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28 Jan 2022 14:46:03
Ed002, hope you are well as January draws to an end, and you having to deal with us getting excitable about the prospect of Diaz.
Just wondering if you could give an insight where the club are with regard to Homegrown and ClubDeveloped players. With Phillips likely to leave, Ox potentionally looking for minutes, Gomez now 4th choice and Milner nearing his pension.
Thanks.
{Ed002's Note - Liverpool can add one HG and if Luiz arrives then I expect Karius will be removed from the squad.}
Non HG (17)
Adrian
Alisson
Andrew Robertson
Diogo Jota
Divock Origi
Fabinho
Ibrahima Konate
Joel Matip
Loris Karius
Konstantinos Tsimikas
Mohamed Salah
Nobby Keïta
Roberto Firmino
Sadio Mane
Takumi Minamino
Thiago
Virgil van Dijk
HG (7)
Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
James Milner
Joe Gomez
Jordan Henderson
Nathanial Phillips
HG and Club Developed (2)
Caoimhin Kelleher
Trent Alexander-Arnold
1.) 28 Jan 2022 15:31:28
Thanks a bunch Ed
Hopefully we can look to promote some more kiddies in the next couple of seasons.
2.) 28 Jan 2022 15:36:45
Is Jones not club developed Ed?
{Ed002's Note - He doesn't count as part of the rules.}
3.) 28 Jan 2022 16:38:37
Ed watch age is it under 21 or 23? Is nico Williams hg or is he under the age.
{Ed002's Note - over 21.}
4.) 28 Jan 2022 16:42:50
Ed002 I don’t know why the club gave Adrian a contract in the summer seems a waste of a place 3rd choice and am not sure if he is better than some of the younger keepers at the club and it’s not as if you play a 3rd choice keeper to often. Think his on about £60k a week as well.
5.) 28 Jan 2022 16:58:20
Grino, I believe Neco, like Curtis will be considered HG and Club Developed next season, which would allow one of the HG players to leave unless I am missing something.
6.) 28 Jan 2022 17:12:32
Oh and Rhys.
7.) 28 Jan 2022 17:59:28
Not sure if Elliot will count as well as club when he hits the appropriate age. Can’t remember how old he was when he signed him so maybe just home grown.
{Ed001's Note - 16.}
8.) 28 Jan 2022 18:24:08
We must remember that Curtis, Neco, Harvey, Tyler Morton etc are all u21 and we can use as many U21s as we want.
All of them will count as HG and CT when they no longer qualify as U21s as, of the ones above, all were part of the club set up before the age of 18….
9.) 28 Jan 2022 18:33:49
Excuse my ignorance but how is Kelleher classed as homegrown when he's from Rep. Ireland and Robertson isn't 🤔 again excuse my ignorance on the subject 😂.
{Ed001's Note - it is nothing to do with nationality but where they have played their football. Kelleher has been playing in England while Robbo was in Scotland.}
10.) 28 Jan 2022 17:03:39
Ed002 is the oracle 🙌 can I ask what your thoughts are on Diaz as a player?
Thanks for all the time you put in.
{Ed002's Note - Diaz is very well liked as a player but may not be able to immediately adapt - and I am not sure how good his English is. I am sure that eventually it should work out but there is a huge cultural shock coming for the player taking him out of his comfort zone of sunny Portugal with the wonderful seafood and the beautiful girls laughing to move to the grim, wet and cobbled streets Northwest of England where there would be a significant cultural change, overweight tattooed women pushing wheelchairs with kids who look like their brothers, smog, dead & dying pit ponies laying on the street, and only chips and fried curry to eat.}
11.) 28 Jan 2022 21:13:11
Haha, this is so true. Even when I come home from holiday and see all the unhappy grey faces smoking outside the airport I find it a culture shock, so it must be hard for these guys moving over to the UK, especially with C.V. and that person Boris still kicking about.
12.) 28 Jan 2022 21:14:11
Ed002 mate you never miss out on the pit ponies and the fried curry😂.
13.) 28 Jan 2022 21:18:04
Hahahahaha hahahahaha brilliant.
14.) 28 Jan 2022 21:18:40
Hilarious Ed002, hats off for that response.
15.) 28 Jan 2022 21:21:31
Then we should dismantle anfield brick by brick. Then rebuild down here in Wiltshire. Better weather as well. just a thought.
16.) 28 Jan 2022 21:25:45
I take it then ed2 the grafton was your spot on a night out in liverpool.?
{Ed002's Note - I rarely get to Liverpool.}
17.) 28 Jan 2022 22:23:20
Shame that Ed002 - it is without doubt the best city in the world. I can say that with confidence as I have been to most of them in my 30 years of travelling globally with work.
{Ed002's Note - I am not so sure it will make the “best†list.
18.) 29 Jan 2022 01:32:54
Give it a rest KBL. Look we're all Liverpool fans here but that's just lip service. Liverpool is by no means anywhere close to being the best city in the world and it doesn't matter what you set your criteria as. Whether it's the weather, architecture, things to do, cleanliness, culture, history, how fun it is, food, etc., Liverpool ain't coming out on top.
{Ed0666's Note - yeh but isn’t favorite Cities subjective??
19.) 29 Jan 2022 03:46:22
Any city other than Winnipeg is the wrong answer.
{Ed0666's Note - Berlin & Medellin are in the running also
20.) 29 Jan 2022 09:22:08
I've lived in Perth, Melbourne, Wellington and Dublin and done several stints elsewhere, but you really can't beat that tingle you get when going back up to Liverpool. though maybe it's just a side effect of long term smog exposure.
{Ed025's Note - love it stuie..
21.) 29 Jan 2022 12:34:38
Babbitty - it's only lip service if you haven't got the knowledge of many other cities. I have, and despite your comments I maintain what I wrote earlier.
It's got nothing to do with being a Liverpool fan - let's face it BR - there are millions of LFC fans who don't live in Liverpool.
22.) 29 Jan 2022 13:02:04
Depends what you measure a city on I guess. If you value character, energy, strength, music, verve, and humour then it is up there.
I've spent time in many great cities, but always have to come home.
Havana, New York, Berlin, then Liverpool for me.
Also, would always prefer to be in the north. The friendliness outweighs the 1 degree of hotness we lose out on.
23.) 29 Jan 2022 13:48:34
Wuhan anyone?
24.) 29 Jan 2022 14:11:26
Best and favourite are 2 different things Ed. When you have nostalgia and feel at home in a certain place, naturally your fondness for that place will grow in comparison to other places. I would put Liverpool as one of the top cities in the UK scuzzmcboob but that isn't really saying much. Our cities are often a bit drab compared to say some of the capitals of Europe. I know many people idealise London but I can't stand the place.
25.) 29 Jan 2022 19:23:18
LOL Ed002 you're a riot. True we'll need our South American and Iberian players to put a warm arm around his shoulder and reassure him that all the soggy socks and deep-fried pigeon burgers are going to be worthwhile. :)
26.) 30 Jan 2022 03:41:24
Ed002
Can you explain the fried curry please? And I also am interested in the brand of wallop in the pints🙂.
27.) 30 Jan 2022 05:45:31
This thread typifies this site and why I keep reading for over 10 years now, love it 😆
Ed002 should consider a career in comedy, absolutely class.
28.) 30 Jan 2022 03:41:24
Ed002
Can you explain the fried curry please? And I also am interested in the brand of wallop in the pints🙂.
{Ed002's Note - Fried curry is a delicasy in the North of England, and wallop is the leftover spillage from other ales.}
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25 May 2023 13:44:33
Mac Allister is certainly a good player, very tidy, replaces Gini, but I don't understand the hype, (whether some people look at his goal return without realising how many are penalties?) I don't remember people being this excited about signing Gini, and although he may replace Hendo in the starting XI I don't see him having the same leadership impact on the players around him.
I also think a Gini type player isn't enough now, we had Gini when the rest of the squad was good enough to compete, a front 3 that understood each other's game and worked well together, a back line orchestrated by a hungry Van Djik with an excellent Fab in front to protect them, I don't think we have any of those things now, and so rather than a Bellingham calibre player to push the squad back up to title challengers I think Mac Allister is a really good player for a team challenging for fourth, which we will likely be now in my opinion.
1.) 25 May 2023 14:19:13
It’s a start mate. Judgment can only be made at the start on the season.
2.) 25 May 2023 14:20:31
Mc Allister is a very good player. But he alone won’t win the league for us. We need a top class DM and a proper ball winner to complement him.
3.) 25 May 2023 14:31:50
Danish king we haven't finished the season yet stop panicking.
4.) 25 May 2023 14:38:08
Hendo and Milners leadership gets mentioned a lot and how important it is but nothing seems to be mentioned about the amount of times we’ve looked leaderless and poor on the pitch this season with them.
This isn’t a bashing of Hendo as I definitely see a place for him in next years squad and side but he should be getting picked on performances like the rest of the squad.
5.) 25 May 2023 14:57:57
I hope we do get McAllister he's shown that he's a good player. As for the other players we need I'm expecting a surprise signing, bit of a curve ball as the allegedly new sporting director is apparently a specialist in the German market so here's hoping he can find a gem from the bundesliga.
6.) 25 May 2023 15:00:28
I've not seen enough of him play to have a decent opinion of my own but if you are correct and he is more of a "cog in the wheel" type of player rather than a game changer, then that's more reason why I would struggle with Mac Allister + Mount for the same/ more money as we could have got Bellingham for.
Unless we're using the "Bellingham money" for two players who can come in and make a really big impact and elevate the rest of the team and everything around them, then I would rather have one Bellingham than two lesser players.
Any Brightonians here with an opinion on Mac Allister? I remember when we were after van Dijk, a Saints season-ticket holder who I know said to me "he's an absolute Rolls Royce and will transform your back four".
7.) 25 May 2023 15:15:38
I think he’s a brilliant player who’s going to do well for us.
8.) 25 May 2023 15:31:59
People weren't excited about Gini because they didn't know how good he was going to be beforehand. I would have been very excited if I did.
9.) 25 May 2023 15:55:41
He has 6 non-penalty goals playing as a box to box midfielder in a decent team. (12 in total with his penalties) .
For context our highest scorers are Jones and Elliott with 3 from midfield (Elliott does have 2 more that came whilst playing RW in the FA Cup) .
Henderson, Thiago, Keita, Fabinho, Arthur and Milner combined have ZERO goals. Bajcetic has 1. Ox has scored 1 but almost all his appearances including the one he scored in he played in the front 3.
So if you take away MacAllisters 6 penalty goals, yes he does only have 6 goals. However i'd like to think we are a better team and yet our NINE midfielders have 7 goals combined this season; 3 for Elliott, 3 for Jones and 1 for Bajcetic. All of a sudden MacAllisters 6 doesn't look too shabby.
Keep in mind we had European football as well so our midfielders had far more games to score in. So a better way of looking at it, is our midfielders made 257 combined appearances and scored 7 combined goals (roughly 1 in 37). MacAllister has 6 non-penalty goals in 39 games (roughly 1 in 7).
As a side note, what is wrong with him scoring penalties? Salah isn't getting any younger and has missed at least 2 this season off the top of my head. Milner is leaving the club. It can't hurt to have another reliable penalty taker at the club.
So with all due respect Scholes, i think the only person confused about how MacAllisters goalscoring stacks up, is you ??♂️.
10.) 25 May 2023 16:26:48
Why is everyone wanting world beaters to come in as the only way we can compete?
We’ve shown (yet again) in the last couple of months that we are the only team in the league other than City that are capable of going on a long run of wins.
I expect us to be a completely different beast next season even if we sign nobody in the summer.
Nunez settled in with a full preseason, Gakpo settled in, Konate fit and a more settled, Bajcetic fit, Curtis finally showing what he can do, Elliott and Carvalho making an impact with another years experience.
We’ve had a poor season but we’ve finished it extremely well which bodes very well for next season and we will make signings to improve what we have too.
We are in better shape than some here seem to think.
11.) 25 May 2023 16:46:24
Mac allaister is nothing like Gini Wijnaldum. They are just not comparable players.
I view Mac allaister more of a Thiago type player. Maybe a slightly more advanced positionally like Thiago was in his younger days. Maybe not quite as technical as Thiago but far more robust thankfully. Mac Allaisters passing is unreal. He could open the play up even if his pass is not the final assist. He will make us a more dangerous team.
With Argentina he was pressing everywhere. With Brighton, he doesn't seem to press as much. Hope he can replicate his Argentina style over the course of a season.
I'd think he will be unbelievably successful with 2 mobile players alongside him as he is not overly fast. Not slow but not fast. From the current bunch I'd be looking at Arnold, Jones and Bajectic. I'd like to buy another one. I watch a Southampton game recently and I was unbelievably impressed with Lavia. He is strongly in my thoughts now.
Let's see what happens.
12.) 25 May 2023 18:11:20
I think Mac Alister would get a lot of goals in this Liverpool team, he’s a winner.
Of course he’s not perfect and I think there are other types of midfielders that we need their qualities, way More than we need Macs.
Rather than Gini or Thiago I see him as a much better Ox. But he doesn’t replace Henderson of 5 years ago, that’s the kind of energy we need, relentless.
13.) 25 May 2023 17:18:27
If we signed a dog some people would be happy.
14.) 25 May 2023 18:44:26
I'm not excited but give the lad a chance. He's not even signed yet!
15.) 25 May 2023 18:50:48
I don’t think we should compare any player that may sign for us to Bellingham. He is an exceptional player and exceptionally expensive for good reason.
If we use him as the yardstick to judge all our transfers we will be setting the new lads up to fail.
We can still have a good summer and sign good players that make the side much better without Bellingham.
16.) 25 May 2023 19:25:31
I agree with your assessment, Davey Sulls. He is a very good player but we need to bring in other players in midfield to play with and around him.
17.) 25 May 2023 20:29:32
I think the idea is to try to fit 4 of Diaz, Salah, Gakpo, Nunez, Jota into the majority of games next season.
If so we need 2 exceptional defensive midfielders.
Assuming Fab can regain his form, we need another of his ilk. Not sure who that is but I don’t think it’s Mac Allister, Neves, Caciedo, Mount.
Maybe Neuhaus, previously linked but poor few seasons?
For me Tchoumani would be perfect, but would we revisit after failing last year?
18.) 25 May 2023 20:58:51
On August 5 last year, the first day of the new Premier League season, Sky Sports News revealed their “summer transfer window XI”, a line-up of the best buys of the summer as voted for by their viewers.
It had Fulham’s Bernd Leno in goal, Newcastle United’s Sven Botman in central defence and Manchester United’s Christian Eriksen in midfield — no complaints there — but beyond that it went rather awry: Djed Spence, Kalidou Koulibaly, Ivan Perisic, Yves Bissouma, Philippe Coutinho, Richarlison, Darwin Nunez, Raheem Sterling — none of whom has made anything like the impact imagined at the time.
19.) 26 May 2023 01:04:57
@Solid, all that shows is that ex-footballers have no idea about other players or how to put decent teams together. It really, really isn’t just about finding the most expensive player for each position and sending them out onto the pitch.
A number of people on here shouting for Mac Alister / Caicedo were the ones shouting for Bissouma last year ….
20.) 26 May 2023 10:04:23
WDW, that is very true. I saw ian Graham said that there is only marginally over 50% chance that any signing will work out.
People bang on about Ugarte after one decent season there, similarly re Caicedo. Both could flop for different reasons, whilst Lavia at 40m could end up being the best pick of the 3, which is who I'd back.
Its a mine-field, which is why City/ Chelski style spending is absolutely ridiculous.
Accepting that LFC may be perpetual also-rans to City with the odd victory may be part of being a reds fan in this unbalanced day and age. As long as FFP is not implemented, we will be looking for best value, lowest risk signings, especially after the Naby debacle.
12 Feb 2022 12:32:00
I remember in the past Ed002 would often refer to 'the fat kid from bolton' I think in reference to Twitter, but I have never known who he was talking about, if anyone could clarify who this was it would appease my curiosity.
1.) 12 Feb 2022 13:56:36
He was some young fellow, who was what is considered over-weight. He came from somewhere just north-west of Greater Manchester, near Rivington and Winter Hill.
2.) 12 Feb 2022 15:10:20
Thanks BBB I don't know why people were going to Peter Kay for football rumours in the first place.
3.) 12 Feb 2022 17:09:30
I think it was the firm on twitter, spoke nonsense, repeated other sources and sometimes outright guessed. But when he got lucky he claimed he was the oracle. When really it was just some kid behind a screen who loved followers eating his words like they were gospel.
4.) 12 Feb 2022 18:07:02
Cheers WY, i haven't seen any reference to him for a while so atleast it seems peole have stopped paying attention.
5.) 12 Feb 2022 18:07:02
Cheers WY, i haven't seen any reference to him for a while so atleast it seems peole have stopped paying attention.
12 Aug 2016 12:17:47
A question for the eds if you will, not liverpool related, ....
{Ed002's Note - This is the Liverpool page - take it elsewhere.}
14 Aug 2023 22:55:07
How hard is it for people to google? A contract, payment terms and amortisation are different things, none of which are relevant to Liverpool until we agree to sign a player, this page is feeling more like the Chelsea page.
12 Aug 2023 07:10:35
I only have a very basic understanding of FFP but reading what people have written on here over the past couple of days makes me feel like an expert.
07 Aug 2023 18:46:29
Its not purely a geographical issue though, Israel being an example.
31 Jan 2022 18:49:30
Hes behind you!
28 Jan 2022 17:12:32
Oh and Rhys.
17 Aug 2023 07:00:15
Exactly Seano, signing a 3rd choice is awful, I'm still waiting for this Salah lad to turn good, if only we'd got our first choice.
05 Aug 2023 21:31:29
Oh an Carvalho.
05 Aug 2023 21:30:30
7 if you count Melo.
15 May 2023 21:13:46
How is it anti Mac Allister? To compare their stats, didn't share a single opinion just stated the facts, on a post about the comparison between the two players, even pointed out the areas where Mac Allister had favourable stats. Seems like someone else is pushing an agenda, not me, with their anti Jones opinion, sorry didn't realise it was tedious or not allowed to defend our players. Anyone interested can check FbRef and read the stats themselves as this forum is obviously not open for discussion.
15 May 2023 20:49:26
-------Tedious - nobody is interested in yyour anti Mac Allister posts.-------