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17 Jul 2019 00:44:54
The coutinho rumours don’t seem to be going away and seem to be gaining traction on social media and with various media outlets.

This isn’t a question of would you have him back or if he fits the system, I’m just curious if there has been any contact at all between Liverpool and Barcelona or coutinho’s agent?

JK_RED

1.) 17 Jul 2019 06:19:21
There will always be rumours when gullible people are willing to believe them.


2.) 17 Jul 2019 08:24:20
Would definitely have him back, we're looking a creative versatile attacking mid. he knows how we play, he knows the system, knows the club. He made mistakes in how he left, not that he did leave, that was his dream to play for Barca, fair enough. You live and learn. To have those goals back, and the assists he'd get playing with our front 3. We'd soon forget and forgive
HOWEVER, do I think he will come back, not even the slightest chance.

{Ed001's Note - we've changed the way we play since he went, so he doesn't. People make up ridiculous reasons to want him back.}


3.) 17 Jul 2019 08:31:10
I'm curious now to be fair. Have the Ed's or anyone heard of any actual contact between us and Barcelona over a potential move back?


4.) 17 Jul 2019 08:43:36
I don't think Barcelona will loan him when there is a chance to sell him and as it seems they need cash desperately. It doesn't make sense a loan move unless we are actually interested and Coutinho makes it clear that he will not move anywhere elese but Liverpool.


5.) 17 Jul 2019 10:14:48
So just to relay what I have heard the apparent 2 year loan with an 88mil option to but is basically a way for Barcelona to cut their losses and not have to pay us any kore money for Phil because they still owe us. you guessed it 88mil from the original deal the loan is a good way of protecting them selves from any added bonuses the would have to pay should he stay at them and they have any success. As for coming back he’s a very overrated player but he did do a lot at us with a lot of pressure on his shoulders I for one think he would do a great job in our midfield add some goals and play without pressure knowing he doesn’t need to carry us. If he does go missing from time to time wich he did we are more than capable of allowing for that in game with the rest of the quality we have.


6.) 17 Jul 2019 10:27:08
Coutinho will NOT be coming back to Liverpool this window. Sorry. I’m not ITK I just know. Would represent terrible business for the club depending on what we’ve already received from Barca. Can’t see Edwards pushing this one. I’d let it go lads. As Ed says our system doesn’t suit him anymore. He’d have to seriously adapt and I don’t think it’s in his locker. I reckon he’ll end up at PSG as part of the Neymar deal.


7.) 17 Jul 2019 10:40:20
No thanks Phil. You made your bed, now you sleep in it.


8.) 17 Jul 2019 11:33:50
Ed1 I guess we have yes but not massively. he would know what is expected of him.
I'm not one for actually wanting him back, just that if he were to come back, I'd get over it and he'd definitely be a good option. He's a talented player and showed a bit more defensively too in his final years with us.
All hypothetical, he's not coming back, and he wouldn't even start most games for me. Front 3 don't get moved. And ox and Kieta get games in attacking mid.

{Ed001's Note - it has been a major change actually.}


9.) 17 Jul 2019 11:46:51
He wouldn't fit us, would he? Not enough pace to play on the wing, not enough work rate to play in midfield. Suppose if Klopp wants to experiment with 4321 again he might get a look in, but that didn't turn out so well last season, so why would he? PC is a decent player, just not for us.


10.) 17 Jul 2019 11:48:44
Again IF Klopp wants him back, IF, I'm sure he has a plan of how and where he use him. For me personally if it happens or not I'm not overly bothered either way.


11.) 17 Jul 2019 13:07:45
I think you will see Coutinho back with us for 2 reasons, 1) he adds creativity into the attacking midfield, something we haven't replaced, 2) Barcelona still owe us £88 million and they cannot afford to pay that fee to us with their transfer plans. I have seen rumour of a 2 year loan with an option to buy for, wait for it, £88 million. We pick up his wages and then write of the debt after 2 years.
Considering the guy knows the club and most the players it would be a move that adds something to the squad for very little money.


12.) 17 Jul 2019 13:32:05
It wouldn't be for "very little money". It would be for £88 million which is a hell of a lot of money.

We have moved on. We have improved. He is not what we need and I genuinely don't think there is any interest from us what so ever.

If you read the transcript of what his agent said during his interview he said there is no interest.

Lets just forgot Pipco and move on.

Red Sandman.


13.) 17 Jul 2019 13:38:17
Honestly think he is going to PSG swap deal with Neymar and a lot of cash.


14.) 17 Jul 2019 13:41:54
Funster70 and Weston90 posting almost exactly the same post, that's just lazy whoever you are!

How do all these people know how much Barcelona still owe Liverpool?


15.) 17 Jul 2019 15:15:27
Seen a video of him and Bobby which looks like celebrations and congratulations, for someone you've spent the last 2 weeks with while playing for your country, you don't give him a welcome like that.


16.) 17 Jul 2019 15:26:30
Sorry I'm not buying this "they owe us 88 million" BS.

What is the basis of this number? Did someone hack into Mike Gordon's laptop?

Sold more than one and a half years ago, so why would Barcelona have paid less than half of what he supposedly went for? Since when were transfers paid out over five years?

A Twitter troll came up with this and everybody's taking it as gospel . . .

{Ed001's Note - to be fair, no transfer is ever paid in full up front, they are always paid over time. The 88m is nonsense though and includes possible add ons which they would not have to pay if he leaves anyway.}


17.) 17 Jul 2019 15:44:20
Ed001 please tell me there is absolutely zero chance and zero interest Klopp has in bringing him back? Then can we not let anymore posts on him come through please.

{Ed001's Note - I have already said that, Kia Joorabchian has said it, I am not sure why people are still going on about it. It is sad how some people just can't let go.}


18.) 17 Jul 2019 15:58:08
Andy and Ed, agree 100%, our system has changed completely to using a hard grafting midfield to control things, and then the attacking threat coming from our wide forwards and use of the fullbacks. We don’t use a classic playmaker like City do, and we were all the more robust defensively for it last season.

I don’t see this obsession with Coutinho, he’s a decent player but we’d have to change our system to accomodate him and I don’t see us doing that (just like Shaqiri has struggle to fit our style of play apart from the odd game) and its a very expensive move to make if we’re only going to use him in the odd game to unlock stubborn defenses. I’d rather us Ox and Keita thanks.


19.) 17 Jul 2019 18:34:33
I wouldn’t be relying on Ox for anything SGRed, he’s one injury away from disaster.
And people saying Coutinho has become a poor player, he’s had a better season than Keita’s had for us.


20.) 17 Jul 2019 19:28:07
It’s a no from me. There are equally as good attacking midfielders around who have more mileage left in the tank than Coutinho and who would also be better value than what Barcelona want, and also let’s not forget how he left. Personally I can’t see how his back would pass a medical.


21.) 17 Jul 2019 19:30:43
I don’t think Coutinho’s a poor player, he just not longer fits the way we play right now.

We rely on midfielders that can control the game, prevent counterattacks and cover the fullbacks, allowing them to push forward and create dangerous positions and assists. It’s no coiincidence that Trent and Robbo broke all sorts of records last year. Yet we remained solidly defensively precisely because we use the likes of Gini, Hendo, Milner, Keita instead of the likes of Coutinho.

Playing Coutinho would disrupt the balance to the side unless we changed our shape, and I don’t think Klopp will be doing that very often, hence he’d be a very expensive plan B.

Id rather we went for someone like Cornet, who while not as good as Coutinho, would allow us to rest our wingers and replace with a like for like style goal scoring winger without disrupting the shape of the side.

As for Ox and Keita, I’m confident one or both will do well in midfield this season and they’ll definitely add more goals.


22.) 17 Jul 2019 20:21:54
ed001 I don't care if he comes or not. But like you said we have changed the way we play we seem a lot more controlled now rather than the frantic way we first played under we have a lot more control over games. So I do think the way we play now would suit him more. But I don't think we should go back more than anything it sends the wrong message out after the way he acted to get his move. But if he comes he will add more quality to are squad and he can play wide left or the number 10 role so I won't moan and will cheer him on when ever I get to get to the match.


23.) 17 Jul 2019 22:33:51
To say that PC wouldn't fit our system is a little ignorant imo. we drew 7 games last year and lost several in Europe. If we'd changed system in some of those games and had Phil I've no doubt doubt we'd of won a few the lad was world class at liverpool like him or not. Lfc would be lucky to have home back.


24.) 18 Jul 2019 04:02:36
SGRed you hit the nail on the head there I agree with you completely.

Coutinho in our midfield weakens us, everybody is calling for him to sign to play in midfield, he only ever played there 4 or 5 times for us and mostly struggled. He was and still is a left sided forward, he's never shown any form as a central playing midfielder in the past. For me he'd only be backup to mane on the left currently in our strongest 11, and at his age with transfer fee and huge wages it would be bad business for us.


25.) 18 Jul 2019 09:18:20
IF he comes back he definitely wouldn't be first choice in my opinion, regardless of what he's done though i wouldn't have him back. we proved when he was at the club that we are a better team without him, he unblances our mojo.


26.) 18 Jul 2019 18:37:28
He and Dembele have been offered to PSG as part of the Neymar deal so rule them out moving here.


27.) 18 Jul 2019 20:35:32
Guys I hadn't been on the site for many reasons which I won't go into, but must stress to those people wanting Coutinho back.
Do not forget that since he left OFF we changed our style and for TWo seasons since have been in Champions League final. There is no doubt, we are a better team without him. I love him as a player, but that boat has sadly sailed. Let's move on eh?


28.) 19 Jul 2019 13:17:45
His agent has said he is not coming to LFC and Ed has said it won't happen and that the so called "88m they owes us" is complete dross. Moral of the story: Stop arguing over a non-point/ non issue and move on with your lives.


 

 

08 Jun 2019 14:36:55
Hi Ed’s,

I know you’re probably sick of hearing his name but apparently Liverpool have today bid for Pepe of Lille. I think it was ed001 who said we were definitely interested but do any of the Ed’s know if it’s gone further than just interest and have we in fact bid for the player?

Thanks.

JK_RED

{Ed001's Note - I don't know sorry, I haven't heard of anything today.}


1.) 08 Jun 2019 15:39:27
Seems weird we would go for Pepe considering he is a right winger who plays similar to Salah, with how much he would cost and having shaqiri, Wilson (probably will leave) and Chamberlain that can play right wing.
Would make more sense going for someone that can play all across the front line, not just one side of it.


2.) 08 Jun 2019 16:32:51
Unless he is replaceing Salah.


3.) 08 Jun 2019 18:37:10
People here said it was funny to go for salah a rw at roma when we had mane playing rw. Trust the transfer guys at the club, they have earned it.


4.) 09 Jun 2019 17:33:34
Mane was lw before coming to Liverpool, Salah and Pepe both play rw, if we want someone who can rotate with the front three then Pepe is not the player to get.

{Ed001's Note - Mane played on the right mainly for Saints and RB Salzburg.}


5.) 09 Jun 2019 18:14:12
I worded that wrong, but yes he played both RW and LW, were as Salah and Pepe just play RW.

{Ed001's Note - both have also played up front.}


6.) 09 Jun 2019 19:14:03
What I'm trying to get at is that I think we need a player who is just as comfortable playing LW as well as RW/ striker.


7.) 10 Jun 2019 00:56:46
Sometimes we get over fixated on positions and roles players fill. Salah played 10 or 15 times through the middle. Firmino isn't a natural no.9. Mane played right most of his career but is playing his best ball on the left, also showed he can play centrally. Point is, when we attack our front 3 are excellent at interchanging and roaming with unpredictably. So mane of manes goals have been within 10 yards attacking central areas. We never play with rigid structure so any forward with versatility is helpful. Ed mentions pepe can only play right, if that's the case I'd avoid him. Shaqiri and salah looks like they can't play left and origi was always our only option that side and he's better centrally. Pepe makes no sense if he is in the same boat. I'd love Felipe Anderson as perfect fit but that's not going to happen. Cornet seems a sensible choice and I'd imagine if our interest is serious our scouts are confident. I have full trust in our recruitment policies right now.


 

 

04 Jan 2019 00:34:46
A lot of talk about Timo Werner although I can’t see that happening as I doubt he would move unless he had some sort of assurance regarding game time which we can not give. While I would love it to happen and rotate the front 3 when needed, I really can’t see it happening.

JK_RED

1.) 04 Jan 2019 05:54:31
Why can't you see it happening? If Klopp rates him highly enough, and the rumour that he is available for a mere 36mil is true, then I don't see why we cannot get him in. The way it is going, we're going to let Origi, Solanke and Sturridge leave or go on loan. The front 3 can't be starting each match as well. So, some form of rotation is needed to keep them fresh.

Whether or not he chooses our club is another matter but I feel we should at least try to get his signature. As much as I love our front 3, but it will be nice if we can mix things up a bit and add some quality in our attack as well as have different formations to confuse our opponents.


2.) 04 Jan 2019 08:00:55
We need cover for injuries and dips in form. adding more quality to the squad is never a bad thing.


3.) 04 Jan 2019 09:03:50
It’s not happening guys as Klopp is not interested in him. Ed’s has dismissed him arriving, a player we have shown zero interest in what so ever. Also why would he move to sit on the bench. Not happening.


4.) 04 Jan 2019 10:40:52
The reason our front 3 start majority of games and don’t get replaced by Sturridge/ Origi until very late in games is because Klopp doesn’t fully trust the replacements. It was similar with last years midfield but now they are getting ample game time (except Kieta) . Bobby had a drop in form this season and Mane tends to pick up knocks now and again. Salah’s shoulder injury came in our last game of the season last year so if at any other time we could have been in big trouble. The club will average about 45-60 games a season and 4 quality forwards vying for 3 positions will get plenty of minutes of football. It might not be Werner we’re after but another quality forward would not only strengthen us but take the pressure off the front 3. If we lost 1 to a long term injury it would be bad but imagine if we lost 2 of them for any amount of time it would be catastrophic.


5.) 04 Jan 2019 12:02:00
If Timo wants the move then it will happen.


6.) 04 Jan 2019 13:12:18
KingCarlos he doesn’t want the move though mate. We are again just hoping and praying we sign a player who is available but the fact is we have shown no interest in him what so ever.


7.) 04 Jan 2019 13:33:12
DAPred, I just told you why I don’t see it happening, he will want guaranteed game time, and Klopp willl not give him any guarantees.


8.) 04 Jan 2019 17:31:55
Has Timo not already stated he would preder a move to United or is that just old news?


 

 

 

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21 Jun 2019 21:24:04
Hi ed001 or ed002 if you’re around, I was having a conversation with a colleague today regarding the links to coutinho. I don’t want to know if we’re interested per se, it’s more the means of acquiring him if we were interested.

He was saying that he thinks Barcelona still owe us money as the payment would have been split over a few seasons as it was a large transfer fee. My question is if we were interested, could we tell Barcelona to keep the money they still owe us and we could pay the difference?

Not sure if transfers can work like that or if it is possible, I was just curious?

Thanks in advance.

JK_RED

{Ed002's Note - No, that would not work.}


1.) 22 Jun 2019 09:48:18
I highly doubt Klopp has or had any thoughts of bringing Coutinho back.

We are better off without him anyway.


2.) 22 Jun 2019 10:39:56
Too right we are max.


3.) 22 Jun 2019 12:02:29
I disagree. If he had never been a liverpool player we would all be buzzing about him joining. It won't happen but i hope it does.

Just the sort of player to nick a goal from thirty yards against a stubborn Leicester or Utd. 2 points. Premier league. Not as black and white as that i know. Id love him to come back. He fought for his move to barca, well, vvd fought to come here, so did keita, mane. You can't blame him for wanting to fulfill his dream and play for Barcelona. But dreams are rarely as good as they seem.

If it happened i hope we welcome him back. From a dressing room of egos to a dressing room of European Champions.

{Ed001's Note - I wouldn't be buzzing about him joining so that is just nonsense. We went up a huge level because of getting rid of him from the team, in large part. He is not suited to our style of play.}


4.) 22 Jun 2019 12:31:24
Fair enough ed01. Each to their own. But we seem to be looking for a creative midfielder who can also cover the forward positions. Pipco can do that.

We went up a level the season he left but he did play half that season and was pretty good. It may be we got better because he left but it may be a coincidence, the team were clearly progressing even when pip was still here.

I loved our style this year. Solid defence, world class keeper, an industrious midfield who provide a platform for the front 3 who provide most of the creativity, along with the fbs. But, if klopp is looking for a creative midfielder, and considering how hard klopp fought to keep him, doesn't that suggest that klopp thinks he can work in our team?

Remember the fab 4? Not john and co. They were class before coutinio left.

{Ed001's Note - he wasn't pretty good! It was not a coincidence we improved when he left, his play was selfish, it was always his issue on the ball. 45 shots from ridiculous angles and distances. Most overrated player Liverpool have ever had and just shows how desperately poor the side was after Suarez left that people go on about him so much. He has very little creativity, a creative mid creates chances for others as well, he simply does not do that, which is why he is failing so miserably at Barca and with Brazil.}


5.) 22 Jun 2019 12:34:53
Robbiesline, if he had never been a Liverpool player and we bought him for the fee being touted, I'd think we'd lost the plot.

He's not worth half of the fee it would take i. e. Fekir is being priced at something like £50 million.


6.) 22 Jun 2019 13:09:12
Selling Coutinho and using the money to help fund VvD and Alison surely ranks as Liverpool’s best transfer business since getting Aldridge, Barnes and Beardsley. No going back for Coutinho for me - he was and is too selfish for this team, and shows no sign of changing.


7.) 22 Jun 2019 13:23:02
Completely agree Ed1.


8.) 22 Jun 2019 13:31:27
Completely agree Ed1, I aren't going to say he isn't talented because he is but like you say we've done better since he left and that's the truth. People wanting him back, why? The way he forced his way out? And you want someone like that back? I wouldn't have him back at Liverpool if he was for free.

Hes decent at best and can be magical at times but it's not enough, he's not good enough for this team now, nowhere even near. Bugger him, he thought the grass was greener and failed. Unlucky lad.


9.) 22 Jun 2019 14:54:39
Coutinho used to drift in and out of games on a regular basis. He would have the odd match where he was enthusiastic and linked well with Firmino doing 1-2s, plus he scored some pearlers from 25 yards, but i can't remember a player who was so inconsistent at Liverpool. He was anonymous one week, then scored a brace the next and everyone wet their pants over him. He agitated to leave to go to his preferred club and I couldn't see him being anything other than a step down for us now. Id prefer Dembele from Barcelona but happy to not bother with any of their players to be honest.


10.) 22 Jun 2019 15:37:55
Yeah good points. Especially about there being cheaper options. And i think we gave him the ball so much because he was our best player. We were all pleased when he didn't leave in the summer. I think since he left we have functioned more like a team, it brought the group closer together.

Also buying allison and vvd and fabhino with the money raised from selling coutinio was massive in us becoming one of the worlds best football teams again. I wouldn't swap those three for 3 coutinios tbh.

Still, they were called the fab 4 for a reason, they demolished defences. Maybe his ego might have subsided a bit since joining Barcelona, where he isn't the best technical player they have, and then getting humbled at anfield by his old team.

I said at the start of the thread that it won't happen but i hope it does. He has had a poor season but is still one of the best footballers on the planet imo. Barcelona just isn't the right team for him.

I think he might end up at chelsea.


 

 

17 Jun 2019 13:51:35
Really don’t think there is going to be big money spent this summer or any so called marquee signings and it’s doesn't bother me because they’re not needed. What is needed is better quality within the squad.

We’re probably going to need a new second choice keeper if or when mignolet leaves.

The centre of defence is stocked unless lovren leaves but even then, Van dijk, Gomez and Matip should suffice. We could do with signing a versatile full back who can play both LB and RB. Milner can cover left back if needed but I would be more comfortable with an out and out full back for cover.

Midfield is overstocked as it is, especially with Ox coming back this season fighting for a starting spot. I think midfield is probably our strongest position within the squad regarding quality and depth. So all this talk of big bids for Bruno Fernandes is wide of the mark I think unless there is a player or 2 who leaves.

As for our forwards, I think it’s safe to say that barring any injuries, the front 3 will play the majority of the games although we will need a versatile forward to cover them in case of injuries and when they need a rest. I’ve seen cornet’s name mentioned a lot and I think he will be the type of player that is targeted as he is versatile, a good player and we won’t have to break the bank to sign him. As the Ed’s have said, a player like Pepe will only be looked at realistically if one of the front 3 leave.

This is probably the first transfer window in recent memory where I’m confident that we don’t need big reinforcements to have a successful season!

JK_RED

1.) 17 Jun 2019 14:20:18
So, nothing new in your post at all then. So insightful of you to agree with all the information that we've already been given over and over. Folks, looks like we got a reader! ;)


2.) 17 Jun 2019 14:32:50
I don't think vvd gomez and matip do suffice. You need 4 senior cbs going into a season, at least. I can't see lovren leaving though. If he does i think we will sign another world class cb.

I think you're right about the quality we have in midfield. And the front 3 will start most games. But, we were fairly lucky with injuries up top. With Sturridge leaving im pretty sure we will sign a forward. Maybe bring Ings back in?

A good back up keeper would be good. Cech would be decent imo but he wamts to play so not going to happen.

I don't think the wing back thing is such an issue. The two starters trent and robbo are super fit and we have players like henderson, fabhino, gomez, and milner who have all played at either rb or lb. Id like to see adam lewis brought in, given experience, if he works out we're sorted, if not then milner can cover when needed. The right side is easier. Hendo fabhino and gomez can all provide cover.


3.) 17 Jun 2019 14:52:11
Robbiesline. Cech has retired from playing and has taken up a senior role at his former club, Chelsea.


4.) 17 Jun 2019 15:24:27
Ok then jurgen Meister, sorry for boring you with my opinions! If you don’t like what I’ve written, scroll past my post!


5.) 17 Jun 2019 16:36:38
What you reading for?


6.) 17 Jun 2019 16:48:35
Nice Bill Hicks reference Fornax.


7.) 17 Jun 2019 16:49:43
Nah we definitely need to strengthen mate. Everyone around us will, so we have too. I think we'll see one big name signing pal.


8.) 17 Jun 2019 19:45:06
Jurgen Meister. And so what? Like you're the harbinger of fresh out of the oven news on a daily basis?


9.) 17 Jun 2019 21:35:08
I'm inclined to agree with you JK_RED, we have a younger squad than city that will naturally improve. On top of that we have the Ox coming back, Keita still adapting and Fabinho playing from the get go. We'll be stronger regardless of who comes in. New signings are welcome, but only if they actually improve the club. Cover at fullback is a position that needs filling.


10.) 17 Jun 2019 23:28:57
Robbie, Cech is retiring (I think) so that is a no-go. We dio need cover at both FB positions as well as a versatile forward that can cover all front three positions. As for CB if Lovs stays which I think he will, there will be no other CB coming in as that makes no sense. If he does leave then things may change.

Finally, It is high time we stopped saying "we can use Milner or Gomez as cover for FB's". That typ of thinking needs to end, IMO.
We need specialist FB's to play at their right positions to guarantee maximum output. It's not like we don't have the money to fill these roles, does it?

Playing Milner and Fab (midfielders) as well as Gomez (the starting CB we all think he can be) is stifling them and limiting our ability to be more flexible in midfield and at CB if injury to Robbo or TAA should occur. This is what stifled us a bit in Jan and Feb when TAA Gomez, and Lovs were injured and we should NOT allow that to happen again. IMO, Let the players play in their rightful positions so as to guarantee maximum production and let's be done with it. Enuff of this "this guy can play there so no need for cover" stuff.


 

 

03 Jun 2019 22:21:12
I see the daily mail are recycling the Rabiot rumours, saying he is willing to turn down big wages at UTD to sign for Liverpool. Any interest from us Ed’s? Or just more media BS?

Thanks.

JK_RED

{Ed002's Note - Nothing has changed.}


1.) 05 Jun 2019 19:41:28
I don’t see Rabiot signing for Liverpool.


 

 

02 Jun 2019 10:42:53
What a night!

Not the greatest game of football I’ll ever watch but I don’t care one iota! What a season it has been, so happy for salah after the heartbreak of last years final. Also, I’d love origi to stick around next season as a squad player, scored some very important goals this season and could be very handy coming off the bench next season!

JK_RED

1.) 02 Jun 2019 11:07:57
If I could have picked anyone to score the winner it would have been Origi. He seems a nice guy and after his heroics this season he deserved that moment.


2.) 02 Jun 2019 11:19:20
What I find funny is the way he goes blank for a little while before celebrating his goals whenever he scores.


3.) 02 Jun 2019 13:11:53
Fruitba, Origi has deserved this moment and is a nice guy? Surely, you jest. Divvy is a FREAKING Legend, man. Build him a statue, I say.


 

 

24 May 2019 20:07:45
Ed001,

I’ve just read the thread on Owen and I was wondering your opinion on fowler? I’m not really old enough to remember him live apart from his second spell but all the highlights I’ve seen and the stats I’ve read lead me to believe he was phenomenal in his teens and early 20’s. Do you think if he had remained injury free he would be spoken about in the same way shearer and Thierry Henry are?

Thanks.

JK_RED

{Ed001's Note - yes, he was a truly special player. Get a free kick on the edge of the box and it was as good as an open goal to him.}


1.) 24 May 2019 23:35:57
Oh to have a young Fowler again Ed🙏.


2.) 24 May 2019 23:56:32
Thanks for the reply ed, do you think if fowler hadn’t fell out with houllier, he could have stayed with us and become one of the world greats? Or do you think his injuries had already took their toll and he was on a downhill slope?

{Ed001's Note - injuries had already taken their toll.}


3.) 25 May 2019 08:31:16
We called him GOD for a reason - wonderful footballer.


4.) 25 May 2019 09:13:45
Fowler was the best finisher at the club. Houlier pragmatic approach did not suit Robbie. once he lost that initial burst of pace, through injury.
When a good finisher like Kevin Phillips comes out and says Robbie was the best finisher in the England squad, squads including Cole, Shearer Ferdinand, Collymore Owen and others, that tells you how good he was.


5.) 25 May 2019 09:20:09
Better than rush for me. some of the outstanding goals he scored. absolute genius. Was just up against great strikers in the league at the time too.


6.) 25 May 2019 11:23:57
Nobody like Rush. they don't make them like that anymore.


7.) 27 May 2019 02:31:05
What a natural goalscorer, not many finishers like him around in today's game, . Pace, athleticism, agility technique are often what the modern forward is expected to have. If the ball fell to robbies left peg in or around the box you knew he was hitting the target. Scored some beautys, my fave was when he bullied Neville off the ball and deftly chipped shmeicheal. If you mixed Owen and Fowler into one player you'd have the best striker to exist.


 

 

 

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23 Apr 2019 16:57:26
Whether klopp said he would play him or not, when the player was not up to the standard required, he was loaned out! What is Klopp supposed to do? Carry on playing him even though he’s not good enough? If he had stepped up and improved, he would have played! You seem to have a personal vendetta against klopp and Liverpool.

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{Ed002's Note - Klopp is a compulsive liar - there have been numerous examples like this, try not to make pitiful excuses - it is very embarrassing. I appreciate you don’t want the truth. Klopp is a liar and a cheat.}


 

 

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23 Apr 2019 15:02:21
I don’t get how we have screwed up his career? He was signed and when he was deemed not good enough, he has been loaned out. This literally happens with hundreds of players every season.

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{Ed002's Note - Signed on the basis of being lied to; work permit on the basis of a lie; not used and loaned out.}


 

 

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04 Jan 2019 13:33:12
DAPred, I just told you why I don’t see it happening, he will want guaranteed game time, and Klopp willl not give him any guarantees.

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24 Jul 2018 12:29:24
Lay off it ed002, it’s like you’ve got a personal vendetta against Liverpool. Chelsea have spent stupid amounts of money, purchased promising young players just so other clubs couldn’t have them and sent them out on loan after loan, ruining their career prospects, but don’t let that get in the way of your agenda!

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{Ed002's Note - Why do you keep trying to make it about Chelsea? I am pretty sure Chelsea has not ruined the career prospects of players and those sold have been sold for a reason. Hard to see how the loans damaged the careers of the likes of De Bruyne, Lukaku, Salah, Courtois, Christensen, yadda, yadda, yadda. The club have made a good return on players who wanted to leave and have been very successful in terms of winning the Premier League, FA Cup, League Cup, Europa League and the Champions League - so many would argue the model they have is a good one. I am not sure why this is a problem to you. Perhaps if the Liverpool supporters stopped trying to blame others for every single failing you would not be the clear laughing stock that you are. I also think I have done nothing more than tell you the truth and yet you continue with this constant attempt to deflect. I am rather surprised you don't think this is very embarrassing.}


 

 

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24 Jul 2018 12:17:35
It’s not about making it about someone else ed002, you constantly slag Liverpool off for doing the same things most other top clubs in world football do, Chelsea, city and United have all spent similar money to Liverpool over the last 5-10 years if not more!

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{Ed002's Note - No, it is about making it about someone else. I am not aware of me "constantly slagging off Liverpool" - the manager has come out and said he "changed his mind" about buying success - or simply lied before. So the owners who are desperate are again throwing cash at a club that haemorrhages money in I would think a last gasp attempt of winning the premier league. The excuse of "transition" year in and year out is frankly tiresome. It is all terribly embarrassing of course.}


 

 

 

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26 Jun 2019 09:36:11
Ed, I remember we were linked with silva a lot before he went to city, were we ever in the running for him? Would have been an amazing signing!

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{Ed001's Note - yes, Rafa set up a move for him and Villa but Prick Parry pulled the plug on it because he is an utter bell and decided it was too expensive.}


 

 

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17 Jun 2019 15:24:27
Ok then jurgen Meister, sorry for boring you with my opinions! If you don’t like what I’ve written, scroll past my post!

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07 Jun 2019 12:13:25
I’ve been saying this all season with the constant rumours of the front 3 leaving, mane and salah are easier to replace than bobby who has a very unique skillset. Fair enough, he’s not going to get 30 goals a season but what he does bring is just as important as goals.

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24 May 2019 23:56:32
Thanks for the reply ed, do you think if fowler hadn’t fell out with houllier, he could have stayed with us and become one of the world greats? Or do you think his injuries had already took their toll and he was on a downhill slope?

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21 May 2019 18:57:35
Sadly, I doubt Liverpool or any English club is high on the list of dream destinations for the very top players like Mbappe. Football these days is about more than just possible trophies, it’s about lifestyle and money and dreary old England just doesn’t match up to the sun and lifestyle of Barcelona or Madrid.

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