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05 Feb 2025 11:30:47
Ed's or anyone else, have you seen the links to Miguel Guitierrez of Girona? Looks a quality player but with Girona being part of the City group surely this would be a complete non-starter? I can't see them selling to us and/ or if he was that good would City not take him for themselves?
1.) 05 Feb 2025 14:16:43
Good going forward and poor at the back. Typical modern day full back. City are after Cambiaso. They don’t need him.
2.) 05 Feb 2025 15:03:47
City group aren’t going to sell him to us. There’s really no point sending scouts to watch players at clubs owned by premier league rivals, or who fall under the same ownership group. And that’s without mentioning that Real Madrid have retained 50% of his ownership rights and sell on fee. I’d hope that even Hughes isn’t that dim to waste any time or efforts on this player.
3.) 05 Feb 2025 17:47:23
I do not believe it!
4.) 05 Feb 2025 18:24:15
I did forget that PL rivals don't sell player to each other.
5.) 05 Feb 2025 20:40:55
Why would city group sell a player who is evidently performing well at a high level to a direct rival club who they have a problematic relationship with, Rigsby. Or are you forgetting that incident where one of our current employees hacked into the City scouting database, which we had to pay rather a lot of hush money to them in order to stop them reporting us to the FA for. Which we would have got a kicking for btw.
6.) 05 Feb 2025 22:48:19
The City group might sell him to us because he's a poor defender, as you said.
Seriously, I don't know whether the City group would or wouldn't sell him to a rival PL team. I didn't mention him and I know nothing about him.
My point was about PL teams signing players from other PL teams. It does happen.
Are you saying it doesn't, Vik?
7.) 06 Feb 2025 06:22:56
@Victor if they don’t like us that much why didn’t 5hey just report us? I suppose your answer is because we gave them money? Do you go have any actual proof of that as it seems to me City requesting a bribe and us paying it would get both clubs into even more trouble.
8.) 06 Feb 2025 07:12:59
Rigsby you’re being pedantic for no reason. VV is spot on and his logic is sound. You know quite well that rival clubs 99% of the time don’t sell players to one another. The recent anomalies generally include Chelsea who are willing to pay in excess to get players through the door and the selling club happy to get rid. We can’t buy a piece of toast, rarely get drawn into what a perceived difficult transfers and “transfer wars”.
9.) 06 Feb 2025 08:53:41
Frode/ Victor, I'm not sure that your undestandings are accurate. I can think of 25+ examples off the top of my head just in the last 20 years of players being moved between big 6 rivals for a fee or on loan.
Liverpool let Sterling, Benayoun, Torres and Meireles go to big 6 rivals.
Chelsea let Cech, Benayoun, Jorginho, Kovacic, Luiz, Sturridge, Werner, Mount and Havertz go to big 6 rivals.
Arsenal let Cole, Van Persie, Toure, Clichy, Adebayor, Giroud, Nasri and Oxlade-Chamberlain go to big 6 rivals.
Man City let Zinchenko, Sterling and Jesus go to big 6 rivals.
Spurs let Walker, Keane, Berbatov and Carrick go to big 6 rivals.
Man United let Sancho go to a big 6 rival.
Again, this is just off the top of my head and I can think of it happening pretty much every year for about 20 years.
10.) 06 Feb 2025 09:43:27
Kippers, I see MK has posted a very good reply and he remembers far more transfers than I do ?.
I get yours and Vik's points but there are lots of examples and reasons why a PL club would sell to a rival club.
Don't underestimate the business side of it and how much more power players have these days.
11.) 06 Feb 2025 12:35:44
Interesting stuff.
What was the best and worst inter-rival move over the last 25 years?
12.) 06 Feb 2025 13:29:01
Worst so far - its still early - Mount to United from Chelsea
We have not done well at all from top 6 incomings
Best - and I hate to admit to any of these
Van Persie to United from Arsenal - won Ferguson his league to go two ahead of us
Equal second: Walker Spurs to City (for longevity)
Sterling from us to City - still don't forget this one (for two seasons)
13.) 06 Feb 2025 14:15:59
Worst is probably Man Utd selling Wan Bissaka to West Ham. Big mistake selling to a relegation rival.
14.) 06 Feb 2025 15:46:48
Us selling Torres to Chelsea was a bad buy for them.
£50m and that was a long time ago and he was injured when we sold him.
We also flogged them Raul Meireles.
Van Persie to United is a great shout for a good buy ?.
I'd have to mention Rio Ferdinand to United, too. Leeds were a top side at the time and that has just jogged my memory to think of Eric Cantona.
What a player he was and they got him for peanuts.
15.) 06 Feb 2025 16:53:01
I can't believe you are all even debating this.
The best transfer between rival clubs was clearly the free transfer of James Milner from City to Liverpool!
16.) 06 Feb 2025 17:43:24
Great shout on Milly, Shipley.
Agree on Van Persie (good) and Torres (bad) shouts too.
Ashley Cole, as unlikable as he was, was a hell of a signing by Chelsea.
Sheringham and Berbatov were also pretty good signings by United too.
17.) 06 Feb 2025 19:52:22
Michael Carrick too i would say!
18.) 07 Feb 2025 07:36:03
Surely Milner can't be included because he was out of contract at City. And it's the same for other free transfers.
City or whoever couldn't stop him joining a rival club because he was no longer contracted to them.
Sol Campbell would have got a mention otherwise. Spurs to Arsenal is some move.
19.) 08 Feb 2025 21:39:08
City gave us Bellamy.
16 Jan 2025 13:09:09
Stoke City apparently interested in Jayden Danns on loan. Would make sense after the Gabriel Jesus injury but I can't see us sanctioning a move to a title rival mid-season.
1.) 16 Jan 2025 13:20:05
Oh I see what you did there.
2.) 16 Jan 2025 13:31:32
A title rival? Stoke City?
3.) 16 Jan 2025 13:32:27
This post has melted my brain.
4.) 16 Jan 2025 13:48:27
I was reading this thinking - Why would Gabriel Jesus injury have anything to do with loaning Danns. Well played El Bob.
I hope we don't loan out Danns though, he deserves a chance for the rest of the season.
5.) 16 Jan 2025 13:54:57
Maybe the spanish Tony Pulis will not agree to move, they already have Kai havertz.
6.) 16 Jan 2025 14:15:09
Took me a while to get it as well Bob. But well played. Gave me a little chuckle ?.
7.) 16 Jan 2025 14:54:06
That was excellent Bob ??.
8.) 16 Jan 2025 15:06:59
Ok it's just clicked. Fair play Bob. Lol.
9.) 16 Jan 2025 15:30:35
Loving your posts bob, keep them coming mate ??.
10.) 16 Jan 2025 15:54:57
It is quite funny that one of Pep’s alumni has turned into a Paella Pulis rather than that tiki taka nonsense. He’s more George Graham than Arsene Wenger.
As for Danns, I really would like him to get a chance here than go on loan. Nothing to lose giving him some minutes.
11.) 16 Jan 2025 16:23:28
Arsenal do play some good football, to be fair. Saka, Martinelli, Odegaard and Jorginho are hardly cloggers.
They just don't have anyone to do the last bit after playing some good football.
12.) 16 Jan 2025 16:37:25
“Some” Rigsby, but mostly they’re a bit agricultural.
13.) 16 Jan 2025 17:15:14
Hahaha quality Bob!
14.) 16 Jan 2025 17:53:10
Think they play pretty good football actually, just missing that striker, Kai is not a striker and Jesus wasn’t much use at city…zubiamendi will improve them too. The corners are a different topic all together, but then more teams are doing it now, even we did it against Forrest for the Jota goal.
15.) 16 Jan 2025 19:20:17
Brilliant Bob. Don't know if your a new poster or just a new name.
But you're a great addition!
16.) 16 Jan 2025 19:20:28
To be fair, they are playing to their strengths- not pretty but effective. Personally I’m not at fan but I doubt that will cause Arteta to lose much sleep.
17.) 16 Jan 2025 21:03:18
They aren’t agricultural at all in open play. Sure if they have a free kick or corner they might certain tactics but it’s been successful for them. Anyone who thinks they just lump the ball up the pitch to a big man must have their head stuck up their ass. It would be pretty futile having saka, martinelli etc if that was the case.
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25 Mar 2025 14:31:50
I see a lot of people suggesting Richard Hughes is completely blameless for current contract issues, and none of it is his fault because he simply inherited the situation. Now for those people I have a question
Imagine I bought a house and there was a turd on the living room floor. Almost 12 months of me living there and the turd is still there
Do my friends criticise me for not doing anything about it? Question whether I'm clinically insane, maybe demand I stop being so lazy and refuse to visit until I get rid of the tied.
Or alternatively do they feel sorry for me and admit I am blameless because I inherited the situation?
{Ed001's Note - you mean Ward right? He is the one responsible for the contracts.}
1.) 25 Mar 2025 14:59:16
Ed01, as a suggestion, why don't you change the name of this site to "Richard Hughes doesn't do contracts", then it might sink in with some posters.
2.) 25 Mar 2025 15:16:03
The problem with your “turds” is the clean up job is you doing it and that’s it, with a contract renewal there are multiple parties and their respective preferences involved!
By no means sympathizing with either hughes or ward, just your analogy is sh*tty!
3.) 25 Mar 2025 15:17:20
Ed unfortunately Julian Fraud slander isn’t popular enough, and he also isn’t new so this joke wouldn’t work. Please don’t let facts get in the way of an agenda.
4.) 25 Mar 2025 15:27:40
Dont let the facts get in the way of an ol Hughes baiting Bob.
5.) 25 Mar 2025 15:10:04
Ed, would love to see your breakdown of this process regarding the contracts of the three after it is over, kind of like your game reviews. Would really love your perspective. should be a fascinating read. Also, would love to hear what Ed025 has to say, he can be the voice of reason during emotional times like this.
{Ed025's Note - heres my take on things Stone, i think heads should roll the way this has all been handled as it should never have got to this position, with 2 years to go on a contract negotiations should start on a new deal and then the players have 6 months to agree terms or be put on the transfer list, they are 3 very special players mate and to lose them for nothing would be absolutely criminal imo, we are talking at least £300m worth of talent here and they could leave for nothing and that for me is totally beyond belief, at this stage now if they are not totally committed to LFC then it would be best if they left, but lessons must be learned as this sort of business is not sustainable and should never happen again..
6.) 25 Mar 2025 17:10:28
What a very bizarre analogy!
The reality is a turd is very easy to clean off the floor.
Signing the three players to new contracts who are already being offered potentially lucrative deals from other clubs is very tough.
7.) 25 Mar 2025 17:09:04
Ed025 you summed it up perfectly mate. To potentially lose £300m of playing talent is an absolute joke. Imagine a company losing £300m of stock heads would 100% roll and it's no different than what's happening at Liverpool.
{Ed025's Note - i think it was a schoolboy error Barry, of course this is just my view mate and im sure some would disagree, but you are right Baz very poor business..
8.) 25 Mar 2025 16:11:47
ED001.That's exactly what should happen . if they don't sign within the 2 years left . then on the transfer list they go. no matter who they are . n let them sign for whoever pay the most money even if it's our rivals.
9.) 25 Mar 2025 18:14:54
Mifgt as well do that, Rome1977! cos the amount of people who just blatantly insult this fella despite not knowing who he is nor what he does, is just cringe.
16 Mar 2025 20:35:37
On the plus side, I think that might be the last time we ever have to watch Diogo Jota and Darwin Nuñez play for liverpool at Wembley.
1.) 16 Mar 2025 20:39:45
YNWA aye El Bob ?.
2.) 16 Mar 2025 20:57:48
On the flip side you ll see one of them start against Everton who will bully then.
3.) 16 Mar 2025 22:02:04
Yeah, fair to say Chiesa showed more in 20 mins than both of them (+ Salah if we’re honest) did in the rest of the match, or any recent matches.
I’d have no objection to trying Chiesa from the start in coming matches; really could not contribute any less than Jota and Nunez have of late.
14 Mar 2025 11:31:40
Treated myself to some wonderful morning viewing, a compilation of corrupt refereeing decisions that have gone Real Madrid's way since 1998. A personal favourite is their extra time against Bayern Munich, if you're ever looking for proof of match-fixing, feel free to indulge yourself
Anyway, it's made me feel better about the exit to PSG. When UEFA decide it's Real Madrid's year, there isn't much you can do to stop it. It would be pretty futile us advancing further just to lose 1-0 in the final, to a penalty awarded for a clean Endo tackle on the halfway line
The Atletico game was enough evidence to me that it will be Real's year once again. Barcelona and PSG playing some wonderful football for nothing, I feel sorry for them in advance of their eventual heartbreak
To think Perez had the cheek to moan about corruption earlier this season, the greatest double bluffer of all time.
If we are a serious club, and want to win the Champions League. Then the best business we can do this summer is to sign a priest, imam, rabbi and a Buddhist monk. Perhaps they can all come together to defeat the forces of evil. (Obviously Isak would be good as well)
1.) 14 Mar 2025 11:42:17
I’m sure some people only follow football so they can be offended daily or play the victim card.
Football is meant to be entertainment.
Fans should put their keyboards away turn the internet off and go and watch a game, be it Liverpool or some grassroots footie.
It’s meant to be enjoyable.
2.) 14 Mar 2025 11:57:30
Absolutely no sense of irony as you seem to be put out by a clearly unserious post.
3.) 14 Mar 2025 12:05:41
To be fair that var dissection of Alvarez penalty was pretty insane, never seen anything like it. So maybe he might have very slightly poked the ball with his toenail, it didn't move in the slightest and it didn't give him any kind of advantage whatsoever, why disallow it? And even if you insist on disallowing it, why not make him retake it?
4.) 14 Mar 2025 12:38:55
Yeah this is what baffles me mode than anything, not having a retake seems a little harsh. Also the fact they drilled a hole in Oblak before Rudiger’s pen was frankly inhumane.
5.) 14 Mar 2025 12:41:04
El bob 100% apologies. I’ll be totally honest I only read a fraction of your post rolled my eyes and replied.
My reply wasn’t even solely aimed at you but in general to some of the posts / posters I’ve seen in recent weeks.
If we believe corruption is that rife then perhaps our rival fans who are claiming that we are only winning the league because of the pens and decisions we are getting must have a valid point.
Or to any one who disagrees is it a case of everything in football is corrupt except LFC.
6.) 14 Mar 2025 13:39:02
? agree JK. I think there are elements of corruption in the game, that much is obvious. It happens in every sport and pretty much anywhere there is big money involved. But it’s a lot more complex than any of us could understand and nobodies theory will be right. In the Premier League it’s far more likely to be random and involve gambling than favouring any one team in particular.
7.) 14 Mar 2025 13:54:27
El bob I’m Probably subconsciously refusing to see it mate.
Soon as I see it will be the day I stop watching professional football mate and return to Saturday grass roots.
8.) 14 Mar 2025 14:41:21
I would probably avoid watching a re-run of South Korea’s 2002 World Cup knockout games then, or going down the rabbit hole of what the referee from their quarter final is upto now.
9.) 14 Mar 2025 15:16:19
I'm with JK on this and have said the same, on here, over the last few months. The day that it's proven that there is corruption in the English Premier League I will start supporting Stourbridge.
10.) 14 Mar 2025 16:11:19
El bob not going to lie I’ve got little interest in international football mate.
If we don’t win the league somehow this season I’m sure we can blame it on South Korea 23 years ago mate ?.
11.) 14 Mar 2025 17:21:46
I'm with Bob on this. Also, The South Korea run was so obviously match fixing. I remember at the time we all thought it.
12.) 14 Mar 2025 17:58:17
Fun fact but if Lee Young Pyo didn’t miss an open goal in the 2005 champions league semi final, we wouldn’t have played AC Milan in the final and therefore the miracle of Istanbul wouldn’t have happened. I’ve no idea what point I’m trying to make but I thought I’d share anyway.
12 Mar 2025 10:49:41
Diogo Jota - offers nothing apart from goals, but he's a lethal goalscorer. Brilliant finisher. Ice cold killer - 0.36 goals per game
Roberto Firmino - never scores, "false striker" all round play is great but can't put the ball in the net enough - 0.32 goals per game
Not going to moan about last night too much because most of it has already been said and I'll be made up with the league.
But it's time for this Diogo Jota scam to end. He's benefited from the same bizarre PR as Jermain Defoe. Everyone has decided he's some kind of superb goalscorer with very little evidence to back it up, besides a bang average record
Never fit either. Never been good enough for Liverpool aside from a purple patch in the first half of 21/ 22. Time to move on from him (and obviously Nunez)
1.) 12 Mar 2025 11:11:35
Stats are great if you want to bash a player but where are the stats about the goals he scored, how many have been important to the team at a time we needed them.
We can't have 3 30 goal a season front men, although it would be nice. Our team weren't superstars when Klopp put them together but they worked hard for each other.
A quote from Harvey Elliott the other day went something along the lines of Allison played so well he felt he had to pay him back, he was on the bench and still felt that duty.
We are lucky we have a squad who respect each other and are willing to go the extra yard and raise their ability levels for the team.
2.) 12 Mar 2025 11:31:14
I agree with your conclusion, that Jota is probably a player I would replace, and even ahead of Darwin, but I'm afraid the stats don't quite add up Bob as you count games but not minutes, hence does not take into account which appearances were from the start vs a sub on for, say, the last 20 mins.
Across Jota's (almost) 5 seasons with is, he has averaged 115mins per G/ A. I've included assists too as the way we have played under Klopp and Slot we don't have a target man per se, Salah tends to score the most goals and therefore an assist (usually to Mo! ) should have equal worth to a goal,
Across Bobby's 8 seasons with us, he averaged 135 mins per G/ A.
If we ONLY look at goals, Jota's avg is 154mins, Bobby's is 227 mins, so again Jota seems to be more of a goalscorer than Bobby. Your calcs are probably skewed by looking at games, not mins as Jota has more often been a sub.
In fact, in Bobby's first 6 years with us, he averaged around 3,600 minutes per season (across all comps), and it was only in his last 2 seasons that dropped to around 1,750 mins.
Jota, meanwhile, has only averaged 1,975 mins per season, and in fact that is skewed by an outlier in 21-22 when he played more than 3,500 mins. If you take that out (and bearing in mind 24-25 isn't finished yet) he has averaged around 1,575 mins per season. So, either he's being used as a sub or injured (or both! ) .
Finally, your characterisation of Bobby in particular was a view held by some on the board, but the majority (imo anyway) saw Bobby's alround contribution and valued him for that - this is shown in the fact that he has a far higher ratio of assists to goals (2:3) than Jota (1:3).
So, I agree Jota should leave at the end of the season and I also agree that a prime Bobby would be more useful to us than Jota, but I just fancied messing around with some stats for a bit!
3.) 12 Mar 2025 11:38:12
He's had a very poor season. Usually he has a little purple patch in the season but this year, nothing at all.
I have a little bit of sympathy as the the last two big injuries he got were from two big CBs falling on him vs Brentford and Chelsea.
However, it does look like it's his time to go this summer. We might need to be prepared to take a loss on him given his injury record.
As it stands, quite worrying that we have Salah, Jota, Darwin, Lucho and Chiesa with uncertain futures at the club. How are we going to deal with all this in the summer?
4.) 12 Mar 2025 12:15:54
Good last question there, Pelican.
5.) 12 Mar 2025 13:04:32
Good questions FPF.
Personally, I would do the following with our forwards:
Re-sign Salah - I think it's already done.
Sell Jota and/ or Darwin depending on offers. Replace with 1 great striker - Isak, Cunha etc
Bring in Danns to get experience
Bring back Doak too.
If we sell Lucho, I would look to get another versatile forward - ideally one that is a left footed right winger as both Danns and Doak are right footed - maybe Bakayoko - Slot will certainly know him well enough from the Dutch league.
02 Mar 2025 15:33:20
I know I've gone on about him but the one player I would love us to sign is Bradley Barcola. Seriously worth looking out for on Wednesday (although ideally I hope I'm made to look silly and he has an absolute stinker)
He looks so tailor made for us and English football though. Fast, strong, great touch and so skilful. Has the perfect balance of being constantly willing to dribble but never greedy either.
1.) 02 Mar 2025 15:45:19
pipe dream am afraid. PSG are not selling their French starlet.
2.) 02 Mar 2025 16:15:40
He's a left winger, is he not? After this season, I reckon Gakpo has got the left wing position sewn up for us. If Diaz leaves, I expect we'll sign a younger back up, not a guaranteed starter like Barcola would want to be.
3.) 02 Mar 2025 16:18:19
Bradley "BAR-CODE" he will need plenty of "SCANS" I would imagine!
He may well turn out to be "Priceless", when checked out, should imagine their will be a Queue for him!
4.) 02 Mar 2025 17:08:19
Very good player, zaire Emery and doue also top talents for sure. I think psg kind of flatter to deceive in Europe though, they struggle against physical opposition and are often caught upfield on the break, if we can bully them in the middle of the park (ruiz, neves and zaire Emery are hardly powerhouses in midfield) and choose the right times to press and exploit the gaps when they have the ball, they will have an extremely hard time imposing themselves on the game.
We have a team that can rough it up and win a game comfortably even if we don't have the majority of the ball, psg do not. Think that will be the difference between the two teams.
5.) 02 Mar 2025 19:34:32
They've conceded goals against some pretty average opposition so not too worried.
6.) 02 Mar 2025 22:07:44
Love it 007.
7.) 02 Mar 2025 22:17:20
@007 your use of quotation marks give me the fear.
8.) 02 Mar 2025 22:49:43
PSG ain't letting that kid go. they have invested a ton in him so I don't see him moving. Also, we would only go for him if either Diaz or Gakpo were to leave.
Gakpo is going nowhere and Barcola ain't holding bench should Diaz go so again, don't see it happening. We have issues elsewhere that we need to address. Left wing ain't o e of them, IMO.
08 Apr 2025 12:58:32
Don't think there is much sense in getting rid of Nunez to sign Osimhen. They're the same basic player.
24 Mar 2025 20:44:40
Hujsen would be the better signing, Branthwaite would be funnier. So I’m torn.
14 Mar 2025 16:20:37
I know I haven’t seen someone suggest Vlahovic. Dear me
Watch him for a couple of games and you’ll think Darwin has a better touch than Dennis Bergkamp. Horrible, horrible footballer.
Scamacca is better than Vlahovic.
19 Feb 2025 01:13:19
One thing I’ll give him credit for, it takes some effort to be the most unlikeable Mr Oliver in a country where Jamie exists.
15 Feb 2025 17:01:08
Phil we are more than capable of monitoring until 2029. Do not underestimate the monitoring capacity of the kings of monitoring.
15 Apr 2025 00:33:54
Getting turned down on deadline day by Carlton Cole and Luke Young was a low point of the Hodgson era.
09 Apr 2025 11:08:03
I’m not a massive fan of Rice as an overall player and that hasn’t changed just because he scored two free kicks. However I am a massive fan of his set pieces and I do wonder why on Earth he hasn’t been first choice set piece taker for club and country his whole career. Weird one, his corners are 10/ 10 too.
08 Apr 2025 12:57:31
Diaz to Barcelona seems highly unlikely now Raphinia has turned things round, and he certainly doesn't start ahead of Yamal. Saudi seems the most likely destination again I'd suggest, Napoli as a Kvara replacement also possible?
25 Mar 2025 16:02:15
Agree with everything apart from the “good luck” bit. I’m about to start a business exporting white handkerchiefs to Spain.
25 Mar 2025 15:17:20
Ed unfortunately Julian Fraud slander isn’t popular enough, and he also isn’t new so this joke wouldn’t work. Please don’t let facts get in the way of an agenda.