Liverpool Rumours Archive July 28 2013
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28 Jul 2013 21:20:37
The Express now reporting on us showing an interest in Muriel. Not sure how reliable they are but i'd put them above most papers apart from Guardian and Echo.
Eds do you know if we are looking to make a bid for him?
Seems promising player, I'm aware you have said that there could be work permit issues, but surely he'd be exception ruling like Coutinho was.
Jonesred {Ed001's Note - more of an issue is Udinese's refusal to sell for anything less than more than a player is worth, plus I seem to remember him being one of those players with multiple ownership. This story of interest is old news, the interest is long standing.}
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Perfect Replacement for Suarez IMO (and probably a RW with the rest of the Suarez money). I think if we do sell skrtel and/or coates, we should go for papa/alderweireld and a young CB (eg. Ilori) as their replacements. A LB (Cissokho?) as cover for Enrique and maybe a CDM/CM as cover and I think that would be OK for the window and probably the season unless there were some injuries or some falling outs.
What would be your perfect (and realistic) summer for you ed's and reds?
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28 Jul 2013 18:41:02
Hi eds, is there any teams currently looking at Glen Johnson? Think he might be one we try to move on if right offer comes in as we have RB covered and he is on very high wages.
LFC82 {Ed001's Note - not that I know of.}
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He's top class at his peak {Ed030's Note - He's really not. }
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I don't think he's as bad as some of the ed's make him out to be but I do think we can get better at lower wages.
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29 Jul 2013 01:33:56
I don't know why people slag him off, and i'm talking bout a lot of people.iv always rated him.he's a good defender, going forward he usually excels, always getting balls in and cutting in for a shot.i really don't see the problem.
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He is a liability simply can not defend.
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Much better than Enrique has been!
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It's laughable that Johnson gets stick all the time. Sorry but like it or not, he is one of our better players. Be careful what you wish for, once he's gone he will be missed.
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29 Jul 2013 12:44:14
Enrique is best Lb in league for defending and holding onto ball, Johnson has lost his best years . I like him as a player but he just not cutting it at the mo!
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Enrique is best lb in the league? Seriously?
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That comment about Enrique is a bit much? As for Johnson, I think he'll be kept on until McLaughlin is ready. Hopefully that won't be too long! The other right backs you talk about (I assume you mean Kelly and wisdom) both seem destined for centre back!
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If its about football, Glen's clearly the best we have at Liverpool for his position regardless of what some people may think. Rafa thought he was, Roy thought he was, Kenny thought he was and Rogers thinks he is.
I don't understand the stick he gets if its about football.
I do understand though that as people, we see through different types of eyes, conscience wise!
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Wtf?!
One of our best players!
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Think moving him to a midfield role would be a good option as at (a lot of) times at full back he is a liability.
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28 Jul 2013 21:41:25
Strong rumours surfacing that spurs have agreed a fee for soldado.
I don't think he's what we need anyway. I'd prefer someone to play WITH sturridge not instead of him.
Bernard would be a much better fit IMO but if we did want a proper striker then I think Rodrigo would be the best option. Very similar to Sturridge; fast, skillful, good movement, good finisher.
Anyway just my opinion.
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Sturridge, Aspas, Borini will do
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29 Jul 2013 00:01:24
Anyone who thinks the above 3 'will do' either is a happy non Liverpool fan or is happy for us to aim for europa league football.
Soldado is probably the best replacement we can get for Suarez. Did Sturridge and Suarez not play excellently TOGETHER last season? Soldado is as good as Negredo and would be an excellent signing but it doesn't look like we will get him. His goal scoring record is very good!
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I think we would need someone like Muriel and a (right) winger would be good enough replacements to replace Suarez (hopefully).
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29 Jul 2013 05:32:17
Soldado wouldn't be a good replacement for Suarez at all, simply because he wouldn't fill Suarez role in the team. He would fill sturridges, and that is a role which isalready adequately. filled. I'm of the opinion that, with how flexible each and every player we have up there is, and how good sterling and ibe are, that we can survive pretty well if needs must, with what we have now. If any of those positions were to be strengthened, I believe left wing should be the priority. Not sure who though.
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RedSingh
Have you ever actually watched soldado play? He is not a suarez replacement at all. He's a very good poacher who will get goals but he's not the type of play who can play with sturridge the way suarez did, if anything I would say that soldado would be a more efficient borini
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and if you look at the goal scoring records of the two players for valencia and Liverpool respectively they are very similar, who else do you think we should try and replace Suarez with?
You can't buy an exact like or like replacement that isn't going to happen. Unless you think we have a chance of Aguero.
Would Soldado improve us and do we need a replacement player if Suarez leaves, answer to both is yes.
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30 Jul 2013 00:35:37
More efficient Borini? But Borini isn't going anywhere, you really took the world replacement literally when it is pretty obvious what is meant
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28 Jul 2013 19:35:54
Tried the search function, and couldn't see anything.
Any interest in freddy guarin? Any idea on what sort of fee he would cost?
Thanks!
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He and Coutinho fought for the place at Inter, Guarin won. There's not a chance they're selling.
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28 Jul 2013 19:09:12
said it time and time again I am not in the NO but heard we are in for muriel from udinese, I will not go into detail as I no nothing about this lad I no his a young winger with a half decent scoring record last season.
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It wasn't in one of the papers by any chance. If so about half a million people probably heard the same thing.
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It's know kidder.
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28 Jul 2013 22:50:26
Kinda right the story came from twitter and was picked up by Barclays Premier league news and the daily star, someone called Rory smith had a twitter post twisted into a rumour he had to put another post up saying they looked at him ages ago and never said he would replace Suarez, think he works for the times the eds might know
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28 Jul 2013 18:46:09
napoli considering a 35 million bid for luis .
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It's not the lowest unique bid wins you know!
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So we've already turned down £40 million from Arsenal and Napoli think we'd be interested at £5 million less than that?
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What's the point in that if the valuation is £50+ and arsenal got the knock back at £40 mill
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Luis Alberto is NOT for sale, even at that price!
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Make it 45m rafa
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We rejected 40 haha
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Let me save them the time of 'considering' . 35m is too low.
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Then they're wasting they're time
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Why not. We refused 40m from the gunners so it goes without saying we will accept 35m!.
Please think before sending these types of post.
MJ
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29 Jul 2013 03:22:59
To be fair - the OP did say 'considering' - perhaps it is a slow day in Naples?
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To be fair, we've rejected a £40m bid from a rival. Arsenal will have to pay a premium to get Suarez so therefore it's possible that Suarez could eventually be sold to another club for less that whatever Arsenal's final offer is.
Napoli could well be testing the water to see what Liverpool may accept from a non-premier league team.
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Finally, a sensible reply. There is a distinct possibility we will accept less from a foreign team in order to avoid having to sell to a domestic rival.
No team offers their highest bid initially. It will probably be a 'water tester' to gauge the response and see how much less we would be prepared to accept from a foreign club in order to avoid selling to a Premier League team.
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Some of you need to use your nouse instead of just jumping on the bandwagon imo.
Lfc would probably take a lesser bid from abroad if it meant we don't sell to strengthen our rivals.
He won't be sold for less than 50m imo, but Lpool will look to offload him abroad.
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28 Jul 2013 18:41:27
Supposedly, LFC, have put in a �14m for Papadopoulos. Even though BR has said that he wasnt looking for a new CB, after getting Toure.
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28 Jul 2013 18:38:12
Assaidi is off to Anderlect, medical arranged for Monday. Not sure yet if loan or sold. Good luck to him. Never really got a chance but ultimately Rodgers obviously thought not up to standard.
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But rodgers signed him? looks bit stupid to me!
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Was brought in when we were desperate for attackers and BR had no idea how good Sterling and Suso would turn out to be. It was a very sensible bit of business at the time.
-Nibbits
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28 Jul 2013 17:30:00
Rafa mystery solved, the 'Rafa' people where talking about is 18 year old Rafael Paez or Rafa for short, he is on trial from Real Madrid and is a strongly built centre back at 6 ft 3 and is very good on the ball.
Lil Red
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Thanks, mystery solved.
Did he play last night, it just had 'trialist' on the squad sheet
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Yes if I recall correctly, he did play against Hearts.
Lil Red.
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28 Jul 2013 16:55:05
dont no why the 1st post didn't get through!arsenal are going to bid 45m for suarez and won't go no higher, not claiming to be in the know its what I've been told.dont no if the person whos told me knows for sure but there ya go, I also think he will sign a new contract on more money and stay another season.id prefer we cashed in if he really dosnt want to be here.
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No chance he is signing new contract if you watched the match today you would have seen that off the ball he was not interested at all he clearly does not want to be there he has made it very clear for all to see and hear its a waiting game for real madrid to come up with 50 million you will see it happen this week coming as Liverpool have fullfilled there obligations by bringing there stars on tour, if Liverpool sell to arsenal we are resigned to mid table .i am sure b.r is sick of his attitude on this tour and it can only be effecting the moral of the team.
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Still wouldn't take it, £65m from that mob after that £40m + £1 stunt.
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One thing I think you can be sure of. RM will not pay 50m for LS. They know Liverpool would rather he went to RM rather then Arsenal so they will pay the bare 40m
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Totally agree his behaviour in Melbourne was disgraceful {Ed030's Note - And today,He strolled around. }
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Yeah I would have loved him to stay but he is looking more and more like the rat Torres in his last games for us no interest and will be like that all season unless we get shut
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Suarez failed his medical at Arsenal.
He walked past the trophy case and it turns out he's allergic to dust.
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28 Jul 2013 13:59:05
Player linked with Liverpool this week, any of them actual targets?
Lucas Piazon
Jackson Martinez
Roberts Soldado
Christian Astu
Ryan Bertrand
Etienne Capoue
Mamadou Sakho
Alli Cissokho
Guilherme Siqueira
Christian Eriksen
Bernard
Toby Alderwiereld
Tiago Ilori
Kyriakos Papadopolous
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Cissokho the most likely, Ilori a possibility if we get anywhere near matching Sportings valuation. The rest either highly unlikely or players we do not hold an interest in. - My source - the editors updates to the same questions every single day.
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Hopefully things will step up now the team are heading home. Seems defenders aren't high on priorities following BR's comments so expect a winger and possibly a striker.
Obviously all depends on the Suarez situation but as I said before no ned for clubs to rush as he still has 6 game ban and likely to expect 150g per wk so who wants to pay a million quid in wages before he can kick a ball.
Personally would like the two Ajax players for 25 and then go in for cabeye and benarfa as I reckon they could be bought for 20
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Would love Bernard to be true. Atletico would be interested in Coates too.
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Martinez-no chance
Astu-not good enough
Bertrand-no
Eriksen-we've dropped interest
Bernard-too much
Ilori-Liverpool won't go up to the asking price
Papp-again to much
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28 Jul 2013 19:50:55
Agree. He only signed a new contract last summer. Why should we spend more money on increased wages and signing fees to keep someone who doesn't want to be here. Keep money and use it toward a new signing or boost up someone like Aggers wages to make sure we keep him. Get rid of the rat now.
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Simple-
Lucas Piazon- no
Jackson Martinez- No but I would like to see him for Depth
Roberts Soldado- Sold to Spurs
Christian Astu- Not coming to LFC
Ryan Bertrand- Cfc won't sell another to LFC.
Etienne Capoue- No
Mamadou Sakho- Not Likely like 10% chance
Alli Cissokho- Probable
Guilherme Siqueira- Maybe, less likely to happen
Christian Eriksen- Woudl love to see him, but Milan will sign in few days.
Bernard- Off to Porto
Toby Alderwiereld- Great addition, but need to bid.
Tiago Ilori- not going to happen.
Kyriakos Papadopolous- Maybe, just Schalke want too much money. we are 7 mil apart on value right now.
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What no Turan links this week?
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28 Jul 2013 12:40:42
Have it under good authority that Liverpool have a couple of medicals booked in for next week. Sorry don't know who the players are but guessing one of them is Cissoko.
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Ive also heard this can't wait for this week now its going to be exciting that's for sure
Nick from Birmingham
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Hope its true, we need them now, so they can play a bit with the team before the season starts.
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I don't know how they do with medicals, but do they really need to book a medical if everything they need for a medical is already with the club, if u get what i'm saying? does the club really need to book a medical? honest question here.
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Makes sense seen as the LFC doc is on tour with lads and they are back in the UK tomorrow!
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29 Jul 2013 02:00:21
Cissokho is not going to happen.
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28 Jul 2013 12:05:36
Rumours from the Middle East are that Sheik Khalifa bin Zayed Al Nahayan of the UAE is considering making an offer of £450 million for Liverpool FC. The Sheik wanted to buy the club 3 years ago but failed to negotiate a deal with former owners H&G. It is said that it is a fair price for the true value of the club. If FSG will accept the offer is something no one can tell. Only time will tell. But, despite the denial from FSG (what is normal, only to get the best price) for selling the club, I can inform you that if the right offer arrives, FSG seriously will consider it.
As long as that won't be the case, they will go further with the plans they have for the club.
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The big problem is if we get taken over by an oil rich Sheikh it will do more damage then good as we have worked very hard to sort out our academy and bring through players but that would all change if we were taken over as we would have money available to buy and offer silly wages, and personally weather it takes us another 5 years to win the epl and challenge for top honors i'd rather trust the youth.
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Isn't he the president of UAE?
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Lets remember everything and everyone as a price.
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Are you mental rush was saw good and Fowler was at the end of a injury plagued career
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If its true needs to be done quickly so he can give Rodgers big money to spend before the window closes. I would prefer if he bought 50% invested some money and then left fsg to carry on with their plans, commercial, marketing etc
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This could be a good thing and a not so good thing for us.
Teams that get bought over always go through change and try and buy every player and his dog. So my point is we r doing well and Rogders has us playing good football would anybody want that change I know we would compete financially with other teams but does that matter with FFP rule coming in soon anyway
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The name mentioned is the president of the UAE so can't see him buying the club.
But I have heard FSG are willing to sell but only to someone they believe will take the club foward and they will want around £420million as that is the amount they have spent on the club.
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100% guarantee that this is not true. LFC lost out on their only chance to have backers from the UAE when they walked away from the DIC offer in favour of Hicks and Gillette. The UAE rulers will not go into direct competition with one another and thereby whilst Sheik Mansour owns MCFC no other clubs will be bought be UAE rulers. Shame when you think of it because had we got in first MCFC would not have the backing of Sheik Mansour now.
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If he gets in before tranfer window shuts he will give us 150m to spend on players 3-4 world class players plus the youth can still come through no reason if there good enough. I say if true get him in. Fabrigas Sanchez Papadopoulos J Martinez could sway Suarez to stay! Get champions league and nab Bale and Messi next year! to go with the mother of all upgrades to Anfield stadium.
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He is the President and also the brother of Sheikh Mansour who owns City, wonder how that would play out in the Zayed house hold.
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Hope its true. one of the reasons we have trouble with getting the biggest starts now is our new wage policy, stars know they can make bigger money elsewhere, so why go to us if we won't give them the right wage.
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I believe that this rumour, if true, would be a way forward, given how important money has now become in the European market. However, there is no way that a deal of this magnitude, with all the due diligence that would be required, could be concluded before the end of this window. Also, I do not believe there is any way that Sheik Khalifa would be prepared to work in partnership with the current muppets. Firstly, he would require at least a controlling interest and this is something FSG would not find acceptable. And, secondly, having witnessed FSG's feeble efforts what could they bring to the party that would be more effective than the sort of first class management team that Sheik Khalifa would recruit. I believe that it would be the end of the road for the current management team. They would be replaced by real heavyweights.
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It won't matter anytime soon even if it is true. The sale wouldn't be complete before the end of this window anyway.
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To the poster above who mentioned DIC, pretty sure that company went bust due to its business model of over leveraging - the practice employed by h&g.
We would have conceivably been in a worse state if we had gone down that route.
I am happy with the direction we are going, though like every other poster, would like success sooner rather than later. But not at the expense of the long term future stability of the club.
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Oh great. You lot are crazy! Someone mentions a billionaire taking over and half of you are saying get it done quick, spend the money, buy world class etc etc!
Come on! Are you serious? It would be an awful mistake and while we maybe can't compete money wise to 3-4 of the top teams I would like to think we can get top 4 spot and attract world class players more easily than having to pay well over the odds so our season ticket goes way up, players we have will only care about money, plus we will never make it to the top the hard but proper way!
Get results, attract better players and then win titles, but with the added bonus of being able to say we did it without a billionaire backing us
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I think our model is based on that of dortmund, spend wisely on talented youth, its worked out quite nicely for them, bide your time people, I think we're going in the right direction!
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We already have probably the highest priced season tickets outside of London. In some cases double and triple the amount teams who are going to play in exactly the same competitions we are in. With Man City going over 100 million this window on top of what they have spent, FFP means nothing. This Sheik bloke is reportedly worth 150 billion. Sooner the better and resurrect that awesome brand new stadium we had planned.
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The interest is not from UAE but from Saudia Arabia (Saudi Aramco) one of the biggest oil producers in the world. {Ed030's Note - I doubt that mate,They are worth trillions,I wouldn't want them anyway. }
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If it was true it does not mean the new owners would have to spend like City or Chelsea . They could still follow the model of buying players but at reasonable prices and not be held to extortion .
Also to keep the brilliant youth policy we have .
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There is absolutely no truth in this and if there were, it would be blocked by the FA - sheik khalifa is skeik mansours father - contrary to pop opinion. the MCFC takeover was funded by the UAE soverign fund, which is controlled by an organisation called Mubadala - (their chairman is khaldoon al mubarak who is also chairman of MCFC) - any purchase of LFC would also be funded through the soverign fund, leaving both clubs owned/contolled by largely the same organisation.
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Cant believe some of people on here are L.P supporters
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Sheik Khalifa bin Zayed Al Nahaya looked at the club in 2010 . weather or not there remains any interest from him is unknown and doubtful. His brother who is slightly less wealthy is the current owner of Man cith .
It is also belived that he was the middle eastern investor that the Glazers turned down when a bid was made for Man u .
I think this story is recycled I for one would rather earn a title than buy it . That said I would like to see some investment in the club . do you think city or Chavski will be in any kind of shape when FFP is in full effect or if there wealthy owners leave them . we are building well for long term sustainability . Like the people of the city that gives our great club its name we work for what we have we graft and fight and eventually we will have our glory back
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28 Jul 2013 11:35:37
Stories that some of the senior players have suggested that Torres be bought back from Chelsea should Suarez depart. Bad move if it happened in my opinion, Rush was never the same and neither was God.
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I would suggest that Torres is not part of Mourinho's plans. He played ok in conf cup, seems to be fit. People seem to have forgotten about sturridge, he will be back in a few weeks.
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28 Jul 2013 16:27:09
Honestly wouldn't pay more than 10 million for him at this moment in time
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28 Jul 2013 18:24:44
So you want to swap one treacherous traitorous barsterd for another? Forget Torres and get shut of Suarez and move on. can't see after the way he bailed on us before why people would be so quick to consider having him back. You forget too easily. Plus, its never going to happen so let it go.
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What about owen, fowler, they have played for other clubs, torres is a better player than owen & fowler
put together!!
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Two words to those who dismiss the abilities of Fernando Torres - "World Class". We all know that at the time of departure he was depressed, struggled for form, and the club was falling apart around him. It has taken the best part of two years to return to form but he is just about there. Now is the time to strike. Regardless of his undoubted talent, Suarez cut a sorry figure on the bench on Sunday, a sulking individual, dummy spat out and now lost, time to move on. Swing open the door and encourage the departure of Coates, Spearing, Downing, Allen, Assaidi and anyone else that can't cut the mustard. Get the scouts off their backsides to find the replacement for Gerrard and sort out that backline that has been found wanting on too many occasions. Start the season with hope in your hearts, get early wins under the belt, and exude confidence. Not many teams can boast the talent of Coutinho, Sturridge, Sterling, Ibe, Gerrard & Co. come on you reds.
Bring 'em on.
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Torres coming back would be a great coup if the price was right.
Everybody knows his wife and family loved the City and would come back in a shot.
However he would need to make some sort of statement about how much he missed us etc to make good what has happened before.
We are running a football club though and want the best players not a childrens playground where people keep hold of feuds forever.
If BR thinks he can improve us then that is all that matters.
At his best he is the best CF in the PL by a mile.
Simple as that really.
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28 Jul 2013 01:24:35
Eds, Surly Abel Hernandez is too good to be playing in Serie B, do you know of any interest in him or will he stay at Palermo?
RRed {Ed002's Note - There has been some interest, but not from Liverpool.}
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If Abel Hernandez is SURLY that might explain why he's down in Serie B!
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