Liverpool Rumours Archive June 07 2017

 

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07 Jun 2017 21:28:54
Vvd was done, saints weren't happy one of our lot ran to press so it got messy.

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07 Jun 2017 22:07:55
If that's true they just screwed themselves as reportedly we where the highest bidder at the time. Maybe they thought we would pay them so more for comp.

End of the day its all messy.

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07 Jun 2017 22:07:55
If that's true they just screwed themselves as reportedly we where the highest bidder at the time. Maybe they thought we would pay them so more for comp.

End of the day its all messy.

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07 Jun 2017 22:16:20
nonsense.

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07 Jun 2017 22:31:04
If that is true I think that is a major overreaction on their behalf, it was always going to be released to the media anyway! I'm just gutted : (.

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08 Jun 2017 05:21:21
How can VVD deal be done if Soton never agreed to the deal? Hell we haven't even spoke to the club officially. The reports saying it was done is just rubbish.

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07 Jun 2017 21:25:58
Did Southampton just want Liverpool out the picture because they had higher offers hence capitalised on our indiscretion?

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{Ed025's Note - its possible i suppose wavo..

07 Jun 2017 21:50:31
If that is the case let's hope VVD just says no I am not interested.

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07 Jun 2017 21:50:31
If that is the case let's hope VVD just says no I am not interested.

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07 Jun 2017 22:18:25
NO its not possible wavo . Its out there in the open in black and white why the deal collapsed . somebody at the club missed up, not the first or second time and I am sure won't be the last.

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07 Jun 2017 22:31:28
if VVD did really want to come to us, how can saints make more £££ now were out the picture. wouldn't VVD refuse to go?

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08 Jun 2017 02:34:48
I'd say Soton never wanted to sell but if they do the want 10-20 more million than what we wanted to pay so they used this to stop the deal going through. Not saying we didn't mess up but just saying that if Soton were happy with VVD coming to us for the reported fee then they wouldn't have cared about what LFC did.

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08 Jun 2017 06:50:30
If VVD doesn't want to stay and kniws we can't come in then he may well take another offer. He might take the lowest that appeals to be annoying, if he wants to do something like that but this doesn't stop him from leaving for anyone else.

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{Ed001's Note - and then they can just refuse to accept the deal like they did when Fonte wanted out.}

08 Jun 2017 07:03:29
Thanks Ed01 as you say Southampton don't have to play ball either.

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{Ed001's Note - welcome.}

07 Jun 2017 20:34:11
I wasn't even sold on vvd, now I'm gutted we have done what we have. All these reports of we have agreed terms but not a fee. Question though, Could legal action still be taken?

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{Ed025's Note - possible but unlikely i would say fencey..

07 Jun 2017 21:31:02
If the EPL have accepted Liverpool's apology then that will be it.

Southampton not going to bother with us now when they have won the battle hands down. Doubt they will allow us to sign players from them again i. e. Fulham/ Dempsey.

Other clubs will be looking at this situation with eyes wide open.

At this point I am expecting a disappointing summer. Clubs not going to bother with our haggling anymore. We have shown our true colours now.

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{Ed025's Note - come on max you know better than that mate..

07 Jun 2017 21:43:28
The fact we've apologised, I think has stopped the PL from taking it further!

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07 Jun 2017 23:36:28
Eds, and please don't shoot me down as i am not making excuses, i just don't understand the severity of all this tapping stuff.

Listening to Steve Nicol today, and i am not saying he is right, and yes the rules are different now. but he was almost suggesting its all a big fuss over nothing and that if agents were not around clubs would and actually do this all the time.

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{Ed002's Note - It is a very serious matter. Would you not consider it an issue if Liverpool were banned from signing first team players for a year or two? They are already dealing with one transfer ban, a damaged reputation and clubs who don't want to do business with them - not an issue at all?}

08 Jun 2017 02:13:28
Ed, why does tapping up law in football exist, when in normal life and normal business, it goes on legally? Just asking, although I think we've been idiots yet again and heads need to roll, as it is law in football.

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{Ed001's Note - it is not legal in normal business.}

08 Jun 2017 06:00:39
Exactly Ed001. I work for a publishing house and under contract am not allowed to speak to another publishing house without permission. If it was done in secret my company would be well miffed with both me and the competitor.

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{Ed001's Note - I know a number of people who have been 'tapped up' by other companies with various consequences. It is the same in all walks of life, if you are high enough up the food chain to matter to the company who employs you.}

08 Jun 2017 13:14:50
Is it down to whether an employee is on a set contract or not, as my wife in the past has been head hunted before a few times, when agents for the new company have contacted her, had the interview and either offered the job or not, without her present (att) company knowing anything about it happening! Do all these head hunters break the law then? Sorry Eds, I know you're all skied under this morning, which I fully appreciate, just wanted to know! I also appreciate it's law in football and if broken, you should take the penalty!

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{Ed001's Note - it really depends on the job, as I said it usually comes down to how far up the food chain you are but a head hunter is, in essence, the same as an agent. Clubs/companies can speak to the agent/headhunter, but not the player/employee direct.}

08 Jun 2017 03:26:50
If English clubs do it all the time, why would only Liverpool get punished though. Other clubs (City was mentioned) did the same things as Liverpool as far as the Stoke youngster goes too. Are Liverpool the only club dumb enough to get caught? I don't get why they're the only ones getting called out on it when it's happening at every club.

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{Ed002's Note - English clubs don't "do it all of the time" and Manchester City has also been sanctioned for making an illegal approach to youngsters. Liverpool's behaviour has been terrible for years - far worse than any other club. The embarrassing attempts by some of the fans to deflect this is indeed laughable. In terms of youngsters, what Liverpool did to the kid from from Stoke is certainly the worst ever behaviour I have ever encountered and it should go to court and it should be out in the public domain quite how foul the club is and the damage they have done.}

09 Jun 2017 13:24:54
These clauses in employment contracts are notoriously difficult to enforce as it can be ruled as being a restriction of trade. I know that I've experienced issues trying to enforce one when an employee has left to go to a competitor. Has a club / player ever tried to challenge it on these grounds?

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07 Jun 2017 20:14:43
Hello eds, gutted obviously about van dijk. however I do feel we need at least a quality cb even if he's not worth 70 mil do you think we have a chance of getting Koulibaly or De vrij way cheaper and I believe as same or more level than vvd

Hope we get salah at least.

Cheers! Great job as always.

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{Ed025's Note - i think you need one as well lyver, koulibaly is class but not for sale apparently mate..

07 Jun 2017 20:47:45
De Vrij and Salah for the price of VVD: Good business I'd say, then move for Lacazette and a decent left back and we're there.

Let's hope we finally learn from this basic error. Whatever took place, we've made the headlines for all the wrong reasons and just at the wrong time!

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07 Jun 2017 20:42:09
Ed025, I'm pretty sure Ed001 reckons that Koulibaly is a bit of a donkey? Plus isn't the bloke in charge of Napoli a complete loon?

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{Ed025's Note - myself and ED001 have different opinions on a lot of things FMS and it does not make either of us right or wrong mate they are just opinions, and yes napoli are notoriously hard to deal with..

07 Jun 2017 21:03:04
Salah deal is off to 100%.

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07 Jun 2017 21:04:38
Have you seen de vrij injury record 😂

People like this do my head in.

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07 Jun 2017 21:07:32
mydogskip

Good post. It's not all doom and gloom.
I'd like to see Naby Keita in there too. Although that will be difficult.

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07 Jun 2017 21:11:15
Koulibaly was poor last season. In the best of times, the lad can't pass a ball to save his life. The media and pundits panned Sakho for looking clumsy; wait till these experts see Koulibaly play.

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07 Jun 2017 21:11:43
Hopefully we stump up the money for salah and mendy now and address the 2 problem areas with best possible players.

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07 Jun 2017 22:00:40
Mendy, a good lw, pereria, keita.

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07 Jun 2017 22:00:40
Mendy, a good lw, pereria, keita.

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08 Jun 2017 01:17:26
I wager we won't get any top player this window.

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07 Jun 2017 20:00:11
So EDs the £50million question on everyone's minds, do any of you have an idea of potential alternatives? I'm sure it's probably too soon to tell but any info wouldn't be appreciated.

Shame we've done this type of behaviour again, let's hope we learn from it.

Thanks

TIA19.

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{Ed001's Note - nothing yet, if anything mate.}

07 Jun 2017 20:03:03
But we won't learn from it though. Clearly that won't happen.

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07 Jun 2017 20:36:49
Our alternative should be Sakho as he's quality and can play at left back, Klopp should back down after this idiocy.

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07 Jun 2017 20:44:18
De Vrij seems to be one. Contract is running low think he's in last year of it.

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07 Jun 2017 20:54:49
Everyone knows we are willing to spend big now though, I swear by lascelles at Newcastle but I'm the only one who does.

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07 Jun 2017 19:43:33
The only consolation I can see from this is that we haven't spent 100 million on 2 players who were not in our original plan. Now let's start again. Hopefully we can go back in for Mendy and Keita.

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{Ed025's Note - they will cost £100m razor.. :)

08 Jun 2017 00:59:47
£100m yes, but both 1st choice targets. Throw in Salah and a RB and I am thrilled. Sell the players who don't have a future with the club and I call that a great transfer window.

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07 Jun 2017 19:56:51
Hey eds, i know this is a shot in the dark but, stay with me on this, could this be vvd agent? He knew he wanted to go to liverpool maybe meaning lover fees and bonus, so could this be a way of him generating more money for all parties involved. I know its a far fetched idea but we all know how agent are. Ps i hear rumours of de vrij any truth. Keep up the great work guys.

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{Ed001's Note - no it was not the agent messing about with it.}

07 Jun 2017 20:08:49
Sky Italia is reporting we've bid €20 million for De Vrij which Lazio has turned down. May or may not be true, but now that the entire world knows the kind of money we were looking to spend on a centre-back, any club we do business with can add a huge premium on what they might usually ask for.

What a mess.

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07 Jun 2017 20:23:41
TQ, Lazio actually want 30m pounds (40m euros) for him as he has one year left on his deal and is reluctant to sign a new one. This is different from the VVD issue as he had 5 years left on his deal hence, the heavy fee.

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07 Jun 2017 20:26:15
Least we made a bid this time.

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07 Jun 2017 19:29:51
Hi eds question.

What would happen if vvd handed in a transfer req in an attempt to push the move through.

How would you see it playing out if we went back in for him

Thanks

This is honestly exhausting.

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{Ed025's Note - it wont happen tomtom..

07 Jun 2017 20:13:45
He briefly changed his instagram and took off Southampton player and changed his picture to one in a Dutch shirt then changed it back. I could see him try and force through a move, whether we would go for him that's another thing? Probably end up at city or Chelsea.

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07 Jun 2017 20:07:35
I don't know ed bec vvd has just removed everything on his Twitter to do with Southampton.

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07 Jun 2017 20:37:01
Cuts doubly deep for me as I foolishly stuck £20 on him joining.

Unfortunately nobody benefits in this whole debacle, Soton don't, we don't, VVD doesn't.

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07 Jun 2017 20:49:05
His twitter says Southampton still, as does his instagram.

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08 Jun 2017 03:21:08
If VVD handed in transfer request, that could end badly for all parties. Soton just didn't like us forcing them to accept the offer. Now we don't get our target, VVD unhappy, Soton gets to keep an unhappy player.

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{Ed001's Note - Saints just didn't like us going behind their backs and breaking the rules. If we had gone through official channels and the player then said he only wanted to play for us, they would have accepted it.}

07 Jun 2017 19:07:17
So according to some people, VVD was a done deal.

24hrs later, the same people are saying we haven't agreed a deal with Southampton although the player definitely wants the move. They are also saying the 'illegal approach' was a smokescreen.

48hrs later, LFC drop all interest and apologise to Southampton.

So much for the reliable sources and people in the know.

No deal was EVER agreed with Saints or the player!

Embarrassing.

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{Ed025's Note - it was agreed with him and his agent sgtP, everyone assumed that the club were part of the negotiations but it turned out that that was not the case mate..

07 Jun 2017 19:33:27
Yes obviously there was something in it. It's just that it's gone wrong. Hey you know what, maybe it's for the best. Perhaps we should just stick to our original plan and not get sidetracked. I just hope we will learn the lessons and this will NEVER happen again. Not a good start to the summer! Let's hope we have a good ending!

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07 Jun 2017 19:34:04
Every time macca says done deal it goes Tits up. Haha keep shush till it goes through.

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07 Jun 2017 19:32:12
The fact that all this was happening and the club did not know, is criminal warranting the sacking of whoever was involved in this shambles, IMO.

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{Ed025's Note - klopp was obviously involved...so sack him?

07 Jun 2017 19:50:33
He needs to be brought into line if that is the case lEd25.

This could have a serious impact on whom we sign during this transfer window. The consequences of not getting this transfer window right could have a damaging impact for many seasons to come.

In my opinion.

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{Ed025's Note - you could be right nicky, im not saying its good mate just that beating the club with a big stick is not the answer..

07 Jun 2017 19:53:19
Ed025 - And why not? I am not at all saying that Klopp should be sacked for any proven offence in the VVD situation. But if it is proven that he is guilty of any sackable offence then he should be sacked, just as much as any other LFC employees guilty of a sackable offence.

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{Ed025's Note - thats called...cutting your nose off to spite your face ra, rap some knuckles anmd move on i say..

07 Jun 2017 20:06:39
Those hoping for a happy ending can forget it, this isn't going to end well and I can see us getting a kicking. Not only that, but we're utterly incapable of bringing in top players so we are not going to be able to compete. We're going to a Grand Prix hoping to win in a Yugo Zastava. That's the state of our club.

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07 Jun 2017 19:45:43
Is that it Ed025? Liverpool have suffered immense embarrassment because no one thought check that the other club knew? Where were the lawyers and the Admin people?

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{Ed025's Note - ok then polecat, kick some arses or sack someone or maybe donate some money to a southampton hospital or something..then move on..

07 Jun 2017 20:19:17
then yes ed, its a disgrace and if klopp played his part then he has dragged our name through the mud. sorry but Liverpool is bigger than klopp.

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{Ed025's Note - i think your intentions are honourable jay but if this was pep or mourinho do you think their supporters would be calling for the manager to fall on his sword?...i think not mate..

07 Jun 2017 20:22:33
To be honest ed25, Klopp should have some repercussions from this. Yes we all love him and in my opinion he is a world class manager but in any other line of work, you put your employers reputation (already poor) into more disrepute through pure incompetence (which it is no matter how our fans try and spin it), you would be in for a serious disciplinary. Very poor from all involved.

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{Ed025's Note - i agree gunn its piss poor mate, discipline all involved and hand out some final warnings i say, maybe sack a lawyer or two just dont do anything that will halt the progress of the club and undo the hard work of last season as an act of contrition..

07 Jun 2017 20:26:58
Ed025, we may not sack him as that is just cutting your nose to spite your face and many other managers have done this and did not get sacked. He should be reprimanded prolly in private and be given a stern warning to stop this nonsense cos this is the second time he is doing this to my knowledge (last summer with Zeilinski) .

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{Ed025's Note - i will have that brussels, cut him out of any future dealings if hes guilty and fine him 2 weeks wages and donate it to the manchester or london victims fund or similar mate, but have an internal inquiry first and not a knee jerk reaction..

07 Jun 2017 21:14:02
Yeah ed, I agree that sacking Klopp would not be beneficial to us in anyway, as you said throw some warnings / disciplinary's around and make certain that this doesn't happen again. As ed002 has said countless times we are becoming a laughing stock.

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{Ed025's Note - im not playing it down gunn its a very serious matter and it has made the club look amateurish, dont throw the baby out with the bath water thats all im saying mate..

07 Jun 2017 22:49:19
All clubs are at it. you are naiive to think they don't. liverpool just stupid enough to leak everything to the press.

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07 Jun 2017 23:10:26
Yeah I see what your saying ed. Thanks for the reply and looks like Edwards is the one that fsg are coming to speak to about it mate.

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{Ed025's Note - im sure we will find out presently mate..

09 Jun 2017 13:41:05
Been reading this site for years and Macca has got a better percentage of things right than anybody else in the media let alone this site. He doesn't have to share what he does so turn it in! Most of us on here appreciate his input and posts like this will lose his information altogether. We're all disappointed but stuff happens its football we'll get over it!

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07 Jun 2017 19:03:57
Hi Eds, just wondering if there is any news on Lazar Markovic? Would like to see him given one last chance as he's pretty rapid and could be good for depth purposes!

Cheers, keep the good work up.

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{Ed001's Note - he is expected to go to Watford, if I remember correctly.}

07 Jun 2017 19:55:03
Rumoured to Watford, he came over with the reputation of being rapid, he was no doubt nippy but I have never seen evidence of rapid, certainly no Mane, Salah, Martins.

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07 Jun 2017 21:25:13
Eds25 like you say if it was agreed with vvd and his agent then pre season will be fun. The saints will have one unhappy player on their hands not to mention saints fans. can't see vvd staying with them now. What a shambles.

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{Ed025's Note - a shambles indeed ace..

07 Jun 2017 18:52:15
SS r saying we have pulled out of the vvd deal and apologised to Southampton.

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07 Jun 2017 18:59:26
Official statement from lfc so yeh.

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07 Jun 2017 19:05:50
Rumour is lfc dropped interest in vvd due to now knowing who Southampton would sign as a replacement and will buy him instead.

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07 Jun 2017 19:10:02
The statement makes it pretty clear there was interest in Van Dijk and also that the club have acted inappropriately. Absolute farce. While I've no doubt that tapping up goes on all the time to get caught is pathetic and shameful. A chance to get a player who would have improved our squad blown. Whoever has been involved should hang their heads in shame and consider where they stand. And that includes the manager and I'm his biggest fan.

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07 Jun 2017 19:13:15
Hahaha nice one lee.

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07 Jun 2017 19:15:34
Wtf? Lfc shocker. Disgrace.

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07 Jun 2017 19:06:20
How many more times are we going to mess up transfer dealings? Our club is becoming a laughing stock by not being able to abide by the rules. We have lost a quality player in VVD, exactly what we needed! Even more inexcusable as we beat off Chelsea and City for him due to the lad wanting to play for us.

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07 Jun 2017 19:06:39
What a bunch of idiots if there really was a breach of regulations. Looks like they'll never learn.

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07 Jun 2017 19:06:41
Ha ha, if that is the case then Liverpool are run like a circus.

I think it is fair to say that we are and never were in a position financially to make the VVD deal happen.

Yet fans seem to think spending that kind of money does not matter. It does because it will drown Liverpool financially even further.

Will be extremely disappointed if the tapping up news is true and we will deserve what comes our way from the EPL.

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{Ed025's Note - thats very masochistic of you max, ok so they cocked up, they wont be the first or the last mate.. lets move on..

07 Jun 2017 19:07:18
Ffs. What a shambles. We'll go and waste a fortune on rubbish like Keane now. Typical of the shambolic way we conduct our business.

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{Ed025's Note - its poor but not the end of the world FMS..

07 Jun 2017 19:21:31
Spot on Kimos.
This continual tapping up of players is making us a complete laughing stock and heads should role. If we are unable to make the marquee signings Klopp wants our transfer window becomes diluted and worst still we end up paying even more for players down our pecking list and diluting our squads quality.
Klopp surely will only be speaking to players on advice from others. If he has done it on his own back then we have to seriously consider those consequences and like you I love te guy! let's wait to see how this plays out.

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07 Jun 2017 19:24:37
Got to laugh haven't you.

Get everyone's frustration but there's probably a 100 ways to cross wires and it's probably a misunderstanding somewhere along the lines.

Reset move on and try to repair some reputation by 1. Dealing correctly 2.wrap up deal quietly 3. Hire Southampton scout lol.

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07 Jun 2017 19:35:14
There's no need or excuse for it. Someone or some people have seriously f**ked up. It's an embarrassment and you can see other clubs rubbing their hands. Why do it? See how it pans out like you say patemondo but what looked like a promising start to the summer looks like turning into a desperate race to spunk money.

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07 Jun 2017 19:24:55
Ed025, we would have never even be willing to pay up even if Soton were willing to listen. We did not even approach them.

We went behind their backs to get the player on our side and then screw Southampton over.

Disgrace.

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{Ed025's Note - your guessing there max, it was done to jump the queue and yes it was naive but lets have a bit of perspective..

07 Jun 2017 19:58:06
This isn't simply a case of 'crossed wires' this is somewhere between malpractice and utter incompetence. Don't know about the rest of you but I'm furious at the way we've conducted this, shambles and and we're a joke of a club at the moment. This is right up there with the Suarez nonsense. Btw collective apologies to the Eds too as you will probably be dealing with a lot of really annoyed fans.

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07 Jun 2017 20:39:35
For me personally i am gutted if we did do something a bit shady, if we knew we were, rather than a genuine misunderstanding. but i am glad to be honest we are not going to spend that money on a player i don't think is good enough to match the price, even in today's crazy football market costs.

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07 Jun 2017 21:13:47
So is this another case of tapping up or genuine crossed wires and club thought by speaking to agent that Southampton were aware. If this is tapping up then anyone involved in this and previous incidents has to go, including Klopp otherwise the club will be incapable if ever signing anyone in future.

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07 Jun 2017 21:39:18
Embarrassing. Just do the job properly!

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07 Jun 2017 13:28:35
Its a real shame to miss out on VVD, but the club's reputation must be damaged by these sorts of blunders.
I can't help wondering whether potential future signings that we approach will tend to doubt the club's credibility in the transfer market.
That said, with a rumoured price tag of over 70m, I wonder which clubs will make offers?

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07 Jun 2017 18:52:14
Liverpool have ended interest in VVD, im absolutely gutted.

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07 Jun 2017 19:05:42
We are a total joke.

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07 Jun 2017 19:10:58
Wouldn't surprise me if owners have taken this opportunity to get out of a deal they now think is too expensive!

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07 Jun 2017 19:12:27
Ridiculous. He'll end up going to City or Chelsea and we'll buy some also ran rubbish like Keane or Maguire. It's no wonder we're so uncompetitive.

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07 Jun 2017 19:51:29
We need to just move on and hopefully look forward to hearing some good transfer news.
One player isn't the end of the world!

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07 Jun 2017 18:45:53
OFFICIAL STATEMENT from club has confirmed interest in Virgil Van dijk will cease.

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07 Jun 2017 18:56:47
Heads need to roll over this that's what you get when you put someone in charge of transfers with zero experience.

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07 Jun 2017 18:59:46
Gutted.

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07 Jun 2017 19:00:09
It's shocking players willing and wanting the club and they abandon them regardless of tapping up or not! Sure spend the money on 7/ 8 mediocre players!

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07 Jun 2017 19:02:38
Harry McGuire then hahaha.

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07 Jun 2017 19:03:16
I guess that confirms that LFC were tapping up the player.

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07 Jun 2017 19:03:27
Absolutely gutted we are useless in the transfer market now we will end up with no Salah and no vvd every window we mess up.

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07 Jun 2017 19:10:17
You know, I thought the transfer windows where we bought in Diao, Diouff and Cheyrou or the Joe Cole transfer window was bad, but crikey, this is must be close to the worst.

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07 Jun 2017 19:11:53
What a joke.

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07 Jun 2017 19:12:14
Absolutely shocking the way we are going about things😢I'm still hoping something can be done with Southampton regarding van the man and this is our way of softening them up so in the next couple of weeks we can start to talk again through the proper channels 🤞.

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07 Jun 2017 19:26:21
hmasson2 The club cannot come out with an official grovelling letter and then go back and ask "by the way, remember that lad. " this is embarrassing enough without making us look right gobshhhh.

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07 Jun 2017 19:41:30
Imo, even if we ended up buying VVD
@60+m, it would have put him under increased pressure to perform immediately.

Gutted but I believe our defence will be sorted out by Kloppo in this window.

Walk on. with hope in your heart.

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07 Jun 2017 20:00:40
We'll start next season with the same shambolic defence and with the same problems as last season and a transfer ban as well whilst those around us buy world class players, forget winning any trophies for the next few years, our management structure has ballsed that up royally.

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07 Jun 2017 19:44:10
We are indeed run by amateurs. Everyone knows how transfers work and the processes involved YET we act like we are either beginners or out of complete arrogance and disregard for the rules in place. VVD or not, this needs to end and punishment needs to be handed out to those concerned even if it is indeed Klopp.

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07 Jun 2017 20:07:43
gutted, . unluckeee.

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07 Jun 2017 20:17:05
Obviously this is not good at all but people saying the whole window is a disgrace seems too much.
We don't know how things will turn out yet and some people seem over dramatic.
Let's wait and see.

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07 Jun 2017 17:38:08
Ed002, know of anything about the rumour of Sturridge being offered to Newcastle?

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{Ed002's Note - I don't but Newcastle have already reached agreement to take a striker on loan.}

07 Jun 2017 17:52:38
Th Young st from Chelsea I'm I right.

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{Ed002's Note - Abraham.}

07 Jun 2017 17:19:32
hello mr. ED i am new to this page and i would like to know what is going with the salah deal is it really a smokescreen or is the deal off? and are we going to get VVD . I would really appreciate your reply.

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{Ed002's Note - Liverpool would like to buy Salah Oz but they have not offered enough money to persuade Roma to sell him.}

07 Jun 2017 17:34:17
Wow really Ed002. Embarrassing specially since these people doing the deals will be on 100k a year plus.

We really are a joke of a club when it comes to business side of things.

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07 Jun 2017 17:37:29
and what about VVD Mr. Ed.

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{Ed002's Note - Clearly Liverpool want to buy him and I am sure Southampton would be happy to give Liverpool a deal for perhaps £70M if the player has been tapped up.}

07 Jun 2017 18:00:31
And if he hasn't been tapped up ed?

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{Ed002's Note - Then there will not be any charges.}

07 Jun 2017 18:02:25
jordz - why do you make that statement? We would be a joke if we regularly offered well above market value! Or have you forgotten Leeds Utd?

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07 Jun 2017 19:11:47
AndyM think i submitted comment to wrong place. was supposed to be to ed002 comment about roma now investigating us regards salah deal.

That's why the club is a joke. Two transfers out of two investigated for tapping up. One the VVD deal we have practically just admitted to by pulling our interest. There should no excuses. There actions have let the fans down.

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07 Jun 2017 17:09:33
Eds what has happened with the salah deal look all but stamped has it fallen through or is there still a chance gutted if we don't sign him I was gutted the last time thanks eds.

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{Ed002's Note - Roma has set a price but Liverpool has not made an acceptable offer. Roma are also trying to establish iif an illegal approach has been made.}

07 Jun 2017 17:31:35
What is it with LFC? Do they not understand the process of how to approach and negotiate transfers for players? Someone needs to be held accountable for this disgraceful behaviour. If we get a transfer ban, then its totally deserved.

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{Ed002's Note - Liverpool already have a ban for Academy players and a pending court case that could be ugly and embarrassing. They really need to smarten up.}

07 Jun 2017 17:36:08
You have got to be kidding me? Salah as well?

Just how stupid are we?

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07 Jun 2017 17:36:39
omg not another. Are they complete and utter idiots.

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{Ed002's Note - I don't think there is anything in this as his agent is trying to distance himself from a stupid comment or two.}

07 Jun 2017 17:52:25
Cheers Ed. That is some relief!

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07 Jun 2017 17:08:24
There is rumours circulating that Liverpool have had a €20m bid for Stefan de Vrij rejected by Lazio, this would be a cheap alternative to Virgil Van Dijk, Lazio apparently want €30m!

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07 Jun 2017 17:32:50
Quality CB imo. Better value for money than VVD at half the price. Lazio want 20 million plus for him but he would be worth it coz he also possesses leadership qualities.

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07 Jun 2017 18:11:50
I asked ed01 who he would prefer to vvd after he had said why he didn't think vvd was right for us- de vrij was the player named as a realuatic alternative.

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07 Jun 2017 18:11:59
Not aware of any link (I thought he was Milan-bound? ), but he is a good player who's improved considerably and probably does represent better value if Southampton is now demanding £70m.

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07 Jun 2017 18:13:54
Maybe we are looking to buy both and play 6 at the back next year 😂.

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07 Jun 2017 16:53:52
Rumours now circulating that we have moved on from Van Dijk and have made an offer for Stefan De Vrij.

No idea how trustworthy these are.

Any ideas anyone? Eds?

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{Ed002's Note - I can't help, sorry. He would however be a good buy.}

07 Jun 2017 17:17:48
I'd tend to agree on that Ed002. Given that he is in the last year of his contract the fee is likely to also be a bit more reasonable.

A little concerned by the fact that he primarily plays on the right of the CBs though. We saw how much Lovren struggled when he was moved from LCB to RCB.

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07 Jun 2017 17:25:11
Its being reported on Football Italia via Sky that we have had a €20m bid turned down, with Lazio apparently holding out for closer to €35m.

He would be just over half the cost of VVD.

I know nothing about him other than it was reported 2 years ago that he was keen on a move to Liverpool when he left Feyenord, and was ultimately bought by Lazio.

Ed002, would you be able to elaborate on why you think he would be a good option?

Also, any views from peeps who watch the Italian league?

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{Ed002's Note - I am not sure where you get the "just over half" rom but De Vrij's contract is running down and he is a very good player who is attracting interest from a number of high-profile sides.}

07 Jun 2017 18:00:38
Thanks Ed002, I should steer clear of finances!

I was talking purely in terms of reported transfer fees, with Lazio holding for c£30m (€35m according to the Football Italia report) and VVD costing c£60m + or -. I think the figures reported by the journalist who broke the story (can't remember his name) are just over £50m including add ons, although that could indeed go up significantly if tapping up is an issue, as you said in reply to another post.

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07 Jun 2017 18:21:30
Is De Vrij not a bit of a crock?

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{Ed002's Note - Yes.}

07 Jun 2017 10:47:59
Anything eds in the gelson martins rumours on sky right now?

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{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of Liverpool interest but other sides have decided the asking price is too high.}

07 Jun 2017 15:48:10
Hi first time posting on site but read on here all the time am just wondering why Liverpool won't pay £35 million for Salah but will pay nearly £40 million for gelson martins if sky sports are to be believed.

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07 Jun 2017 15:57:00
Probably to make Roma think we are willing to walk away so they lower the price.

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07 Jun 2017 16:02:08
That's a big 'If' Jake. I wouldn't believe most media outlets at this time.

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07 Jun 2017 16:03:25
Well, it seems quite UNbelievable.

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07 Jun 2017 16:28:26
The transfer window hasn't started yet and it is already going nuts.

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07 Jun 2017 16:24:58
" if sky sports are to be believed"

You've answered your own question, Jake!

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07 Jun 2017 16:58:54
If that is what this deal is for, doesn't Roma think the same and call our bluff? I love the transfer window, but at times, it drives me nuts!

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07 Jun 2017 17:12:56
All I will say is Andy Carroll and Carlos Tevez.

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07 Jun 2017 15:45:59
I've read that klopp met with van dijk in Blackpool to personally convince him his future is at anfield . (mirror)

Surely if this is true we will be facing some sort of transfer ban and fine . I fail to see how the club could be so stupid myself and not learn from past events .

Any idea if any the above is true?

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07 Jun 2017 15:59:12
It's true they were spotted on the big dipper together and also shared some Blackpool rock.

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07 Jun 2017 16:00:20
hope not.

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07 Jun 2017 16:11:00
Considering this come from John Cross and the mirror, i really don't believe it. Plus I've seen photos the past couple days on Klopp on holiday in iceland.

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07 Jun 2017 16:15:47
"Mirror" says it all mate 😂.

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07 Jun 2017 16:18:02
Yeh and they both stopped in my hotel and had a full English brekky 😂😂.

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07 Jun 2017 16:18:50
I guess the club would use the Mourinho/ Cole thing as a yardstick.

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07 Jun 2017 14:37:10
Have we had any enquiries about mane eds?

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{Ed001's Note - why would we?}

07 Jun 2017 15:28:49
Because he's a beast.

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{Ed001's Note - but we have given no indication of him being available and he has given off no indication of having any interest in a move away.}

07 Jun 2017 15:34:51
Have we had inquiries for anyone?

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{Ed001's Note - yes, there is interest in Gomez, Ward and a few of the other youngsters.}

07 Jun 2017 16:28:58
But not in Markovic, Stewart or Lucas.

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07 Jun 2017 17:13:58
Lucas's contract has ended (or just about to end) . He's free to do as he wishes, including to stay if he is asked to by LFC.

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07 Jun 2017 13:26:35
Eds. any news on the salah deal or is it a no go now shame good player. Reddave.

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{Ed001's Note - it doesn't change by the second mate, people need to calm down negotiations can take time.}

07 Jun 2017 14:10:49
Is the Gelson Martins rumours just fabrication mate?

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{Ed001's Note - no idea sorry.}

07 Jun 2017 14:29:59
How about now, Ed? :p.

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07 Jun 2017 14:58:57
I understand exactly what you're saying Ed but it's too exciting/ nerve racking for us fans. Patience has never been my strong suit so I can understand where the op is coming from too. Although to be fair the window doesn't open for another 3.5 weeks. We'll all be having breakdowns at this rate :-)

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07 Jun 2017 15:16:49
This is going to be a long summer😏.

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07 Jun 2017 15:29:49
My season ticket renewal is reliant on salah (sarcasm)

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07 Jun 2017 15:34:06
It's always a long summer for LFC fans because we tend to believe every rumour we hear or read about from the media.

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07 Jun 2017 15:37:31
i hate waiting and all of the rumours make it even worst.

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07 Jun 2017 10:52:35
SSN reporting we are talking to sporting lisbon about Gelson Martins.

Any of the Eds no anything?

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{Ed001's Note - no idea sorry.}

07 Jun 2017 11:20:13
Maybe trying to force Romas hand?

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07 Jun 2017 11:27:11
Seems very odd been as ssn are reporting that we're not willing to go to £35m for Salah so have changed to what would presumably Ben our 3rd choice that would look to cost around £40m. Why would we choose a more expensive option for 3rd choice. It's not like salah is at the end of his career and therefore doesn't represent a good investment.

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07 Jun 2017 11:30:10
Looks like a talented chap, but isn't he another right winger?

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07 Jun 2017 11:34:33
Hardly tearing things up the Portuguese league though is he? 11 goals in 60 odd games in a fairly weak league? I'd rather we focused our efforts on getting Salah.

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07 Jun 2017 11:37:18
Maybe Klopp moving mane to the left.

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07 Jun 2017 11:37:58
He looks like he would be a step down from Salah, looks like a tactic to get Roma negotiate on the price a little. Also it looks like the Wingers we are looking at now mainly play on the right. Does anyone else think we will be moving Mane over the the left and then sign a RW as there aren't many decent LW about, plus Mane has played on the Left in his career a lot i believe?

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07 Jun 2017 11:43:01
Mane has played on the left more than he has on the right. He's only really been consistently played on the right since joining us.

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07 Jun 2017 11:46:34
We won't Spend 35 Million on our first target who is by far a better player who has proven it in a better league (Serie A) with more goals and assists but we will try buy an alternative for 40 Million which Sporting Lisbon are looking for, who has scored just 6 Goals. Anyone else confused? If we can't get Salah just give Ojo or Wilson.

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07 Jun 2017 11:49:33
Gelson Martins would be great. ynwa.

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07 Jun 2017 11:52:44
We could do with this link falling flat on its arse and moving onto Douglas Costa a proven Lw who along with VVD and a LB would push Liverpool to the next level.

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07 Jun 2017 12:00:49
Average at best and someone has to tell the lad you cannot dribble past all 11 players. He has pace but hardly any end product and has no vision to pick players or their movements. He is exactly what Markovic was 3 years ago.
We should go back to Julian Brandt and mind you Martins should be the Plan C.

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07 Jun 2017 12:27:12
Southampton are interested in him right? maybe we want to save our money😂😂.

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07 Jun 2017 12:35:15
I hope it is just a tactic to speed up negotiations with Roma for Salah. Gelson Martins may well have potential but he's nowhere near the level of Salah in my opinion. Martins is definitely not worth more than 15million.

I'd be very happy if we can get VVD, Salah, a quality lb and Rb, then depending on outgoings maybe add Keita and a striker like Werner or Lacazette. That would be an excellent summer for us.

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07 Jun 2017 12:44:00
Ed, is FSG up to their usual money antics again or is Ian Ayre back on the scene?

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07 Jun 2017 12:55:41
Wouldn't it be better to give the nod to Brandt?

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07 Jun 2017 13:06:43
Ed001, Echo reporting that we are monitoring Keita Baide, Martins and Douglas Costa as alternative to Salah. I was just wonderig what is you opinion on them, who would be your choice?

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{Ed001's Note - I have never seen Martins play, seen very little of Keita and so it would have to be Costa due to him being the only one I have seen. Though he is supposed to be a bit of an arse, he has shown he can be top class on his day.}

07 Jun 2017 13:34:19
Keita Balde is supposed to have agreed a move to Juventus? Martins doesn't look a top class player at all from what I have seen of him, like a substandard Nani and that is not saying a lot.

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07 Jun 2017 13:35:39
Apparently rick parry is consulting on transfers. were doomed.

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07 Jun 2017 13:53:22
Make no mistake, Douglas Costa is a great player with magic in his left foot and can strike a ball with deadly precision. However as Ed said, he is a piece of work which is part of the reason BM may want rid as his attitude stinks.

As for Salah and Martins, it's just a ploy to let Roma know that we won't be messed about cos they need the money so this is just another negotiating tactic. I think the deal will still be done.

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07 Jun 2017 14:03:59
Douglas costa i think would always of been the top choice for a nrw winger.

Everyone else is below his level.

Not thay there bad players or won't improve us but costa on the left and mane on the rivht would be ruthless.

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07 Jun 2017 15:00:42
I hope we get Salah, if not I would like Keita Balde, always wanted him as a liverpool player.

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07 Jun 2017 15:09:38
Gelson is 14 assists and 6 goals in 32 league games. Not bad stats is it?

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07 Jun 2017 15:33:03
You have to remember he got them stats in the Portuguese league, which is like the championship minus a couple of teams, so Jordan Rhodes is a must buy if we keep looking at stats.

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07 Jun 2017 16:01:00
We simply don't need a RB. End of. If someone amazing becomes available for a decent price then fair enough. We should focus on LB and securing our new CB (who I believe is undoubtedly on his way to melwood) We were amazing this season against teams who wanted to play football. We don't want to change the balance of the team too much by replacing half the personnel. LB is now priority and then a proven striker and then CM. Although I won't be worried if we don't buy a CM. If lucus leaves (legend) then perhaps we need a scrappy midfielder but really don't think we need to spend 50 mil. I'm very pleased to see salah in a liverpool shirt. Anyone creative and quick I'm pleased with. I understand he is a hard working footballer and that makes me smile. Better think of a song boys.

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07 Jun 2017 16:14:51
I'm not sure how spending more money on a secondary or in this case a 3rd choice can be a ploy to get Roma to play ball. Surely Roma will just turn around and say 'you value your 3rd choice at £40m so surely your 2nd choice is worth more'

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07 Jun 2017 14:08:06
Ed's People saying Roma need the money, haven't they agreed a £40mil deal with Inter for Nainggolan? meaning technically they don't need the money?

Thanks.

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{Ed002's Note - Roma are putting pressure on his agent at present to find out if Liverpool has made an illegal approach to Salah. They have set a price for the player but Liverpool has not made an acceptable offer.}

08 Jun 2017 01:19:17
Didnt ronny come from sporting. Wasnt a decision also made to not throw money down the drain on such a young player, didn't we also get cisse instead.

Im feeling abit of deja vu here.

Listen im not saying he's a ronny. But just because he comes from a weak league doesn't make him a bad player.

Coutinho came from there afterall. Along with other players from weaker leagues. Lallana was in league 1 a few years ago. Firmino was in the dudgeons in brazil. Mane was in switzerland i think, maybe lower end french league. Hendo at sunderland.

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07 Jun 2017 09:59:07
Reports suggesting we are in with a bid of 52m for James.

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07 Jun 2017 10:26:11
I don't belive it. But if so it would mean a farewell to Coutinho I assume. ATM I'd rather keep Phil and see him drive from that new 8 role.

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07 Jun 2017 10:27:14
haha, good one. No mate. False.

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07 Jun 2017 10:42:39
Good few papers going with it so its probably as reliable as a glass hammer, would be a good signing tho and keep coutihno too.

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07 Jun 2017 10:57:49
He's too slow, often poor work ethic with occasional motd moment.

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07 Jun 2017 13:39:32
James was only average when he played in goal for us. He'd be even worse now, he must be 50 at least!

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07 Jun 2017 13:55:37
I would still trust Migs over James ;)

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07 Jun 2017 14:01:26
James is a poor player. Doesn't track back, work hard off the ball, doesn't press and has a poor attitude, everything Klopp (and ZZ) despises in a player. No Thanks!

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07 Jun 2017 15:50:17
He might have kopped on a bit and got his head in tune with his body.

He was one of the biggest disappointments I can remember.

He was absolute class at Watford. But his bottle must have went after signing for us.

Chris Kirkland was another example.

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07 Jun 2017 16:44:30
Don't forget Scott Carson also, Dermot, although the Wally with the Brolly may have had more to do with his crisis of confidence!

Kirkland was more unlucky with injuries, to be fair. When he played, I remember him playing well.

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07 Jun 2017 08:22:47
Picure of mo salah posing with 2 liverpool fans holding up lfc shirts circulating the net hopefully it's a little nudge to the owners or just a picture.

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07 Jun 2017 09:20:11
Remember Zielinski.

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07 Jun 2017 07:43:57
Trusted information for a very reliable source.
Jamie Carragher advised a board member to offload Sturridge which cause a rift between him and Carra recently. Danny doesn't want to leave and carra believes he should move out for regular football. Bilic is a long time admirer and would love to add him of they could offload Caroll.

Salah - It is understood the club has not agreed on a price yet with club sporting director Monchi currently away to US. The club has a €30 mill deficit which needs to be balanced before June 30. Roma has already a replacedment lined up in Dominick Berrardi ( Winger at sassuolo )

Central Midifielder - Klopp is understood to add a new CM this window with Kieta his number one priority. Ye club recently spoke to his representatives and the signs has not been negative. Klopp is ready to splash up to €40 mill to land the player.
Alternatives has been looked into the likes Paredes, William Carvalho.

Full back : The club are actively looking to add atleast one new full back. Robertson tops the list atm.

Thanks.

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07 Jun 2017 08:04:34
Haven't the Eds, Macca, The posters, The media and my neighbours dog already given us this info?

Nothing here is a surprise at all.

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07 Jun 2017 08:36:02
RTP

Lol.

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07 Jun 2017 09:34:55
Carragher said that on TV not to a board member, and sturridge pulled him up on it on the trip to Australia, which is good imo, gets to say what he wants with no challenge,

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07 Jun 2017 09:51:20
A much needed kick up the arse. Carragher the motivator!

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07 Jun 2017 10:02:13
Thanks for just repeating what you have read on here Harry. It does make you look like you know what your talking about though.

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07 Jun 2017 10:47:08
Or maybe Carragher just needs to butt out and let Klopp do his job!

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07 Jun 2017 11:35:47
Fair play to Sturridge, he wants to stay and fight for his place.

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07 Jun 2017 11:36:21
Robertson? are you having a laugh! would be the worse full back since Konchesky!

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07 Jun 2017 13:13:44
In other news the sky is blue and the sun is yellow.

Yes, I am ITK ;)

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07 Jun 2017 14:04:34
Harry, the Ed's have already given us the updates you mentioned however, the Robertson link you posted is incorrect. He is not the top target for LB as that is Benjamin Mendy from Monaco who Monaco will not let leave if the 40m price is not met. Robertson is just one of the other LB's being considered. Fixed it for ya. You're welcome.

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07 Jun 2017 15:46:51
His "reliable source" is this site by the looks of it since that's all here. nice little overview though. cheers!

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07 Jun 2017 02:54:59
Eds, to your knowledge, would bringing in Salah now bring an end to current interest in Brandt? Or any other lw for that matter.

Cheers.

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{Ed001's Note - I believe so, yes.}

07 Jun 2017 10:42:05
Ok thanks a lot for the response.

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