Liverpool Rumours Archive August 09 2017

09 Aug 2017 21:41:19
from Sky sports news is Liverpool have rejected a second bid from Barcelona worth 100 million euros.

09 Aug 2017 21:58:00
"We understand Barca’s latest offer was €85m (£77m) up front plus €15m (£13m) in add-ons"

That is a vast amount of cash up front :-O

It is clear Liverpool want to keep Coutinho.

09 Aug 2017 21:58:21
Hopefully Barcelona will now go away! 👍🏼.

09 Aug 2017 21:59:22
Not just rejected IMMEDIATELY rejected!

09 Aug 2017 22:12:19
Imagine how many Nectar points that's worth!

09 Aug 2017 22:24:15
Jog on barca.

09 Aug 2017 22:26:52
Eds do we no if the latest bid for Couts included a player as suggested or not at this stage please and do you expect them to come back in?

{Ed025's Note - they will come back in MR but there is nothing yet about it including a player mate..

09 Aug 2017 22:27:18
Liverpool say not for sale and matter now closed.

{Ed025's Note - oh no its not..

09 Aug 2017 22:43:53
why do barcalona think they can just click there fingers offer us pettycash and one of there castoffs and we'll jump at the offer. on your bike barca. come back when you offer us all the neymar cash.

{Ed025's Note - £90m is petty cash...sigh..

09 Aug 2017 22:45:16
Oh hello Ed025 please tell us more. You expect Barcelona to come back with a 3rd bid?

{Ed025's Note - its just my opinion but yes uggers..

09 Aug 2017 22:27:18
Liverpool say not for sale and matter now closed.

09 Aug 2017 22:54:50
It's a sad state of affairs if your best player wants to leave given we're in the CL barring a disaster against Hoffenheim and on the genuine cusp of a real challenge for the PL. Why not just wait until next season, and if you have another corker which is likely Barcelona will still be there and in the meantime you give the club and fans that love you a bit back. If he puts in a transfer request then fair enough let him go but not for a poxy £85mil or whatever is
Being offered in instalments. Remember Suarez? Barcelona were still paying off that transfer for 3 seasons. Money is no use to you if you lose the belief of your fan base and most importantly the best manager we've had in years. I've read all the previous posts about courting Barcelona for a season etc etc but if Coutinho is honest he'll be playing 3rd maybe 4th fiddle to messi Suarez etc where at LFC he can cement legendary status with a PL title. Come on Pipco tell them you're happy at LFC and to go round the block until next season.

09 Aug 2017 22:55:15
Nooooooooooooo! Like that pain in the ass ex that won't leave you alone. Go on swim on Barcelona jeezus! Love the work you boys do to buddy!

09 Aug 2017 22:57:30
You mean like Southampton and RBL are saying their players are not for sale? No means no for us, but for others no means yes? We can't have it both ways.

09 Aug 2017 22:57:42
Or maybe we can 😏.

09 Aug 2017 22:09:16
Anything in this ed002? Would feel much more confident if you got the same info.

{Ed002's Note - I understand it is correct.}

09 Aug 2017 23:17:09
Yep we can take your players but you can't take ours. Bottom line is were now finally establishing ourselves as a club that's building a serious team that are serious about winning trophies and were not selling our best players anymore. I'm sorry Southampton but your a feeder club you have been for a long time now and made a tidy profit from us from it. I get they don't want to sell there best players now and want to establish themselves to and to be fair if they wanna stand firm and keep VVD and risk having a player that now can't stand to be at the club then crack on. Not sure I'd want him watching our backline if that was the case. Couts hasn't said he wants to leave he said he would like to play for Barcelona but won't force a move or kick up a fuss that's a massively difference circumstance to that if VVD. VVD can see were building something special here and wants to play out with us. Come on lad jump In!

09 Aug 2017 23:42:13
It's going to be around the £120 mark inc a player and we will agree it.

I hope not but if the lad wants to go that bad enough to not instantly agree to give us another year then let's wish him well and move on.

10 Aug 2017 00:18:25
I'd say only if we can get the Keita deal agreed Roro. Otherwise I think he stays no matter what the offer.

10 Aug 2017 01:09:59
So much for this Friday's press conference, eh? . Or maybe it's to announce that they will give up on Coutinho? Let's hope so.

10 Aug 2017 04:03:12
Hoffenhiem are a decent club. It is no walk over. It is a tough tough game against fitly evenly matched teams. We should edge it.

10 Aug 2017 04:27:40
I think it is US who will be calling press conference! Someone should tell Spanish press coz were coming for that European cup.

10 Aug 2017 00:36:04
With all due respect ed025, it was also once your opinion that Van Dijk was never ever ever going to happen :p.

{Ed025's Note - and it has?..must have missed that one robin..

10 Aug 2017 11:12:47
85 million euros with 15 million in ads ons. sorry but that is short of the mark. No thanks.

10 Aug 2017 09:23:18
Ed025 you dismissed the idea of it even remotely happening!

{Ed025's Note - i never say definitely on anything robin...except that liverpool will definitely not win the league mate..

09 Aug 2017 15:24:20
Hearing on news - a three man Barcelona delegation arriving in London to try to complete a deal with Liverpool for couts. Does anyone know anything on this?

09 Aug 2017 15:35:54
They've been on their way for days, are they travelling by Southern Trains?

09 Aug 2017 16:03:44
Connex Southeastern.

09 Aug 2017 16:28:53
hitch Hiking more like.

09 Aug 2017 16:30:27
They must be swimming over ;-)

09 Aug 2017 16:34:02
I've heard hot air balloon was their favourite mode of transport. that way western union can sponsor the balloon.

09 Aug 2017 16:46:24
I think we should refuse them entry if they come with 2 or 4 men instead.

09 Aug 2017 17:26:50
They're coming on rolerskates n one of em has lost a wheel. but truthfully they could be coming to talk about Hazard or Dele Ali not just Coutinho.

{Ed002's Note - No, that is not the case.}

09 Aug 2017 17:53:43
OP, that is not true. The Barcelona delegation went to Dortmund to negotiate for Dembele, per Bild.

09 Aug 2017 19:41:15
They arrived in London this morning.

09 Aug 2017 21:01:48
I was in Southend today and I saw three blokes wearing sombreros climbing up onto the pier. They asked me if I'd seen the little magician. I had to tell them that Paul Daniels had sadly died. Last I saw they were all sitting on a bench in tears drinking Sangria from brown paper bags. Could that have been them?

09 Aug 2017 22:59:39
Ings n things, I've been reading the site for six years and I think that might just be the funniest reply I have ever seen on here. 😂😂.

10 Aug 2017 15:55:20
Let me make this clear. I hate chelsea. But, hazard performed better than coutinio last season. Why are Barcelona not interested in him? To compare Ali to coutinio is ridiculous, Phil is 3 times the player Ali is atm.

09 Aug 2017 13:35:10
Eds,
Whats this im reading about BT sport receing an email from Barcelona asking if they want live coverage of Countinho's reveiling on Friday.
Normally i would not believe this but this has come straight from BT sport.
Can you shed any light on what's hapening. i wish klopp would just come out and tell them to do one and put an end to it as we cannot afford to lose him this season.

{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of any press conference planned for Friday at this time and typically clubs do not email media with such questions. Klopp is not part of any negotiations but he has no doubt made is views clear to those who are.}

09 Aug 2017 14:19:55
Very disrespectful and stupid on Barca's part if true. They have not even signed him, FSG may not even listen to Barca's next offer so they could be left with egg on their faces if Coutinho does not join them.
Would be hilarious though if they made all sorts of plans for Coutinho's unveiling and FSG simply refuse to sell at any price.

09 Aug 2017 14:25:38
Barca are telling journos that they are looking at a Friday presser according to Andy May of BT Sport. Twitter stuff chaps.

09 Aug 2017 15:08:40
EDs with regards to Coutinho's story, how is it that its not tapping up the player when reports are saying that he agreed personal terms without getting the green light from LFC?

{Ed002's Note - I have explained this on multiple occasions.}

09 Aug 2017 15:19:49
Better to be prepared.

09 Aug 2017 15:45:45
No surprise! How did they sign Fabregas? Or how do they usually sign players?

09 Aug 2017 17:55:48
Ding Dong, this is how they do business and in fact what they did to Arsenal regarding Cesc was disgraceful. For this reason alone, we should not sell Cou as they will never stop.

09 Aug 2017 21:12:55
Yes BingoRed I agree, because any team that uses underhanded tactics such as talking to players illegally or using the press to unsettle players should not be allowed to. to. wait a minute Oh crap! :)

09 Aug 2017 03:13:50
Hi Eds, there are currently 2 contrasting reports out there. One saying that Coutinho is close to signing the deal with Barcelona and that Liverpool have accepted their bid. Another report is saying that we are resisting his sale and only a forced moved from Coutinho will see it happening as Klopp and the board would want to keep him. Obviously someone is reporting bullcrap here. Do you know which one is the real deal?

{Ed001's Note - we rejected their initial bid, no deal is agreed yet.}

09 Aug 2017 05:32:54
But they're expected to come back. we also would like to keep him, but if Coutinho forces the move we may be prepared to sell at the right price as we're unlikely to force him to stay against his will.

Geez is it so hard to keep up ;)

09 Aug 2017 06:43:33
The Spanish and Brazilian journalists are saying Coutinho deal is agreed while the English journalists insists Liverpool won't sell or haven't even held any meetings with Barcelona.

We will see in the coming days who was right.

09 Aug 2017 07:52:52
The Spanish and Brazilian media are just posting rubbish to get their fans and Barcelona fans wound up. According to Guillem Balague via Twitter, no deal has been agreed by LFC and he stated that our stance has not changed.

Per the Echo, Barcelona did not meet with our officials to do a deal and no new bid has been made and no bid has been accepted. Klopp and FSG are standing firm.

On the contrary per German outlet Bild, Barcelona officials went to Germany yesterday to do a deal for Dembele of BVB but Dortmund want reportedly 150m euros hence, almost 3/ 4 of the Neymar money. Sky Sports have daid the exact same things. This is the situation as it stands.

09 Aug 2017 13:45:52
There are also reports that Coutinho is feigning injury and has not got a back injury and is not willing to train with the club. It's all nonsense with each journalist trying to guess the breaking story to look like the knew what was happening. kind of like half on here when they were claiming to be itk in Keita and gave us numerous dates he was going to join. Some even changed their usernames 🙈🙈.

09 Aug 2017 01:00:04
Hi ED'S Im in a group and this guy always saying he's got a inside source of someone that works in Liverpool and this what he said today .

I would like your feedback please


Liverpool are talking to Barcelona. Liverpool deny this but there has been communication this week.

Fenway are not pushing to sell but have said if he goes it has to be £100 m plus.

Liverpool are trying to compromise on an exit next summer but they want the fee agreeing now and made binding so that Barcelona can not walk away or change the terms of the package.

Joorabchian has given his word to Barcelona that a deal will be reached this month.

Henry has said he will be very disappointed if senior management fail to retain Coutinho. They fear a backlash.

The general consensus is that Edwards is struggling but they are still hopeful of him concluding further deals before the window closes.

Klopp has said if Coutinho goes, he (Coutinho) goes. He has said it's not ideal timing but there isn't a wiff of any problems between him and the owners. They are working on 3 players. I am not hopeful of these happening, certainly not all of them.


Thanks for all the hard work ED'S.

{Ed001's Note - true, true, false, no idea, no idea, false (he is new and he has a lot to do though I would prefer another to come in alongside purely for the footballing side of things personally, no one at the club is judging him yet), true.}

09 Aug 2017 05:32:05
Thanks ED001.

{Ed001's Note - welcome.}

09 Aug 2017 05:38:24
Whoa seriously? Klopp has said he will walk if Couts goes? Guess I have to be kinda glad about that. Will FSG seriously consider losing both our best player and our manager this window? Surely not.

{Ed001's Note - what no. Read it again.}

09 Aug 2017 05:39:57
Thanks Ed, are those three players still VVD (subject to Southampton agreeing to accept his transfer request and being willing to speak to Liverpool), Keita (Maybe with Coutinho money in hand can try again? ) and Ox?

If this is right, else you can think of as two of those seem to rely on a major change of heart at selling clubs?

Final question. who are the top 5 players out there right now that you think home clubs would actually be willing to sell at the right price? Ie. excluding those where clubs don't want to sell if they can avoid it. like Coutinho.

{Ed001's Note - yes. No idea.}

09 Aug 2017 06:01:48
Oh I read the last 'true' as Klopp saying if Couts goes then he goes. I'm guessing that is for the still trying to bring 3 players in then. Opening parts of paragraphs threw me off.

{Ed001's Note - yep.}

09 Aug 2017 06:03:04
Oh I see. haha.

09 Aug 2017 06:16:08
Ed001 time is running out, at this stage can you see us signing any of those 3? (Vvd, Keita, Ox)

I can only see Ox personally, VVD seems impossible with saints attitude towards us.

Also, do you think the squad is desperately thin, like must other fans?

{Ed001's Note - I can't answer questions about time. No.}

09 Aug 2017 07:00:40
If Coutinho goes, we don't sign any first team players and we don't win anything this season, I can see Klopp going in May.

09 Aug 2017 06:52:05
Ok thank you. But do you feel the squad is too thin?

{Ed001's Note - the no was in answer to that question.}

09 Aug 2017 07:57:35
Ron, then he must be made to stay cos the scenario you put out will be the likely outcome as in Cou leaves and we have no replacements hence, we panic buy or stick with what we have. Good luck breaking down parked buses after selling your best player and one of the best no.10's in the PL.

09 Aug 2017 07:58:45
Thank you.

{Ed001's Note - welcome mate.}

09 Aug 2017 07:58:57
I don't see the logic in agreeing a fee for next summer, given the exponential rise in transfer fees that we've seen, it would be extremely short sighted if we could get more next summer?

09 Aug 2017 08:41:51
Hi Ed001. You mention you would like to see someone come in alongside Edwards, would Paul Mitchell be a good fit? (Let's not get excited about haircuts again! )

I know him so can tap him up for LFC if the general concencus is a good one, he did brilliantly at Southampton (might help on the VVD deal) and Spurs (might help get Alli) . Plus my fee would be very reasonable 🤣.

{Ed001's Note - he could hardly be any worse than the current bunch!}

09 Aug 2017 09:25:15
Hi frankly - I'm guessing that agreeing the fee and fixing it now in advance of couts moving next year means that both Barcelona and couts are more likely to agree to him staying another 12 months as next year Liverpool won't suddenly demand a fee so high that it makes any move unlikely.

It actually seems a pretty good compromise to me if true as we would still get decent money plus another 12 months of couts and then can find a suitable replacement over the year without having to over pay on a panic buy - plus it gives us a better shot at winning some trophies this year and qualify again for champions league next season to attract a better replacement.

Hope that makes sense!

09 Aug 2017 10:35:04
Is Paul, Phil and Grants long lost brother?

Baz.

09 Aug 2017 10:26:29
If, as the original poster implied, we are after Keita, Van Dijk and Oxlade if Coutinho is sold, I can only see one of these happening, RBL won't sell Keita (They have made that very clear, repeatedly that they won't), Southampton will not sell to us after our behaviour previously, which leaves us essentially signing Oxlade Chamberlain as a replacement for Coutinho, which if it is true, would be a repeat of the bodged transfer windows of the past, because he is not at all an adequate replacement and represents an indictment of our rank incompetency at recruitment.

09 Aug 2017 10:43:01
Thing is 1jj, this years £100m could be next years £150m, why cuckold ourselves a lower figure to Barcelona for a fixed amount of money for a player under a long term contract who has no release clause? Besides, a good showing at the world cup would mean his value increases.

09 Aug 2017 11:24:25
Would assume if a figure is agreed now for a transfer next summer it would take into account the potential for rising value this year. Even by LFC standards someone would have to be thick to not add that into the discussions.

09 Aug 2017 11:35:34
Not really, Frankly. You agree the fee right now and they get him next season so it would be like we sold him but he will stay with us on loan. I propose that people forget about what the fee may or may not be next season as this proposition may be the best way to go for all parties.

09 Aug 2017 11:51:21
Cuckhold? What sites have YOU been on haha?

09 Aug 2017 11:52:29
I agree frankly that he could be worth more however what if the only way we can get him to stay is to agree to this compromise?

In that scenario, We either sell today for £100m and not have him next season or we would still get £100m and have him play for us for the next 12 months.

Clearly I hope he simply stays with no compromise but
If that's the choice (clearly we are speculating) then I'd go for the compromise. Would you?

09 Aug 2017 15:24:58
I think you're wrong frankly. Totally believe the rbl were just getting as much publicity out of deal as possible. A reliable source said "they told us to bid 66 mil and he is yours" after first bid. People say they don't need the money. That is rubbish, they are primarily a business and 60/ 70 mil is not to be sniffed at. Business's are after one thing. . profits, money. And free advertisements. They have had plenty of free exposure. Time to bite the bullet RB and Southampton.

I think if Phil goes, which j believe he will and thinking with my head. he should go, if we love him like we say we do we should back him when furthering his career, and seeking move to world's biggest club. My heart, however, wants to tie him to the mast until the storm of transfer window has gone.

08 Aug 2017 23:18:30
Good evening

I think back in April / May it was mentioned we may have been looking at N'Zonzi, also that one of the eds seville would be open to cash in, did LFC interest move on, do we hold any interest still?

Thanks.

{Ed001's Note - last I heard it had moved on and we went for what was seen as a much better option in Keita.}

09 Aug 2017 08:00:09
Keita is a much better player.

09 Aug 2017 10:27:21
Keita is a better player all round, but I think N'zonzi is more what we need for our midfield to free up the abundance of "box to box" players we already have.

09 Aug 2017 11:21:50
How do you know Keita is a much better player? Scouted him extensively? I myself hadn't heard of Keita until this summer so I can't actually say I have ever seen him play football and therefore have no idea how good he is. Amazing how others on here rave about him.

09 Aug 2017 11:39:52
Yeah, is a far better footballer, Nzonzi literally is just a clogger and has no ability on the ball, Keita is a very good technical footballer who has the hard working traits of Kante. I watched several RBL games on BT Sport last year and him and Forsberg stood out a mile. He is a genuinely good midfielder and I think is the real deal.

{Ed001's Note - woah! Nzonzi just a clogger? He is far from that. He is a very good player.}

09 Aug 2017 11:40:02
Liverbird unlike you, I have seen Keita play since last season as I watch Bundesliga when I have the time both for RBL and he is the real deal, a Kante with better thrust and attacking ability with goals, assists and a good shot on him. Very dynamic player. I just was not sure about the 75m fee being touted cos it was too much and even RBL knows that as his release clause is 48m (tho would not apply to LFC as it is for German teams only) and that he has only had one good season in a top league in Europe (he came from RB Salzburg in 2016).