Liverpool Rumours Archive June 04 2020

 

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04 Jun 2020 21:03:41
Breaking on sky now about Werner to chelski klopp phone call wasn’t good enough this time!

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04 Jun 2020 21:26:53
Sadly, I think we are going to seriously regret not getting him.

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04 Jun 2020 21:28:03
Gutted. I think that would have reinforced dominance. Ready replacement for either of the front 3. Especially afcon and primed for Salah. mane leaving.

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05 Jun 2020 07:12:24
The next AFCON is scheduled for 9th January to 6th Feb 2021, so we will have a month without Mané and Salah. Failing to prepare is preparing to fail.

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05 Jun 2020 07:27:05
The AFCON is scheduled for pretty much the whole of January 21 and the first week of February 21, given that it’s unlikely that there’ll be any form of winter break we are going to be without our main outlet for goals for possibly 6 to 7 games, or which 4 or 5 will be league games, not bringing in a suitable reinforcement is going to harm our chances of retaining the premier league massively.

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05 Jun 2020 07:49:08
Jay Liverpool didn’t put in an offer and decided not to buy him leaving Chelsea the chance. His preference was us. We are looking at better value players due to financial climate. Enjoy us winning the title shortly. The summer is long so let’s see who comes in.

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05 Jun 2020 10:08:01
“Better value players”. I’d hardly call Ousmane Dembele better value.

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05 Jun 2020 11:21:03
Supa red klopp tapped him up as 02 stated! U tell me where there is better value in the market? Solanke ings Ibe 20m a pop and we don’t go in for one of the hottest prospects in football for 50m?

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05 Jun 2020 13:58:02
I didn't like it not coz of the player but Klopp has been tapping players nd leaving them for dry. that's really bad. werner got lucky that chelsea were interested in him. otherwise might have ended up like fekir 2.0.

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05 Jun 2020 14:09:50
4-5 league games is only 12-15 points max, still have 10 in the bag come the end of the season! come on lads, have some faith. remember who was missing in a certain semi final we had to win?

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04 Jun 2020 19:39:05
It is being reported that Chelsea have agreed a fee for Werner. That's disappointing for us.

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04 Jun 2020 20:16:58
Hopefully not true. But if it is then because we have dragged our heels thinking we will get him for 50pence on last day of his transfer clause.

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04 Jun 2020 20:25:58
I think that we’ve just got to trust the club and Klopp either way on this one.
To put things into perspective, there is / was a huge gulf between Liverpool and the rest this season so it’s about others having to catch up
But, equally, we’ve seen how one or two key signings can quickly change fortunes around.
We’ve (hopefully) got a title to win first too!

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04 Jun 2020 20:47:45
I don’t see ............

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{Ed002's Note - We are not going to get in to that.}

04 Jun 2020 20:57:09
he was never going to LFC. i'm glad this is over with.

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04 Jun 2020 21:09:21
I knew from the start that would happen, we probably wanted him when his contract run out for free, and him and his club want too move sooner . If we want too keep on top we have too get stronger other teams will catch us up .

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04 Jun 2020 21:11:01
Nailed it there Baz.

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04 Jun 2020 21:31:20
You can’t win them all, hopefully we go for someone like Brandt instead.

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04 Jun 2020 22:18:00
Brandt has hardly set the world alight at Dortmund.

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05 Jun 2020 01:10:25
Brandt is prospect that will never live up to it. Hasn't got the instinctive brilliance of Salah. Mane. He Needs it infont with ti. e
to think. And still misses.

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05 Jun 2020 08:23:09
I’m pretty sure most of us said the same about salah mane and even firmino before they signed.

I’ve only watched Dortmund a couple of times but for me he’s managed to stand out on both occasions.

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04 Jun 2020 19:31:18
To the Eds

Regarding Timo Werner and Liverpool transfer targets.

Of all the available players of that calibre who we have been linked with (Werner, Harvertz, Sancho, Dembele et al) surely Werner was the 'cheapest' of the lot? Is it a case of we dont't have the funds, Liverpool did not see the value at the price quoted or prioritizing a different position?

What does it mean for transfers this window? Will we only sign someone if one of Mane, Firmino and Salah 3 leave? I appreciate liverpool don't have the same resources as others, but i would expect them to look to improve the team and not stagnate on glory of recent success.

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{Ed002's Note - I have answered all of these questions on numerous occasions. Liverpool have not gone about trying to sign Werner in an appropriate manner - perhaps that is something they could still chase down as the player’s head has been turned. There is no interest from Liverpool in Sancho and I can’t see Liverpool being able to afford Havertz without significant sales. I have explained of the interest in Dembele who would be cheaper and perhaps some sort of loan to buy might work. I have explained the financial situation repeatedly.}

04 Jun 2020 19:45:38
Thanks for the quick reply Ed002!

Much appreciated.

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04 Jun 2020 21:01:22
Just had a quick look at dembele on transfermarkt, seems he was relatively injury free until his move to barca, since then his hamstrings have been pinging. If its a loan with an option I guess it could work as he certainly has talent but you would think Barcelona would want a sale or at least a guarentee of a sale at the end of a loan as he is coming into the last 2 years of his deal. I do think we need cover accross the front 3 and with money being an issue you would think he would be a good solution also he really needs to resurrect his career at some point, still only 23.

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{Ed002's Note - Barcelona would certainly prefer a sale - but they have a lot of players to move on so a loan may be possible.}

04 Jun 2020 21:02:46
I liked Werner for his ability to play striker or wide, but I guess salah can too, and mane, although mane is mor effective wide as he tracks well and beats men 1v1 consistently. Dembele plays right side, so if we were to add another forward player salah could play striker and bobby at 10. Salah wouldn’t drop deeper allowing the space for bobby.

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04 Jun 2020 21:12:19
Really can’t see the logic in going after a player like Dembele who is almost always injured and shown absolutely no capacity or will to be a professional, just because he might be cheap isn’t enough. He’ll be playing for a mid table french side in a few years time, his career is drifting into mediocrity and we shouldn’t look at a player like that.

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04 Jun 2020 21:15:35
Those type of hamstring injuries are the sort that finished Owen, it affects running ability and the ability to either sprint or run quickly over any distance, once the pace goes with a player like that you’ve got nothing left. Whoever buys him from Barcelona is getting a dud.

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04 Jun 2020 19:09:23
Hey Ed002, given it looks like our financial situation at this moment isn't too great and potentially meaning we can't afford the likes of werner right now, should we expect little to no signings this window? Thanks.

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{Ed002's Note - Liverpool can raise money through sales but are taking a couple of other financial hits which were unexpected and have payments due this month. There will be the final payment from Barcelona on Pipco, and there will be income from players who can be sold - and the likes of Wilson and Grujic will bring decent money. There is a credit line available from mortgaging the assets but it is not the intention to use it for buying players. And keep in mind that Liverpool have an excellent squad already and a couple of very good youngsters (such as Jones) who look to be ready for the first team squad. I have explained to folks not to expect too much, and that is still true. Obviously the coach and the scouting staff need to come up with a plan - certainly the plan to add a starting CB needs to be followed up. The other position is AM and a Shaqiri replacement. Then there is the versatile forward which needs thinking about.}

04 Jun 2020 19:34:14
Cheers edd, hopefully the club spends wisely and carefully.

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{Ed002's Note - Yep.}

04 Jun 2020 19:53:38
A starting centre half seems ridiculous gomez hasn't lost a PL game playing there and has a great partnership with van dike plenty of other issues in the squad.

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{Ed002's Note - I would agree but Klopp has been looking for a high-end starting centre back. Gomez is versatile and it is possible that the club could stick with what they have or find perhaps find a suitable like for like replacement for Lovren.}

04 Jun 2020 20:17:55
So if we did look at Carlos for example Ed as a starting centre back then surely he would cost same or more than Werner would? A versatile forward. A Shaq replacement and a AM, surely all will be out if reach without selling.

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{Ed002's Note - Diego Carlos has got to do with it. You seem to be getting strange ideas inside your head again.}

04 Jun 2020 21:19:48
Ed002.

I was thinking the same with regards to the squad and the likes of Jokes coming through. For me, keeping this squad in tact ( with a few tweaks ) is so important .

What are the financial hits if you don’t mind me asking?

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{Ed002's Note - £25M to be repaid from the TV money, regging the Pipco money which is a lot less than Liverool "banked"}

04 Jun 2020 23:14:11
Thanks Ed002.

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04 Jun 2020 22:41:28
You mentioned a starting CB that’s all Ed so I presumed Diego Carlos was one who Klopp wants.

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{Ed002's Note - Sure, he appears to be first choice. Perhaps Diego Llorente will be an option or maybe the finances will head toward Joe Gomez getting the starting role. All of this has been done to death.}

04 Jun 2020 23:19:53
Great thread here ed002.

We do have a great group of players. I would love the likes of Werner to join but in our current squad there isn’t much room for him.

Would be great to see jones come through and if a shrewd deal for dembele could happen I think he would be more effective than Shaqiri. Who knows maybe dembele would grow into a great player at lfc.

All hypothetical at the moment but as fans we need to understand there’s not major improvements in the squad currently.

Personally still think midfield is biggest issue next few years quite a few In there late 20s / early 30s.

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{Ed002's Note - Don't lose track of Liverpool being in a good place already, There will be a tweek or two.}

04 Jun 2020 18:15:33
Looks like Werner is close to joining Chelsea according to multiple Places. Advance talks. Gutted tbh.

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{Ed002's Note - What does the Fat Kid From Bolton say on the matter.}

04 Jun 2020 19:00:37
Don’t no Ed tbh don’t listen to his crap. Sounds like Werner has accepted the offer now so quite far down the line I would think. You did say all along Chelsea had approached RBL and we had not. You also explained about our finance issues. You’ve been spot on As usual mate through Out this Werner saga, I can’t fault you.

Hope we have a back up in mind.

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04 Jun 2020 19:06:31
Maybe Rashica?
Need a wide player desperately considering all our backup options prefer playing through the middle.

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04 Jun 2020 19:44:57
Gutted about werner, although maybe this will push us into making an offer. Ours if we want him.

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04 Jun 2020 21:05:12
I imagine if he had any decency, the fat kid from Bolton has shut his twitter page down.

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04 Jun 2020 21:06:42
The back appears to have been the French Balotelli.

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04 Jun 2020 21:08:00
We missed out on Brandt a couple years ago now over demands for assured playing time and our backup signing ended up being some Egyptian lad named Mo Salah. Hopefully Klopp can show his quality in signing the right players again.

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04 Jun 2020 18:15:04
Everyone reporting Werner off to Chelsea now, no one saw that coming did they? .

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04 Jun 2020 18:46:37
Considering he was being linked to Chelsea as well as others it's not that surprising really. Good luck to him.

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04 Jun 2020 20:22:41
Actually we did see it coming. Little thing called the virus, no revenues and rebates to broadcasters.

Let other clubs get deeper into debt. We don't need to.

Jones and Elliott will be like new signings for us.

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{Ed002's Note - Why start making nonsense posts like this?}

04 Jun 2020 18:12:30
So sky have just announced that Chelsea are now favourites to sign Werners
Ed's can you shed any light on this.

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{Ed002's Note - Other sides have an interest in Werner as I have explained. Liverpool have not contacted RBL or made an offer but have disrupted there player through a series of illegal approaches. RBL have spoken with other sides including Inter Milan and Chelsea but have maintained the stance that the player has had his head turned. If an acceptable offer has been made by Chelsea then they will have permission to talk with the player. It is then down to the player to decide if he wants to make the move - and remember he has previously expressed a desire to join Bayern Munich, Manchester United and Liverpool. If Liverpool do wish to buy the player, and they should do the principled thing, then they need to make an acceptable offer for the player - but as I have explained money may well be an issue to Liverpool. So the ball is in the court of the player and Liverpool. But there remains some way to go.}

04 Jun 2020 18:26:35
Thanks Ed.

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04 Jun 2020 19:50:55
Might be wishing but could this be a ploy by his agent to force liverpool to the table ed? As we know he wants to play for klopp.

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{Ed002's Note - Chelsea has spoken with RBL, Liverpool has not. Maybe some sort of smokescreen for Mbappe?}

04 Jun 2020 20:28:50
Ha ha. Bad move if we lose out to Chelsea, will come back to bite us.

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04 Jun 2020 21:14:31
This is going to come back and bite us next season and in future seasons.

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04 Jun 2020 18:02:48
Everton vs liverpool 21st june at 7.00pm.

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{Ed002's Note - You will find out the venue next week.}

04 Jun 2020 18:08:12
Sunday evening at 7? Interesting time to play it.

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04 Jun 2020 19:41:09
Is it definitely neutral Ed's?

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{Ed002's Note - No, you will find out during the next week.}

04 Jun 2020 17:29:08
Timo Werner has apparently agreed to join Liverpool today with an announcement shortly to follow with some agent fees left to agree. Personal terms are sorted.

Source is to be questioned for sure it derives from Kuwait and people involved in the sponsorship elements of the deal with both player and club.

Take it or leave it just sharing what im told.

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04 Jun 2020 17:59:08
Seems to be rumours from Bild, that he is off to Chelsea.

If they have managed to get him fair play, we clearly spoke to him then didn't want to stump up the cash. although I'd imagine the the virus situation is effecting what we could afford.

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04 Jun 2020 18:15:23
Sky are reporting he is off to Chelsea so we can put this to bed.

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04 Jun 2020 18:21:11
Sky Germany reporting Chelsea are favourites to sign him.

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04 Jun 2020 21:01:31
I heard he’s off to Chelsea. We’ve ballsed this up good and proper scrabbling around after a waster like Dembele.

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04 Jun 2020 21:02:02
Looks like chelski bound if true u snooze u loose cracking player good luck to him.

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04 Jun 2020 15:09:24
Hi All,

Great site, been reading for ages but never posted.

My mate (Chelsea fan) says his friend is "in" with some people at Liverpool, he says.

1. Werner deal has been agreed.
2. Mane is off to Real Madrid.

From what I have read here, I tried to play it down but his convinced and said it's from a "Top Source"

Personally would hate to see any of the front 3 go and VERY much hope that if Werner arrives it will be as part of a rotation plan.

Anyway, guess we will see 😊.

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04 Jun 2020 15:42:03
I think your mate is teasing you, pal

Red Sandman.

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04 Jun 2020 16:53:05
Rumours have been going around for months that any incoming forward player would be to replace one of Mane/ Firmino/ Salah.

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04 Jun 2020 16:56:30
No chance any of our front 3 leave this window. In a years time mane or Salah will likely leave but certainly not this summer. Werner I am very hopeful will sign.

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04 Jun 2020 16:58:45
Would hate out of any of the front three that it would be mane that would leave. Great player and great guy too.

Though it would be ideal if Werner joined and we managed to find a way to play all 4 I just don't see it, so expect one of mane or salah to end up leaving if not this season then next.

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04 Jun 2020 17:32:59
I reckon you could accommodate Salah, Mane, Werner and Firmino as Firmino can move into midfield, he started out as a midfielder so it’s not alien to him.

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04 Jun 2020 18:09:41
Your mate the Chelsea fan that doesn't know Werner is joining them? Interesting.

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04 Jun 2020 21:07:49
I’m taking it from this that there won’t be any permanent transfers in this summer, only outgoings. Which is going to make next season harder when our rivals will have strengthened, as you can guarantee that Chelsea, United and City will spend big.

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04 Jun 2020 21:11:18
Isnt it just Irishman. It might have been his friends, mothers, cousins cat that got the info from climbing around the wall at melwood.

Or Maybe it could have been due to the wernercraft coming up the mersey belting out the anfield rap.

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04 Jun 2020 13:06:19
Ed002 is the talk of a swap deal involving Lovren plus cash for Zaniolo of Roma got any legs? Or the usual nonsense.

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{Ed002's Note - Nicolo Zaniolo (AM) It is thought that Juventus could offer Bernardeschi plus cash to Roma, but it is really cash Roma need and NZ remains sidelined with a very serious ACL knee injury although he hopes to be fit for the start of next season - Roma are not looking to sell and have others they would like to sell first. Their problems stem from a bad year from Monchi leading to wasting money they could not recover, and an owner who now won't put money in as he is looking to sell, and buyers, in the Friedkin Group, who are looking for a bargain. Prior interest of Barcelona, Bayern, Milan, Manchester City, Newcastle and a very good offer from Chelsea with the efforts of Mino have been rejected to stay at Roma or at least in Italy. He would be an ideal replacement for Shaqiri at Liverpool but would he get the game time and how big a risk would it be as he is still recovering from his ACL injury?

Roma are interested in Devan Lovren (CB) as a Plan B to Smalling.}

04 Jun 2020 14:13:36
Cheers Ed . and thanks for the in depth reply. like you said tho it would be a massive gamble after such an injury.

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04 Jun 2020 00:18:55
Hi Ed's, hope you're well and your familiars safe during these times. I've heard that Liverpool have approached Kai Havertz agent for a second time and the only concern Havertz has is his role in the team as the front three are staying put this summer. Surely this can't be true as Liverpool don't have £100 million to spend right now. I know there's no chance of it happening but thought I would pass it on as this is a rumour site after all 👍🏻

Cheers

Red GT.

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{Ed002's Note - Someone is teasing you on Twitter again.}

04 Jun 2020 06:47:38
Not quite sure how I’ve been teased when I clearly didn’t fall for it but thank you all the same 👍🏻.

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