Liverpool Rumours Archive August 25 2013

25 Aug 2013 22:47:09
According to The Times, we've made a loan bid for Victor Moses. Do we have no money, Eds? This is pretty underwhelming. Thanks.

Well, LFC has negative money if that helps answer the question?

If true seems sensible to me, don't really see any available wingers who rodgers may see as a willian(esk) type player due to missed targets, moses is a player who could really step up if he can add goals. don't see much point at throwing money at maybe players from other leagues. Maybe add a at dm

I have to say, if Moses is the best we can do, it is indeed pretty underwhelming.

Made a bid for HM and were after Willian, are you really asking if there is money?

It's this new thing called back-up plan except Brendan's going to use it as an excuse for not signing a first choice left winger

FSG won't give any more over it appears!

Ithink its pretty smart, get a hungry young player eager to prove himself

hes a different option to our other wide players

Ed, what is going on with FSG? So are they not impressed? 6pts out of 6? Why can't they support the manager after the transfer dealings have fetched surplus while the wages have been trimmed? Team like Liverpool need Top quality players and loan deals cannot bring them on board. FSG must not think about only profit because Liverpool made its name by winning trophies. {Ed002's Note - FSG are responsible owners and have been very supportive. The club has played well all season. I remain astonished at the constant bleating from the so-called fans. I fear Liverpool winning the league this season for the fans complaining about the trophy "It's only fucking silver, we is Liverpool and we deserve gold". I added the punctuation and corrected the spelling for the purposes of readability.}

26 Aug 2013 02:23:48
Wish people wouldn't judge brendans signings if there not £25-£30m, toure = free, sturridge = £12m couthino = £8m, who ever we sign, can we not just trust our managers judgement? Its squeeky bum time, in regards to time left in window, and I'll be happy to get any 1 in! Seriously we need re-inforcements badly, coates is out for the season, we haven't a 3rd choice goalkeeper, we are yet to replace downing, and even the u21 squad is very young, and if we get any serious injuries, it will hinder us so badly, if ya's look at the mancs, citys, chelski, gooners and even spuds squad compared to ours, well I don't know how fsg and even us as fans can expect to finish in top4, yes we will try are hardest and brendan and all the staff will work miracles, but like I said, if we have any bad injuries we will be completely F*CK*D! But it doesn't mean I am throwing the towell in, just trying to get realistic on our squad size!

I have to say Ed002 you can sometimes come off as a @&?! But in this scenario I'm starting to see why. You're spot on, tired of the whiners, money doesn't grow on teams.

People need to get in the real world. We have the money as it shows in the players we have moved for, we are just not in a attractive position at the moment. We have to have realistic targets to get us to where we need to be, then the big signings will come. It's going to be tough the way others are spending.

I just keep thinking about the moeny when spent on players like downing and carroll and even henderson, and now we are struggling to spend big on world class players

No name poster.
You would like us to spend 1-2m on a 3rd choice keeper on say 35k per week on a 3 year contract and he will play no games and make the bench 4 times. You will then whine that he (like Doni, Cavalieri, Arphexad and the rest) are draining resources.
It's been explained that a combination of Aspas, Sterling & Ibe is more than sufficient cover for Downing.
We need one CB to replace Coates and allow Wisdom on loan.
We would like a faster, more penetrative replacement for Assaidi top left. It ONLY becomes a 20m plus spend if Suarez is leaving.
So a loan signing on the left makes sense as it probably means we are keeping LS.
If Ilori & Moses on loan are the only signings we make the depth of squad argument really is as simple as: is Ilori more suited to our style and therefore more effective than Coates? Is Moses likely to score/assist more than Assaidi? The bar is set pretty low so Tiago & Victor would be pushing at an open door.

Easy for you to say Ed002. In recent times, Being a chelsea fan has meant there's no need to worry about the acquisition of quality footballers. We 'so called' fans are bleating that we are getting left behind. Oh and I don't mean behind chelsea Manchester United or Man city! I mean Arsenal and Tottenham. i'd say that's a realistic ambition for us fans to 'bleat' about? All we want are for players to come in who improve the First team. i.e for FSG to back their manager! {Ed002's Note - Liverpool has been in the top ten spending clubs world-wide year-on-year for many years. In England, Liverpool has always been up there in the top three or four spending clubs. It could not be sustained - I have explained this repeatedly. FSG has backed the manager. People go on about how great the youngsters are but how many want to see Kelly or Wisdom given a chance as fourth choice centre back - pretty much no one whilst Sakho is available (another €20M please FSG).}

I'm not saying the board aren't attempting to support the manager, they bid on HM only to lose out to Dortmund, which is fair enough, then to try for Willian, if we had offered what Chelsea and Spurs offered then I'd have been disappointed as its a lot of money for a player unproven at the highest level and quite frankly they made the right stance regarding the agents fees.
I'd only be disappointed if we signed Moses as he just isn't very good and is no better than Downing, I'm pretty sure there are better players available than that!

People need to quit complaining. FSG are backing the manager and restructuring the wages in a sensible way. Dalglish unfortunately wasted an incredible amount of money and we need to sustain ourselves.

As for Moses, he's still young and extremely talented. Quick, great touch, and strong, just needs to add goals, as do most of the midfielders in the league. Remember people whining about the potential Sturridge signing the exact same way. It's not all about the stats. Wake up and get behind your club.

People talk about the likes of Chelsea, Man City etc and the money they spend on players.

What will happen when the owners get fed up of these clubs and decide to get shut just like Anzhi? Chelsea have a net cost of £618, 165.000 since the 94/95 season, Man City stand at £564, 927,000 Manchester United £229, 810.000 and Liverpool @262, 335.000 so Liverpool are in comparison to Manchester United for spends.

FSG are looking long term, you construct something you start from the bottom and build up just what is happening an improvement all ready on the start we got last season, get behind the team and FSG and stop slagging them off, if you can’t piss off to the Manchester United pages and let us get on with what were doing.

YNWA {Ed002's Note - Chelsea's owner is one of the longest serving in the Premier League so I doubt that is a major concern for anyone. Manchester City's owners have been around longer than FSG. Whilst FSG are very good responsible owners, there is a ground-swell of "fans" who want them out and one of those nice sugar-daddy owners in.}

26 Aug 2013 11:52:12
Isn't he one of those Nigerian players whose age no-one is 100% sure of ed? I'm sure I remember his name coming up in that discussion. {Ed002's Note - There was some question when he was at Crystal Palace but I don't think anyone has any issues right now.}

Underwhelming? Moses is nowhere near as bad as our fans are making out. I recall the abuse Daniel Sturridge was given on various LFC sites before he signed and proved countless "experts" wrong. If he comes to Anfield, hopefully Moses will do likewise. Aquilani, Downing, Carroll and countless others cost a fortune and were all expensive failures. Sturridge and Coutinho are proof that quality players are available at the right price.

Im with marty

27 Aug 2013 00:46:09
@ kidder so say mignolet gets a serious injury, we will have jones and danny ward, we have let gulasci go, jones is ok for the odd 1 or 2 games, but ward hasn't even played much for u21, I, m not saying spend £1 or £2m or pay £35.000 a week, they were your words not mine, but maybe a de vries type, no transfer fee, and maybe £7-10 grand a week, I really hope no one gets injured but what if it does, just a point of view kidda!

Herbz (no name poster)

25 Aug 2013 18:58:08
Liverpool will struggle to sign Arda Turan, there is interest from us but I've been told we will not match the release clause (€24m).

It's a shame as I truly believe he is the attacker we need.

We will not bid for him at all. I doubt there is even any Interest at all or not enough for us to bid. IMO we will look for a defender but we won't get the attacking player that we soooo badly need. We have to work with what we have.

Iv been watching him tonight he looks great and I don't see a lack of pace he dusted the rayo backline on numerous times he's looked a great player tonight I just don't think we will bid at all nevermind bidding low I wish we would he looks a top player and costa too weren't athletico interested in saurez offer them a swap costa and arda for saurez and relax I know it won't happen be nice if it did I can wish lool

Wish all you like THAT wish is a gonner! That's a gonner not a Gooner.

Shocker!

25 Aug 2013 17:15:35
With Real buying Bale, a player we've been linked with in the past along with Arsenal will prob be available Angel di Maria. Surely they would like to get rid to pay for some of that Bale money so my question is do you think it's a possibility and is he good enough? I don't watch any Spanish football. Thanks. {Ed002's Note - Di Maria was offered to PSG as part of a package with another Real Madrid player and he was at one point offered as bait for either Bale - but had no interest in a move to Spurs. If Real Madrid lose out on Bale they will move for Silva and include Di Maria in the deal, but that is now unlikely. His agent also approached both Manchester United and Chelsea and I am told that the player would not object to a move to Italy should the opportunity arise. A €20M offer for Di Maria from PSG was rejected. Arsenal approached Real Madrid about Di Maria and Benzema but Benzema is keen to stay at Real Madrid (although they would like to sell). There is a very real chance of an offer from Arsenal being made in the last week of the window, but it will need to be around €30M to be acceptable.}

Thanks.

28 Aug 2013 18:20:37
this is my first post and I would be happy with griezman and ayew for wingers

25 Aug 2013 12:43:41
Roma have offered £6m for YILMAZ, Galatasaray want £12m. I think Liverpool should look at him at that price, if we could get him for £9-10m it would be really good business. {Ed002's Note - I explained the situation with Liverpool's interest in Yilmaz and of course it kicked off problems. There is an update to that in respect of Liverpool but I am not going to give any detail. I can say you can forget about a move for him to Anfield now.}

A pity but realistically given his age I personally never saw it as being particularly likely that he would join us. {Ed002's Note - It was not his age that stopped the interest.}

Its a shame a few (insert insult) spoil it for the majority of people who ask or post on here Ed002 knowledge of the game and its ins and outs must be nearing on legendary status only been wrong once in the 4 years iv been using this site best strike rate arround I still shudder thinking before I found this site I used lots of others but mainly a web site I was deluded using that site lol but great work is done on here keep it up Edds

25 Aug 2013 08:21:36
Being reported that Ljajic could be available for 10 million or do we wait until next season when he can go on a free. That is if we are interested at all.

{Ed002's Note - Ljajic is certainly available and certainly trying to engineer a move out of Fiorentina. An expected move to Milan for Ljajic failed to be completed and whilst Torino and Atletico Madrid were still pushing for the player, I would suspect something will still happen with Milan, or with Roma if Lamela moves on. A new contract with Fiorentina was rejected on August 23 and Atletico has immediately turned their attentions to Eriksen after being told that the player will move to Roma or Milan. This will likely run until close to the end of the window.}

Ed what kind of player is Ljajic? never heard of him {Ed002's Note - He falls in to the same category as Pjanic and Eriksen - and to a certain extent it is the same clubs looking at all three players.}

Thanks for the info ED002 very informative as usual.