Liverpool Rumours Archive July 06 2021

06 Jul 2021 20:59:33
So Brighton are getting a midfielder from RB Salzburg, Mwepu. Looks like they might be set to part with a midfielder. Bissouma? To us? Interesting days ahead.

06 Jul 2021 21:40:42
Can only hope. My fear is that he’s going to Arsenal.

06 Jul 2021 21:51:47
To arsenal. We're getting sick note sanchez.

06 Jul 2021 22:14:50
We need to stop going for the cheap options, sell these players we never use like Minamino Ox Shaq Origi Nico Tsikmas and sign some decent players that’ll challenge our first team.

06 Jul 2021 23:37:32
Ox wasn't exactly cheap? He was also doing really up until his injury and doesn't seem to have come back the same player.

Origi has been here a long time now, has been here before we became a world class team again and has scored some really important goals.

What I'm trying to say is a don't disagree with the overall sentiment of buying players that will challenge the first XI but just don't think some of those names were good examples.

07 Jul 2021 08:09:24
"We need to stop going for the cheap options" - transfer fever. We need to go for the right options, ones that we can afford. Not just spend cash to keep fans happy.
Andy Robertson is a prime example.

07 Jul 2021 08:37:13
Spot on, IronDan. At the time we bought these players like the front 3, Keita, Fab etc, they were by NO means cheap. 36m for Salah, 36m for Mane, 35m for Ox, Fab for 39m (rising to 44m), 55m for Keita. If people think those were cheap signings at the time we signed them then, they need to go rethink what cheap means as that is plain false.

Picking outliers like Mino, Tsimikas, Origi, Shaq and calling them cheap is a false comparison in a bid to make a point that is actually not there. We will make the signings we need for the right player regardless of price. That is how we got here and we should not be changing that approach just cos some fans' fee-fees are hurt cos there aren't enuff 0's at the end of the price.

07 Jul 2021 10:23:47
When you hear that we’re sniffing around a sicknote like Sanches for £35-40m it makes no sense. Particularly when similar amounts could get Bissouma (who can play a full season and isn’t made of crisps) or Aour or even Neuhaus.

Just because he’s had a good tournament is not a reason to sign him.

07 Jul 2021 10:53:24
I seriously doubt he's been signed (if it happens that is) off the back off hie Euro performances VVVV.

07 Jul 2021 12:05:32
Is everyone else forgetting that the AFCON is taking place during the season? Bissouma would be joining, Keita, Mane and Salah missing. People really need to start looking at this fact, and look at how many players, City, UTD and Chelsea (most likely the other top contenders) combined are going to lose to that competition.

07 Jul 2021 12:11:20
Spot on, Oh Mane Mane. That is so 90's. Nobody does that anymore. If Sanches is signed then it means, Klopp and his gurus have done their homework. I do agree that Bissouma and Neuhaus are better players BUT if we do sign him, he will have my support.

07 Jul 2021 12:46:33
Afcon is not a great disruption this season. just Brentford and Palace league games affected?

07 Jul 2021 12:11:20
Spot on, Oh Mane Mane. That is so 90's. Nobody does that anymore. If Sanches is signed then it means, Klopp and his gurus have done their homework. I do agree that Bissouma and Neuhaus are better players BUT if we do sign him, he will have my support.

07 Jul 2021 12:46:33
Afcon is not a great disruption this season. just Brentford and Palace league games affected?

07 Jul 2021 14:36:28
I’m not sure there’s much homework to have done on him, he’s never played more than half a season in the last two years because of serious recurring injury issues and he only started 14 league games last year, and let’s be honest, we’ve got more than our fair share of brittle players so we can’t afford passengers.

Scratch the surface and this has massive hard pass vibes about it. If we do make the move this has the potential to be as much of a waste of money as Naby Keita.

07 Jul 2021 15:06:16
His injury record is a massive worry for me. On that point alone we should stay well clear.

07 Jul 2021 16:00:18
I'm sure if Liverpool do buy Sanches it will just be on a whim and not because they have carefully researched the player.

07 Jul 2021 16:06:08
Not disputing thathis injuries are a concern VVVV and Mark. Not disputing the kid at Brighton might be better than him. End of the day it's not my money.

08 Jul 2021 00:04:32
Balotelli was bought on a whim Thunderbird. That worked out well, didn’t it?

08 Jul 2021 08:02:56
Balotelli was bought by Brendan Rodgers as he was desperate.
Klopp ended up giving him away.
You can't see a difference between his methods and Klopp's?

08 Jul 2021 08:33:38
His recent injury history, since joining Lille is hideous. See transfermarkt for full details but his hamstring seems to be a recurring injury.

08 Jul 2021 09:18:08
I have to say I laughed a bit when I saw the post that suggested Liverpool would be hampered by Keith going to AFCON.

06 Jul 2021 19:48:11
I would go all out and try and sign insigne. Contract up next year. Would he be keen to move eds or staying where he is? Cheers.

{Ed002's Note - Lorenzo Insigne (LW/F) Lazio were shocked to be told Insigne would cost €50M given he is 30 and entering the last year of his contract so will not be making an offer. Napoli are open to selling or including him as part of a deal for players they are interested in and will perhaps offer him to Chelsea in exchange for two players or to Spurs as part of a deal for another target. Inter and Barcelona are interested in taking him but would want to include players in any deal or pay far less than the unrealistic asking price. His agent has claimed that he has had positive discussions with both Liverpool and Chelsea. It is hard to see either club paying such a huge fee and would certainly be a surprise.

06 Jul 2021 20:31:04
A surprise you say.

06 Jul 2021 20:50:27
There it is. I will sleep tonight.

06 Jul 2021 20:35:22
Straight swap for Kieta? Lol
Was it Insigne that Klopp really likes as a player ed002? Seem to remember you saying so a couple of years back.
Can’t see it myself unless Mane or Salah leaves, he would want to be a starter.

{Ed002's Note - Yes, Insigne’s ear is worthy of Klopp’s tongue.}

06 Jul 2021 20:50:40
Thanks eds, appreciate the reply and detailed info. It would be a lovely surprise 😮.

06 Jul 2021 21:45:51
I’m not bothered about Insigne being close to 30, sometimes you have to make an allowance for a brilliant player. I seem to remember Chelsea buying a similarly talented diminutive ex Napoli alumni (albeit via Parma) when he was 30 and he went on for 7 years at the top.

06 Jul 2021 22:07:04
Insigne is one of my favourite players in Europe. 19 goals last season. He's also not really a player who relies on pace or power and is very light on his feet. Never had any major injuries. He is the sort who will play at the highest level until he's 35 without any issues. I'd snap Napoli's arm off for him.

06 Jul 2021 22:10:28
I would love it if we were to sign him Ed002 but surfely at his age he needs to play every week, so can’t see it unless someone is leaving 😞.

{Ed002's Note - It is a lot of money for a 30 year old.}

06 Jul 2021 22:27:32
Are there any of our players Ed that could be used in the deal? We surely don’t have €50M for a 30yo without one of the front players departing?

{Ed002's Note - I would doubt it. Regardless it makes little sense.}

07 Jul 2021 07:07:09
Surely Edwards can negotiate a good deal, no way they are getting that much money when he can walk for free next year. I think he would have a massive impact and would have at least 3 seasons on top. I really want him.

07 Jul 2021 08:43:47
Would Origi, Mini or Shaq in a swap not make sense Eds? Not all 3 mind.

{Ed002's Note - Why would they want players they are not interested in?}

07 Jul 2021 12:26:10
Excellent question, Ed02. I await the answers with baited breathe.

07 Jul 2021 12:26:10
Excellent question, Ed02. I await the answers with baited breathe.

06 Jul 2021 17:52:05
Hi, does any of the Eds know if Liverpool shown any interests or scouted the new wonderkid in Norway?
16 year old attacker names Nusa and plays for stabæk, he is supposed to be as big talent as Haaland and Ødegaard was.

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool can no longer buy players at that age.}

06 Jul 2021 19:09:26
Sporting Lisbon can tho Ed 😉.

{Ed002's Note - I will tell you now if as many have suggested that Liverpool have again sought to cheat and this time roped in another club they will face serious sanctions.}

06 Jul 2021 19:40:33
It’s a never ending story, surely they will have to learn sooner rather than later. Who is making these questionable decisions.

06 Jul 2021 19:53:30
Did he not sign for Sporting Lisbon permanently anyhow?

{Ed002's Note - The rules are different in Portugal.}

06 Jul 2021 19:49:25
Why do the owners continue to allow this, or is it not that simple? I just don’t get it.

{Ed002's Note - With the kiddie from Africa it is not clear what has happened. But is has to stop.}

06 Jul 2021 20:32:44
Nothing has happened here.

06 Jul 2021 23:19:56
Nothing to see here. move on.

07 Jul 2021 16:48:40
It was tongue in cheek Eddy2.

06 Jul 2021 10:51:05
A bit more noise in the press today, Tsimikas to Inter? Brighton identified a replacement for Bissouma possibly paving the way for a move to Liverpool?

Now that full stadiums has been confirmed, wouldn’t be surprised to see FSG borrow against the confirmation of that income stream now!

06 Jul 2021 11:01:35
If we sign Bissouma I'll be over the moon. Excellent player with an exemplary injury record. An upgrade on Wijnaldum and also very versatile in that he can play almost anywhere in the midfield.

I pray to the football gods!

06 Jul 2021 11:23:04
buying players proven in this league who also have exemplary injury records is the way forward, not the Renato Sanches route, please.

06 Jul 2021 11:41:12
An upgrade on Gini? Bissouma has had a good year. Gini was excellent for us, the consommate professional. Obviously something happened and the last few months he was probably holding a little back and protecting himself. Imo we won't sign a player or haven't been linked to a midfielder as good as him!

06 Jul 2021 11:46:17
Bissouma would be the far most sensible choice, he looks a quality player, disciplined, hard working, can play as a holding midfielder or box to box, good passer, quick, physically in good condition.

06 Jul 2021 12:22:14
I'm guessing Bissouma is plan A and Sanches is Plan B.

06 Jul 2021 12:36:18
Think eds2 said Arsenal are interested in Bissouma as well!

{Ed077's Note - indeed they are.

06 Jul 2021 13:04:00
Id like to think LFC would have the upper hand over Arsenal on a footballing basis however agents, money, teammates and of course the twinkling lights in London could be a factor in his decision.

Great player though, some engine on him!

{Ed014's Note - ahh the good old twinkling lights of London, that and we’ll likely offer him more money.

Would love him but god knows where he’ll end up, I didn’t think he was our first choice but what do I know🤷‍♂️

06 Jul 2021 13:31:52
He's more than likely heading to arsenal so.

06 Jul 2021 13:32:35
I think he is a big Arsenal fan though. Stenova, come on man Gini wasn’t excellent, he was good but far from one of our main players. I not sure he would have got in the first 11 if everyone was fit.

06 Jul 2021 14:44:47
Eds…. Will Arsenals pursuit/ purchase of Albert Sambi Lokonga mean their interest in Bissouma fades?

{Ed002's Note - No.}

06 Jul 2021 14:59:57
We’ve got Gini cover. Jones can step up etc.
It’s Firmino we need to be worried about. Jota covers mane and Salah but Divock isn’t good enough for how much Bobby is struggling most weeks.
We’ve Got to be looking at a Center forward before yet another midfielder surely.

06 Jul 2021 15:13:35
Liverpoolfc8, I’m not convinced by our midfield options once we get past Henderson and Fabinho. If we put out any three from Keita, Thiago, Milner, Ox or Curtis we’d get beaten. Keita needs to be moved on as he’s injury prone, ineffective and lazy, Ox and Milner aren’t really centre midfielders (Milner is looking his years now too and Ox is far too injury prone to rely upon ) and Curtis is very inexperienced and it does show, he holds on to the ball too long, his decision making is naive and he’s not the still tactically very raw. I agree that the back up to Firmino needs looking at, but I do also think we need a centre midfielder as that’s fundamentally a critical part of Klopp’s formation and tactics.

Remember how awful we played when our midfield was stripped of Henderson and Fabinho last season.

{Ed0666's Note - we need a midfielder period.

06 Jul 2021 15:23:42
Pesky Arsenal always sticking their noses in😃.

{Ed0666's Note - if he signs for arsenal than good luck to him we haven’t got the monopoly on all players

06 Jul 2021 15:56:20
VVVV I agree. But we’ve got to get rid of some of those players you mention if we’re not going to use them.
The one thing about Gini is he was Never ever injured. And we will miss that. But I’d get shot of Keita and Ox before bringing in yet another one, we’re not even linked with anyone that special tbh. McGinn, Bissouma, Sanchez.
Are they that much of an upgrade on Thiago Gini? I’m not so sure mate.

06 Jul 2021 15:56:17
Yes Ed14 unfortunately there are a few players that pick the lovely lights and lifestyle as a key in there decision making.

Ed666 I agree we need a mid a good box to box style who can chip in with some goals would be nice. Bissouma appears to fit that mould. I did like the idea of a new house though ;-)

Hope you are all well!

06 Jul 2021 16:31:42
Ok its seems only me who doesn't see what others on here see in bissouma.
Of all the players mentioned my personal opinion is
1) he suits our system least atleast technically. The free midfielder in our 3 is going to be thiago.
2) does not score enough which is an actual problem from us.

06 Jul 2021 17:08:35
Gini is gone. The real loss is his ever availability and reliability. He is always a 6-7 in terms of rating. Not brilliant, but usually acceptable.

Keita and Ox can't provide that.
Jones has some way to go.

No point getting someone not ready to start as that should be Jones' role.
So it comes down to this, are we able to rely Ox or Keita.
If not, sell 1 and get an upgrade.

Someone at least reliable.
Ability to chip in with goals would be ideal.

Otherwise, we can always play a 3-4-3, with TAA in midfield.

06 Jul 2021 17:15:04
Unless the system is changing, we don't prioritise goals from MF.
Biss is ready made potential, proven in this league. He is no doubt hungry (unlike Naby) and will give the peripheral players a kick up the backside-Then we'll see who has the minerals and who needs flogging.
Biss makes sense on many levels, regardless of the level you might have seen at Brighton. Yes they see that but they also have a better idea of his potential/ ceiling and i imagine that is pretty high.
JK has a masterful way of getting the most out of all players imo .

06 Jul 2021 17:16:44
Insigne Linked again. Apparently one of JK's favourite players . He is so good, although im not sure how well he'd travel.

06 Jul 2021 17:23:55
3-4-3 with Trent in midfield? So we drop Robbo? Or is Robbo playing left side of the 4?

06 Jul 2021 18:23:15
Bissouma can choose to win things or at least be in with a chance or he could join arsenal 🤣.

06 Jul 2021 19:02:10
I was being sarcastic Ed0666.

{Ed0666's Note - and I thought I needed to work on my banter 😂

06 Jul 2021 22:06:49
I thought that the word"Pesky"may have given it away Ed. I suppose that's what I get for watching too much Scooby-Doo🐶.