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07 Jan 2024 21:35:06
Long time no post. Hope all the eds and reds are doing good!
Ed002- I saw a silly rumour that Arsenal may be looking to sign Firmino on a short term deal. Is this nonsense?
{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of any interest from Arsenal who have clear targets of their own, but his demands are so excessive that interested sides will walk away.}
28 May 2023 23:24:18
Wout Faes coming in as replacement for Matip apparently.
1.) 28 May 2023 23:38:34
He has been Leicester's best defender to be fair. A massive Liverpool fan as well apparently. Probably why he scored 2 own goals for us this season ?.
2.) 28 May 2023 23:40:37
I guess he has already scored 2 goals for us this season so fits in well.
3.) 29 May 2023 05:56:04
Wout Wout!
4.) 29 May 2023 08:48:55
Lavia got his first assist yesterday aswell.
5.) 29 May 2023 09:39:06
He's awful ????.
07 Jul 2022 19:34:32
Hi Ed002
Couldnt find on the search function - is true that Juventus are interested in Firmino this summer?
Cheers
FR.
{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of any approach.}
1.) 09 Jul 2022 09:14:02
Juve only do freebies.
07 Jul 2022 19:34:32
Hi Ed002
Couldnt find on the search function - is true that Juventus are interested in Firmino this summer?
Cheers
FR.
{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of any approach to Liverpool and they have very clear targets to replace Dybala.}
09 Jun 2022 22:31:19
Heres a rumour for you (from a Data Analyst) .
Hwang Hee Chan is on the list as a squad replacement player for Minamino/ Ox/ Origi.
1.) 10 Jun 2022 03:22:03
I think between Curtis Jones, Fabio Carvalho, Harvey Elliot, they should eat up Minamino and Ox minutes, IF we do actually go out and get Nunez, we won't have to worry about who takes Origi minutes.
2.) 10 Jun 2022 07:09:04
Actually that wouldn't surprise me forza, Hwang always looked liverpool type player back to when he playing for Salzburg. Think some of Ed's said at time we interested in him or where watching him. Not saying I would like to see us sign him but I could see it happening. Origi and minamino scored some v important goals for us last season and they may want somebody to fill that role for a season r 2.
{Ed001's Note - we also showed interest before Wolves made his move permanent, among other teams, which forced them to complete the deal earlier than they had intended.}
3.) 10 Jun 2022 08:15:59
I will never forget when Hwang sent Virgil for a hotdog then curled into the net, in the 4-3 win against Salzburg. He is a decent player.
4.) 10 Jun 2022 08:30:39
Nunez to replace Mane, Hwang to replace Origi, Carvalho to replace Minamino, Ramsay to replace Neco Williams?
5.) 10 Jun 2022 09:58:24
would have thought a younger player to replace origi for domestic cups and push for place on bench.
rumoured interest in watfords joao pedro seemed to fit the bill.
6.) 10 Jun 2022 09:25:10
Why sell Minamino for 15-20 mil and sign Hwang for a similar price? Better to use the young players like Stewart or Cannonier. If we want to sign a versatile squad player might as well go for an under 21 HG player.
7.) 10 Jun 2022 09:30:33
Yeah i was more impressed with him than minamino to be fair.
8.) 10 Jun 2022 10:36:17
I ageee ravo. Hwang makes little sense. For one, Wolves have just turned his loan permanent for £15m so he won't come cheap. For two, he's possibly got to do Military service soon as he's South Korean.
{Ed002's Note - Military service is not an issue - it will be done before the season starts.}
9.) 10 Jun 2022 11:08:58
Even then Ed002, he'll cost more than we'll get for Minamino. Surely it makes more sense to let Carvalho, Elliott and Gordon cover the loss of Minamino and Origi?
{Ed002's Note - Liverpool have no interest in the player and he has already moved this summer.}
10.) 10 Jun 2022 11:20:01
Good! Cheers Ed002!
11.) 10 Jun 2022 09:25:10
Why sell Minamino for 15-20 mil and sign Hwang for a similar price? Better to use the young players like Stewart or Cannonier. If we want to sign a versatile squad player might as well go for an under 21 HG player.
12.) 10 Jun 2022 09:30:33
Yeah i was more impressed with him than minamino to be fair.
13.) 10 Jun 2022 14:21:49
I don’t want us to sign hwang but I thought he was the player that stood out when we played Salzburg and at the time I was confused why we were after minamino and not him. Having said minamino I think has been a good buy. He has proven to be a good squad player and crucial to our cup wins this season.
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26 Jan 2024 19:50:54
ed001- your dream pick to replace Klopp? And your most realistic guess?
Regardless of how well either are doing I think this is a job too soon for Alonso or De Zerbi. Id think an experienced and proven manager for 2-3 years and reassess is then is the best approach.
{Ed001's Note - Alonso. Alonso. No thank you to de Zerbi, who is taking Brighton backwards and I do not like at all. Talks far too much and causes far too many arguments behind the scenes.}
1.) 26 Jan 2024 22:29:37
Which experienced proven manager is going to get the job then? Xabi Alonso is the best man for the job, that's all that matters.
2.) 26 Jan 2024 22:48:24
Xabi Alonso
Unai Emery
Nagelsmann
Michels (Girona)
Simone Inzaghi.
3.) 26 Jan 2024 23:03:46
Id take Nagelsmann like a shot. I love Xabi and he seems to be doing amazing but he's still prettty green as managers go.
{Ed001's Note - Nagelsmann made a hash of things at Bayern. Got his dream job and then proceeded to take his eye off the ball and got himself honeytrapped. Not sure I would want to have him anywhere near our job now. He has shown his judgement is poor.}
4.) 26 Jan 2024 23:11:36
Leek, it's Alonso for me. He is young, dynamic and can grow with the young players with the veterans as his eyes and ears on the pitch and hin the dressing room, IMO. The others including the supremely overrated Ange and De Zerbi can do one.
5.) 26 Jan 2024 23:33:41
Alonso will only want Madrid, I think we’re deluding ourselves otherwise. Nagelsmann is hugely over rated and failed at a dominant Bayern side. We’d have to compensate City Group for Michels so that’s a no go. Hard to see much quality out there at the moment. I hope we don’t go for Postecoglu as he’s a clown. Even worse is the idea that Ljindars might take over.
Reality is that it’s pretty bleak. All we can do is enjoy this last season of Klopp and be grateful he was the boss. Unfortunately this isn’t the same as Shanks as there’s no Bob Paisley waiting in the wings.
{Ed001's Note - Alonso has publicly said on a number of occasions that he wants to manage Liverpool. No idea why you are talking such nonsense.}
6.) 26 Jan 2024 23:35:16
I think it's too soon for Alonso. Let him get some more experience, even if it means him going to Bayern or Real in the meantime. There's plenty of time for him to manage Liverpool and the Premier League is brutal for an inexperienced coach. He might end up being the coaching version of Octavian but personally I don't want to risk it yet.
I don't know why people generally are being so dismissive of Nagelsmann. I think he's the most natural successor to Klopp. As a Klopp squad, there weren't too many changes that needed to be made in summer so getting someone stylistically similar makes sense.
{Ed001's Note - because Nagelsmann has made a whole series of mistakes and bad management decisions in recent years. The worst being to allow himself to be honeytrapped by a journalist. He then gave that journalist exclusive access to himself and the Bayern squad for interviews, breaking news etc. Unsurprisingly she dumped him as soon as he got fired.}
7.) 27 Jan 2024 00:29:18
I would be ecstatic if Alonso took over, however we have to berealistic. If Real show interest, which is likely given Ancelotti’s age and Florentino Perez’s ruthlessness, I’d not be surprised if they binned Ancelotti off and make a move on Alonso and if that happens he’ll go there, we won’t be in the conversation, much like Bellingham and their soon to be latest transfer, Mbappe. The talent pool if managers out there is very very shallow unfortunately. I just have this awful feeling we’ll end up with Ljindars as manager.
{Ed001's Note - being so positive must be what keeps you going.}
8.) 27 Jan 2024 00:36:27
Yeah, I get the whole affair thing was ridiculous but I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt on that one and assume he has surely learnt from his mistake.
In fact, I think most of the mistakes Nagelsmann made are things he can and should learn from, at least from what I've read about. I still think he's a very talented manager and the best fit stylistically to take over this particular squad. I feel like we should try and get someone's who is going to take what Klopp has built and run with it rather than someone with a different vision of how football should be played.
I also don't think all the mistakes at Bayern were all completely Nagelsmann's fault. Bayern seem to have interfering old-boys directors who often get in the manager's way. A number of the players have egos and are generally bad eggs to have in a squad. Neuer in particular infuriates me. I think he would find a more receptive audience with our squad.
I'm just fearful with Alonso that there's going to be a bit too much finding his way on the job like there has been with Arteta at Arsenal. In Arteta's case, both him and the club have developed together. Arsenal have been patient with him through his mistakes and experimentation as they didn't have much to lose. We have a lot more to lose with a very capable squad and Klopp's legacy.
{Ed001's Note - one of the problems with Nagelsmann is that he will not run with what someone else was doing previously. He will change it, just because he has to. It is part of his make up. He has that desire to prove he knows more and that he is his own man. That is not going away yet, so he is not ready.
I don't see how you can think Nagelsmann is ready but Alonso isn't. Alonso has shown a lot more managerial maturity in his roles than Nagelsmann. Though I do agree he was hampered there by the bosses above and, particularly, the bell that is Neuer.
Alonso's style of football is also a much better fit with Klopp's style than is Nagelsmann's.}
9.) 27 Jan 2024 01:29:51
I was just going with sample size Ed. Nagelsmann has done well in all his seasons at Hoffenheim and Leipzig. He vastly overachieved at Hoffenheim and I remember his Leipzig had a memorable run in the Champions League. He may be deemed a "flop" at Bayern but he won the league in his first year and was one point off top and still in all competitions when he got sacked. Tuchel is currently four points off top with Harry Kane. It was mainly his spell at Leipzig that made me a fan of Nagelsmann and thought he would make a good successor to Klopp.
Alonso has only had just over a year in a significant job. I'd personally like to see him replicate his success over multiple seasons before he came to us. Not expecting him to win the league every year but keeping Leverkusen at a competitive level as a solid Champions League you'd be wary of.
But Nagelsmann and Alonso are both my top picks. They're both far superior for me than the likes of De Zerbi or Frank.
{Ed001's Note - ok mate.}
10.) 27 Jan 2024 01:34:43
Viktor, why you think he'd snub us is beyond me mate, it'd be a huge move for his career to be given the opportunity of the Liverpool job. If we do go in for him and he was to reject us, he'd be a fool but personally I think he'd jump at the chance, the man is no fool and has history with Liverpool. He would connect with the fans and after Klopp I think that's needed.
11.) 27 Jan 2024 07:58:12
I think if Madrids manager leaves then they will make a move for Alonso.
24 Nov 2021 22:36:21
hi ed002
Sorry if I missed this on the search.
What is the situation with Origis contract?
Is he currently contracted to 2022 with am option to extend to 2024? Is the option unilateral for Liverpool?
Thanks.
{Ed002's Note - There is an option to extend and it is unilateral but the club would not stand in his way if he wanted to move on.}
1.) 25 Nov 2021 09:54:55
Edwards was looking for Lukaku type offer hence Origi stayed lol.
21 Sep 2021 20:27:10
ed001 your thoughts please
if we didn't have alisson do you think kelleher would be no1 or is he not yet good enough?
shame for the kid he has alisson ahead of him as i think he will be a quality keeper if he gets regular game time now (key development age for him)
{Ed001's Note - we would have bought someone else if not Alisson. Kelleher is certainly close to being good enough, but he lacks a commanding presence.}
1.) 21 Sep 2021 21:10:16
That will come with time and learning off AB Tris.
11 Aug 2021 23:04:07
Ed002 please.
For my curiosity please could you list a few Italian players Liverpool have declared an interest in under Klopp?
Thank you.
{Ed002's Note - Nicolo Barella, Sandro Tonali and Federico Chiesa.}
1.) 12 Aug 2021 11:46:26
Yes please.
2.) 12 Aug 2021 11:57:49
Our run of bad luck with Italian players has to end at some point. I’m surprised we hadn’t taken a look at Berrardi, seems a Klopp type player, works hard, can play anywhere across the front, isn’t a slouch for pace and scores goals for fun.
{Ed002's Note - Sell Salah and call Sassuolo but the player has made it clear who he wants to play for - certainly Liverpool have watched him Berardi.}
3.) 12 Aug 2021 12:04:29
I'll take ALL 3 pls, Thanks Ed02.
{Ed002's Note - They won't be joining.}
4.) 12 Aug 2021 12:22:36
If Salah were to leave (not that I want him to, the man is an incredible player) he’d be a reasonable option. But equally we’d be crazy to sell a genuine world class player like Salah. That and I don’t see anyone out there with pockets deep enough to buy him.
{Ed002's Note - There are clubs that can afford him but Liverpool are not looking to sell. His value has peaked and is now dropping because of his age.}
5.) 12 Aug 2021 12:52:38
VVVV - What? Berardi as a reasonable replacement for Salah? The former has never scored more than 17 in a season and averages just under 10 at 27 years of age, yet here we are stating he could replace the world’s premier right-sided wide player?
Salah is irreplaceable.
6.) 12 Aug 2021 12:44:19
Thanks for the response Ed0002.
7.) 12 Aug 2021 13:28:19
One can only dream, eh Ed02?
8.) 12 Aug 2021 13:44:33
Barella! I can live with not signing top class players like this but at least we’re showing an interest in them. Thanks ed002.
9.) 12 Aug 2021 14:04:01
Lowe, those were the kinds of figures Salah was posting in Serie A before he joined us. I’d say that is a reasonable guideline. Particularly given he’s scoring decent amounts of goals in a team that isn’t at the top of the tables.
19 Apr 2021 17:44:08
Hi Eds
If a player didn't wish to play in the ESL (for example so they could continue to represent their country), would they be able to claim something akin to constructive dismissal from the club?
Thanks.
{Ed002's Note - No, because if they leave the club it would be as a Free Agent in that case and they can negotiate a move to another side.}
13 Aug 2019 19:41:43
ed002 do you think deals like this will become more likely going forward (a loan with a conditional obligation to buy) .
{Ed002's Note - No more so than they are now.}
21 May 2019 22:43:53
Eds do you know if Lallana will move on?
{Ed001's Note - he would like to go back down south, so it is very possible.}
09 Jan 2018 00:22:22
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07 Jan 2018 17:36:10
Has Liverpool looked at Rulli? isn't he doing quite well at Sociedad?
02 Jan 2018 23:53:03
Clyne kept himself off the nosebeers then?
09 Jan 2022 09:55:42
Regiater yourself as a member first.
Realistically you're unlikely to get any tickets on general sale this season, possibly if we go through this round of the FA cup and get another home draw against a lowerleague team.
You can sometimes buy some of the cheaper, "hospitality" tickets for Cat C games these go for around £150.
04 Jan 2022 09:35:26
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22 Oct 2021 19:51:35
Tough one I can't see us smashing our wage structure for Salah.
I actually think giving Salah a monster contract will motivate and attract other players and show them that we reward the best of the best but don't see how we can actually afford it.
06 Oct 2021 21:52:46
all this is coming from a video of someone that looks like Bissouma being taken out of a nightclub in police custody laar night.
30 Aug 2021 21:45:52
daniel sturridge is still without a club ( last i saw he was training with a spanish team) .
gaston ramirez is free as well ( blast from the rumours past there. )