Liverpool Rumours Archive October 05 2020

 

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05 Oct 2020 22:02:11
Ed02 if u can!
So shaq and Grujic are staying and because only one can be registered (I know the wp for Grujic) so it looks like it’s shaq that gets registered what will happen Grujic!
I think its bad form he’s a good player and he’s been left in the crap here?

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{Ed002's Note - I sincerely hope that Liverpool sort this out in the coming days - a loan to the Netherlands tomorrow or to Russia over the next 10 days. It is a truly awful situation that Liverpool should never have left to the last minute.}

05 Oct 2020 22:38:14
I agree Ed. Completely irresponsible in my opinion not to find a deal for him. Not fair to the player at all. Surely they could have worked something out.

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05 Oct 2020 22:59:39
You’re not wrong Ed002. Absolutely shockingly bad.

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06 Oct 2020 02:31:43
The winter transfer window is only 3 months away. It will not be such a blow on the career of those players to train without play time for the next 12 weeks. Not ideal and it sucks but not as crushing as some think IMHO.

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06 Oct 2020 03:56:20
A few real bad days club and players don't have a clue what they are doing!
Holding a player like that its actually infuriating. His career is done now. Its been a very bad move for the kid.

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06 Oct 2020 07:22:18
This smacks of arrogance and ineptitude from Edwards' part. He has got a lot of things right, but this is shocking imo. At least give a thought about Grujic's career before acting over smart and smug about the way u do business.
Absolutely pathetic from Liverpool in this case.

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06 Oct 2020 07:30:38
Get rid of Keita.

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06 Oct 2020 07:32:56
No wonder Grujis's dad hid his passport as he did not want his son to join LFC as was reported at that time.

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06 Oct 2020 07:48:06
How is his career done? Talk about over reacting.

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06 Oct 2020 08:00:28
He can still join a championship club, he's better than that but if he wants to play then it's an option.

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06 Oct 2020 08:02:08
Can we not register Keita, Grujic has shown more in two cup games than Keita has in two seasons.

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06 Oct 2020 08:56:13
Feel so sorry for Grujic, the way he's been treated is as embarrassing as losing 7-2 to Villa. He's been pushed from pillar to post but always worked hard and never moaned. He must be a strong character, the sort we need. Meanwhile Keita, the worst buy in our history, strolls out on to the pitch on a red carpet each week. Crazy. Baffling. I simply cannot believe that Keita is playing on merit, I'm sure it's just because of his price tag and to avoid the people at the club responsible for signing from losing face. We've seen managers stubbornly giving playing time to below par players before, and it's always ended in tears.

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06 Oct 2020 09:20:51
Hope Grujic tells the club to f#%# off he’s a better player then keita who should be gated! Shocking carry on to be treated the way he is!

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06 Oct 2020 09:53:31
I'm loving the hypocrisy of everyone here feeling so bad for Grujic whilst calling for another of our players head. I'm not saying Grujic is bad or if he's left not being able to play football for a few months isn't extremely poor club management. However is there any need to use every conversation to slate the next flavour of the month that is our "worst player". You've not watched Liverpool for long if you think any of these lads come close to being the worst that we've had.

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06 Oct 2020 10:03:20
Grujic loan to Ajax to play against us in CL and score the winner lol.

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06 Oct 2020 10:33:40
Spot on Kloppdog, people constantly bashing. Everyone is entitled to their opinion of course but I don't see the upside in just bashing one player after another.

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06 Oct 2020 11:20:24
Kloppdog the point is keita has had chance after chance and done Nottin!
Give Grujic his shot see how he takes it!
The club went wild at the time to get Gruijic and have done nottin but treat him like dirt!
The few games he’s played he’s looked decent and he didn’t cost £50m like keita! Give him his go maybe even remove ox he’s more out then in!

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06 Oct 2020 16:16:34
Kloppdog, just to clarify, I wrote that he was the "worst buy" in our history, i. e. in financial terms. I don't think anyone would argue that 4 assists in two years is a poor return on investment for 54M! I think the majority of fans are just fed up with Keita, and feel sorry for Grujic. It's not really hypocritical at all. And yes, I do unfortunately remember Babb, Dundee, Poulson and many other candidates for the 'worst player' in our history. Cheers.

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06 Oct 2020 23:03:18
Every one getting carried away, werder Bremen had to scrap a deal because they couldn't get their finances together, why are we obliged to just give him away for less than his worth?

He's going on a full season loan to Porto which is a move that offers him good opportunity to play football for a club with high expectations and it's up to him to prove he can continue progressing and perform at a high level. We now can watch him for another season and take his future from there. Milner, wijnaldum and Henderson will possibly all have clearer squad futures by next summer and grujic might perform for Porto to earn his Liverpool place by then. We simply couldn't fit him in this season with our midfield options and number of non HG needing to be tidied up.

Calm down with the dramatic scathing ideas that we've ruined his career or that we owe him anything that our management clearly don't yet trust he has earned.

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07 Oct 2020 19:22:23
Great point Red92.

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05 Oct 2020 16:58:09
Grujic is staying for now.

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05 Oct 2020 17:02:22
Shame they had to be petty about a loan deal, now they will have to pay wages for a player they can't get a work permit for.

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05 Oct 2020 18:32:42
So which non-HG player is leaving? Confused.

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05 Oct 2020 18:55:33
Nobody. Unless there's some last minute activity.

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05 Oct 2020 18:51:29
Maybe there is something I am not getting regarding Grujic's work permit. He was able to play in the Arsenal Carabao Cup game, what changes once the window closes. Is it because there is a potential for him to leave or he becomes an permanent employee at the closure of the window?

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{Ed002's Note - Liverpool applied for a WP and were granted, or maybe only requested, 28 days. If he stays they need to go back and put a case for a WP. He wants out but it is proving difficult. Unless one non HG player leaves to day the club will not be able to register everyone,}

05 Oct 2020 17:19:31
Why could he play in the 2 Cup games?

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{Ed002's Note - he has a 28 day WP.}

05 Oct 2020 19:03:43
How is it that Grujic can't get a WP eds?

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{Ed002's Note - This has been done to death over the last couple of years. Liverpool could go back and request one under the exceptions rule but it would need to be accompanied by an apology.}

05 Oct 2020 19:15:22
Cheers Ed02!

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05 Oct 2020 19:57:07
Who do we need to write the letter to ed2😉 I’ll do it! I saw enough in 2 games to make me think he’s good enough.

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05 Oct 2020 21:38:53
I am guessing Gruijic will be the one to miss out on the pl team, what a waste of a talent until the next window. Poor lad has been horribly mishandled.

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05 Oct 2020 22:06:31
Can Gruijic, still be loaned or sold to lower (Championship) clubs until 10/ 16?

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{Ed002's Note - Yes, and to anywhere the window is still open.}

06 Oct 2020 10:10:18
I hope it doesn't go as bad as it did for Markovich, it's getting to that point.

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05 Oct 2020 15:11:35
James Pearce is saying as it stand no player will be leaving after Liverpool have refused to loan out players.

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05 Oct 2020 13:32:03
News coming out from a few journalists saying that it is unlikely Shaqiri will leave today after interest eventually wained. No idea if it's true, just passing it on.

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05 Oct 2020 14:18:46
I for one would be very happy if Shaq stays. Maybe to help with HG quota we could let Adrian go and finally sign Butland!
Or is Heaton nearly fit yet? Forster perhaps? Or Angus Gunn?
Hard to pick just one dodgy English keeper from so many! LOL.

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05 Oct 2020 14:37:24
I don't generally as a rule call out our players but Adrian is not up to being our back up keeper. He is prone to mistakes in every game and he seems to get beaten at shots that Alison would save without issue.

I'd sooner allow one of our youth keepers get a chance, could it be any worse.

Also Keita has now been in the Premier league long enough, yet he hasn't progressed. This career has completely regressed and we need to move him on ASAP. I know that suitors for him will be minimal but the gamble hasn't paid off.

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05 Oct 2020 19:58:09
When Alison was out for a long time Adrian was our stand-in and he was excellent if memory serves. Now he is struggling for confidence and everyone has turned on him. Against Villa the whole team were awful especially the defence which won't help the keeper at all. I know he made mistakes but no worse than the rest of the team.

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05 Oct 2020 21:41:52
Bang on tongo, with him last year he helped us win ten on the bounce, Or something to that effect.

A number two keeper is the hardest position to fill and he’s he makes the odd mistake but so does every other player. The difference is more often then not a keepers mistake will be punished.

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05 Oct 2020 22:10:23
Now that Iv calmed down on reflection the team was awful, not just Adrian. How many of those goals would Alison of saved realistically. We still would have lost just from the deflection goals.

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06 Oct 2020 23:31:57
Adrian was not excellent at all when filling in for allison at this stage last season. In the first few games he made howlers against Southampton, Leicester, Brighton to name a few while we managed to scrape wins to spare his blushes and therefore everybody quickly forgot his awful panic he bought into our defensive concentration. He cost us with errors which saw us knocked out of both fa cup and CL so I'm not having the argument that he was ever a good option as no.2 keeper. Just because the team manages to get good results doesn't mean he was playing a part that helped us. Mignolet was our GK in a team which nearly won a league, karius was our GK who nearly won a CL, doesn't mean they automatically deserve credit for having positive influence towards the teams success.

Id be very worried if Adrian is relied upon for the large number of games we will play without Alison as he's no where near reliable. His lack of commanding when sweeping behind our defence and inability to pass confidently with his feet will add huge weakness to our game. I can't believe how many are still relaxed and trusting that he is good enough for our high standards and can't see the huge number of errors already within just 12 months of letting us down.

I'm very worried at how much more vulnerable we instantly become and it only gives our opponents more of a boost when they know that shots from distance or pressing our keeper when he has the ball has a much higher success rate than alisson who rarely gives anything away.

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05 Oct 2020 09:53:27
Morning ed002

Any truth in the gazzaniga rumour.

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{Ed002's Note - It would be a knee jerk reaction and a kick in the gonads for Adrian who Klopp only gave his support to last night. It would also require the sale or loan of an additional non HG player to make space - so I don't know if it makes sense at all. My expectation remains that two non-HG players will leave today but the club is going to end up leaving itself in a rather bad place with the Champions League squad if Wilson and Kelleher are moved on.}

05 Oct 2020 10:06:03
Cheers Ed002

I suppose we can't rule anything out after last night knee jerk reactions can happen in the wake of performances like that. Regarding klopps support for Adrian I would only expect that because he wasnt the only player to let us down last night but he has been shaky and poor in quite a few of his starts recently so maybe there is something to it.

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05 Oct 2020 10:06:03
Cheers Ed002

I suppose we can't rule anything out after last night knee jerk reactions can happen in the wake of performances like that. Regarding klopps support for Adrian I would only expect that because he wasnt the only player to let us down last night but he has been shaky and poor in quite a few of his starts recently so maybe there is something to it.

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{Ed002's Note - Absolutely.}

05 Oct 2020 10:12:19
Replacing Adrian would be anything but knee jerk, it’s absolute nonsense to suggest otherwise. The man has done nothing but cause chaos whenever he has played for us, last night was just the latest in unacceptable performances from him.
Ed002, Klopp publicly supporting Adrian is what good modern day managers do, it means very little in reality. Klopp may like Adrian as a person, but it’s very difficult to believe he rates him as a goalkeeper.

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{Ed002's Note - So why have Liverpool done nothing about replacing Adrian throughout the transfer window? It makes the club look pretty stupid doesn't it. Klopp supporting him and then 12 hours later looking to replace him makes Klopp look like a complete flake as well. And obviously if he doesn't "rate" him as a goalkeeper makes him look beyond stupid in buying him and keeping him at the club.}

05 Oct 2020 10:52:59
Jesus christ man we are not signing a goalkeeper today!

Adrian is our number 2 and that's how it is staying, it is what it is Alisson is out. the whole team bar Salah were terrible yesterday not just Adrian.

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05 Oct 2020 10:50:08
ed002 I said before the season started we should let Adrian go because I don't think his any better that the 2 young keepers we have and that would have helped the HG quota. But one has all ready gone out on loan, and I know Adrian made a mistake for the first goal but that was not all down to him and I don't think he was at fault for any of the others. And I would not have liked to have a young lad in goal with that defending from the whole team last night. But without Alisson in goal the team needs stop passing the ball back so much if we lost all are pace in are defenders we would not play a high line.

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05 Oct 2020 11:00:03
Who are the two to be moved on today Ed?
Any news on where they are going?

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{Ed002's Note - Shaqiri and Grujic will go - I would think Fenerbahce (with the interest of other sides waning) and Werder Bremen (although MG wanted to go back to Hertha Berlin).

05 Oct 2020 11:17:56
Adrian was free he had no club! Hearing Grujic is off too Herta Berlin! Should be keita going he’s had more chances then anyone.

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{Ed002's Note - Liverpool paid him a generous signing on fee and pay his wages every week. I have explained where Grujic will be going - he wanted HB but the actions of Liverpool meant it was not possible and now they are going to have to loan him out.}

05 Oct 2020 11:29:10
cant believe all this talk of adrian, he's just a back up. i've always said, its bloody gomez and he's a 1st teamer. We won a hell of a lot of games to create the lead whilst matip was in last year, gomez isa ball watcher, get caught out of position constantly and relies on last ditch tackles with his pace. this was the year to push on and we've done a man city.

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05 Oct 2020 11:33:48
Ed002 - haven't you heard the theory behind "Klopp's Uncertainty Principle" where you are both part of Klopps plans and actively for sale (with replacements being sought) at the same time?

Klopp says a lot of good stuff but also says the odd bit of waffle. I remember when he stated that Danny Ward would be staying at the club and fighting for no1 GK spot only to be sold the next week!

Red Sandman.

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{Ed002's Note - And he added Karius as his number one goalkeeper.}

05 Oct 2020 12:32:48
Adrian played well in the cup game in midweek. Klopp's not going to throw him under the bus for one shockingly (and it was shocking) bad game. All the players collectively have to take responsibility and I believe they can and will. I'm more concerned about Gomez's mental state, so having Matip back will be good if he can stay fit for more than half a game. Hope England duty can help Gomez begin to repair his confidence.

That's a pity about Grujic, Ed002. By Liverpool's actions you mean pricing him out of a move? Shaqiri's a loan or sale? Thanks a lot and good luck today!

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{Ed002's Note - Yes.}

05 Oct 2020 13:58:42
Imagine been an Ed today?

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05 Oct 2020 14:55:05
I love how we never bid enough for players when ‘we know the price so should just pay it’ but when we value a player higher than a buying club wants to pay we ‘are pricing him out of a move’.
If HB want Grujic it’s more than possible for them to sign him. Just pay the asking price. Our actions have nothing to do with him not going there it’s the fact that they don’t want him enough to pay the price we’ve quoted.

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05 Oct 2020 15:30:42
Adrian was very very poor yesterday. And I am not only referring to his mad pass to the opposition. His positioning was pure madness. He really puts his entire back four on edge. Not replacing him could end up nullifying all the good that has been done with the acquisition of Tsimikas, Thiago and Jota. I hope that he is able to raise his game over the next 6 weeks.

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05 Oct 2020 17:13:19
It’s football poker today, about holding your nerve but could still get busted on the river.

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06 Oct 2020 23:44:24
I don't think it would be embarrassing and seen as knee jerk if the club had suddenly shown desire to strenghten our back up keeper on the back of villa game.

I think it's more to do with the news that alisson is suddenly out for a minimum of 6 weeks and it's likely that we play a large number of crucial fixtures up until December with a GK that needs to be trusted. If allison was due to return in a week or 2 and we expected him to play for the rest of the campaign that's fair enough but the Adrian issue is not just knee jerk on the back of villa game, it's also on the news that we need a GK to play a large number of games coming up.

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