Liverpool Rumours Archive July 29 2020

 

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29 Jul 2020 19:09:14
Ed’s,

Can we not beat around the bush. The likes Chelsea signing these potential world class players and now city closing in on Torres which in my eyes looks a great prospect, what do you really see Liverpool doing? We do need a striker and a CB, I’m not trying to waste your time but your the one with knowledge, what do you guys expect?

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{Ed002's Note - Manchester City and Chelsea are in a very different place to Liverpool financially. If Liverpool want to add a striker then they should make use of Brewster.}

29 Jul 2020 20:25:03
Its nice to have a bench that looks scary on paper. that's what city and Chelsea will have and fair play its lovely options to have but let's not forget which team ran away with the league with just under a quarter of the season left. Remember that same team that ran away with it had so many narrow wins where we squandered chances. We don't really need to buy and we can't. We didn't buy much last year and tore the league up.

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29 Jul 2020 21:21:15
Yes we ran away with the league this season but we walked away from the fa and carling cup. We were also stuffed in the cl and because we did not have a squad deep enough in quality. If your a team that's happy winning o e trophy a season that's great but you cannot put all your eggs in one or two baskets. The squad needs more first team quality and a good manager deals with expectations of players.

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29 Jul 2020 21:34:53
It’s best not to worry too much about what other teams are doing. So Citeh will continue to buy and they will likely be a lot closer next year. Chelsea appear to be doing some tidy business, even though it’s there defence that needs an overhaul. Man U will no doubt spaff a fortune on who knows who, but they will still have the most unconvincing manager around. I honestly think we have got a bit of a winning formula right now, right through the club and I’d rather have that then a shed load of dosh to spend, which won’t guarantee success (we should now that all too well) . Only time will tell, but right now just keep on enjoying where we are right now, Champions!

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29 Jul 2020 22:03:02
One trophy a year would be absolutely fine if its the league. The integrity in football is so slim anyway, winning a 38 game season is so the most satisfiying for me and a most convincing reflection of true footballing ability. We have already had 2 CL finals in a row without a shred of referee bias helping and some magical memorable ties to treasure, we really have been spoiled so far under Klopp. Would love to see hendo lift that fa cup as well though.

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29 Jul 2020 22:17:58
Rarely post on here, but love to read. However, the number of posts on here about how we are falling behind the pack is simply absurd. At the worst, the very worst, we'll finish 2nd by a handful of points. Most likely, we'll win the league again by a much smaller margin. Teams around us are spending money to catch up, City are in a particularly odd situation with silva retiring, Aguero ageing and concerns around the fitness of Laporte and mendy. if Laporte had been fit all season it would have been far closer. So City have to spend. Chelsea have done amazingly well under lampard, but likewise, ageing squad, some key players potentially moving on, they have to spend. Utd, won't spend as much as people think, they've moved on a lot this season, although where Fernandes can maintain that form remains to be seen. however, he's a talent. Spurs will spend a net total of 2 quid but do better than last year, because how can they not. It's not we are falling behind, it's that they are catching up. We all complain about not using youngsters, yet, when we have an excellent first 11 ( maybe even 15) people want to spend money on players that won't necessarily start. Breathe out dudes, we are ok! YNWA.

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29 Jul 2020 22:21:30
Brewster scored a good poachers goal tonight against Brentford. But we do not play like that, and like Ings some other team will get the full benefit out of him. He is not a Firmino type player. Shoot me down as much as you like but. Jiminez is as good as Firmino.

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29 Jul 2020 23:26:35
Sorry mate but how the f**** can you say Jiminez is better then Firmino! They are totally different players? Ones an out and out striker the other is CF with every capabilities! (Other then scoring) Firmino means more our team they anyone! Frankly we wouldn’t of won the league without him.

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30 Jul 2020 06:02:03
He said as good as, however I don't think you can compare them at all.

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30 Jul 2020 06:46:10
Liverpool 12350 bang on, you cannot compare Jimenez and Firmino, totally different players both are excellent.
As for Brewster being more of a poacher, and not suited to our/ Klopps style, that is ridiculous. The boy is a poacher, has scored worldwide free kicks, believe he has nodded a couple home in his short time at Swansea, he has scored 11 goals since his move, an excellent return and shows he is quick to adapt.
I’m told he wants another season at Swansea to build his fitness and to maintain regular playing time, I and for one think that is the right thing to do. This boy is going to be big time, and god knows we need a predatory striker type, haven’t had one since Torres.

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30 Jul 2020 07:04:54
Wish people would stop asking same question! Think I've read Liverpool has no money 2567 times in past few weeks! Ed002 isn't going to suddenly change his response! We're obviously trying moving on players to get some money in. And reduce the wage bill. Lallana, Clyne and Lovren have gone so far. So that's a good start. Hopefully once a few more leave. We will then be able to add a few. But Havertz, Sancho etc are out of the question!

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30 Jul 2020 08:06:39
It will cost us not buying players next season! You can start to see the squad needs a little refresher. For me a CB is a must.

I can't get my head around the fact we have no money. You will see the likes of west ham blow 70m on 3 crap players but we can't seem to afford an akinfenwa.

Minamino is all we bought last year and that was for peanuts. our net spend over the last 5 years isn't as high as youd imagine. On the back of 3 successful years and a new kit sponsor.

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30 Jul 2020 08:08:09
Liverpool will make some additions this summer, they will be well thought out and planned and hopefully add to our squad or first team. The teams below us have a lot of ground to make up but more importantly do you think Arteta, Lampard and Ole have the managerial capacity to raise their teams?

Pep and Jose are a different category of manager who have shown that yes given money they can make players they buy better players. What evidence have we seen from Ole, Arteta and Lampard in this regard, like someone said worst case scenario is being second.

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30 Jul 2020 10:51:58
Brewster had a 1 in 2 goal return while at Swansea if you ask me that’s pretty impressive way more impressive than Harry Kane’s return while he was away on loan at a similar age (I know they are different types of striker) so I think he deserves a chance getting the goals he got in the championship is no mean feat l. I say he deserves a chance as does Jones and Williams I’m sure a couple of fringe players will leave and if we can get a top CB then I don’t think there will be anyone who can touch us again next season imagine if Trent had not been given a chance, I would love a player like Havertz but what’s to say we don’t already have a world class player in our ranks waiting for his chance. If we can’t spend money then so be it at the end of the day we have class all over the pitch and some really exciting youngsters ready to snap up any chances they get.

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30 Jul 2020 14:07:54
I've only seen highlights of Swansea, but even in those it looks like Brewster has more to his game than just goal poaching. Aside from his 30 yard screamer a couple of weeks back, he seems to alternate dropping in the no. 10 position with Ayew quite a bit during their build up. I reckon he has much more scope for adapting to the Firmino role than Origi.

If Swansea had gone up, the easy choice would've been to loan him there for another season for regular football, and in the Premier League this time too. But with that not happening, the decision's a little more complicated.

Ideally I'd like to keep him here because I think he has enough quality to benefit us from next season, but will he play enough? He'll need more than the League Cup and 20 minute sub apps in the league. Plus he'll be competing with Minamino for rotation and sub duty. I don't want to loan him back to the Championship though, I'd like to see what he can do in the PL. But will another PL team take him and use him?

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30 Jul 2020 18:14:46
I love the fact someone is ready to bin off Brewster.

Got some rubbish fans us.

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31 Jul 2020 04:48:56
City are replacing Kompany and David Silva, two of the best EPL players ever, with Nathan Ake and Ferran Torres.

Not sure there is any need to start quaking in the boots.

Just because you are spending money doesn't mean you are improving anything.

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29 Jul 2020 17:07:42
Afternoon Ed's, hope you're all well?! I know this has been addressed previously however all these rumours and paper talk posts have made me want to ask you if you could please do a quick summary on who, to your knowledge, we actually still hold and interest in this summer and whereabouts we are with any deals if there's anything currently in the pipeline. Any info is greatly appreciated!

Looking forward to your reply, keep up the good work!

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{Ed002's Note - Post COVID-19 priorities should be for a CB to replace Lovren and an AM to replace Shaqiri. There is then an argument whether or Lewis is trusted as a send choice CB if Larouci leaves, knowing there is also cover from elsewhere. Additionally Klopp seems to want Thiago (DM/CM) but Liverpool has not spoken with his club and it would really hit what little available transfer funds there are.
Diego Carlos (CB) First choice - it was viable for Liverpool to negotiate the price down and include Xherdan Shaqiri in the deal but that option has now gone. Diego Llorente (CB) may provide a slightly option and was certainly looked at. Ozan Kabak (CB) has been mentioned recently but again there has been no approach. Ben White (CB) has a significant benefit in being HG but is very expensive and money is very short.
Julian Brandt (AM/CM/LW) has gone as a wildcard option and a versatile Shaqiri replacement. It has been suggested that Harvey Barnes (LM/RM) might prove a suitable replacement but I am not aware of any approach for him.
A couple of the youngsters appear to be ready to step up.}

29 Jul 2020 17:58:01
Brilliant, let’s see what happens then! Hopefully one or two coming in? Thanks for the reply.

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29 Jul 2020 18:26:39
Sorry are you saying they are looking at Lewis for CB? Or whether he is ready for back up LB?

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{Ed002's Note - Lewis is a LB.}

29 Jul 2020 19:03:31
Ed002 - Ferran Torres was mentioned a while back and looks on his way to City. I think at the time he was priced a lot higher than what is rumoured to be the figure to City, similar to those figures banded about for Thiago. Obviously he would give backup to the wide areas as Shaqiri did as well as being young. Did we look to him at all or no interest at all.

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{Ed002's Note - No.}

29 Jul 2020 19:11:23
The whole no money thing is part ploy, surely? The players who really want to join, like Thiago (allegedly) will point to the fact that there is only one club that they wish to join, and Edwards will play hardball, thus meaning the price gets reduced.

I Like the look of the Turkish CB, he looks raw and is apparently multi positional. Carlos would of course bring immediate quality to the side and make us one of the best defences on the planet, but if he is in high demand, then Seville don't need to reduce the price .

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{Ed002's Note - Liverpool have a serious financial problem and that is not some sort of ploy at all.}

29 Jul 2020 20:24:26
We need to clear some debts again now as the Edds have mentioned before. Unfortunately for us, this close of season we will have to shop at happy shopper and not waitrose.

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29 Jul 2020 20:40:18
Is your knowledge of our finances from people at the club, or from available accounts that anyone can see.

Dont doubt you know what your saying. Pointless me looking at accounts.

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29 Jul 2020 21:59:57
I’m not sure it’s all that severe. I do understand accounts and they are extremely strong. Next to no debt, lots of assets with a new facility setup where we can release funds against the assets of the club. BUT as with all businesses cash is king and it’s that we have a problem with at the minute. As I understand it there are some big player payments due and an existing loan is due to be repaid. Also, from something Ed said a while back, we may have been a little hasty in recognising revenue on something not earned yet and may not be now (coutinho fee maybe on the add ones? Am guessing butbwould of been daft if we did)

So we are going into a year with less revenue from stadiums being partially or fully closed to fans, a potential write off to make and no cash Without increasing debt.

We could always borrow money against that facility setup and buy Mbappe for £300m but that’s not how fsg roll and we certainly don’t want to go back where Hicks and Gillette left us. They are doing the right thing for the future of the club and I totally back them on it. Let things settle down and stick to a tight budget and flog a few to fund strengthening the squad In key areas (Lost on Thiago though as we don’t need cover there, but I trust klopp)

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30 Jul 2020 09:56:09
Sorry Ed I know He is a LB but was referring to your original reply

“ There is then an argument whether or Lewis is trusted as a send choice CB” I assumed you meant LB.

Is the idea of him going out on loan to Blackpool being halted until larouci has left?

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{Ed002's Note - Yes it should have been LB. Liverpool need to make a decision as to whether they trust him or not.}

30 Jul 2020 10:04:22
Ed, you mentioned that the Shaqiri option is now gone, is that to do with Seville dropping their interest in the player or is he potentially moving elsewhere?

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{Ed002's Note - Sevilla purchased an alternative.}

29 Jul 2020 11:57:38
Why did Liverpool not sign Harvetz? Was it lack of money? Or were they even interested in him?

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{Ed002's Note - No money and not a player Liverpool looked to tap up.}

29 Jul 2020 13:40:13
Nice little jab there Ed, you’re quite partial to those. I’m pretty happy with the championship winning midfielders we have right now, so I guess we’ll have to look at tapping up a center back that Klopp so desperately wants?

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{Ed002's Note - The statement is correct.}

29 Jul 2020 16:56:27
Everyone Liverpool look at were tapping them up. I now we’ve done it in the past but surely it’s not every transfer we’re looking into Ed . that would be worrying.

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{Ed002's Note - Liverpool did not speak with RBL about Werner. Liverpool have not spoken with Bayern Munich about Thiago.}

30 Jul 2020 07:03:30
It seems apparently every player Liverpool are genuinely interested in signing is being tapped up by the club according to some people.

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31 Jul 2020 10:55:53
For me I’d like to see williams play more at rb and taa in cm I’d like to see jones get more playing time too. I feel like gomez and VVD have a great partnership and would like to see sepp or hoever more involved in first team games. The biggest concern for me as a fan is our chance conversion rate. Also the lack of options outside the front 3 . Our first team is excellent I hope to see Naby play more and get more goals next season. Pressure of 30 years no league is gone I hope they can push on and play with some more freedom. LB and cf the positions I’d like cover for maybe try playing Minamino a bit more too.

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29 Jul 2020 11:06:55
Bayern Munich have apparently dropped the fee required to sign Thiago by £10million. That puts the estimated fee for him at around £28million which now leaves a £5million gap between his asking price and what Liverpool are willing to spend on him, if you are to believe the various reports on all of this that is.
Also seen rumours this morning that Gini Wijnaldum, Sadio Mane and Caoimhín Kelleher (Kelleher is also linked with a loan move to Blackburn rovers for next season should be good experience for him if it happens. ) are going to sign new contracts fairly soon.

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29 Jul 2020 11:19:38
I love Thiago he’s a fantastic player but he’s similar to Gini it’s odd that as Gini signs a new deal we grt a player to replace him the one area we have too many players is midfield surely the funds would be better spent on a CB if the above players are signing new deals. Thanks for the info tho man.

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29 Jul 2020 11:50:22
Gini Wijnaldum is a box to box kind of midfielder whereas Thiago is more of a deep lying playmaker, very different players imho. Pep Lijnders recently spoke about the need to evolve the style of play and the way we create chances, I believe the Thiago links are a result of seeking a different way of playing especially against teams that will sit deep and double up against the fullbacks.

As for the money side of things, policy is still sell to buy and with Shaqiri, Awoniyi, Origi, Grujic, Wilson, Karius, Ejaria, Larouci, Kane all available for sale with players like Lovren and Lallana gone already and the belief that young players can fill any extra gaps in the squad, this is a deal that they can do for a player and a price which was unthinkable this time last year. As for a CB I can't see Liverpool spending massively on a 3rd/ 4th choice CB, certainly not more than £30million.

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29 Jul 2020 12:02:08
Sorry Ed to ask this again but did you actually confirm that we are looking to bring Thiago in this window or not? I no you said we’ve not approached Bayern but just wondered if this is all fact or fiction?

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{Ed002's Note - Certainly there have been discussions with a representative of the player and Bayern Munich believe the player himself. Whilst Klopp is certainly keen there are concerns from at least two people in the club that his age, injury issues and lack of a sell on value mean that the club should step back. His huge wages may also cause concern amongst the players with perhaps Fabinho thinking he will be the one replaced. Liverpool have not approached his club.}

29 Jul 2020 12:48:23
Really am getting sick of the talking to reps and players. Obviously talking to player is flat out against the rules without the permission of the selling club but on top of that why talk to the player if everyone at the club haven’t made the decision to purchase him. Just stupid, don’t get it.

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29 Jul 2020 12:49:35
With all that said Ed002 he certainly is a strange transfer target.

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29 Jul 2020 12:51:52
Ok thank you Ed for clearing that up very much appreciated. I hope we haven’t spoke to the player before the club again then. How do you see this one panning out.

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{Ed002's Note - I really don’t know.}

29 Jul 2020 15:03:02
Thiago is nothing like Gini, Thiago has a great eye for a pass, Gini doesn't, he is a work horse with the very odd goal or assist chucked in, Thiago is exactly what we need but as we know someone will have to go before we buy as the owners don't like sending money over the sea, IMO.

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29 Jul 2020 19:59:09
Huge wages? Don’t get me wrong it’s big as I read it’s around £110k per week he’s on at Bayern but bloody Lovren and lallana were on that.

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29 Jul 2020 20:37:23
That comment about gini shows you have little to no understanding of the role he plays for Liverpool and you should really go and watch him play more often to gain a better and more correct opinion of gini.

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30 Jul 2020 07:02:00
He will replace Milner, who is off to Leeds, regardless of contract.

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