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09 Aug 2019 06:37:49
Our closest rivals last season was City (1st) and Chelsea (3rd) .
City lost 1 of their best defenders, a player who's goal arguably won them the title.
Chelsea lost their best player.
We didn't do any major signing, but we kept our squad almost intact. We may have not strengthened in terms of new signings, but we didn't weaken either.
1.) 09 Aug 2019 06:58:24
No offence, Andy, but your post refers to our first eleven. If none of them get injured or lose form or get exhausted, we should expect to replicate our league standing from last year.
Most posters who have hoped for a signing or two point at our lack of squad depth as a potential problem. If two or three key players are out for a sustained period, do we have good enough players to deputise? We have cover for each position but do we have quality?
Id say our best eleven players could absolutely win the league this year but i would be a tad nervous if we lost either fullback or Mane/ Firmino for more than a few matches.
2.) 09 Aug 2019 07:44:06
Well city have sane going for an ACL operation so they may be without him for a while to. As far as I'm concerned, it's a new season, I'm extremely excited. I trust all our players because i know and love them all and know what they will bring to the table. A flashy new toy would have been exciting too, but I just want to watch this first game because as I said, im excited and can't wait for the season to kick off. let's go boys!
3.) 09 Aug 2019 07:52:10
The goal that arguably won them the league. What about the other 94 goals they scored and 95 points they gained without that goal. Kompany featured in less than half their premier league games last season. Hazard is a huge loss for Chelsea though.
4.) 09 Aug 2019 08:09:17
I think we did just good enough with our backups in the cl and league last year.
And why does everybody keep assuming our entire team will get injured or loose form?
How does x player helps in anyway if he is not playing day in day out and is a backup only. People are assuming any x player we signed will replace any player we loose seamlessly?
We are talking about backups for golden boot winners for last season. There is no one that good to come from bench and replicate what we have.
{Ed025's Note - if you dont get injuries akshit then thats great, but if you do you are very short of adequate cover mate and your kidding yourself if you think otherwise..
5.) 09 Aug 2019 08:22:08
I sat there yesterday trying to pick the 18 man squad for today's game and realized that no matter how you shape it there will be at least 2/ 3 very disappointed players who will be left out. (matchday squad including Origi starting and Brewster on the bench) . Our squad is big enough that keeping everybody happy is already a challenge and this is real life, not fantasy football. Our youth players are good enough to deputize for a few games should the need arise. Buying a senior player to sit on the bench isn't going to change our season. Klopp has repeatedly said we won't sign a player just to sign a player and the really good players that he would actually like (Pepe, Brandt etc. ) generally want game-time guarantees that we can't offer.
Singing players for the role of understudy just in case Trent, Robbo, Mane or whoever get injured isn't an ideal solution nor entirely necessary either. Gomez/ Hoever + Milner/ Larouchi and Brewster are there for that. With 6 defenders, 7 midfielders and 5 forwards we will be fine, it just shows that Klopp values quality over quantity. Having a compact elite-standard squad in which everyone has a role to play is what he wants and has. Remember Rodgers repeatedly signing below-par players and look at what his bloated squad won.
Just enjoy the game tonight everyone. Norwich are a good little team but I've a feeling we're going to give them a good rollicking welcome back to the Prem. This group of players have the anger and the greed to win every game.
6.) 09 Aug 2019 09:23:28
How are we short ed? Enlighten me mate. We definitely have cover for evwry position on the pitch.
I think this is more of a case of under rating the players we have.
Players like shaq origi keita ox lovren can be first team players or subs for any team but city. And these are our subs.
I think we are in reasonable position. Yes not city level but but still enough to win the league.
Lets get this straight shall we won't be winning the league unless other teams stopa dropping dropping their pants when they face them.
{Ed025's Note - they dont drop their pants akshit they are just too good for most teams, you are short in attack if you get a bad injury to one of the front 3 mate, lets be honest origi can only be trusted to play for about 20 minutes and brewster is just a kid...not bringing in decent forward cover could end up biting you in the arse..
7.) 09 Aug 2019 09:44:51
Akrubbish I’d like to think that Keita will be a starter this season mate otherwise he is an expensive sub. When Our midfield 3 consists of 3 from Hendo, Milner, Fab and Wiji it is great against better midfields where we go out and out work and disrupt them. But for me we lack an attacking edge from midfield when we play against the so called lesser teams. Would like to see Klopp be more adventurous with his midfield selection and I’m hoping Kieta and Ox give him that option this year and even a more advanced Wiji. Just my opinion though.
8.) 09 Aug 2019 07:12:48
Why be nervous? Pretty sure we were still winning games with Gomez at full back despite him not being quite as good going forward but I still remember him whipping some decent balls in. We beat Barcelona without Firmino (and Salah) . And what’s wrong with a front 3 of bobby mo and Origi? People moan our back ups aren’t good enough but they forget we are spoilt by the quality of our first team. Some of them are some of the best in the world so yeah the back ups in comparision aren’t as good but they are still good players! Stop whinging and enjoy tonight, the footy is back on!
9.) 09 Aug 2019 09:56:51
Keita is going to be huge this season. I can't wait to see what the little magician pulls out of his hat. He had a rocky introduction to the PL last season but now he's accustomed I think he'll be difference every other game. My mystic ball is tingling! (No puns)
10.) 09 Aug 2019 09:57:52
Ed025 you seem to be forgetting we've still got the Scottish PFA Young Player of the Year. If he's not a decent forward then I don't know who, uhm, yeah you might have a point actually.
But Sadi-Bobbio-Mo will be fine, and I think Brewster and Elliot could turn a few heads this season, while hopefully Shaqiri can find some form.
{Ed025's Note - i think elliot could certainly turn a few heads JM, if he walks down wavertree high street with that stupid bun on his head mate.. :)
11.) 09 Aug 2019 10:05:37
We won the cl without Firmino. He didn't play in the semi finals and was carried in the final. Salah and Firmino lost form for large parts of last season.
When we play full power football no one can live with us. Klopp's plan is to keep the midfield fresher than last year. Keita and Fabs only played half a season, Shaq was settling in. Lallana and Ox were injured all season. Gini was knackered at the end as he was played too much.
With normal injuries our squad is plenty deep enough. It can be argued our 5th choice midfielder Milner, 6th choice Ox, 7th Lallana. That is better than what City have.
Brewster will surprise all, he will get goals.
12.) 09 Aug 2019 10:16:45
So ed1 said that like of pepe weren't going to come and sit on our bench. If that is true, then the market is guys of similar caliber to origi, shaq etc we've not sold them so we're not going to waste millions on role players to sit in the stands right
Ed25 - it's not really about red tinted glasses, it's the reality of our squd currently and the moves we could make. You lot have made additions cos you needed to and had serious gaps to fill. I'm fine backing our squad especially when it didn't seem like there was much tinkering that could happen anyways.
{Ed025's Note - i get your point faith, but i think this season will be harder than the last one because most teams have strengthened, it will be won with less than 90 points imo and i dont know if liverpool will be strong enough with what they have mate, but time will tell i suppose and you could well add in january mate..
13.) 09 Aug 2019 10:52:49
Thats a good point, we have more than enough to get to Christams and then we can re assess. If we need a fill a certain position we can sort it in Jan.
14.) 09 Aug 2019 11:26:57
I actually agree with you Ed, however I suspect Shaqiri is probably going to be used more than we think (maybe even Ox too on the wing) and then Salah able to slot into CF. It may not come down to Origi and Brewster too often.
You’re right though and we should have bought a wide forward in. City can play Sterling, Aguero and Bernardo Silva for starters and still turn to Sane, Jesus and Mahrez if they get injuries or need an impact sub. We just don’t have the depth to compete with that unfortunately.
By comparison however our defence is much better than theirs. It just doesn’t get exposed all that often because they are so damn good at controlling games.
Let’s hope our front three stay fit and Shaqiri has a storming season. He’s the one backup forward with experience and also a bit of X factor (as much as I love Origi) .
15.) 09 Aug 2019 11:00:38
Ed25 - definitely harder mate! For me my mentality is this is our squad and I'm backing them over anyone else win or lose!
{Ed025's Note - i applaud you faith, i will always back my team whatever other people say...its called being a true supporter mate..
16.) 09 Aug 2019 13:22:14
Ed025
you keep saying other teams have strengthened but nobody knows how these players will settle or if they will settle.
Liverpool have a settled squad who know from day one how others play and that counts.
It will be between City and Liverpool and it will be over 90 points again.
If Everton play really well and bond early they might even help us capture the title.
{Ed025's Note - dont rule out spurs polecat, i really believe that its a 3 horse race now after that window mate..
17.) 09 Aug 2019 13:52:00
haha, nice one Ed025. So are you concerned about Everton's CB options? I can imagine yourselves and Leicester scoring lots and conceding. Plenty of 4-3 wins. Should be fun! :)
{Ed025's Note - yeah that could be a problem for us JM, its time for mina to step up and show his worth but gbamin can play there as well so we do have options mate..
18.) 10 Aug 2019 05:51:04
I don't really feel many of the top 6 rivals have strengthened much. City have lost delph, kompany, danilo in defence and cancelo and angelino bought in. Rodri offers midfield strength but loss of sane sees them weaker.
Arsenal have strengthened with Tierney but David luiz doesn't sort that defence with koscielny now gone. Ceballos isn't a huge upgrade on losing Ramsey while Pepe I don't rate highly. Iwobi, welbeck, cech gone also.
United have strengthened at RB and CB but with 2 players yet to prove top class status. Bailly out injured for months. They sold their most prolific striker and bought no one in to replace. Signed a young championship winger with little experience while losing herrera for free.
Chelsea have lost luiz and Cahill as CB options, Hudson adoi and loftus cheek injured. Lost hazard their star player and have no top quality striker. Pulisic yet to prove he's good enough yet.
I feel spurs are the only side who have strengthened considerably with ndombele, Sessegnon and lo celso. Key is they haven't lost any big players yet, trippier being the only.
Hazard, lukaku, sane, Ramsey all players who were able to offer their team double figures in goals or assists. None of them really replaced or upgraded. Kompany, koscielny, Luiz, trippier, all first choice experienced defenders either not replaced or not upgraded in quality.
Liverpool have not disrupted or weakened our squad but I don't feel there has been much strengthening from our rivals at all.
29 May 2019 09:03:18
Getting to the finals and then losing last year was harsh on all of us.
It felt like we had our chance, but blew it.
But now, getting to another final a year later, shows us fans that we are more than capable of getting to the semis and probably finals quite often. I feel this takes a lot of pressure off the team?
This season has already proved that this team is filled with greatness.
Can't wait for Saturday.
1.) 29 May 2019 09:59:04
Big teams lose finals all the time, but they also win finals a lot. This one is a must win. All due respect to Spurs they're a great side but they are no Real Madrid we must put them to the sword and bring old big ears home where he belongs.
2.) 30 May 2019 07:16:04
Andy Fields, we did not blow last year's final. How could we have blown a final where so many uncontrollable circumstances went against us? That's just crazy. Mind you, we were NEVER favs. for ANY of the finals we have played under Klopp.
We were NEVER favs. vs RM in last year's final. Many of us just agreed that we had a chance against we did and until Salah got injured, we gave them hell. Would he have won had Salah not been injured? I don't know BUT we would have had a great chance cos they were terrified of him. Either way, not interested in re-litigating the past. It is time to make this one count and I am sure our boys will be ready.
25 Apr 2019 08:11:05
Look at who City dropped points against this season, it wasnt always against the top 6 teams. there's STILL HOPE.
1.) 25 Apr 2019 15:22:54
Agreed. A draw at burnley isn't unfathomable and a draw at Leicester is not at all out of the question. i've felt we have a better chance at big ears for a while though.
2.) 25 Apr 2019 17:01:15
Andy, there is ALWAYS hope. As they say, you can last a few days w/ o water. You will NOT last a second w/ o hope. The last I checked the Fat Lady ain't started singing yet and till that happens, I'm keeping the faith.
That is the least these brilliant manager and lads deserve. If we turn our backs on them now then we are no better than the real bottlers. You know, the ones that call their own players they claim to support, bottlers.
3.) 25 Apr 2019 18:10:57
Redwolf you mean like you and Matip. There must be 20 posts of you slagging Matip.
4.) 25 Apr 2019 18:56:49
Mark08, and you have slagged off Hendo all season for no reason at all BUT the diff. btw me and you is that OI love Hendo and Hendo is quality and he is showing it again in his right position. Matip on the other hand is crap and has been crap for the past two season which is why he NEVER smelled the field till Gomez and and Lovs got injured. Also, were VVD not next to him, we would be in a world of pain. I slag off players who are lazy, lack concentration etc. like Matip is. You slag off Hendo who gives his all for the team, does what he is told, serves his team mates selflessly and is reaping the rewards. Spot the diff., mate.
5.) 25 Apr 2019 20:36:12
You have gone OTT as usual. You have wrote the same thing on Matip far too many times, he is like your enemy that you are just praying makes a mistake.
Hendo a good guy, top pro, started to play better recently but where was he in the big matches our finals, v City, Man U Everton in the leagueue? No where is sadly the answer. If you want to be a top player you have to do it in the biggest games.
No one says Matip is a top player but he is doing his best. You think Hendo is a top player I think he is more Gini level who has actually been far better this season. Both levels down from the 4 midfielders City have. I am sure you don't think Hendo gets in the City side, Matip would have more chance.
05 Feb 2019 12:30:21
I hope 1 of the Ed's can assist me with this question.
Are the FA going to cancel the league this season?
I've heard a sidde competing for the league should it draw 2 games in a row, and i was wondering surely then, a side that lost 2 games in a row should also not be competing for the league. So that leaves City out as well, and then pretty much every team below then have lost and/ drawn matches.
So what will happen? Should the FA cancel the league now?
{Ed001's Note - I have no idea what you are asking.}
1.) 05 Feb 2019 12:55:59
I think Andy's post is an attempt at a sarcastic swipe at the hysteria after last night's match Ed?
{Ed001's Note - I don't know I couldn't figure it out sorry.}
2.) 05 Feb 2019 13:07:10
It’s his failed attempt at being funny and trying to say there’s an overreaction happening.
3.) 05 Feb 2019 13:07:13
As some wise man said, someone is teasing you.
4.) 05 Feb 2019 13:19:37
Im jealous andy, 12.30 in the day and your on the sauce already.
5.) 05 Feb 2019 18:10:43
It’s always 5pm somewhere in the world, Wolverine 😉.
6.) 05 Feb 2019 22:23:08
The obvious answer is “yes, the FA should cancel the league†ðŸ‘.
05 Jan 2019 07:24:06
When the opposition scored, most cases it's because of a defensive error. I prefer to use the term wrong decision instead of mistake/ error.
We are very quick to blame the usual suspects. If Mignolet was in goal, he would have been torn apart for being beaten at the near post.
Wrong decisions by attacking players results in us not scoring a vital goal, but that isn't as harshly judged as a defensive error that results in us conceding a goal. If Mane ained the ball 2cm to the right, that would have went in off the post
I think we didn't lose a game we were outplayed or made too many blatant errors. 6 weeks ago, everyone felt it was Cities title, so the fact that there was not much between us over 2 games, shows that we really are title contenders, and the fact that we have a lead, shows we still have an excellent chance.
1.) 05 Jan 2019 09:52:33
I agree to a point but there’s being beaten at the near post and there’s having the ball being smashed past you from 5 yards away.
I wouldn’t have blamed any keeper for conceding that.
You’re right though it was a tight game which could’ve easily gone our way. We’re still top and still in control of our own destiny with our most difficult game left Utd away.
I’m not concerned at all.
2.) 05 Jan 2019 11:14:18
I just thought we set out for a draw and that doesn't suit us we can't decide to just play for a draw against the likes of city
Should have pressed and went for it we played for a draw at napoli aswell and lost
So why not just go for it if ya get ahead with 30 to go see it out.
3.) 05 Jan 2019 12:41:20
It a was a naive approach to sit back. And one I knew we'd try. Suited Man City all night until late In the game when we actually attacked.
4.) 05 Jan 2019 12:57:15
Dezy, I agree that it seemed we set out for a draw in that game BUT what people fail to grasp is that last season when we pummeled City 3 out of 4 times, we pretty much played the exact same system. We let them have the ball, stayed compact and then pounce on them as soon as they lost the ball with the EXACT same midfield trio (bar Ox and Can in the 4-3 win at Anfield) . And for the most part, it worked cos City had only on shot in the first half (the goal) and did not have their second shot until Sane's goal. Had we had the breaks City had, we don't lose or prolly win and no one is saying anything critical about the approach. Credit to City as well for the way they played. That's football, my friend. On to Wolves.
5.) 05 Jan 2019 14:35:16
RedWolf I disagree pal we just wanted to pass it around the back it's not our game we tried for a draw with napoli and lost aswell
Just go for it we are a very good side who can attack and defend if the balance is right
And for me in this moment I think the Henderson Milner and wijnaldum in the middle is far to stale and are happy to go sideways with there passes I didn't think fabinho would be more attacking then those 3 when we singed him!
Looking forward to seen fabinho I'll be of those 3 and Keita in front later this season.
6.) 05 Jan 2019 16:54:56
I think both midfields struggled to keep the ball down. We looked much better when fab came on and had the confidence to turn with the ball and look up for passes. I think that tells us we showed city too much respect.
Alison can't be blamed for the first goal. The guy has been a class act since he joined. Migs had odd spells where he played well but way way way too many mistakes. It's like comparing Steven Gerrard and Kevin kilbane.
We could have won the game. We were not out played at all and I still honestly believe we are the better team. I'm a massive Henderson fan but maybe fab should have started instead.
7.) 05 Jan 2019 21:02:17
I disagree, Dezy. We have used the same midfield before and won an several occasions. We did it vs City twice in the CL last season and vs Roma when we thumped them 5-2. Also, it was the same midfield that bossed Napoli at home (even tho we lost at Napoli with that midfield as well) and the combo that got us to the CL final. Was that midfield combo stale back then? Were we just passing it around back then as well when scoring goals for fun? Exactly. You can't just say the combo does not work cos we lost but ignore the many times that it did work. That is not how footie works. Sometimes, you go with what you know has worked for the most part in the past in hope that it will work again, . There are NO certainties in football. Neither is hindsight a relevant thing in football.
You can disagree with the formation and that is fine BUT who says had Fab played, it would have worked? Who says that had we gone more offensive it would have worked and had it not, ould you still say it was the right decision or would you use hindsight to say we should have tried to contain them early on?
Remember that Fab struggled vs Arsenal when they pressed us at the Emirates and City pressed us way more and better than Arsenal ever did and maybe Klopp considered that and played the combo that has worked in big games and who are used to being pressed to death and knowing how to react to it.
I maintain that the combo for the most part worked and City had only 1 shot in the first half. It was a shame that Aguero's goal was amazing cos if not, we are comfortable with City not laying a hand on us. In fact, we had the best chance of the first half with Mane and another ref sends Kompany off. We did not get those breaks and that is what lost us the game, overall. I'm cool with that cos City shaded it by a hare's breathe. Klopp got it right, IMO and we're going to have to agree to disagree on this one, pal.
8.) 05 Jan 2019 23:26:59
Spot on, boys. When a goal is conceded most of the time, it is due to a collection of errors BUT the one who commits the last error (cos he has to react to the comedy of errors that happened beforehand), gets the blame which is unfair BUT that is how it is. Check out the second goal. TAA is out of position and Lovren has to choose who to pick up between Sane and Aguero. He picks Aguero cos he is in his zone thru the middle. TAA is late on the cover out wide and Mane does not track Sane's run from deep. Lovren then leaves Aguero to contain Sane, the shot is taken and TAA is late on the block. Goal. Who got the blame? Lovs cos well it is the easier thing to do.
As for the first goal, you have to tip your hat to Aguero cos with another striker, the play is actually well defended by Lovren forcing him into an impossible position to score and ONLY Aguero could have scored that cos he is just an animal and also, he did the same thing to DDG when they played Utd this season as well. We live, we learn, we move on to Wolves.
08 Jun 2016 14:12:58
If he was just at the game because he was on holiday, then why leave before the game ended? Wasn't he the one that asked people to stay for the full games?
27 Jan 2019 10:00:28
If we got 140 for Coutinho, Salah must be closer to 200.
14 Jan 2019 05:48:34
We have sold Solanki already, maybe another 2 or 3 soon. Why are we assuming that we would only buy if we sell a starter (player from the starting 11)?
10 Dec 2018 06:11:18
People celebrate 8n different ways. Forget the jumping up and down, or the high fives or the slides etc, just look at Mo's determination in his eyes when he scores, and the look on his face. He is happy to score, he is happy for the team, he is happy he put his side in a better position. He just doesn't celebrate the way others do!
07 Nov 2018 07:40:59
Its not just the loss! But the way we have been playing recently!
24 Sep 2018 06:06:46
It actually makes me think its not worth posting here anymore. Did any of you not see the first few words of my post? I said we played well!
Are we less of a supporter if we ask questions that may make us better?
There are 2 parts to my post, 1 was about us not scoring from distance. I feel that teams are going to pack the box, which is going to make ot hard for us to thread through the defence. This was clear in the second half. So buy us scoring a few goals from distance, or even just taking a few shots, will add to our attack, and teams won't just sit back around the box
The second part was not meant as a critism of how well we are playing, it was merely me stating that I would have liked for us to try to win by 4 goals to close down the goal difference or open up a bigger gap. I didn't say we have to start playing like city in every way!
We just need to try and get that killer instinct that we had last season, 1 goal or 2 goals were not enough, the team always tried to score more.