) 02 Sep 2022 05:03:52
I honestly know nothing about this lad, hopefully he does well.


15.) 02 Sep 2022 05:36:12
Good luck to the lad and all the best. Seems us and Chelsea picked up chits we got Melo and they got Zakaria. similar deals.


16.) 02 Sep 2022 08:27:39
His nickname should dero be Marsh.


17.) 02 Sep 2022 08:16:33
What's a chit?

{Ed001's Note - it is a memo, normally used to record a debt. You get given a chit if you owe money mostly.}


 

 

 

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05 Jan 2023 22:47:34
Thanks for the reply ed2 mate.

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29 Dec 2022 17:00:03
Rochdale etc. etc. , its a rumours site mate, a site for rumours.

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29 Dec 2022 16:52:32
Apparently we're close to caicedo for £55m, few people think it's already over the line, just waiting to be announced to local media etc. Just saying what I've heard, nothing to do with a twitter tweet?

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29 Nov 2022 12:45:58
Thanks for the Reply Ed and your amazing knowledge, appreciated.

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24 Nov 2022 12:21:20
Not immediate effect sorry, the end of the season.

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07 Feb 2023 16:09:36
Agree MK 100%.

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26 Oct 2022 17:11:35
Broke his back sneezing.

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01 Oct 2022 18:58:19
We're not battering anyone, in any week, that's the problem.

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01 Oct 2022 18:37:35
Turbo " Top Reds " defending a p. poor performance from a team that just can't be arsed anymore. Nothing to defend, everyone's entitled to an opinion.

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01 Sep 2022 15:46:07
I'd say its just passion for the game, and we was all feeling the same way he was.

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