Liverpool Rumours Archive August 09 2021

09 Aug 2021 20:10:03
Shaqiri to Lyon.

09 Aug 2021 21:18:46
ed0666 if they are in for Shaq would you be happy if we used him as a make weight to sign Aouar. I did not see him last season but the season before he looked quality when I did see him only just turned 23 so good age.

{Ed0666's Note - I’d take Aour oven Bowen and Sanchez yes. There is a quality player there and I feel with the right guidance he could be very very good

09 Aug 2021 21:45:31
Me too, Ed666.

09 Aug 2021 21:50:59
I don't know how true it is ed see his asking price was about £25m and if that true seem a no brainer. £10m and Shaq would be perfect but from what I have seen from the last 2 friendlies If we signed nobody with Ox looking like him self from 3 seasons ago before his injury and Minamino looks like the player that played against us but he looked a lot stronger.
Really looking forward to the season ahead I don't care what people think come may I sure we will be champions again think we are going to be like we was 2 season ago.
YNWA.

09 Aug 2021 22:51:44
ED0666 - now Messi has left Barca, do you expect them to push to sign Saul?

Also, I’ve scanned all the other rumours websites plus the European pages to lads if I can find out if any other EPL sides are looking at Saul but could not find anything. Do you happen to know where there is serious intetrst?

Regards,

KR65.

{Ed0666's Note - I really don’t think Barca are in any position to sign Saul without departures. If I was a betting man Saul will be a Inited player but I’m hoping Edwards has a rabbit up his sleeve but hoping those rabbits aren’t Sanchez and Bowen.

10 Aug 2021 00:59:54
What is the fixation with money some fans have . We as fans have nor a clue how finances work in a club. The best think to do is hope the club hierarchy do and hope for good signings and stop playing fantasy football in your heads.

10 Aug 2021 08:20:23
If it is financially impossible to sign Saul this summer, we should just leave it. None of the above mentioned (Bowen, Sanches, Aouar) are good enough for us.

10 Aug 2021 10:01:06
Unless Lyon offer substantially more than the Alleged £5m they will not be getting Shaq.

10 Aug 2021 10:06:29
If it is financially impossible to sign Mendy or Brandt this summer we should just leave it. None of the above mentioned (Robertson, Salah) are good enough for us.

I'm not trying to be glib, Lowe, but if we do sign any of the names you have mentioned (Bowen, Sanches, Aouar) then I have faith in the recruitment team and Klopp.

10 Aug 2021 10:26:18
Zeddicus, no need to be snarky. My opinion is that Liverpool should be targeting among the best players around now. We have an unreal football team, and should be focusing on two additions a year to improve the first team and therefore the squad, with the remaining places given to promising youngsters from the academy. I don’t see any of the names mentioned improving our first team. If we don’t have the money to improve the first team directly, wait and look for future avenues to do so.

10 Aug 2021 11:31:25
I wasn't being to be snarky Lowe, I was just pointing out that there have been players in the past that we all (me included) have thought wouldn't improve the team and therefore we should keep our powder dry.

However, subsequently, those players have ended up key members of our first team and whose values have skyrocketed. Robbo is the prime example - I was completely and utterly underwhelmed by us getting an £8m LB from a relegated team rather than the (new shiny) Mendy who ended up going to City. I was completely and utterly wrong and Klopp and the recruitment team saw something that I, and the vast majority of other posters, didn't see. Mane was the same, possibly Salah, Gini etc. The only players that I saw as being obvious improvements were VVD (albeit I thought we overpaid) and Alisson. I also think Konate will be a great addition.

So, how can I, or you, say that the names that you have mentioned are not the right players to move us forward?

We must remember that the names we are being linked with are, predominantly, coming from tabloids. We don't know what's really going on behind closed doors of the recruitment team.

10 Aug 2021 11:46:17
Never mind Zeddicus those of us who are blessed with insight and predictive powers over and above those of the LFC recruitment team will continue to have the long view of the best signings.

10 Aug 2021 11:49:26
Difference between Robertson and Salah and Sanches and Bowen is that both Robertson and Salah were consistently brilliant for their respective clubs prior to joining us. It’s fair to say that Sanches hasn’t been all that good for Lille (I’m not swayed by a couple of “ok” performances in international tournaments the fact he’s barely played half the available games for Lille says a lot) and Bowen has been ok for West Ham but not exceptional, and certainly not worth a £35m outlay considering we have Jota, Minamino, Elliott and Ox already at the club. If we’ve got the money for those two, we’d be just better off putting all our eggs in one basket and buying Saul or Bissouma.

10 Aug 2021 11:55:46
Few players at Lyon I would like if a swap+cash is on the table for Shaq. Maxence Caqueret and Lucas Paqueta, the latter having some very good G/ A stats (granted it's ligue1)

10 Aug 2021 12:23:44
FWIW, Sanches is the one that would leave me scratching my head.

Effectively getting Bowen for the sales value of Phillips and Origi (cash out - cash in or partial/ full player swaps) could be interesting to see.

I've always been a fan of Aouar since we were linked some time back.

{Ed025's Note - commeth the aouar commeth the man.. :)

10 Aug 2021 13:45:10
THIS! This is why I would like to see Aouar! Pun-tastic! Thanks 25!

{Ed025's Note - no problem zed mate.. :)

10 Aug 2021 08:27:55
Ad0666 am with you on Sanchez and Bowen, I think Bowen is a decent player but I bet West Ham will want close to £40m for him after they paid £25m and I would rather keep Shaq than pay that. As for Sanchez just don’t think he is anywhere near good enough and with his fee and wages I would rather him not come as he would take Jones and Elliott’s minutes of them.

{Ed0666's Note - I am still hopeful we don’t sign both of we do we have no choice but to support the players.

10 Aug 2021 16:45:51
Like I said above, I can see the value in Bowen, and if we are including a player in the deal then it makes it easier to get to a reasonable value, IMO - "if you overcharge for yours, we'll overcharge for ours"!

I don't see the player there in Sanches, not through lack of ability - I think he was only 18/ 19 when he played in the EPL before - but his injury record.

09 Aug 2021 18:12:55
No Phillips or Shaqiri in tonight's squad. Moves getting closer I wonder?

09 Aug 2021 18:16:33
Any update on Robs injury. Big loss if he is out for a long period.

{Ed025's Note - not yet jack..

09 Aug 2021 18:27:19
Neil Jones has mentioned that they may be on the way out, and as a result Liverpool have decided not to risk them. However he has also said that nothing is close yet.

Hope we move them on - as Shaq career has stagnated and Phillips will go the same way of he stays as 5th choice.

09 Aug 2021 19:37:32
Phillips won’t be 5th choice though, as Gomez and matip are consistent sick notes and we’re yet to see if konate is injury prone or not. VVD coming off a big injury as well, letting Phillips go over matip is extremely baffling to me. I know matip is the better player, but he’ll play less than a quarter of the season, what’s the point. Phillips earned his stripes and we reward him by letting him go. We even hesitated to play him in the first place over the likes of Rhys Williams, these are the times I question the decisions made, because they don’t seem to have any logic involved from an outsiders perspective.

09 Aug 2021 21:46:24
Kman - i understand your thinking. However i don't think Phillips wants to stay and be 5th choice and wait for Matip to get injured (which he most likely will) as then Konate or Gomez is likely to take the starting role, then you need Gomez to get injured and Konate will take the starting role and so forth.

therefore Phillips would need at least 2 of the starters to get injured to be first backup let alone start games and at his age and the season he just had, he probably feels it is the right time to move on, as he will have better suitors then if he stays a year as 4th/ 5th choice and hardly play as most teams will forget he even exists.

10 Aug 2021 22:15:27
Kman92, and what happens to Phillips if these two players actually stay fit or don’t miss that much time? You are aware that Phillips will only get a chance to play if both players are injured, right? Sorry, that is illogical, IMO.

There is simply no path for Phillips at LFC right now and it is the club’s job to do what is best for its players and do right by them. Phillips has earned the right to ply his trade in the PL at another PL club and the club should grant him his wish if that is what he wants, sick notes or not.

09 Aug 2021 14:15:24
Ed2 what's the latest regarding Renato Sanches? Is Liverpools interest confirmed?

{Ed002's Note - Renato Sanches (CM) Lille are happy to let the player move on due to the constant muscle injuries he suffers; they wanted €20M cash or €30M with payments spread out although that could increase if Jorge Mendes can find multiple bidders or if there is no sale before the season starts. Klopp has praised him in the past and he would be a more affordable replacement for Wijnaldum, but not the preferred option for Liverpool. Barcelona has a sustained interest and he would prove to them to be financially viable whilst they work their financial issues. There has been a discussion with Arsenal and he will likely be offered to Spurs as well. Prior interest of Wolves will likely have left with NES. The concern would be injury issues and, although talented, he is inconsistent. His agent says there have been further talks with bothe Liverpool and Barcelona.}

09 Aug 2021 15:27:56
Eds, is Bissouma still the most likely acquisition for MF for the reds? Are Brighton the most likely buyers for Phillips?

{Ed002's Note - No.}

09 Aug 2021 15:29:58
Will be Liverpool then.

09 Aug 2021 16:19:30
Surely our physios have enough work on their hands?

09 Aug 2021 19:39:16
VVVV, we like injury prone players unfortunately.

09 Aug 2021 12:26:48
Hi Eds, have we interest in Aurelien Tchouameni? Thanks.

{Ed002's Note - Others do but no Liverpool.}

09 Aug 2021 09:16:07
i got to say i know there is the old cliche of "like a new signing" but i think the summer off for Salah and Mane have really let them have some R&R!

Elliott is looking promising not bad for an 18 year old.

Klopps comments look like we are trying to sign 1/ 2 more potentially before the start of the season. can see Shaqiri going soon.

09 Aug 2021 10:23:59
Mane is looking very sharp!

09 Aug 2021 11:35:26
I agree Max. We Mane back to his best, he is one of our most important players. I think he will have a great season.

09 Aug 2021 13:00:55
If a unwanted player plays good oh its pre season. If a fav player plays good oh he looks sharp 🤷‍♂️.

09 Aug 2021 13:11:58
It’s only friendlies, but Mane has looked like he has that bit of pace that he was missing at times last year and he looks well rested too.

09 Aug 2021 13:45:54
Are people forgetting AFCON is this year? We literally lose both salah and mane to that, are we good with firmino, jota and Elliot and would that be sufficient enough to maintain or push a title challenge? Unless we have changed our expectations to maintaining top 4, I don’t see how people aren’t thinking we need reinforcements in this area. I understand if it’s from an economic stand point, but some people genuinely believe we don’t need reinforcements and that we would challenge without any 😂. The epitome of rose tinted glasses.

09 Aug 2021 14:24:16
Kman, we lose them for three league matches at most, and some FA/ League Cup matches which they wouldn’t have played in anyway, so for three league matches I am pretty sure that Jota, Firmino, Elliott and Ox should be more than sufficient. I’d be more worried if Henderson and Fabinho were out for any period of time as we have pretty threadbare options beyond those two.

09 Aug 2021 06:36:52
Re Sparky's latest mindbender, probably a very long shot. Ismaila fits loosely reading forwards, Sarr backwards? Origi (Belgium hint) going the opposite way?

09 Aug 2021 07:53:56
Just don't see sarr with afcon.

09 Aug 2021 13:57:24
Its chelsea and morabia.