Liverpool Rumours Archive November 05 2010

 

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05 Nov 2010 23:53:26
Have got good information that Liverpool are intreasted in Lacina Traore that plays for Cfr Cluj and kenny dalgleish was at bayern munich game watching him but bayern munich and arsenal are also intreasted and 8 million should be able to lure him to anfield

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05 Nov 2010 23:49:23
3 players that are possible in januaryand would change lfc
kranjkar
bentley
llorente/ g. rossi/ toivonen/ forlan
which striker out of these is the highest possibility ed
thanks

{Editor's Note: Toivonen or Llorente.}

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05 Nov 2010 23:48:57
Ed, would the signings of Llorente and Sanchez in January light your fire on this bonfire night?

{Editor's Note: Sanchez won't happen - Llorente would be good.}

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05 Nov 2010 23:43:03
John Henry said nothing of the sort regarding breaking promises. Read and listen to both his and our new chairmans interview and you would say that they are looking at ways of bringing in external revenues before they start borrowing money for an upgrade or a new stadium. Imagine if they didn't do due diligence on the matter and 30 days after taking over borrowed against the club. Now that would breaking a promise but it took them 2 years in Boston to revamp Fenway so it may take up to 2 years here. My gut tells me it will be a new stadium (a bigger versions of Anfield and we will have some work started by 2011 but these things take time with red tape to get through). Great owners these lads and how they are being doubted in the slightest after 30 days is beyond me. Stop being so fickle and support the Club.

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05 Nov 2010 23:38:31
{Editor's Note: A creative wide player and a striker.}

Damien duff and C.Cole good enough? Roys type of players? {ed's note - neither of those!!!}

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05 Nov 2010 23:36:42
Is there any way we can all get together and make Roy realise that Pacheco needs to be playing first team?

I don't know about you but I can see him returning to Spain in January and becoming a star.

Ed? {ed's note - I just don't think Roy will give him a try no matter what, he is a very stubborn old man.}

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05 Nov 2010 23:22:00
Torres and Llorente together would be the perfect partnership almost like a pint and a bag of nuts.
{Editor's Note: Which is which?}.

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05 Nov 2010 23:18:33
What's your view on slightest tweaks? I don't see how we can get 4th if we keep playing poorly (last 2 results we got lucky). The performances don't get better either. You support lfc?

{Editor's Note: A creative wide player and a striker.}
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Would you trust Roy to use a creative player and striker accordingly?

Or use them like he has with Agger, Shelvey, Pacheco and Kelly who should all be playing or close to play for the 1st team.

Who seriously would want to play for us with him in charge? Some of our players now don't even want to play for him except for Poulson.

Blair Mayne YNWA

{Editor's Note: It is not so much what I want - just what I expect.}

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05 Nov 2010 23:10:16
I've been telling this website for many weeks that Hodgson has at least a whole season before any change can be possible.
Now listen closely. There will be new coach's arriving and a new number2.
Names being mentioned at present are Hypia and Hamman although slight outside talk of carl heinze reidle aswell

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05 Nov 2010 23:04:38
I cannot understand the logic behind the push for Hodgsons departure. In most games this season the reds have enjoyed the lions share of possession, playing some quality football in patches. Its just a case of patiently waiting for it to come together. I fully applaud Hodgson for blooding some of the youngsters. Shelveys quality and should be played regularly. He clearly has the ability to open up defences with his passing ability and natural footballing brain. Kelly seems to be a competent defencive full back and Ecclestone offers pace and enthusiasm upfront, something Fernando Torres seems to have left at customs after the world cup. Whilst on the subject, i've started to notice the fragile manner Fernando challenges for the ball both on the ground and in the air and can see why he picks up so many strains as his tendons/ muscle groups are limp upon impact. Furthermore, a confidence crisis is one thing but bone idolness is another. He's not breaking sweat and ambles around the park as though he's out for a stroll with the bride. Come on Nando lad put the effort in son, you've got a red shirt on.

I thought the performance last night was an improvement on the last and the second half effort was pleasing to see. I don't think we need to spend hefty sums in the transfer windows, a good left sided winger and striker, together with attacking full back and we've a squad to challenge.

Roys doing a good rebuilding job. Some of the fair weathered characters being muted as replacements for Roy are short term 'fly by nights'. Frank Rykard! who wants a coward who gobs on your back and trots off. Roys got integrity, a desire to be successful and you can see it in his eye that he fully appreciates that he's the manager of none other than Liverpool FC. We as fans need to start doing our bit, the kop needs to generate more atmosphere and maintain it for the majority of the game. We can't allow a negative atmosphere to be transmitted onto the pitch and players.

The quality's there, thursday was a great result and confidence booster. Have faith my friends, Roys the man, he's steadying the ship and steering it out of choppy waters. The movement on the pitch impoves game by game, the young lads are gaining confidence, we just need Nando to pull his finger out.

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05 Nov 2010 23:01:50
How long do u think it will be before we are challenging for the top 4. I think top 4 next season if we buy the right players and manager.

{Editor's Note: I don't see any reason why this season needs to be discounted yet. Just the slightest tweaking and we can push on.}


A really positive attitiude Editor . . I would love us to turn this season around and start getting the results to compete at the top of the table .

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05 Nov 2010 22:58:49
{Editor's Note: I don't see any reason why this season needs to be discounted yet. Just the slightest tweaking and we can push on.}

what's your view on slightest tweaks? I don't see how we can get 4th if we keep playing poorly (last 2 results we got lucky). The performances don't get better either. You support lfc?

{Editor's Note: A creative wide player and a striker.}

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05 Nov 2010 22:56:19
I don't think NESV will sack roy while the team are winning, unfortunately. and IF we loose to chelski roy still won't be sacked because i think the owners want to be seen as the good guys. which is impossible because every newspaper and sports channel will be in roys corner when he is told to leave (especially thooe snakes sky sports).

also regerding the stadium, you can't just go to liverpool council and say, "we are going to expand anfield/ build a new stadium hope that's ok with you." as a builder i know for a fact getting permission for a single storey extension is sometimes hard enough. so getting a 65 - 80000 seater stadium passed by all the people in suits will be tricky.

always a red

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05 Nov 2010 22:55:17
Liverpool Owners NESV Could Take Two Years To Decide Future Of Anfield As John Henry Rules Out New Stadium By 2012

Please don't start breaking promises the way the other yanks did. don't mean to be negative but this could mean that we are going to have another 5 years before a stadiumis built - not good enough!
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Selective reading/ listening on your part. You did watch and read the entire interview to the full didn't you? Where Henry said that building a new stadium means that the club would have to borrow money to pay for it (thus go into debt - again! !). Is that what you really want then? More debt on the club? Considering new UEFA regulations stating that a club only spends what they make in profits? That means we would be able to spend virtually nothing because we'd be in debt. So whats the point in having a brand new state of the art stadium and a poor team playing in it?

Henry clearly stated the priority at the moment was to make revenue for Liverpool globally, thus increasing profits, thus increasing our spending power and sustainability. Which will lead to a top team on the field. Thats what we ALL want. {ed's note - actually the UEFA rules don't include spending on stadiums, they allow that money and debt incurred to be written off basically.}

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In response to the other responses to my post:

The criteria of the Liverpool board set on accepting an offer involved them commiting to plans for a stadium. Now Henry is stalling this for two more years - if you arnt willing to invest then what are you here for? Dont brush off the stadium issue with the threat of debt on the club because im sure that the stadium issues were disscussed with the board intensly before the offer was given the green light, and therefore they would have proposed a solution to the stadium we have now.

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05 Nov 2010 22:52:17
But if we didn't have RB selling alonso and Masch leaving cos of the owner situation and didn't have to sell Crouch and bellamy for other players we would have a great team and a good squad with XA JM in the middle with SG and FT upfront.
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so u gona say we should have kept crouch and not buy torres. because torres took him out of first team that's why he went. and i think RB shoulda gottin rid of bellamy not risse big mistake.

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05 Nov 2010 22:48:43
"I would rather see a u-17 on the pitch then poulsen he is a waste of space. He is 30 and we should never have bought him. We should have kept Aquilani.
Believable if -Aquilani is better than poulsen
Unbelievable if -Poulsen better"

to be fair, poulsen and aquilani r different kinds of players - roy clearly felt we needed a more defensive midfielder (not something aquilani was very good at)

don't get me wrong, i still think poulsen is a god-awful player - just don't think you can compare him to aquilani!

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05 Nov 2010 22:45:05
How long do u think it will be before we are challenging for the top 4. I think top 4 next season if we buy the right players and manager.

{Editor's Note: I don't see any reason why this season needs to be discounted yet. Just the slightest tweaking and we can push on.}
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By the "slightest tweaking" you mean gid rid of Roy Hodgson (hopefully). If not mate we will not finish in the top 4 we'll be lucky to finish in the top 8.

Blair Mayne YNWA

{Editor's Note: Whether or not I want to see RH leave, I think he will be around for the rest of the season.}

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05 Nov 2010 22:25:27
05 Nov 2010 16:15:58
This site as much as i loved reading it, it is becoming full of people moaning about players and RH. RH has inherited a squad with no quality out wide and up front and he is atleast giving youth a regular chance more than RB did, apparently Pacheco turned upo late to a training and had a little disagreement with RH, but palying Kelly and Shelvey regularaly in the prem would be stupid not with the way things are going atm yh they can be good but NO!
I wish i would see people praising people and giving support like cheering as lous as possible like when gerrard scored the goals yesterday!
RH will not be leaving soon unless some more loses and Glen (won us that penalty with his great attacking ability) and Lucas won't be leaving in jan Aggers is the best all round CD we got but injured way too much like he is atm, Konchesky i don't see what hes done badly so far not been amazing but solid, less of a liability than Insua! January will be big for him if he buys the C.Coles of this world then that's not good enough, but if we didn't have RB selling alonso and Masch leaving cos of the owner situation and didn't have to sell Crouch and bellamy for other players we would have a great team and a good squad with XA JM in the middle with SG and FT upfront.
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you make some very good points. however let me try and explain my reasoning. I worry that roy just isn't the man to lead us forward, i really dont. I have followed liverpool all my life, my dad took me to the kop when i was 7. and i have been going on and off since then. am now 56.
In response to your post, so roy inherited a squad short of width and upfront did he. so what were his first buys then. how many wingers or strikers did he buy?
Next you say he is giving youth a chance. yes maybe he is. but how many is he playing out of position?
Regarding selling players. if a player truly wants to go what club in the world can honestly hold on to them.
Roy knew the situation when he tok the job, he knew the players that were here but chose to buy average journeymen which we really didn't need,

I don't mean to sound defeatist or be constantly moaning about roy. but why don't i have a right to. i pay a lot of my hard earned money to watch liverpool. why shouldnt i have a whinge when we are subjected to second rate tactics and play that emerges from a mediocre manager at best.
I want more for my team. and so should everyone

chris 1

Yeah i do agree anout the players wanting to leave just with Xabi RB apparently kinda forced him out just a shame he had to go. But im not sure myself if RH is good enough but hasnt really had a proper chance to have a real go, cos we don't know for sure how much he was able to spend in the summer but he struggled to afford C.Cole without selling Babel( thank god (Fowler) he didn't) so how was he supposed to get a proper winger in, although why the hell Poulsen and we needed a LB and we got one and someone who is an actual LB not a CB in the LB pos, wether Insua was good enough i dunno. With playing youngsters i know he plays players out of position all the time but at least they are getting a chance but i reall don't get why he kept 5 CM's on and took our only real wideman off, i thought he should have brought Amoo with and Pacheco ( but i think he is punishing him for something)
I wonder if its a coincidence that we have started winning since the takeover has finished and the dark cloud has gone, i reckon if roy could he would have the defence really solid and then let the attackers attack because his filham team where very good at quick crisp passing with a target man (Zamora), he seems to play the same system but without the players.

SAF took Man U from 21st then took a few seasons gradually improving the team from a poor squad like our squad now and making his mark, and a few seasons till he won the league. I just feel he just needs a chance we really could have done with the new owners before the end of the summer.
So i do agree with the problems with roy but just try to look at the positives and exscuses lol.

Ladders

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05 Nov 2010 22:25:11
Adeboyor and gomez offered to liverpool

kd kop

ed i got this from reliable source inside anfield if the price is right

kd kop

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05 Nov 2010 22:23:31
Looking likely that we will sign juan mata then ed? apparently hes at the tops of pools list. Is this true?

{Editor's Note: Nope.}

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05 Nov 2010 22:23:02
My Source tells me that if Dirk Kuyt goes to Inter, then we will get Jonathan Biabiany. i watched that kid play for inter. he goes like a bullet. personally i think it would be a good bit of buisness!

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05 Nov 2010 22:21:13
{ed's note - actually the UEFA rules don't include spending on stadiums, they allow that money and debt incurred to be written off basically.}
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Fair point. But like I said, Henry stated that a new stadium = money borrowed which in turn means debt. Personally, I don't want Liverpool burdened with more debt now that we are debt free. And with a new stadium you're looking at £300m, and surely a considerable amount of that would be borrowed.

Personally, I agree with Henry's strategy. Increase revenue via global commerce in Asia/ America before thinking of doing it via a new stadium. Atleast then, we'd have a healthy annual profit and any stadium debt wouldn't be obstructing our progress on the field.

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05 Nov 2010 22:19:28
05 Nov 2010 22:13:50
Adeboyor and gomez offered to liverpool

kd kop

for free? can we not give them poulson?

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05 Nov 2010 22:15:56
Editors - do you believe in my view that that the appointment of Comoli is the first step in laying the groundwork for a change of manager? The board set up is starting to take shape now so the focus will sharply turn on the most important man at the club. . the manager. Like so many on here I too want Hodgson gone. Surely now it is only a matter of time (John Henry also stated Hodsgon did not know Comoli was coming in until just before he was appointed). I am sure Comoli will have a major input into our next boss. Given the structure that is being implemented I think it is fair to say a continental coach will be next (with experience of working with technical directors) i.e Louis Van Gaal?
Just my views (I appreciate we all have our interpretations/ ideas). {ed's note - I think a lot of it comes down to Comolli, I think he has been appointed to help NESV understand the game and direct their decision, point them in the right direction so to speak. I can't believe that a man who has worked closely with Wenger would not be in favour of removing Hodgson and bringing someone in with more up-to-date ideas.}

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05 Nov 2010 22:13:50
Adeboyor and gomez offered to liverpool

kd kop

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05 Nov 2010 22:12:28
Liverpool Owners NESV Could Take Two Years To Decide Future Of Anfield As John Henry Rules Out New Stadium By 2012

Please don't start breaking promises the way the other yanks did. don't mean to be negative but this could mean that we are going to have another 5 years before a stadiumis built - not good enough!
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maybe that means we will have much much more funds for transfers in the coming transfer-markets. in that case would be good idea. any thoughts ed? {ed's note - they just want to make the right decision, putting us into huge debt to build a new stadium is not necessarily a good idea right now.}

Erm they have a 6month time limit with the council about Stanley park. Their plans will be revealed very soon
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as far as i can remember he never promised anything about a new stadium or to expand anfield so no promises to be broken i don't think he is as stupid as h&g were.

it will take time for henry & co to sort liverpool out the way they want it to be run so time will tell

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05 Nov 2010 22:08:26
Liverpool Owners NESV Could Take Two Years To Decide Future Of Anfield As John Henry Rules Out New Stadium By 2012

Please don't start breaking promises the way the other yanks did. don't mean to be negative but this could mean that we are going to have another 5 years before a stadiumis built - not good enough!
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Selective reading/ listening on your part. You did watch and read the entire interview to the full didn't you? Where Henry said that building a new stadium means that the club would have to borrow money to pay for it (thus go into debt - again! !). Is that what you really want then? More debt on the club? Considering new UEFA regulations stating that a club only spends what they make in profits? That means we would be able to spend virtually nothing because we'd be in debt. So whats the point in having a brand new state of the art stadium and a poor team playing in it?

Henry clearly stated the priority at the moment was to make revenue for Liverpool globally, thus increasing profits, thus increasing our spending power and sustainability. Which will lead to a top team on the field. Thats what we ALL want. {ed's note - actually the UEFA rules don't include spending on stadiums, they allow that money and debt incurred to be written off basically.}

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05 Nov 2010 22:05:30
In January Liverpool will look to bring in a total of four new players:

-Urby Emanuelson LWB/ LW Ajax
Contract is set to expire in June, he is better than any we have got in either position at the moment. Do you think they would take Babel back in an exchange? Otherwise 5m or less should do it.

-Ibrahim Affelay RW/ LW/ CAM PSV
Contract is expiring in June and he is said to be interested in playing for the 'Pool. Top notch player and on the brink of his national side.

-Keisuke Honda LW/ CM/ CAM/ SS/ ST CSKA Moscow
He wants to leave. We want him. Would recoup all of a 20m transfer fee in shirt sales. This is the type of player NESV wants to buy.

-Fernando Llorrente St Athletic Bilbao
El Nino has wanted a striking partner for a long time now and if we went in with a big offer this could be the perfect one. 20m would be enough.

So 50m total but Honda's would actually be free if you consider shirt sales so really 30m. That is not too much to ask is it ed? Of course we would have to unload some of our current squad to make room in the wage budget but if you think about the obvious departures like Babel, Maxi, and Skrtel it would not be that much of an increase. Tell me what you think? {ed's note - it would be great if it happens mate, but I doubt we could get all four.}

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05 Nov 2010 22:03:15
Liverpool have lined up Marseille full-back Cesar Azpilicueta as a possible replacement for Glen Johnson, should the Englishman decide to leave Liverpool, as reports suggest.

The Spaniard has struggled to make an impact at the Stade Velodrome following his 7m Euros (£6m) move from Osasuna in the Summer, having made only four league appearences. Azpilicueta attracted the interest of Arsenal and Man City following his impressive form for Osasuna, and the Liverpool hierarchy may look to take advantage of his grievances in France by offering him an escape route.

Such a deal depends on Glen Johnson's future at Anfield, with the England international reportidly disillusioned with life at Anfield following a poor start to the season, with Inter Milan and Real Madrid said to be monitering developments.

Marseille would look to recoup the 7m Euros they paid for Azpilicueta, which should present no problems for Liverpool, particularly if any club meets their £14m valuation of Glen Johnson.

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05 Nov 2010 21:58:51
05 Nov 2010 20:59:59
05 Nov 2010 20:50:20
Liverpool Owners NESV Could Take Two Years To Decide Future Of Anfield As John Henry Rules Out New Stadium By 2012

Please don't start breaking promises the way the other yanks did. don't mean to be negative but this could mean that we are going to have another 5 years before a stadiumis built - not good enough!
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maybe that means we will have much much more funds for transfers in the coming transfer-markets. in that case would be good idea. any thoughts ed? {ed's note - they just want to make the right decision, putting us into huge debt to build a new stadium is not necessarily a good idea right now.}

Erm they have a 6month time limit with the council about Stanley park. Their plans will be revealed very soon

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05 Nov 2010 21:53:20
05 Nov 2010 20:52:10
What is jwh's twitter adress?

@john_w_henry

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05 Nov 2010 21:46:28
Here's my opinion on the appointment of Comoli. I think this appointment is setting LFC up to be more like an American sports franchise in which the general manager/ sporting director is responsible for the recruitment and development of players. I think this will see Roy Hodgson(temporarily) move into a role that is closer to that of 1st team coach as it is called at clubs like Inter and Real. I think this would make it more likely for someone like ed's Sean O'Driscoll or my preferred option Paul Tisdale to become our new manager. The manager would then only really be responsible for getting the first team winning matches. Of course they would still on new players and have some say in those decisions but it would certainly not be the complete control that Benitez had. And I think this would be favorable to those two younger managers from lower leagues because they both know how to get a side playing great football and winning games but they forced to deal with the stresses of international scouting and complete responsiblity. Also, Comoli is a user of something kind of like the sabermetrics that made Boston Redsox so succesful and I think this is why NESV brought him in. Any thoughts about what I have said? Mr. Ed?

{Editor's Note: I don't see it the same way - if O'Driscoll or anyone else comes in it will be as a replacement for Roy Hodgson. What the appointment has done is put in place a football guy at board level - and this is important in buying the right players who can improve the team - and stopping the wastage of funds on players who are simply filling out the squad and will have little or no chance of making it. To me, Hodgson still looks likely to remain in place until the end of the season. Obviously he needs the results - which in fairness he has been getting since the owners have come in - but he also needs to be playing a game which is attractive enough to satisfy the more discerning fans.}

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05 Nov 2010 21:39:59
See that John W.Henry said that transfers will be decided on a group basis, as opposed to the manager (Hodgson) having full control.

Quite pleased to hear this tbh. Hopefully Camolli will discover some young talent for our squad, and hopefully some good players for now also.

And I'm hoping that Camolli doesn't view the likes of Carlton Cole and Shaun Wright-Phillips as players the club will be looking to bring in.

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05 Nov 2010 21:37:07
Just a quick question to vote on ed .would you sooner have a good quality squad that can compete with top 4/ 5 in prem and Europe and stay at anfield or get the new ground and hope the squad we have could get us back up with big boys. Believe anfield. don't believe new ground . thanks ed psvelnino {ed's note - if Anfield can be expanded I would love that, I would much prefer to stay there is possible.}

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05 Nov 2010 21:15:15
Good point, we paid 4.5M and sent aquillani on loan, its almost as like a swap, juve get aqua and 4mill and we get POOulsen

terrible management

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05 Nov 2010 21:14:30
If roy is the long-term manager for Liverpool, John will discuss everything thoroughly with him. From the "Roy surprised by Comolli's appointment" statement by John Henry, i can see this is not the case. And the fact that John doesn't want to guarantee the long-term future of Roy convinced me Roy is not in NESV future plan.
ed, what do you think? {ed's note - I agree mate.}

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05 Nov 2010 21:12:47
But Ed, Wot are thoughts about the below observations?

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I think that an obvious reason for our back 4, being average, is that we play very deep in defence. As a result of which the mifield also drops deeper than they should leaving Fernando Torres alone up front on his own. . This increases the gap between the midfield and Torres. . . And THE END RESULT :

The press and so called useles pundits and analysts say that TORRES IS NOT IN FORM (DESPITE HIM BEING RESPONSIBLE FOR MORE THAN 50% OF OUR EPL GOALS). . . .

After watching most of the matches, I have analysed that the reason OUR BACK 4 drop so deep, is because of lack of pace of Jamie Carragher. . .It was a very obvious issue last season and this basic flaw is getting malignant for the team this season too. . .People might not have noticed but Xabi Alonso made Jamie Carragher look a better defender, simply beacuse Xabi would always be available for a pass and he would then simply find a pass to one of the attacking players. . Someone needs to be brave enough to ease Carragher out of the FIRST ELEVEN. . in the same way as Sami Hypia was eased out

We are well stocked with Wilson, Kelly and Ayala(away on loan). . . .So we should go ahead and throw them into the DEN. . . I am sure one of the three will take the opportunity with both their hands. . .Its the law of nature. . .NEW replaces the OLD. . .If there is a season where we can throw in players, this is the season. . . .

- - - - - - {ed's note - I totally agree that the lack of pace at the back is the main cause of our problems. We need to bring one of the younger centre backs in alongside Agger, when fit, or Carra or Kyrgiakos when he is injured. A bit more pace would allow us to play further upfield and press the ball higher up the pitch. Winning the ball higher upfield puts us on the front foot and the opposition on the back foot and makes it easier to attack.}

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05 Nov 2010 21:12:35
I just got in and havn't had a chance to read any posts yet.

Has Hodgson been sacked yet?

Blair Mayne YNWA
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Hurricane YNWA

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05 Nov 2010 21:05:33
"I hope poulsen never plays for us again unless there are too many injuries for us to cope."
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I would rather see a u-17 on the pitch then poulsen he is a waste of space. He is 30 and we should never have bought him. We should have kept Aquilani.
Believable if -Aquilani is better than poulsen
Unbelievable if -Poulsen better

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05 Nov 2010 20:59:59
05 Nov 2010 20:50:20
Liverpool Owners NESV Could Take Two Years To Decide Future Of Anfield As John Henry Rules Out New Stadium By 2012

Please don't start breaking promises the way the other yanks did. don't mean to be negative but this could mean that we are going to have another 5 years before a stadiumis built - not good enough!
. . .
maybe that means we will have much much more funds for transfers in the coming transfer-markets. in that case would be good idea. any thoughts ed? {ed's note - they just want to make the right decision, putting us into huge debt to build a new stadium is not necessarily a good idea right now.}

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05 Nov 2010 20:57:18
Guissepe rossi wud be good
anyone agree

believe yes
unbelieve no

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05 Nov 2010 20:52:10
What is jwh's twitter adress?


rijkaard for next lfc manager!

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05 Nov 2010 20:50:20
Liverpool Owners NESV Could Take Two Years To Decide Future Of Anfield As John Henry Rules Out New Stadium By 2012

Please don't start breaking promises the way the other yanks did. don't mean to be negative but this could mean that we are going to have another 5 years before a stadiumis built - not good enough!

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05 Nov 2010 20:49:39
Does this mean Roy future is unsecure.

Liverpool owner John W Henry is making no guarantees about Roy Hodgson's long-term future at the club.

Hodgson, who took the Liverpool hotseat in July, has come under fire in recent weeks following the Reds' dismal start to the season, with the Merseyside club currently sitting 13th in the Premier League table.

American Henry, who took over at Anfield last month with his company New England Sports Ventures, says there are no immediate plans for a change in management, and when asked if under-pressure Hodgson was the right man for the job he told Sky Sports News: "He certainly is at this point."

However, the owner added: "I can't make any promises about the future for anything in the organisation because two months ago I didn't know that much about English football.

"We tend to stay with our managers and our general managers. Roy didn't build this team so I think he has been unfairly criticised this year.

"I think it is my role at this point to support him in every way, to make sure he has the resources to accomplish what he wants to accomplish. There is no change that is imminent."


To me this sounds like nesv are waiting for the right moment to sack Roy. If nesv have faith in Roy then why not say he's here for the long term? Sounds like they don't have faith and might sack him soon.

Any thoughts ed?

Pls post on rumors site.

Cheers {ed's note - I have not changed my belief that they don't intend to keep him.}

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05 Nov 2010 20:40:45
I just got in and havn't had a chance to read any posts yet.

Has Hodgson been sacked yet?

Blair Mayne YNWA

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05 Nov 2010 20:40:38
Id do that if i new his twitter adress. .someone wrote it on here the other day but it was the wrong adress.
he really needs to go sooner rather than later. i think if we suffer a bad beating at home on sunday hes gone. .
i would like a new manager for the xmas period as i think hodgson will crumble under the pressure of a game every 2-3 days.

ed?

jay b {ed's note - I don't think Hodgson struggles with the pressure, he is just very set in his ways and he won't change them.}

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05 Nov 2010 20:38:53
I think that an obvious reason for our back 4, being average, is that we play very deep in defence. As a result of which the midfield also drops deeper than they should leaving Fernando Torres alone up front on his own. . This increases the gap between the midfield and Torres. . . And THE END RESULT :

The press and so called useless pundits and analysts say that TORRES IS NOT IN FORM (DESPITE HIM BEING RESPONSIBLE FOR MORE THAN 50% OF OUR EPL GOALS). . . .

After watching most of the matches, I have analyzed that the reason OUR BACK 4 drop so deep, is because of lack of pace of Jamie Carragher. . .It was a very obvious issue last season and this basic flaw is getting malignant for the team this season too. . .People might not have noticed but Xabi Alonso made Jamie Carragher look a better defender, simply because Xabi would always be available for a pass and he would then simply find a pass to one of the attacking players. . Someone needs to be brave enough to ease Carragher out of the FIRST ELEVEN. . in the same way as Sami Hypia was eased out

We are well stocked with Wilson, Kelly and Ayala(away on loan). . . .So we should go ahead and throw them into the DEN. . . I am sure one of the three will take the opportunity with both their hands. . .Its the law of nature. . .NEW replaces the OLD. . .If there is a season where we can throw in players, this is the season. . . .

We have Stephen Darby and Chris Mavinga as full backs. . .Ed, Not sure why they do not get a look-in? . . . If I remember Darby even played a UCL league game last year. . Mavinga was a standout player in U19/ U21 (not sure) this summer. . . .


Just because Liverpool won three matches on the trot, it should not mask vital and important issues like leaky defence, no width, lack of midfield dynamism (like Essien for chelsea or Fetcher for MANU), no striker backup and most importantly ONE DIMENSION ONE SPEED PLAY. . .


Roy Hodgson hasn't looked to give a solution to even a single of the above riddles. . .I just don't see him answering in the future either

Ed, with Klinsmann and Pellegrini out of the reckoning, who do you think looks likely to takeover from Woy Hodgson?. . . I know you don't/ won't like speculating. . but I see signs of a European Manager being installed who can concentrate on coaching the first team and bring the youth/ reserve players into the first team. .I would say Rijkaard or may be even Guardiola. . . NESV have surprised us before, they may as well again. . . {ed's note - Darby is out on loan with the Inces at Notts County, so he has no chance of a game. I really don't want to try and guess who will take over any more, Comolli will almost certainly have an influence in the decision.}

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05 Nov 2010 20:38:53
Well Tom Werner has been appointed Chairman , though Joe Januszewski was the original LFC fan that turned John W Henry onto LFC , Tom Werner is very much one of the elite individuals within the NESV organisation . Another great signal of intent by John W Henry .

{Editor's Note: Werner is the media guru who may be able to provide the exploitation to bring big money in - I think you will find this is what Sharkey told us originally.}

Who is sharkey? a poster on here ? {ed's note - yes mate, he is a poster and the smart arse got it right, again!}

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05 Nov 2010 20:28:15
Not a rumour just a thought so please don't slate me for it! NESV are all about marketing their product, they need to spread the Liverpool name to all corners of the planet. Expect a couple of early signings to signal their intent. . . .

HONDA - will attract interest and earn money in Asia
ALTIDORE - will attract interest and ear money in the US of A
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Honda: yes please.
But altidore, seriously? Worse than Ngog, can't finish and isn't all that quick either. Quite frankly, there are no players from the US who would fit the bill except for maybe, and this is a huge maybe, dempsey.

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05 Nov 2010 20:22:57
05 Nov 2010 19:14:45
Pacheco :( got my MASSIVE SIGN ready for sunday with 3 mates to hold up at anfield hopefully roy will see it says " PLAY PACHECO OR JOG ON ". What you guys think? ed? {ed's note - I desperately want to see Pacheco get a run of games, but I have never been a fan of protesting during matches. I personally think that is what makes websites like this so useful, we can do all our moaning here so that the ground just becomes a place to support the players who are on the pitch.}

wasnt it put out only a week ago that pacheco is being groomed since roy's arrival to learn the right hand side role currently within the reserves ready for his progression to the 1st team.
an interview with a john mcmahon that im sure i read

s.p {ed's note - so why did he not play there last night?}

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05 Nov 2010 20:21:30
Liverpool to go after the best youngsters for example they have looked at Lukaku 17, Muniain 17, Hazard, Sanchez 21, Coentrao 22, Jones 18, L.Traore 20, Shaquiri 19, Sakho 20, J.Reis 21 Douglas Costa 20, Neymar 17, Lulinha 20, Wickham 17 and then other older ones like Dzsudsak 23, Matuidi 23 , Hulk 24, Afellay 24, Toivonen 24, Payet 23, Erdinc 23.

Liverpool likely to sign a ST, Winger x2 in jan and maybe a CM.
Id like Shaquiri, Hazard, Lukaku and then Matuidi if able to. Then summer Wickham, Sakho and Coentrao.

thoughts ED?

Ladders {ed's note - I can't see us buying another CM, we bought 2 in the summer.}

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05 Nov 2010 20:17:10
We have to get over the 'RH is leaving scenario' for those fans who are interested podcast 5live drive (bbc radio 5live 05-11-2010) at around 1745-1800 JWH was talking about the club RH is safe until the end of the season (no matter what we all think) NESV will not borrow £££s to buy players but will fund the buying themselves. Werner wants a competitive game played overseas (God I hope not) I do not believe bentley would fit into the mould of young resalable players that comolli would wish to bring to the club also on same programme it was staed that RH recommended comolli to the club for this role so why will there be conflict and my final and personal thought I hope poulsen never plays for us again unless there are too many injuries for us to cope.

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05 Nov 2010 20:13:14
No owner in their right mind is ever going to go public with their true thoughts about their current manager because of the adverse effect it could have on their image, in the media and with fans. any disagreement with the manager will be dealt with in a business like manor, behind closed doors at and when the time is right, probably when a suitable new candidate has been found. nothing will be said in public that will hinder NESV's positive approach to re-build the club.

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05 Nov 2010 20:05:52
I watch a lot of gervinho.
he is only 23 years old. and is a very good , versatile player, averages a goal evry 2.1 games for lille.
great pace and good finisher, also plays on the wing for ivory coast.
would be worth a look, and im sure damien comoli will no him well. .
u like him ed? {ed's note - I would like to see a bit more of him, but I did like what I have seen so far, he looked the part during the African Nations.}

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05 Nov 2010 19:58:34
I think LFC fans are too loyal to protest to get hodgson out. even if he is a flop!
its not our way of doing things .
but i reallydo think this is the only way if wer any lower than 6th at xmas he has to go.

and i think nesv would listen 2 us if we were to protest, i mean, he did promise 2 listen 2 the fans didn't he?

what u think editor?

jay b {ed's note - swamping his twitter should give him an idea of how desperate the fans are to get Roy out to start with.}

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05 Nov 2010 19:54:14
Lavezzi would probably be a good signing,
the only worrying this is his goalscoring.
his best talley for napoli is 8 in a season.
could be a bit of a gamble,
if we sign a decent winger i think he would score plenty for us also being fed by stevie.

what u think ed? {ed's note - I am not convinced he is worth signing myself, he is just not good enough in my opinion.}

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05 Nov 2010 19:41:09
"It's going to happen, especially as the MLS and Asian League's continue to get better and draw bigger crowds. It's only a matter of time before the Premier League and the Championship are restructured into a two-tier EPL A and EPL B in order to bring in even more money to clubs. The game in England is close to being ruined and greed is going to finish it off for good in the next 10-20 years. It will be a global league with its only connections to its English roots being that the stadiums are in the country. A global football bubble. But unlike property bubbles or art bubbles, it doesn't look like it can ever burst. I don't want to see it happen. .but it's gonna happen."

I'm usually the most pessimistic person in a room, but i honestly can't agree with you, that scenario is never going to happen. There is no logical reason to go with an American system as travel is not a major factor as it is in the US. The super league has been mooted numerous times and on every occasion has been shot down in flames as being bad for the game. I actually believe we're headed in the other direction. Clubs living within their means being the first step to re-establishing the roots of the game and curbing the ridiculous spiral of money needed to fund teams. We've pretty much reached the peak of how much can be wrung from punters in terms of inter-continental leagues as the best teams are in the EU anyway - there is no reason to go global as the sport doesn't make enough in the smaller markets to risk alienating home grown fans in each country. The rubber band is about to snap back. the extra game is nothing more than an extension of the tours many sides already partake in.

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05 Nov 2010 19:35:58
I have no people in the know or anything, but it is safe to say that NESV are looking to bring in young players and people who will expand the brand that is liverpool fc. I have seen names such as honda mentioned but no one has metioned donovan. I know he is not young but wouldn't he expand our market into the US . What do you think ed ? {ed's note - he was a success at Everton, but I don't think he offers anything to a club looking to break into the top four, I think signing him would be purely for marketing purposes myself.}

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05 Nov 2010 19:35:49
Yeah but ed, a lot of people hav beeen goin on about this.
roy said himself on his 1st interview that the younger playters wud be getting 1st teamfootball,
and when kuyt got injured the 1st time he said pacheco and babel wud hav the chance to stake there claim, but it never happened,
i agree that he has 2 pick the team, but if were in trouble and he hears people wantung good attacking players coming on, he mite actually giv them a chance, he is the type of manager who brings on the likes ofpoulsen when were chasing a game. .

nathan eccleston impressed me last nite aswelll, forgot to mention him.

wht u tink ed? {ed's note - I think the only hope you have is to get Hodgson out, I really don't see him changing his tactics to suit the Kop or anyone else. I wish he would, I want to see the likes of Eccleston play more often.}

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05 Nov 2010 19:27:38
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05 Nov 2010 19:16:57
I can 100% reveal that the new director of strategy WAS brought in because hodgson isn't trusted with transfers.

could be why hes keeping hodgson. Hes going to be NESV's puppet.

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05 Nov 2010 19:25:44
I actually agree with the guy about protesting on pacheco's behalf.
sure, we canmoan all we want on here but hodgson isn't going to see it is he?
the best way 2 protest for aplayer during a gameisto get the crowd chanting his name, so if pacheco is on the bench and were not doing well we shud try shouting his name in protest, same way united did for rooney. (not trying to be like them scumbags) il be at the game myself and will do my best to get players who deserve a chance on the pitch.
JOVANOVIC deserves a run of games again. .

what u think ed?

jay k {ed's note - I don't agree with that, sorry, the manager has to pick the team or there is no point having one.}

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05 Nov 2010 19:23:01
Ed, what you on about about llorente
we should not be buying players hoping they make the first team,
this guy would cost at least 20 mill.
we need to buy proven quality players who will improve our first team, not hope they do.
llorente is a class act who will play in the first team IF we buy him {ed's note - what are you on about? I never said anything about hoping he would make the first team, I have always maintained he is quality and would get in our team. You need to calm down a bit and read it properly, I was talking about him struggling to break into Barca or Real Madrid's team, not ours.}

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05 Nov 2010 19:20:37
Ed. are lfc interested in him though or is it all media hype. do you know if he would be interested in joinging is and would we have the funds?Also on RH. IF a GUN WAS PUT TO YOUR HEAD will roy be in the job after january? {ed's note - yes, we are interested, but that doesn't mean we will move for him, in fact I doubt Comolli will have him amongst his main targets to be honest. He would be interested in joining us, Liverpool are still a big draw in Spain, the biggest of all the English sides. I don't think we have the funds to get him and the other players we need, I really don't think we will put so much money into one signing. I am still being assured that it is believed Hodgson is going, but they don't know when, there is a worry that NESV will wait until the season is finished because they want to let things settle a bit. But they certainly don't trust Roy to be the man to take the club into the future, I can't see them removing him before January unless we have a terrible run of form. The 3 wins in a row have kept him in a job.}

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05 Nov 2010 19:16:57
I can 100% reveal that the new director of strategy WAS brought in because hodgson isn't trusted with transfers.

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05 Nov 2010 19:14:45
Pacheco :( got my MASSIVE SIGN ready for sunday with 3 mates to hold up at anfield hopefully roy will see it says " PLAY PACHECO OR JOG ON ". What you guys think? ed? {ed's note - I desperately want to see Pacheco get a run of games, but I have never been a fan of protesting during matches. I personally think that is what makes websites like this so useful, we can do all our moaning here so that the ground just becomes a place to support the players who are on the pitch.}

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05 Nov 2010 19:11:59
Ed. whats your thoughts on fernando llronte?ino you like him alot but what are the chances of him coming to liverpool? two Big spanish clubs are reportedly going to make a move for him so does that rule him out.How would we get him? {ed's note - the only chance we have is by convincing him that, if he performs he will be first choice. He must know he would struggle to get into Madrid or Barca's line ups regularly, but he has to fancy his chances of being in the side for us. It would be tough but I do think we have a chance of getting him with the right man persuading him.}

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05 Nov 2010 19:09:09
05 Nov 2010 19:05:31
Is kuyt fit for sunday?
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MAYBE

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05 Nov 2010 19:08:23
Hopeful damien comolli will have seen how good a player laveizie is and will put a big bid in imagine this guy just playing off torres he would get goals galore

HOPEFULLY U MEAN LAVEZZI
IF SO NOW THIS SIGNING WOULD MAKE LIVERPOOL A BIG STEP FURTHER TO A TOP CLASS TEAM

LFC 4 Life

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05 Nov 2010 19:07:34
Does anybody know the involvement of Mike Lee former top Uefa official, top Premier League and FA official, London 2012 official and Public relations expert with the NESV takeover of Liverpool? I have seen him in the background of pictures of John W Henry and Tom Werner at Anfield and Goodison and sitting in the crowd alongside Broughton et al in recent weeks.

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05 Nov 2010 19:05:31
Is kuyt fit for sunday?

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05 Nov 2010 18:55:17
05 Nov 2010 18:37:58
Disappointing to hear that Werner appears to be backing the "39th match abroad" idea. Im all for global marketing but this would be taking the pi* if we start playing league games in Dubai, USA etc. Hopefully this will be a dead duck idea, what do you reckon ed?

Nevermind the signings, what we most need now is for Torres to snap out of his sulking and get back to buisness. Loss of form or lack of confidence doesn't justify a lack of effort. . {ed's note - it is a ludicrous and stupid idea, but you can blame every single person that turned up at Wembley for the American Football game at the weekend for keeping this ridiculous idea alive.}

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It's going to happen, especially as the MLS and Asian League's continue to get better and draw bigger crowds. It's only a matter of time before the Premier League and the Championship are restructured into a two-tier EPL A and EPL B in order to bring in even more money to clubs. The game in England is close to being ruined and greed is going to finish it off for good in the next 10-20 years. It will be a global league with its only connections to its English roots being that the stadiums are in the country. A global football bubble. But unlike property bubbles or art bubbles, it doesn't look like it can ever burst. I don't want to see it happen. .but it's gonna happen.

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05 Nov 2010 18:48:22
05 Nov 2010 18:19:46
Emanuelson has turned down new terms at Ajax and will be free in the summer, but I can see them selling him in January. Camolli must have him on his list after watching us last night, we are crying out for left side quality and Urby is a lot better than what we have got down the left , at the moment.pace, skill and gets goals, its a no brainer. your thought Ed. {ed's note - I do agree, it does seem a no-brainer.}

last season he got 8 goals a left back. . ! says it all. deffo think hes off in jan, as hes not gettin any games because he already said he would be going. only one app for ajax this season

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05 Nov 2010 18:39:26
He would be a massive risk given the fact he isn't proven at a club of our strature and with our expectations.

ha ha ha joining liverpool would be a massive backward step for bent!

and sunderland are such top club and who do you follow or are you too much of a coward to say and what are you doing on a liverpool site can't understand why you would be, have you nothing to talk about with your own? belive if you think this guy is sad
kinghenry

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05 Nov 2010 18:37:58
Disappointing to hear that Werner appears to be backing the "39th match abroad" idea. Im all for global marketing but this would be taking the pi* if we start playing league games in Dubai, USA etc. Hopefully this will be a dead duck idea, what do you reckon ed?

Nevermind the signings, what we most need now is for Torres to snap out of his sulking and get back to buisness. Loss of form or lack of confidence doesn't justify a lack of effort. . {ed's note - it is a ludicrous and stupid idea, but you can blame every single person that turned up at Wembley for the American Football game at the weekend for keeping this ridiculous idea alive.}

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05 Nov 2010 18:33:01
My team for the Chelsea game :-


. . . . . . . . . . . . . . .REINA. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

. .Carragher. . . Skrtel. . .Kyrgiakos. . .Konchesky. .

. . . . . . . Lucas. . . .Gerrard. . . .Meireles. . . . . .

Johnson. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Jovanovic

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Torres. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .


What do You think of the above side for the Chelsea game , and if you disgree , what changes would you make ?

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05 Nov 2010 18:29:29
05 Nov 2010 14:15:45

The worst thing that can happen in january is that we can lose our two of the best prospects in january, mavinga and Pacheco. . the reason we all know. . As I already said, you can see, from our recent matches that only youngster who are being given opportunities are English. .
don't know what to do? Any idea ed?
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It is absolutely ridiculous that neither of these two are not on the bench atleast. I hope the post earlier is not right about Pacheco leaving in January, according to an earlier post by a 'friend' of Pacheco, he already knows he is on his way back to Spain.
GERRARD SAVED HODGSON AND LEE LAST NIGHT! CAN'T BELIEVE THEY WILL STILL BE AT LIVERPOOL BY CHRISTMAS.

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05 Nov 2010 18:24:13
Editor I hear all these fantastic strikers names ponsed around this site which if we get might be fantastic but there are alot of anomalys as to their performance in our league but one that I would like to see and almost thought it was a given getting Hodgson as manager was Gabby Agbonglahor I believe him up front with Torres would be amazing and maybe the lift he needs to cement his place internationally.What do you think?

RED WILLY {ed's note - I wouldn't take him, he reminds me of Milan Baros, he runs like he has a broken neck, never once lifting his head to look for a pass. Very average player with lots of pace.}

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05 Nov 2010 18:22:29
05 Nov 2010 18:15:39
Gotta say, that even tho it is early days ive been really impressed with nesv so far, no unrealistic over ambitious promises, theres seems to be no hidden agenda with these guys. they seem to understand that the only way to make any significant profit in football is to be succesfull, and that comes from the gud structure top to bottom. things are slowly clicking in to place. i no many were and still are very weary of these guys but i think a big thankyou to martin broughton is needed, he saw that a good owner is not someone who just throws 30m a year at the manager for new players, but someone who will stabalise the club, and become self sufficient over time. to market the club in the correct way and build a worldwide fan base. . man city may be the richest club in the world but will never and could never be the biggest club in the world. great job nesv so far, but if in jan roy asks for 15m for carlton cole, keep ur cheque book in your pocket please.
what have you made of the new owners so far ed? {ed's note - I am cautiously optimistic so far.}
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05 Nov 2010 18:21:13
Having been quite critical of SS Sky Sports in recent weeks and their apparent anti Liverpool London centric coverage, I watched Liverpool on channel 5 last night. I thought it was poor and made SS look unbelievably good.
And what about the 'dreadful mutterings' of the appalling Graham Taylor throughout the game! (although he was right about that terrible tackle on Ngog).
Where was Stan Collymore? I couldn't see him working with Dirk Kuyt who Collymore has consistently criticised over the past few years or so.
Collymore has not been on Talksport for the last 10 days or so and one rumour is that he is set to move to move to the USA to become one of the main pundits for ESPN America.

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05 Nov 2010 18:19:46
Emanuelson has turned down new terms at Ajax and will be free in the summer, but I can see them selling him in January. Camolli must have him on his list after watching us last night, we are crying out for left side quality and Urby is a lot better than what we have got down the left , at the moment.pace, skill and gets goals, its a no brainer. your thought Ed. {ed's note - I do agree, it does seem a no-brainer.}

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05 Nov 2010 18:15:39
Gotta say, that even tho it is early days ive been really impressed with nesv so far, no unrealistic over ambitious promises, theres seems to be no hidden agenda with these guys. they seem to understand that the only way to make any significant profit in football is to be succesfull, and that comes from the gud structure top to bottom. things are slowly clicking in to place. i no many were and still are very weary of these guys but i think a big thankyou to martin broughton is needed, he saw that a good owner is not someone who just throws 30m a year at the manager for new players, but someone who will stabalise the club, and become self sufficient over time. to market the club in the correct way and build a worldwide fan base. . man city may be the richest club in the world but will never and could never be the biggest club in the world. great job nesv so far, but if in jan roy asks for 15m for carlton cole, keep ur cheque book in your pocket please.
what have you made of the new owners so far ed? {ed's note - I am cautiously optimistic so far.}

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05 Nov 2010 18:13:24
Is anybody else getting fed up with the eccentric mannerisms that Hodgson makes on the bench during matches?
Did anybody notice him seemingly castigate Gerrard for the poor free kick he did early in the second half last night ?

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05 Nov 2010 18:12:23
We the new policy about bringing in young, cheap talent and most likely to be british i would like us to sign: noble, mccarthy, young/ downing/ jarvis/ bannan dann/ cahill/ shawcross, albrighton/ henderson, bent/ agbonlahor
i would like us to sign gibbs or baines but i don't think there clubs will sell them to us.

for foreign talent i would like to see: honda, lee(bolton), taiwo, llorente/ dzeko.

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05 Nov 2010 18:10:32
The good thing about John W Henry and Tom Werner is they seem quite calm and measured and don't make rash comments that can be used against them in the future. I bet plans are been made quietly behind the scenes concerning transfers and commercial opportunities.

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05 Nov 2010 18:07:09
05 Nov 2010 17:10:28
It was reported in todays daily express thet Milan Jovanovich is on £125,000 per week because he came to Liverpool on a Bosman free transfer. Unbelievable really ?

{Editor's Note: Putting aside whether or not it is true, it has always been standard practice to provide an increased wage rather than a one off upfront payment for joining. If for example a £3M fee was agreed over a three year contract - then it suits the club from a cash-flow point of view to spread that over the three year period at £20k per week. And people wonder where the transfer money goes?}
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I agree Editor I was suggesting that £125,000 per week still seems pretty unbelievable for a player who was a 'star' in the Belgian League. I have previously also seen figures of £30 -50k per week for Jovanovich who I don't think is that bad actually. Maybe it was a rogue article.

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05 Nov 2010 18:04:56
Hey ED.

Based upon John W henry's comments today about Roy Hodgson being the right manager certainly at the present time . Do you think if Roy Hodgson was sacked in 8 months or 18 months time that he would find himself moved into a technical role within the club , similar to the that he has enjoyed with Massimo Moratti at inter , a consultant to the chairman on football matters . {ed's note - I really hope not!}

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05 Nov 2010 17:56:04
"We tend to stay with our managers, that's been our history. Roy didn't build this team, so I think he's been unfairly criticised this year. I think of it as my role at this point to support him in every way I can, make sure he has the resources to accomplish what he wants to accomplish, and he is our manager and there's no change that's imminent." - John Henry

Guess we're not getting a new manager anytime soon

True Red

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05 Nov 2010 17:54:42
To the peoples that have posted regarding Tom Huddlestone!

Are you stupid! I can just see Real Madrid paying 30 mil for Huddlestone because he is just like Alonso!
It makes me Laugh

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05 Nov 2010 17:52:53
Liverpool owners NESV have appointed co-owner Tom Werner as the club's chairman.

Werner, 50, is already chairman of the Boston Red Sox, the Major League Baseball franchise which New England Sports Ventures also own.

True Red

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05 Nov 2010 17:40:59
Ed, am I right regarding the following players

Arda Turan - recently underwent surgery and will not move. star of Turkish league and his agent has come out and said that he'll stay with Gala for yrs to come.

Eden Hazard - watched by liverpool, but prefer a move to Arsenal or Madrid. .too high a price for a relatively unproven player, , , wnot be signed.

Alexis Sanchez - agent insists that he can still move to Manure. .has apparently been scouted, but thers no chance of us getting him

GTH {ed's note - I think you are right, I certainly don't expect any of those to join us in January.}

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05 Nov 2010 17:34:02
Long time user, first time poster. Ed I was just wondering how you feel about these players that haven't been mentioned.

Tom Huddlestone (Great shout from previous poster, although no chance tottenham would sell to rivals.)

Charlie Adams

Mesut Osil (spelling?)

Ridgewell

Thanks, Great Site. {ed's note - I don't rate Huddlestone, it is like watching the Goodyear blimp trying to play football. He reminds me of Jan Molby, except his passing is not in the same league, he lacks mobility and doesn't have the ability needed to make up for it. Charlie Adams, big fish in a small pond, that is why he failed so miserably for Rangers - he just likes being the big star. Not for me, though he does have undoubted ability. Ozil is top top class, not a hope in hell of him joining us, which is a pity because he is awesome. Ridgewell is just an average defender playing in a very defensive side making up for his lack of ability by defending in depth. He is still living off being the kid that marked Rooney out of the game during an FA Youth Cup game and hasn't improved since.}

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05 Nov 2010 17:33:35
05 Nov 2010 17:18:57
All this talk of needing a ball playing good passing midfielder i feel everyone's missing an obvious player who fits the NESV criteria- Tom Huddlestone, the way he sprays the ball aroun reminds me of xabi plus he can tackle and is used to the premier league i think we should break the bank for him, what do you think ed and anyone else.

ERM AQUALANI, HE'D COME BACK IF WE DON'T ACCEPT JUVE'S EVALUATION OF HIM. HOPEFULLY THEY DECIDE NOT TO GET HIM, THAT WOULD BE A GOOD NIGHTS DREAM. BUT YEAH HE WOULD BE PERFECT SEEING AS HE LINKED WELL WITH TORRES AND KUYT IN THAT SORT SPELL OF GAMES HE HAD TOWARDS THE END OF THE SESSION. ROY JUST F* KED UP OUR HARD WORK GETTING HIM BACK TO FULL HEALTH AND FITNESS. .

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05 Nov 2010 17:32:29
He would be a massive risk given the fact he isn't proven at a club of our strature and with our expectations.

ha ha ha joining liverpool would be a massive backward step for bent!

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05 Nov 2010 17:28:40
I sometimes wonder what's worse:

-Hodgson's conferences
-Hodgson in the dugout, staring down the ground, rubbing his nose. .embarrasingly clueless
-vuvuzela
-Poulsen and Konchesky
-Atkinson's refereeing
-Carra compulsively hoofing it up field
-Parry screwing up some great deals
-some s* t Texan court interdicting MB, CP and IA from closing the club's sale
-loss of Alonso

What ya think, ed?lol!

God bless Liverpool;it's founding fathers, the fans, players, management, local folks.

Keep The Faith
Silver Song

Ps:seen Anfield's First Lady?Man she hot!(Pity she was upstaged by Stevie)!Has some taste and class our new ruler JWH, hey!Can only hope it translates to the managing and playing personnel. {ed's note - that is a tough one, but I will go with the loss of Alonso.}

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05 Nov 2010 17:27:46
We don't want tom huddlestone he's a big fat lump! ! ! !
or any other spuds cast off wouldn't take anythin off the brandy nosed fraudster.Im from Ireland and even I wouldn't have done business with them for keane that time either.Parry's pockets should"ve been checked that time too I'm sure he was brown enveloped for that too.

Fowler is GOD

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05 Nov 2010 17:24:41
Folks, Liverpool won't get Darren Bent. Sunderland splashed out like £16m on the guy, and he's been a top class buy for them so they'd ask for an astronomical fee for the striker, and I'd imagine his wages would be hefty also. For the money we'd pay for him, he would be a massive risk given the fact he isn't proven at a club of our strature and with our expectations.

In all honesty, I bet Sunderland would slap a price tag of £30m on Bent for two reasons, one, they don't want to sell him as he is a key player, two, they don't need the money as they appear to be financially sound at the moment.

For what we'd possibly end up spending on Bent, we could probably get a better striker elsewhere.

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I completely agree with this. Also Sunderland would most likely drop two or even three places by the end of the season if they were to sell. In my opinion Bent is a quality player, imagine what he could do with Gerrard feeding him. Shame. .

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05 Nov 2010 17:20:31
Fully agree ed. .honda esp, great pace, flair, vision, versatile. .
cissokho wud be the 1st solid left back weve had since riise.
and afellay is a obv choice as we are in need of some width.

possible teamafter jan.

reina
kelly skrtel agger cissokho
johnson gerrard meireles afellay
.honda
. . . torres

potential subs

jones
kuyt
cole
ngog
aurelio
carra
maxi.


do u agree with that team ed?
or what wud u change? {ed's note - the only thing I would change would be to recall Ayala, if possible, in place of Skrtel.}

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05 Nov 2010 17:18:57
All this talk of needing a ball playing good passing midfielder i feel everyone's missing an obvious player who fits the NESV criteria- Tom Huddlestone, the way he sprays the ball aroun reminds me of xabi plus he can tackle and is used to the premier league i think we should break the bank for him, what do you think ed and anyone else.

he would never leave spurs for liverpool!

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05 Nov 2010 17:15:40
Well Tom Werner has been appointed Chairman , though Joe Januszewski was the original LFC fan that turned John W Henry onto LFC , Tom Werner is very much one of the elite individuals within the NESV organisation . Another great signal of intent by John W Henry .

{Editor's Note: Werner is the media guru who may be able to provide the exploitation to bring big money in - I think you will find this is what Sharkey told us originally.}

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05 Nov 2010 17:15:26
How many central midfielders do you think we will play with against Chelsea?

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05 Nov 2010 17:10:28
It was reported in todays daily express thet Milan Jovanovich is on £125,000 per week because he came to Liverpool on a Bosman free transfer. Unbelievable really ?

{Editor's Note: Putting aside whether or not it is true, it has always been standard practice to provide an increased wage rather than a one off upfront payment for joining. If for example a £3M fee was agreed over a three year contract - then it suits the club from a cash-flow point of view to spread that over the three year period at £20k per week. And people wonder where the transfer money goes?}

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05 Nov 2010 17:06:57
Ok cheers ed.
who would u like 2 see coming in jan.
platers we cud afford and u think would be attracted by us {ed's note - Honda, Afellay and Taiwo/Cissokho, that should be enough to put us top four easily.}

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05 Nov 2010 17:01:18
Observations

It seems to me that GJ, should be deployed at the right side of our team either as RM or RW, i think like Gareth Bale he would be a better all round player.

Short term let KELLY/ CARRA stay there till Jan.

Surely to be sold should be POULSEN/ KONCHESKY/ KUYT/ MAXI as have no pace at all?

At least SKRTEL and SOTO are battling.

So if we have monies to spend i would look at DRENTHE/ CISSOKO - LB

We will need a world class CB to play with what we have ?

CM - BANEGA

WINGERS/ AM - TURAN/ SANCHEZ/ HAZARD etc

and 1 striker .

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05 Nov 2010 16:58:19
Ed can u tell me any serious targets that we are looking at and thinking of bidding for?
cheers mate gr8 site {ed's note - no one knows right now, Comolli has only just stepped in and taken charge of that area, I doubt if even he is entirely sure what players we will target just now.}

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05 Nov 2010 16:57:47
All this talk of needing a ball playing good passing midfielder i feel everyone's missing an obvious player who fits the NESV criteria- Tom Huddlestone, the way he sprays the ball aroun reminds me of xabi plus he can tackle and is used to the premier league i think we should break the bank for him, what do you think ed and anyone else.

NOOOO! !

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05 Nov 2010 16:56:31
Not a rumour just a thought so please don't slate me for it! NESV are all about marketing their product, they need to spread the Liverpool name to all corners of the planet. Expect a couple of early signings to signal their intent. . . .

HONDA - will attract interest and earn money in Asia
ALTIDORE - will attract interest and ear money in the US of A

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05 Nov 2010 16:54:59
Ed Martin Broughton is now officially replaced so do you think that the next step will be roys replacement or is there more changes needed as christian Purslow is also going or gone?
. .
but in the article i read that Henry is happy with roy? I hope he said that to keep the players settled and focused for the game against chelski
. .
Liverpool principal owner John W Henry also speaking to the press revealed that the club is in the market for the highest calibre players and on Roy's position he said "I expect him to be here next season. I have no problem at all with Roy Hodgson." {ed's note - I think there are a few more things to be sorted yet, though I wouldn't read too much into Henry's words regarding Hodgson, one way or the other. Boards always back a manager in public, it makes no sense to do anything else, so he is never going to say anything else.}

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05 Nov 2010 16:52:42
What do you think?

believable- comolli's appointment and NESV's new regime is the way forward

or

roy should be given a transfer budget and choose future signings his self

ynwa

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05 Nov 2010 16:52:10
Anyone else agree the more and more i see of Lucas the more he impresses me.Stop giving the guy a hard time since he replaced the average danish in midfield we have won all 3 games!

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05 Nov 2010 16:50:26
Hey all,
Gotta agree with the ed on keeping Agger and push Skrtel out the door if we need to sell a centre half which I think we do.
No defensive mids or centre mids pls (well maybe Banega so go on sure). Turan out wide with LLorente up top with torres.
3 man midfield when attackin and 4 when defendin with turan falling in as right midfielder.

Then see where that takes us till the summer and look at full backs and maybe another winger.
Wat ye think?

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05 Nov 2010 16:48:04
Ed, my english is not that good.
can you please make a concclusion on what Henry said?
"We need stadium changes, whether we build a new ground in Stanley Park or we rebuild and refurbish Anfield. If you build a stadium there's debt involved in that. Even Arsenal had to borrow to build Emirates. You cannot sustain a club in the long term to buy players."
"You're really limited to what your revenues are. That means we have to create revenues worldwide. We have to generate revenues and that's what we're really good at."
what did he try to express? do liverpool need to borrow money to build a stadium? Try to get more revenue and then collect fund to build a stadium?
outline please. {ed's note - I think he is saying that we would have to take on a huge mortgage, like Arsenal did, to pay for a new stadium, that would make it difficult to buy players. So he wants to look again at expanding Anfield, which could be done gradually, like United did with Old Trafford, to increase income without killing the club's ability to compete in the short term. But, in the meantime, while NESV investigate the possibilities around stadiums, they are going to look at increasing income to the club to raise money towards paying for the stadium.}

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05 Nov 2010 16:43:18
Ed can i get ur opinions on each of the following strikers.

lisandro lopez

vucinic

gomez

gervinho

llorente

turan

bentley

cardozo

thanks. . {ed's note - Lisandro Lopez, I just don't see him as top class, better than Ngog, but would be a risk to buy. Vucinic I am not at all convinced by, he just doesn't seem to offer anything special. Gomez (I assume you mean Mario) has been poor for years, now he has had a few good games he is flavour of the month again, but for me he is very average and not worth the wages he would want. Gervinho I have not really seen enough of to make a judgement, same with Turan and Cardozo. Llorente I think is top class, he has pace, power and is tall and strong in the air, the closest thing to a complete striker I have seen for a while. Bentley is one of those players that thinks he is far better than he will ever be, average player for an average team.}

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05 Nov 2010 16:42:56
A lot of major european clubs have the same type of structure that Mr.Henry is putting in place, and he is trying to build a solid self sufficient liverpool to have a sucsessful future, it will take time to put this jigsaw puzzle together, any pieces that don't fit will be cast aside and be replaced with ones that do! we have needed a change in structure for a long time, hence our title drought! but we needed someone brave enough to take the risk of change, and try something new; we have this now with NESV, and it will take time to reap the seeds that are being sown. the times of change for the better are coming, YNWA.

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05 Nov 2010 16:38:11
Long time reader, first time poster, I would just like to address some of todays posts firstly Gerrard(world class) Lucas(potential world class) C.Cole, Mexes, Wright Phillips not Liverpool class, Hodgeson and Lee can not take us to the next level.ps Ed excuse the language but next to the believe and unbelievable buttons perhaps you could add a[bellend] button for some of the nonsense some people chat, great site by the way.

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05 Nov 2010 16:37:37
BIG POST COMING UP!

in january we should definitely sign

a striker - G.ROSSI - 14m
a winger - J.MATA - 18m
a CM - K.HONDA - 14m
a full back - F.CONTREAO - 14m

60m

these are some rough signings would be good because contreao is a brilliant full back (unlike knocheskey) , mata scires, rossi scores, and honda is a brilliant player.

And lets sell

POULSEN - 4m
LUCAS - 4m
BABEL - 7m
THE GREEK - 3m

18m

JANUARY SPEND = 42m

then in summer sell these players

AGGER - 12m
AURELIO - 2m
INSUA - 4m
ITANDJE - 1m
MAXI - 5m
ECCLESTON - LOAN
NGOG - LOAN
NGOO - LOAN


and sign

PEPE - 20m
HIGUAIN/ AGUERO - 38m

and an 8 - 10m experienced winger who can play either wing (any suggestions ed? anyone else)

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05 Nov 2010 16:34:04

outs
babel 8mil birmingham
lucas 6mil stoke

outs= 14 mil

ins
carton cole 10 million
robbie keane 5mil
ashley young 15 mil
danny murphy 3mil

thanks

only my predictions

okhai

any thoughts ed {ed's note - yeah, they are not happening mate.}

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05 Nov 2010 16:33:10
Roy Hodgson does not want Damien Comolli having any final decisions on player transfers and the January transfer window will be a big test of this. If Comolli is given significant authority over transfers like he was at Tottenham then Hodgson will definitely leave in the summer. Like John Henry has stated, he believes he is the right manager AT THE MOMENT only because right now the club are in a transitional process and want to steady everything before making the strides to build the club.

If Comolli does have the authority to oversee player recruitment, then it is a priority to get a class manager in who is used to this process. If you put two and two together what do you get? Frank Rijkaard.

Think about it. Players in Spain are signed by the club's president and not the head coach. Rijkaard was used to players being signed by Juan Laporta and Txiki Begiristain and his job was to coach and develop them.

I think January will test the new 'Football Strategy' the club have in place and will also allow Hodgson time to prove himself and to allow Henry and Tom Werner chance to monitor the team.
There isn't an 'if' anymore about whether Hodgson will be sacked, its more of a 'when' now. Henry would have guaranteed his future otherwise.

Woody.

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05 Nov 2010 16:13:29
Ed do you agree agger should be sold, it wud give youth a chance, and he is injury prone

believable - yes

Unbelievable - no

I WANT TO KNOW HOW U GUYS FEEL {ed's note - I would keep him but get rid of Skrtel myself.}

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05 Nov 2010 15:52:12
Just listened to JH interview on sky. .
I don't think that NESV have a "quick fix" for LFC.

Firstly no "investment in place" to develop Anfield or start on new stadium for "couple of years" - A major loss in revenue stream. Losing ground on Man Ure, Arsenal on capacity income for every home game (approx £1m per home game lost in comparison. 2 years = £38m lost)

Secondly and more worrying, RH job is safe. The reason I say this is no other manager worth his salt would allow Commoli to call the shots regarding player recruitment (Keegan at newcastle, Jol at spurs spring to mind). Director of Football stratergy?? that implies a lot more than buying players doesn't it?

No top drawer manager would work to this system.

New owners? Frying pan & fire springs to mind. .

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05 Nov 2010 15:51:17
There's a bit of herd mentality going on with the transfer suggestions - once a name is put out, people row in behind and keep suggesting them even though the haven't see the player.

Anyone who thinks Phillip Mexes is a good player needs their head tested - anytime I've seen him in big European games he's been roasted by any half decent player. He can't get his game for France, who aren't exactly gifted with good centre halfs at the moment. He'd be murdered in the premiership. I'd put him in the Poulsen bin of very average players who wouldn't be looked at by any of the top teams in England.

A good test of whether a player is good enough for Liverpool is would they get into the first team of Chelsea, Arsenal or Man utd - if they wouldn't then we shouldn't touch them with a barge pole. The problem with our transfer policy is that we've bought too many average players that would be more suited to the bottom half of the premiership than the top four. The only way we'll close the gap is to buy players that are good enough to be in a top four side. It's alright taking a punt every now and again with a young player as they may develop in really good players, but player like Mexes at 28, he's is a good as he's ever going to be - and frankly that's not good enough.

The old Liverpool policy in the successful days were to identify two players per year that were going to improve the team and keep building that way - quality rather than quantity needs to be the way to re-build the team. Two quality players in Jan and two in the summer rather than eight average joe's is the way to get Liverpool back to the top.

Having said that, I wouldn't trust Roy with a tenner let alone £30m

Brian

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05 Nov 2010 15:48:56
Ed what do u know about partizan belgrade striker cleo? was reading ssn and it says were linked with him, 12 goals in 17 games this season, sounds decent.
ed?

jay b {ed's note - he has been a bit of a journeyman striker, now he is being linked with us, I am a bit dubious to say the least. He is 25, if he was that good he would surely have been spotted before now by one of the bigger leagues you would expect. 42 goals in 100 appearances is not a bad record, but it is hardly top class in a poor league.}

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05 Nov 2010 15:47:40
Rumours of Clint Dempsey are interesting though I can't imagine Fulham selling him for a reasonable figure . I wonder wether he would be worth the amount that Fulham would ask for him .

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05 Nov 2010 15:47:28
Ed, its all over twitter, empire of the kop, paul daglish, dan roan are all spreading the news.if it does not have a leg i dnt expect it to be moving so fast.The new regime is taking shape, happy days ahead, keep the faith.

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05 Nov 2010 15:44:35
No Tom Werner is not the LFC fan. He's co-owner of the Red Sox. David Rowe (can remember his name) is they guy that broke the Comolli story! {ed's note - Don Roan you mean? He never broke this story, it has been common knowledge for a while, even Werner's wiki page has him as LFC Chairman. By the way his twitter is twerner1952 for those that use twatter and want to message him.}

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05 Nov 2010 15:42:27
I am told that a power struggle will happen at liverpool between Mr comolli and hodgson with the latter wanting full control of all future signings at the club, and have the final say! it is expected that differences in opinion between the two mens vision of our future talent, one wanting bright young stars and the other wanting established older players with premiership experience, preferably english! this type of rift will put one or the others job in jeopardy, because of the need of agreement between director and manager, and a shared vision of the future. if this rift appears then NESV's latest appointment will be the one that stay's with the team!

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05 Nov 2010 15:39:56
Do people actually watch football. Ive watched the game twice and here's how I see it.

Our back 4 (no matter who you play are average at best. We have the best keeper in the premier league and Pepe has been busy all year especially playing as a sweeper. His brilliance is masking the averageness of our back 4. I'd never thought i'd say this but we need Shawcross with Agger as a cb pairing until Wilson is ready. We also need a rb and a lb. Carra and Kelly can cover a bona fide rb(Coleman for 3Mill will do fine) and aurellio can cover Twaino at lb. Keep Soto as cb cover as he has no sale value at his age. Sell Konch, Skrtle and Johnson = 18-22 million. The books are balanced for my transfers.

Midfield next. The reason we have a -4 GD after 10 games is because we have no vision players playing in CM, and no width on the flanks. Players are played out of position and we are playing a DCM because our defense is slow and average. We need 4 CM (Lucas(has future here), Meireles(has vision), Darfor(Box to box w/ vision, 11M) and Shelvey(The future). Move on Poulson (free) Jovanovich(3M)Kuyt(hate to do it but cash in time 8-10M) Add Mata on right and Honda on left (27 mill combined) with maxi and JCole as backups. Gerrard in a float role/ hole behind Torres and LLorente (32Mill) with Ng'og as backup. Keep Pacheco too. Sell Babel 8 Mill , Aqua 12 Mill Spearing 3-4 Mill.If I got 4Mill for Maxi Id let him go too and promote Amoo. Net spend 25 MILL

Watching last nights game we play across the back, side to side and then short to a CM. Not one of our mid fielders receive the ball and tries to beat their one man. the only one that can do it and has done it in limited play has been Joe Cole. When you can't beat the man typically the ball is passed back and to the side again. Pressure is put on the defense and the ball is ultimately hoofed forward and it becomes less than a 50/ 50 ball. Xabi could make the pass without having to beat his man and the ball was usually a quality ball. Meireles for me has that ability to play good passes (maybe not Xabi good) but he seems to be played out of position and it's hard to play to your strengths if your out of position. Torres is only as good as his supply and I think with vision and supply and a playing partner in LLorente goals will be flowing.

Thoughts ED?? ?

{Editor's Note: It seems like a not unreasonable fantasy side.}

ED, do 2 negs make a positive with regards to your reply to my post?? ?? ?? ?? ?? {ed's note - you are looking to do a complete overhaul of the squad, with players that we probably wouldn't get.}

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05 Nov 2010 15:39:41
@ 05 Nov 2010 14:31:43
I do find it funny how, all of a sudden, Gerrard is one of the worlds best and we are, once again, a one man team!

Lets be honest, the game last night was Gerrard's best performance for the past 18 months and the only one during that period that can be put in the bracket of 'world class'.

So why are we not asking the question of our great captain as to why? - I know he has had personal issues, but if I let any such issues affect my job, I would be sacked, so I do not accept that as an excuse - Must be lack of committment to the cause maybe?

You are a boner! This season Gerrard's the only player who's turned up consistently. he might not have scored a hatrick for a while but please!? !His only off game was at Bolton. The greatest to wear the shirt in my time.

agueroinjanuary

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05 Nov 2010 15:35:59
Breaking news!
Tom werner to be named as new lfc chairman.latest news by dan roan of bbc.ed do u know if this is a good appointment and do u knw if dan roan is a lfc fan. {ed's note - this is the guy who pushed NESV into buying the club isn't it? This is the one who is the Liverpool fan is it not? If so I would think that it has to be a good thing! I haven't a clue about Roan though sorry.}

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05 Nov 2010 15:34:08
05 Nov 2010 14:57:12
05 Nov 2010 12:52:19
I would expect Johnson would perform similarly to bale if moved forward to the right wing. Would trouble most full backs.

i reckon he could be a bit better as he can shoot with both feet whereas bale has one predominant foot

No he would not be as good, he has not got anywhere near the pace of Bale and he does not work as hard either. I think he would be ok as an RM and he would at least offer us a bit of width.

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05 Nov 2010 15:28:48
Folks, Liverpool won't get Darren Bent. Sunderland splashed out like £16m on the guy, and he's been a top class buy for them so they'd ask for an astronomical fee for the striker, and I'd imagine his wages would be hefty also. For the money we'd pay for him, he would be a massive risk given the fact he isn't proven at a club of our strature and with our expectations.

In all honesty, I bet Sunderland would slap a price tag of £30m on Bent for two reasons, one, they don't want to sell him as he is a key player, two, they don't need the money as they appear to be financially sound at the moment.

For what we'd possibly end up spending on Bent, we could probably get a better striker elsewhere.

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05 Nov 2010 15:27:16
The January market is a tough one to shop in. Dont expect too many signings and maybe none. However expect approaches for Keisuke Honda, Ibrahim Afellay and/ or Eden Hazard. However, there will be many rival suitors for these players.

Steven Defour will be monitored very closely and if there is a chance that we can steal a march on his other suitors we will move in January.

The squad will then be reviewed in the summer for further strengthening ie Nando backup and left-back and another wide-man. YNWA

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05 Nov 2010 15:22:02
This is what will happen in Jan,

Lucas will be sold - we will then buy Scott Parker
Johnson will be sold - replaced by Kelly
Money from Johnson will buy C.Cole
Agger will be sold - we will then buy Phillip Mexes

Hey PPL stop saying Lucas will be sold. He is getting better and better and guy is a Brazilian regular.
Mark my word he will be world class with in couple of years.
Why oh why we want C Cole. . Rubbish

LankanRed

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05 Nov 2010 15:09:27
A lot of talk about a lot of player for us to sign, so I thought i'd throw my oar in.

Left Back :- Drenthe : think in the right hands he could be brilliant, yes he has an attitude but that can be fixed with the right mentor and be used in the right areas.

Attacking Midfielder :- Honda : From what i've seen of him he could be amazing, but didn't Houllier think that of Diouf. Still think he's worth a go.

Striker :- Darren Bent - No brainer, proven goalscorer in the EPL, strong on the ball, can play off the shoulder or as a target man and the right age.

Oh and the right manager I feel could do an excellent job. . . Martin Jol.

Sooty
in reply to this mate you have made some brilliant points but martin jol hes cra* mate and we all know what happened with him and camolli can't imagine they would ever work together after damien basically got jol sacked. apart from that mate you are spot on, be great to see honda this lad has so much potential
REDhunty

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05 Nov 2010 15:04:09
I have heard if a good enough offer is made for Glen Johnson £20m+, it will be accepted. All money will then be used to move for Darijo Srna and Mark Noble

{Editor's Note: I think we would be extremely lucky to get £20M plus for GJ.}

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05 Nov 2010 14:57:12
05 Nov 2010 12:52:19
I would expect Johnson would perform similarly to bale if moved forward to the right wing. Would trouble most full backs.

i reckon he could be a bit better as he can shoot with both feet whereas bale has one predominant foot

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05 Nov 2010 14:51:35
A lot of talk about a lot of player for us to sign, so I thought i'd throw my oar in.

Left Back :- Drenthe : think in the right hands he could be brilliant, yes he has an attitude but that can be fixed with the right mentor and be used in the right areas.

Attacking Midfielder :- Honda : From what i've seen of him he could be amazing, but didn't Houllier think that of Diouf. Still think he's worth a go.

Striker :- Darren Bent - No brainer, proven goalscorer in the EPL, strong on the ball, can play off the shoulder or as a target man and the right age.

Oh and the right manager I feel could do an excellent job. . . Martin Jol.

Sooty

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05 Nov 2010 14:43:26
This is what will happen in Jan,

Lucas will be sold - we will then buy Scott Parker
Johnson will be sold - replaced by Kelly
Money from Johnson will buy C.Cole
Agger will be sold - we will then buy Phillip Mexes

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05 Nov 2010 14:34:06
Hopeful damien comolli will have seen how good a player laveizie is and will put a big bid in imagine this guy just playing off torres he would get goals galore

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05 Nov 2010 14:32:46
I can reveal we will bid in the regions of 7 million for Clinton Dempsey expect that to go through.

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05 Nov 2010 14:32:35
I've heard Glen Johnson has already started learning spanish and is Real bound

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05 Nov 2010 14:31:43
I do find it funny how, all of a sudden, Gerrard is one of the worlds best and we are, once again, a one man team!

Lets be honest, the game last night was Gerrard's best performance for the past 18 months and the only one during that period that can be put in the bracket of 'world class'.

So why are we not asking the question of our great captain as to why? - I know he has had personal issues, but if I let any such issues affect my job, I would be sacked, so I do not accept that as an excuse - Must be lack of committment to the cause maybe?

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05 Nov 2010 14:26:22
To the person who said this:
'The new board agree 100% with Hodgson, as they feel he is one of a number of players who are significantly overpaid for their worth to the club - On this list, are also Carragher (not so much because of his worth to the club but his age), Kuyt, Maxi and Agger.'

carra has just signed a new 2 year extension you doughnut!

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05 Nov 2010 14:23:22
Liverpool will made for Hugo Almeida and Marko Marin for £14m+Babel. Almeida's contract runs out in the summer, so he will be cheap, and Marin fits into NESV's player mould. We will also make a £10m bid for Aly Cissokho, who is out of favour at Lyon. Mexes will also come in for a cut price of £6m

Team after January;

Reina

Johnson Mexes Agger Cissokho

Cole Lucas Gerrard Marin

Almeida Torres

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05 Nov 2010 14:22:13
Dimitri payet is a player who could really transform us in the final third of the pitch, hes quick direct skilful and has an eye for goal. with comolli on board now surely he will become a target sign him in jan hes class. ur thoughts ed? mr bad {ed's note - if he is as good as people say then Comolli will know.}

(6) (3)

From what i have been told we will definatly be bidding for payet, maybe a double swoop for payet & matuidi could be on the cards. ED what do you think to the cleo rumour? Thanks for your time.

BigBirdBilly

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05 Nov 2010 13:53:10
Ed do u agree with me that Gomez from bayern has played alot better this season it seems like everytime I see him he is scoring a goal and the other night he had a hat trick but I think that now he will either cost to much for his age or that they won't want to let him go??

Redman

{Editor's Note: Gomez is playing well.}

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05 Nov 2010 13:35:16
05 Nov 2010 13:23:40
Douglas costa Would be a fantastic buy Why not give it a go What you think ed? {ed's note - not really seen a lot of him to be honest, I keep hearing about him but have only seen youtube clips, which I don't trust.}


I agree with the poster. Looks a good buy. Did you not watch Arsenal's games against Shakhtar Ed? Or do you not trust the TV either? {ed's note - no I didn't mate, there are 8 games on at the same time, I am good but not good enough to watch them all!}

he his amazing arsenal will prob try n get him.

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05 Nov 2010 13:32:01
Santa to Elf " I'm getting sick of this. Every year I have to put on this red outfit, do all the work myself, looking like a right t*@t and I end up with nothing! "
Elf replies " Now you know how Steven Gerrard feels!"

I love Liverpool but this still tickled me! !

Ed what do you think about the Wolves lad Jarvis? He'd do us! Probably a bit too attacking for Woy mind. . you know. .he can run at pace with the ball at his feet! Why have him when you can get midfield dynamos like Poulsen? Is dynamo the word I was after?
Matt YNWA

{Editor's Note: I don't see Jarvis as adding anything.}

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05 Nov 2010 13:24:34
Dimitri payet is a player who could really transform us in the final third of the pitch, hes quick direct skilful and has an eye for goal. with comolli on board now surely he will become a target sign him in jan hes class. ur thoughts ed? mr bad {ed's note - if he is as good as people say then Comolli will know.}

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05 Nov 2010 13:23:40
Douglas costa Would be a fantastic buy Why not give it a go What you think ed? {ed's note - not really seen a lot of him to be honest, I keep hearing about him but have only seen youtube clips, which I don't trust.}


I agree with the poster. Looks a good buy. Did you not watch Arsenal's games against Shakhtar Ed? Or do you not trust the TV either? {ed's note - no I didn't mate, there are 8 games on at the same time, I am good but not good enough to watch them all!}

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05 Nov 2010 13:08:45
Glen Johnson IS leaving Liverpool in January - Hodgson has identified him as the trouble maker within the ranks and I know, from a conversation I had with a 'first team player' some months ago, that he is extemely unpopular with the more senior squad members, due to his arrogent attitude (and he must be very arrogent if another footballer finds him cocky!)

Offers have already been recieved from Inter, Juve and, surprisingly, Aresenal, which have met the clubs valuation of £15m, however, the major sticking point with all three is that they are unwilling to meet his salary demands, which is reported to be c£90k+ per week.

The new board agree 100% with Hodgson, as they feel he is one of a number of players who are significantly overpaid for their worth to the club - On this list, are also Carragher (not so much because of his worth to the club but his age), Kuyt, Maxi and Agger.

No idea if there are plans to replace him or give Kelly a well deserved run in the team.

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05 Nov 2010 13:08:07
05 Nov 2010 12:48:45
05 Nov 2010 00:15:11

04 Nov 2010 22:41:55

{ed's note - I really don't understand his reluctance to give Pacheco a chance, there is no injury keeping him out, it is a conscious decision by Roy to leave him out.}
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It's the same reason he won't play Agger ED and insists on playing Poulson.

He hasn't got a clue!

Blair Mayne YNWA
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Isn't Dan AGGER injured?

Trishan {ed's note - no he is 'ill'.}
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ED. From what i've been reading he's got a serious calf problem. what illness does he have?

Trishan {ed's note - I don't have a clue, he was listed as ill for weeks, now all the difficult questions are starting be asked he has suddenly developed a calf injury. Seems dodgy to me.}

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05 Nov 2010 13:05:00
In reply to following:
{ed's note - I really don't understand his reluctance to give Pacheco a chance, there is no injury keeping him out, it is a conscious decision by Roy to leave him out.}
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It's the same reason he won't play Agger ED and insists on playing Poulson.

He hasn't got a clue!

Blair Mayne YNWA
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Isn't Dan AGGER injured?

Trishan {ed's note - no he is 'ill'.}

According to the LFC web site, Agger has been to see a specialist yesterday due to a calf injury. {ed's note - that is a complete change because he has been listed as ill for weeks, there has been no mention of any injury.}

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05 Nov 2010 13:04:21
I think Harry Redknapp told Gareth Bale to stop thinking about his hair and more about his football, I think Glen Johnson should do the same

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05 Nov 2010 12:58:53
{ed's note - Mavinga plays centre back for the ressies mostly, that is why Robinson plays left back. Mavinga is good enough, but he is seen as a better centre back.}

ed have you seen mavinga play though? hes class, when at CB hes solid, and no-one gets past him. and when LB hes got speed and get right up there, overlapping etc he'd be my option for left back over Robinson although he is very very good himself. he complained about Roy liking English players more than foreign because he feels that he should have played at left back when there were no natural left backs to play (or giving him a chance by selecting him for reserves) as he is a natural left back. this would also have kept Agger happy. which Roy should be doing as he is our best CB atm. .but i think he has a point about roy look at Pacheco {ed's note - I really rate Mavinga, he was outstanding for France in the U19s Euros and looks the business. I would like to see him given a chance at left back in the first team.}

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05 Nov 2010 12:52:19
I would expect Johnson would perform similarly to bale if moved forward to the right wing. Would trouble most full backs.

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05 Nov 2010 12:48:45
05 Nov 2010 00:15:11

04 Nov 2010 22:41:55

{ed's note - I really don't understand his reluctance to give Pacheco a chance, there is no injury keeping him out, it is a conscious decision by Roy to leave him out.}
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It's the same reason he won't play Agger ED and insists on playing Poulson.

He hasn't got a clue!

Blair Mayne YNWA
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Isn't Dan AGGER injured??

Trishan {ed's note - no he is 'ill'.}

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05 Nov 2010 12:46:45
"but he just doesn't have the ability for the top level."
Same must apply to all first team our centre backs.Sack 'em all and play the youngsters :-)

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05 Nov 2010 12:41:57
I know he gives 100% and has scored a couple but how can you people seriously think thay kyrgiakos is good enough? He has no tactical or positional awareness wat so ever! He is too slow. I know ul say pace doesn't matter and you are right in cases such as maldini and sammi etc but they culd read the game so well that they were hardly ever exploited through speed. He has to go! And people saying we played well you ust be joking. It really worries me to think where we would be without steven gerrard. Roy is a joke. Get him out. Bring through mavinga, pacheco, sousa, wilson and get rid of konchesky, poulsen, jovanovic etc. Play gerrard centre md and bring a manager wh doesn't play ultra defnsive at home! Your thoughts ed? {ed's note - I couldn't agree more mate, Kyrgiakos doesn't read the ball well enough to make up for his lack of pace and Roy needs to go for the throat or go elsewhere.}

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05 Nov 2010 12:34:40
If you put Meireles in ahead of Lucas your heading in the right direction
05 Nov 2010 12:08:33
Depending on fittness- this is liverpool's best team
reina
kelly skrtel agger aurelio

johnson gerrard lucas cole

kuyt/ ngog(
torres

very impressed with ngog lately- great ability to hold the play and lay it off to team mate.

best team - believeable
no so great- unbelieveable

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05 Nov 2010 12:33:36
It could be worse . . .we could have Mancini as manager.

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05 Nov 2010 12:32:59
If whats been said on here is true about the likes of Pacheco and Mavinga being frozen out because they're not English, Roy has to go! Was Lauri Dalle Valle a deal breaker in the Konchesky deal? Dalle Valle had quality, well we have Ngoo (not N'Gog) he looks more a Heskey than a Drogba. It's a real shame we let Mikel San Jose leave, has shown undoubted quality at Bilbao this season. But it seems our whole youth system has stagnated completely, Gerardo Bruna - when brought was said to be the next Messi in the making, what has he done for us? Nikola Saric - Im pretty sure he was playing 1st team football wherever we brought him from, and has spent the last 2-3 years in our youths and reserves. Something needs to change, we have Raheem Sterling, Toni Silva and Suso, who if given the chance could be mainstays of our side for 10-15 years, with the potential quality we have but they won't be given the opportunity under this regime. Roy has somehow got himself a stay of execution with 3 scrappy wins, but if we get spanked on Sunday vs Chelsea, in what will be in Roy's words the performance of our season -He has to go!

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05 Nov 2010 12:31:47
This talk of st.ledger andcole etc is absouloutely terrible if its tru.
but, im not too disappointed with the bentley rumour,
i think he wud be an excellent signing and wouldn't cost more then 9million. .he should be starting for spurs ahead of lennon.

what u think ed?
and what are these youngsters off st ethienne like?
theyve been mentioned alot.

jay b {ed's note - Bentley is not good enough, end of, he is a very average players. I don't know much about the St. Etienne youngsters, other than that they are highly rated.}

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05 Nov 2010 12:29:53
"05 Nov 2010 09:40:22
Just heard from friend in uk who is friends with a certain Scottish agent that that roys head is on the block n the club have agreed with a new manager who will me announced on Monday morning he said he didn't know who it was bit it will happen this is the same guy who told me robbie keane was signing for us while he was on hols in Ibiza he was spot on last time I hope he is this time also n by the way he's a gooner"

My feelings is that Monday is the favourite date, if NESV has decided to move Roy on.
Before Sunday would be too soon for a new man to make any difference to the tactics, and it might disrupt the team, but the change would have to be asap afterwards, to give the new guy as much time as poss before his first game.
I think seeing how one man lifted the whole performance last night will have only emphasised to NESV how poorly we were playing, so even though it was a win, it will do Roy no good, because SG will rightly get most of the credit and not Roy.
So my guess is that Sunday's result is irrelevant to Roy now- if he is getting replaced before the 30 day deadline for a cheap payoff, it has to happen early next week I think.
If he does, it will be a case of a well-meaning man who has had a very difficult time in the summer, but who was unable to adapt his trusted methods to a club where winning is the weekly expectation- and he has not been able to see or to accept that in order to achieve enough wins, you actually have to go and play as if you want them.
Stevie G aside, press believe if you think it was crap tactics that made the team so poorly in the first half, or unbelieve if you think it was the players own fault, and they just werent hungry enough for the win.

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05 Nov 2010 12:27:20
Reply to:

Pachecco needs regular games, I can see hime going out on loan in January, perhaps abroad. {ed's note - Mavinga plays centre back for the ressies mostly, that is why Robinson plays left back. Mavinga is good enough, but he is seen as a better centre back.}


Fair point Ed, but then again, which 2 would you have for the ressies at CB, Mavinga, Wisdom, Ayala, (when back from loan), or Wilson? I promise I'm not anti-forgeign/ Mavinga, but just see the other 3 as better prospects and players, and by that rationale, should be given first team opportunities first. {ed's note - Ayala is the best centre back prospect, but Mavinga is better than Wisdom right now, and as good as Wilson. But Mavinga is probably the most physically capable of all our young players, alongside Ayala would be a great combination in my opinion.}

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05 Nov 2010 12:26:35
John Henry needs to be informed about Pacheco and not to let him leave at all costs! He is going to be something special, what is Roy thinking. Roy needs to leave now! I'm getting more and more bitter towards him everyday. Can we get a petition going for Pacheco to be given a chance and send it henrys way?? Roy is ignorant to class

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05 Nov 2010 12:23:50
Red Lenin, Completely agree with your post, spot on. Surely Roys hand has now been forced in the fact that he can never pick Poulsen over Spearing or Shelvey again. Would liked to have had a look at Jova playing upfront though. When you play with un-natural wingers, their insticts bring them in field, giving the man on the ball no options while also making it much easier for the defending side to contain you. Ecclestone give us width when he came on, which opened space up in the middle of the pitch. While it wasn't a world beating 2nd half, its something to build on, and as long SG keeps ignoring Roy we've got a chance.
Thought Lavezzi was once again more than a handful, and would definately be a welcomed addition. Any ideas if hes being scouted Ed?

Tommy Walsh {ed's note - he was in the past, whether that still applies or not now is anyone's guess.}

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05 Nov 2010 12:15:31
05 Nov 2010 11:20:42
Ed has turbaned changed cos rumour page has changed on my iPhone but still same on banter page ie won't fit on my iPhone properly? {ed's note - I am sorry mate, I really don't understand what you mean.}

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Yea rumor page does not fit on the iphone but the banter page will! why please fix it {ed's note - not having an iPhone to look at it on, I wouldn't know mate, but I am getting it looked at.}

Thanks Ed sorted it's back to working order. It changed yesterday for some reason, Lol I understand you not understanding first comment I didn't read back before I sent it and when you type on iPhone as your typing it will spell a word that seems to be what your typing and its a load ov gobble de gook lol soz for baffling ye head but I see someone got the jist what the problem was as they commented on it too. But yes all fixed nice one. Anyway "strictly come dancing" "who would you like to see to win and who would you like on the next show" lol {ed's note - I have used an iPhone more often than I have seen strictly, I have only used an iPhone once.....}

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05 Nov 2010 12:08:33
Depending on fittness- this is liverpool's best team
reina
kelly skrtel agger aurelio

johnson gerrard lucas cole

kuyt/ ngog(
torres

very impressed with ngog lately- great ability to hold the play and lay it off to team mate.

best team - believeable
no so great- unbelieveable

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05 Nov 2010 12:02:24
If Honda is the only player to sign in January I'll be happy. The starting line up after January should look like this:

- - - - - - - - - Reina- - - - - - - - - -
- - Kelly- -Carra- -Agger- -Aurelio- -
- - - - - - - - -Meireles- - - - - - - - -
- - Johnson- - - - - - - - - - Honda- -
- - - - - Gerrard- - - - -Lucas- - - - -
- - - - - - - - - -Torres- - - - - - - - -

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05 Nov 2010 11:38:20
Ed, in response to Tommy Walsh's great summary of last night/ Roy's abilities and although it was an extremely funny Robbie Savage comment, is that all you had to say in response? {ed's note - what else is there to say? I agreed with what he had to say, Roy is not doing the business, Gerrard was the difference last night. I don't think I could have summed it up better myself, so why not let his comments stand on their own? I was just replying to the point he made to me, I understand what he was saying and Kyrgiakos's effort and application can't be faulted, but he is simply not good enough. It is a shame because he is very likeable, he gives his all in every game, but he just doesn't have the ability for the top level.}

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05 Nov 2010 11:37:13
Reply to:
05 Nov 2010 10:06:30

Just had a conversation with a friend of Pacheco. He is gone in January. Thats why Roy isn't playing him. He wants ENGLISH youth. . . Roy is a NOB. One day that lad will rise to the top. W* nker Roy will regret this.
Beaver Red

Hmmmmm, Ngog and Pachecco are the only foreign youth's who could even close to the first team in any competition, there's a reason why Robinson plays LB for the ressies, cos Mavinga isn't good enough / as good as Jack. Ayala and Suso are the only future fringe players I can see breaking through in some capacity.

Pachecco needs regular games, I can see hime going out on loan in January, perhaps abroad. {ed's note - Mavinga plays centre back for the ressies mostly, that is why Robinson plays left back. Mavinga is good enough, but he is seen as a better centre back.}

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05 Nov 2010 11:35:34
Would love to see a bid for Francisco 'Paco' Alcacer of Valencia looks outstanding at such a young age. . But with Roy at the helm can't see him blinking an eye at him! Cannot understand why Pacheco wasn't on the field last night he should of been wide right with shelvey through the middle! Fix up Roy play the lad!

BigBirdBilly

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05 Nov 2010 11:31:04
Just heard from friend in uk who is friends with a certain Scottish agent that that roys head is on the block n the club have agreed with a new manager who will me announced on Monday morning he said he didn't know who it was bit it will happen this is the same guy who told me robbie keane was signing for us while he was on hols in Ibiza he was spot on last time I hope he is this time also n by the way he's a gooner

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05 Nov 2010 11:30:14
Just like to put my two team lin-ups forward for debate:

AWAY:

- - - - - - - - - -REINA- - - - - - - - -

KELLY- - SKRTEL- - - -AGGER- -KONCHESKY

- - -MEREILLES- GERRARD- SHELVEY- - -

- -MAXI- - - - - - - - - - - - - COLE- -

- - - - - - - - - TORRES- - - - - - - -

subs:Jones, Wilson, Spearing, Kuyt, Ngog, Carragher, Pacheco

HOME:

- - - - - - - - - -REINA- - - - - - - - -

KELLY- -SKRTEL- - - - -AGGER- KONCHESKY

- - - - - MEREILLES- -GERRARD- - - - - -

- - PACHECO- - - - - - - - - -COLE- - - -

- - - - - - -TORRES- - -ECCLESTON- - - -

subs:Jones, Wilson, Shelvey, Ngog, Spearing, Carragher, Maxi

What you reckon guys?
agree=believeable
disagree unbeliveable
what your thoughts ed? {ed's note - why do we need to play differently home and away? Surely players should be flexible enough to adapt to the situation and be able to perform in either place?}

Because it is easier in my opinion to blood in younger players at home to start with and also because away games are harder to get points and therefor a bit more experiance is required. do you agree ed? {ed's note - I disagree, there is less pressure on them away from home, less is expected, but they also don't have the crowd behind them. To me it should make little to no difference, just play the best team you have available for every match.}

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05 Nov 2010 11:28:21
I hope Pacheco stays here, for long. But the way, he is being treated is really annoying me. . I see Mavinga commented right on Hodgson. He is only giving english youngsters, the chances. . but if Pacheco comes any closer to exit. I must say, we should book the tickets for Roy, before him.
Ed, your thoughts on Roy being biased to English talents. .! {ed's note - I think it is becoming clearer by the day that he is, he would rather play Shelvey out of position than give Pacheco a chance in the position he claims he wants him to play.}

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05 Nov 2010 11:27:32
Can those of you that are on it, please get off the 'lets sell Glen Johnson' band wagon. He isn't the best defensive RB in the league, but he is the best offensive RB. Unlike any RB in the league GJ has got to a RB and a winger all at the same time. We play without any natural wingers, Which means that when GJ gets the ball he has no options in front of him, he has to carry the ball and he is the one player who gives us width. And when the opposition then get the ball he is obviously going to be out of position, he can't attack and defend at the same time.
Tommy Walsh

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05 Nov 2010 11:20:42
Ed has turbaned changed cos rumour page has changed on my iPhone but still same on banter page ie won't fit on my iPhone properly?? {ed's note - I am sorry mate, I really don't understand what you mean.}

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Yea rumor page does not fit on the iphone but the banter page will! why please fix it {ed's note - not having an iPhone to look at it on, I wouldn't know mate, but I am getting it looked at.}

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05 Nov 2010 11:11:06
It really surprises that Pacheco is not being given any chances to get into the first team. What Hodgson is thinking about. If it continues, I am afraid that we might lose Pacheco, who is one of the brightest prospect in the world. Ed, your thoughts about it? {ed's note - he won't be with us much longer, he has teams queueing up to get him for their first team and yet he struggles to get in our ressies. It must be disheartening for the lad, completely demoralising.}

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05 Nov 2010 11:11:06
05 Nov 2010 03:29:57
buy cole from west ham and blaise matuidi

Is that you Roy?

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05 Nov 2010 11:10:21
"05 Nov 2010 09:29:47
Come jan and c.cole, bentley, st ledger & taraabt will be joining the reds"

I smell the bait of a Spud. ;)

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05 Nov 2010 11:06:51
Hopefully Roy now knows that Gerrard shouldn't be given directions on where to play, because he is too good for that. Do you think Messi, Xavi and Iniesta are told what to do? The midfield needs to adapt to Gerrard, and if that means Meireles holding back, so be it.

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05 Nov 2010 11:06:42
Hulk elia affely and drenthe is what i would add on in january

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05 Nov 2010 11:06:09
With a 5hr drive home from Anfield, at half time lets just say I wasn't looking forward to it. But as I got back to my seat after the interval, I looked down to the pitch and thought: Is it a bird? Is it a plane? No it was Stevie G. And boy did he have his cape on last night.
First half, we were dire (except Spearing and Soto). When they had the ball, with only Ngog upfront they comfortably brought the ball into our half before really being pressed. Whereas when Pepe give the ball to Carra or Soto, they were being pressed in and around our box. As soon Napoli got the ball our defence dropped back onto our 18yd line with a bank of 5 midfielders strung across the pitch a few yards in front of them and invited them to attack us, every time, bar none. Hodgson is the most negative manager I have ever seen. And so, onto the waste of skin that is C.Poulsen. I would be fuming with a pub league player if he missed as many headers as he does, let alone a prem player. I watched him specifically for about 5mins (had to stop after that, couldn't take it any more), he wanders around infront of the defence marking no-one, when there is someone to be marked he just passes him on, He gets caught under the ball everytime it goes in the air, he can't make simple square balls, He wasn't even under pressure with that header that sent them clean through. Spearing, with his passing and work rate first half really did put Poulsen and Roy to shame.
Then, on he comes. And within seconds is winning the ball with a trade mark 'outside of the foot' tackle and there and then, set the tone for the 2nd half. His presence just lifted the whole team. Suddenly balls were being playing forward and sharply into feet, instead of square, and instead of sitting on the edge of our box we attacked them. Meireles looked a different player with SG on the pitch. He just brings, and demands belief.
The point I am trying to make is that taking away Gerrards brilliance, the 2nd half we attacked, we played in the right areas of the pitch, We had a winger on that actually stayed on the wing, thus creating much more space in the centre of the pitch, We got men in the box, Why did we not do this from the off? And I feel the answer to these questions is Roy.
Roy, as much as I want you to succeed, with the way you keep setting our side out, I just don't see it happening. You have proven game after game, that you just don't have the mind set to manage at a top club, where winning is the not a bonus, Its DEMANDED.
Ed, I also think its time you laid off Soto. He isn't the the worlds best defender, Granted, but at the moment he IS our best defender. That man will run through a brick wall to stick his napper on the ball. And its nice to see a player showing the desire that he does.
Tommy Walsh {ed's note - Robbie Savage would do the same but he is still crap.}

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05 Nov 2010 11:04:21
I know there is alot of mixed opinions regarding the current Liverpool squad and management and know that the Ed's here also have differing views but in my opinion the below players should be sold/ kept

Sold:
Poulson - I think that everyone agrees that this guy is awful and possibly one of the worst (if not the worst) buy we have made in a while.
Lucas - Reading through the below posts there is some very differing views on this chap but my view is that he has had more than enough time and oppurtunities to prove himself and with the exception of the odd performance here and there - he generally has come up short. I understand he is often player out of position which doesn't help, but I think he is too slow and too weak to be succesful in the Premiership.
Ngog - Sorry I just don't rate the kid - never have. Yes he has scored 7 goals this season but he looks to weak at times and gives the ball away to frequently

Kept:
Babel - Play him up front, give him a go.
Maxi - I still think he has something to offer.

Just my thoughts - why do you think ed? {ed's note - I would keep Lucas and Ngog, and definitely get rid of the lazy, arrogant, thinks-he-already-knows-all-he-needs-to Babel. Maxi I would sell, purely because he is on a high wage and he offers too little in the way of pace and penetration out wide and we don't need any more central midfielders.}

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05 Nov 2010 11:03:14
(by the way, what do you do think the chances DiMatteo taking over nxt season are?Young, ambitious, familiar with prem futbol, proponent of the aesthetic game, a nice humble fella amongst other things, that guy's got a massive future in the game).

I'm pretty sure he would not come, think Chelsea will be looking at him to become their manager at some point.

Last night's match showed we need to buy two wingers! 4-1-4-1 with 5 central midfielders (2 on the wings) is beyond a joke. . Although in the 2nd half it seemed to work.
Think Charles N'Zogbia will be targeted - as will Ashley Young - in January (unfortunantly.)

Also the papers going on about Llorente to replace Torres in January, what a load of tosh! I'm pretty sure John W Henry said we want to strengthen not weaken the team.

Also are John W Henry and his lovely wife Linda going to be at Anfield on Sunday?

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05 Nov 2010 11:01:34
Are fans going to change thoughts and feelings towards Roy if we beat the rent boys come Sunday? I for one will stay with same thoughts and feelings. If he was to be a hit and start winning , just how long before England came nockin on his door. He proved wen lfc job was being offered to him he wanted the bigger job as he says, we are not English we are scousers. He will jump ship so there for as I said in summer we don't want you simply cos your not good enough plus ur not a committed man to become an adopted Scouser. Nice man but not big enough to deal with our ambitions our players and our history

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05 Nov 2010 10:56:39
To all ppl who think Roy should stay because we won the last 3 games.

We derserved to win 1 game (against Blackburn) and derserved to draw the other 2. Roy plays players out of position (miereles, shelvy, carragher). We play more defensive then any other team in the league. (2dm vs napoli). He buy the worst players ever (poulson, konchesky) and we still play them after it's obv that's there rubbish. Do we play good football? No. Roys post match comments are just as bad as poulson. We're still not in the top half of table. If we play well against Chelsea with good football and create some chances (whatever the result) then i'd feel better. I'm hoping he goes before January.

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05 Nov 2010 10:53:22
Okay everyone, Here it is the next be thing coming to liverpool is Dimitri Payet! Some of you may not have heard of him yet. Oh but you will wing wiz with speed to boot.

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05 Nov 2010 10:47:21
Read on a few websites that we're linked with bentley for around 6 to 8 million. can't be a bad buy. maybe a straight swap for babel. its a risk but it could pay off as bentley has some potential. Thoughts ed?

True Red {ed's note - no thank you, one of the most overrated and bigheaded players of all time. He is a midtable player for a midtable team, like Fulham.....}

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05 Nov 2010 10:46:36
Just read am article on kopsource.com by Liam Tomkins - 'An Ode to Steven Gerrard'. Sums up pretty much what I thought and I am sure more than the vast majority of fans.

red deano YNWA

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05 Nov 2010 10:43:03
St.Etienne pair Blaise Matuidi and Dimitri Payet are Liverpool bound for a combined fee of 15 mil. Very reliable source.
- FG

ed appears readers agree with this post. Can you confirm anything regarding the players? Until this post I have not heard them, are they any good? Are they quality? are they right for the future of LFC?

red deano {ed's note - people agree because they play for the team we got Comolli from, it is an assumption rather than a belief. I have heard of both, both are very highly rated, but I have not seen much French football, in recent years, and I don't know what they are like. I stopped watching French footie after Houllier went as it didn't seem like we would be targeting any of their players any more.}

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05 Nov 2010 10:39:08
Yes the first half was poor but it was an unfamiliar team finding their way, the second half WAS not all about Stevie G, there were 10 others!

are you serious! ok it maybe me being blinded by my admiration for steven gerrard, but to me he was the difference last night. even before the goals, infact even before he officially came on. when the crowd saw him warm up the whole of anfield was buzzing. i mean i've still got a smile on my face after seeing him tell the italians to shh.
ed to your knowledge was pacheco injured for last nights game. because if he wasnt then i see know reason for Poulsen for even being in the stadium.
i know people will have a go at me for saying this but i have lost what little respect i had left for roy last night. for me spearing and shelvey should of been in the middle last night. and i thought jovanovic was probably our best player in the first half last night.

i know i've been going on abit but 1 last thing, im starting to think mavinga's comments about roy only playing young british players has some truth to it.

always a red {ed's note - Pacheco was NOT injured, amazing how Roy has claimed he wants to teach him how to be a winger, and that is why he has not been in the first team squad of late, yet he chose to play Shelvey there instead last night....}

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05 Nov 2010 10:38:19
Douglas costa Would be a fantastic buy Why not give it a go What you think ed ? {ed's note - not really seen a lot of him to be honest, I keep hearing about him but have only seen youtube clips, which I don't trust.}

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05 Nov 2010 10:38:03
Ed has turbaned changed cos rumour page has changed on my iPhone but still same on banter page ie won't fit on my iPhone properly? ? {ed's note - I am sorry mate, I really don't understand what you mean.}

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05 Nov 2010 10:34:02
{ed's note - I really don't understand his reluctance to give Pacheco a chance, there is no injury keeping him out, it is a conscious decision by Roy to leave him out.}


It was suprising to see the youngsters out there last night but pacheco not even on the bench. When Roy came he gave Pacheco a new squad number hinting, or so I thought, that he was going to feture a start to be given a break in to the team. I know one thing for sure, there will be allot of spanish teams rubbing there hands together for him this summer and if Roy (or any knew manager that dosen't play him) is still here in the summer then I think players that aren't getting a look in like Pacheco and Mavinga will look to move which will be a shame.

Bob Loblaw

PS. I know Shelvey didn't have a great game last night but you could see the potential in him and he is only young. I I have certainly See other young players like Ngog have far worst games and still be given a lot more chances. Thought eccleston (spelling) looked bright las night for the little bit he played.

Bob Loblaw

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05 Nov 2010 10:30:13
Just like to put my two team lin-ups forward for debate:

AWAY:

- - - - - - - - - -REINA- - - - - - - - -

KELLY- - SKRTEL- - - -AGGER- -KONCHESKY

- - -MEREILLES- GERRARD- SHELVEY- - -

- -MAXI- - - - - - - - - - - - - COLE- -

- - - - - - - - - TORRES- - - - - - - -

subs:Jones, Wilson, Spearing, Kuyt, Ngog, Carragher, Pacheco

HOME:

- - - - - - - - - -REINA- - - - - - - - -

KELLY- -SKRTEL- - - - -AGGER- KONCHESKY

- - - - - MEREILLES- -GERRARD- - - - - -

- - PACHECO- - - - - - - - - -COLE- - - -

- - - - - - -TORRES- - -ECCLESTON- - - -

subs:Jones, Wilson, Shelvey, Ngog, Spearing, Carragher, Maxi

What you reckon guys?
agree=believeable
disagree unbeliveable
what your thoughts ed? {ed's note - why do we need to play differently home and away? Surely players should be flexible enough to adapt to the situation and be able to perform in either place?}

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05 Nov 2010 10:28:42
We have to act quick if want to appoint a new manager. pellgrini is gone now and if we don't act fast rijkaard could be going to man city as things don't look too good for manchini

True Red

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05 Nov 2010 10:12:52
I think if Hodgson doesn't improve results the Dalglish will take over on deadline date of 1st December

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05 Nov 2010 10:10:51
Alright ed, lets face facts here, good result, poor performance. i feel that the new owners will provide good money t spend in jan but im not sure if roy is the rite man t spend it. he could well do 4 bently, wp and cole, who are all jokers. i would feel sick if any of them wear a red shirt. would much perfer one top class player. what u think ed?? {ed's note - I feel the same way, the only player I can see him targeting, that I wouldn't mind, would be Clint Dempsey. Hopefully he will either prove us wrong, or be gone by then, preferably the latter for me as his tactics and style of play are not what I want to watch each week.}

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05 Nov 2010 10:06:30
Just had a conversation with a friend of Pacheco. He is gone in January. Thats why Roy isn't playing him. He wants ENGLISH youth. . . Roy is a NOB. One day that lad will rise to the top. W* nker Roy will regret this.
Beaver Red

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05 Nov 2010 09:40:22
Just heard from friend in uk who is friends with a certain Scottish agent that that roys head is on the block n the club have agreed with a new manager who will me announced on Monday morning he said he didn't know who it was bit it will happen this is the same guy who told me robbie keane was signing for us while he was on hols in Ibiza he was spot on last time I hope he is this time also n by the way he's a gooner

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05 Nov 2010 09:31:54
What do we have to do to get Woy to go, please tell me?
I do not know one red who wants him in charge of our club and the thought of him spending money in January just fills me with dread, he's got us playing like Fulham and if he's given the chance he'll bring in the Fulham squad.
How can we get to talk to the owners and tell them Liverpool are BIGGER than Woy

And Poulsens sh$te

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05 Nov 2010 09:29:47
Come jan and c.cole, bentley, st ledger & taraabt will be joining the reds

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05 Nov 2010 08:33:24
I wasnt very excited wen woy bought konchesky but he seemd alrite last nite lets hope it continues

what do ya reckon ed ? {ed's note - he is a solid Premier League left back, never going to be top class but he will do a job until we get a top class one.}

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05 Nov 2010 08:31:05
Ed i think we desparetly need sum creativity, who do you think we cud buy, who wud come that wud give us this? {ed's note - we already have Pacheco, who is very creative, but Roy won't play him.}

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05 Nov 2010 08:30:10
Has pacheco bin caught shaggin woys wife or sumat what does this poor lad need to do to get a game?

hes one of our brightest young stars

is it that roy doent like him because hes not english or sumat?

i think he'll be off in summer an who can blame him, he'd be snapped up an come back to bite us in the arse

ed your thoughts ? {ed's note - it does seem like there is a serious problem between Pacheco and Roy, all the excuses in the world can't hide the fact that he should have started last night wide so that Shelvey could have played in the middle.}

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05 Nov 2010 08:26:50
Poulson has to go, he was at fault for that goal last nite he simply isn't cuttin the mustard, its not his fault hes not good enough its roys fault for buying him

ed do you think we should him an get another DM or jus intergrate a youngster? {ed's note - I would scrap the DM system, midfielders should be able to get forward and get back and not just play as auxiliary defenders.}

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05 Nov 2010 08:24:52
To the person who posted this. .
Inter Milan boss Rafa Benitez hoping to shore up midfield with move for Liverpool's Lucas

Lucas if u need a lift mate il drive you to inter lad, anyone else agree, ?

got to disagree mate i havent been lucas's biggest fan the last couple of seasons but this season he is better than most our midfield poulson is awful absolutely sh*t, meireles is inconsistant at best, spearing tries hard but not really got the quality.

so personally mate i think it would be a shame to lose him im not saying he should start every game but you have to remember he is only 22 as a squad player he will only improve.

after last night stevie G proves again he is the best in the world so no more pretend fans sayin sell him he is our heart and sole and worth 20x gareth bales

REDhunty

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05 Nov 2010 08:24:07
Watching the game last nite an was glad of the win but where has that gerrard bin all season? he needs to start performin like that all the time not jus when he thinks he should, he has such a positive effect on the team when he plays like that, it makes everybody raise there game

ed your thoughts? {ed's note - it was the first time he was sent out not having to think about defensive shape, he just went out and played and that is when he is at his best. No worrying about having to hold his runs because there are still 60mins left and he might get tired, like Rafa and his coaches used to instill in him. Gerrard was better before he was coached, he needs to play flat out, if that means we have to take him off after 75mins in every game then do that! I would rather have 45mins of the Gerrard we got yesterday, the real Gerrard, than 90mins of the Gerrard we had last season.}

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05 Nov 2010 07:57:07
This bloody Llorente story is really annoying me, it stared with liverpool to buy him for his release clause now its as a replacement for Torres, the papers can't go without saying one of liverpools players will leave!
But i doubt we will be able to afford 36M euros on one player but you never know cos we don't know how much NESV are really willing to invest in the squad because they may have realised liverpool need massive improvements and then invest lots.
But expect 3-4 signings likely to be 2 wingers a st and a CM, Matuidi(vlikely), Lopez/ Gomez/ , Nzogbia, Young sadly! but hopefully Defour, Hazard, Llorente, Lavezzi

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05 Nov 2010 07:20:13
To the "Hodgson must be given till end of the season" editor.
Mate, why, in your opinion, would firing Hodgson right now and replacing him with, say, Daglish (till May) would be to the detriment of the team. .this with respect to harmony in the squad, fan morale, tactics, performances and results?

Why, in light of the apparent player unrest and disillusionment and Hodgson's discernible cluelessness, is it still in Liverpool Football Club's best interests that he be kept, and supported?

I know, I know.These were not your exact words, but your (steadfast) stance on the issue suggests that you're opposed to the alternative of sacking Hodgson.You want the man kept.
So, shoot, mate.
(by the way, what do you do think the chances DiMatteo taking over nxt season are?Young, ambitious, familiar with prem futbol, proponent of the aesthetic game, a nice humble fella amongst other things, that guy's got a massive future in the game).

Keep The Faith
Silver Song {ed's note - different ed now mate, he is not around right now sorry. I am of the same mind as you, Roy needs to go before January, in my opinion. I very much doubt we wil get Di Matteo for a couple of years.}

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05 Nov 2010 03:29:57
buy cole from west ham and blaise matuidi

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05 Nov 2010 00:25:11
I cannot believe the negativity on here - I'm sorry but as much as I'm disappointed by Roy negativity at times, you lot should hang your head in shame for some of the comments here. Support the team for F's sake!

Some of you even talk about wanting us to lose! Yes the first half was poor but it was an unfamiliar team finding their way, the second half WAS not all about Stevie G, there were 10 others! The second penalty was earned by Johnstons attacking play, who was playing his first game in a few weeks and managed 90 minutes whilst the third goal was set up by Lucas' brilliant tackle.

Support the team and appreciate the benefits that a good run of results and confidence can bring. We are laying the foundations, I think Henry and Comolli have got the right ideas but its going to take time.

On a personal note I'd love us to sign Affelay, Wickham and Honda - talent and youthful promise. The other problem is there's only so many foreign players we can sign as we have one of the lowest levels of home grown players in the premiership so please stop listing all the big names you've watched on YouTube!

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