Liverpool Rumours Archive July 22 2020

 

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22 Jul 2020 15:36:55
ed002 is there any news on Adrian there was talk of somebody having interest in him a bit back. He did ok for us but nothing special seems a good way to free up a HG place in the squad. Am not sure how the 2 young keepers have done I know Kamil Grabara has been on loan I think he has done ok so am sure he could take Adrian's place or do you think he is better of on loan playing more football.

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{Ed002's Note - The interest was from Real Betis but they wanted him released from the last year of this contract. Liverpool have not shown any intention to do that. The kids have done well I understand.}

22 Jul 2020 17:25:26
ed002 do you think they would be better off on loan then rather than just sitting on the bench playing the odd cup match.

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{Ed002's Note - The kids would have to provide an option for the first team and cover the Under 23s who play in PL2 - so one could go on loan. The others:
Shamal George (G) Gone
Loris Karius (G) Liverpool find him back on the doorstep and will need to find a solution - perhaps a reduced price and an early exit - CSKA and Hertha Berlin offer opportunities - does not wish to return to Turkey although there is interest from there. With Boeckx getting toward the end of his career and Roef's departure this summer already agreed Anderlecht would like him to challenge first choice Van Crombrugge. Wolves need cover, but Karius would not be first choice there - and regular playing time is what he will be after.}
Andy Lonergan (G) out of contract - could stay if Adrian leaves
Adrian (G) has a year to run on his contract but Real Betis would like Liverpool to release him for free this summer - but the club would prefer him to stay - and I expect him the stay

Liverpool have added a well thought of kiddie in Fabian Mrozek (GK).

22 Jul 2020 17:53:22
That’s the third polish keeper we will have.

I would expect Keheller and Grabara to go out on loan for the year.

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22 Jul 2020 23:43:26
Montpellier are also interested in Karius according to the BBC.

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22 Jul 2020 23:56:16
I'd definately think it's best to get the youngsters out where they can play regularly for a season and use an experienced keeper as back up. If the likes of grabara or kelliher were thrown into action immediately and for a couple of months like start of this season the pressure may be too much if a mistake or 2 were made as they are not ready yet to perform under that expectancy. Look at courtois and Dean Henderson who's careers have kicked on after a couple of years on loan instead of spending that time behind de gea and Petr cech just like our current keepers who won't play ahead of Allison.

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23 Jul 2020 20:03:35
Har_red92 I don't think you can that about Courtois he was playing top class football before he went back Chelsea with A Madrid.

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25 Jul 2020 04:00:10
That was my point, Chelsea let him develop by playing regularly at atletico Madrid as a youngster and it was that period on loan which made him improve drastically from prospect to top quality. Young GKs need to play regularly to have the best chance of lifting their game to being no.1 instead of wasting years as no.2 to top rated GKs.

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22 Jul 2020 15:04:04
Liverpool have offered €24m for thiago, bayern won't accept anything less than €35m, this one will take time, but full agreement with plauyer and agent over wages and he is 100% on board.

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22 Jul 2020 15:18:17
Meet in middle at 30m then I reckon.

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22 Jul 2020 15:40:38
Where we getting this money from?

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22 Jul 2020 15:40:40
We haven’t offered anything. Not happening.

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22 Jul 2020 15:51:42
Klopp is apparently very keen on him as I heard from a source. He wouldn’t want this to happen like Werner. He would love to work with him. This could end the spell of Wijnaldum.

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22 Jul 2020 15:54:10
Where’s the money coming from, the magic money tree? Literally a transfer that makes no sense. If we’re not going to buy the most prolific German goal scorer in the Bundesliga for relatively low fee then we’re not going to buy an over the hill Spanish International with Injury issues for £30m.

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22 Jul 2020 15:59:19
Agreed 6Times it’s a non starter. Harry you have sources now do you lol, what ever next.

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22 Jul 2020 16:15:39
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It’s not about the overall fee! It’s more to do with the structure. With Werner RBL was adamant about the fee and he had many suitors. Thiago is not very young and who knows what Bayern would want upfront.

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22 Jul 2020 17:13:09
There will be a new adapted style/ tactics next season as it appears we have kind of been 'found out' in as much as, stopping our FB's seriously snookers us. In respect of that i imagine that Thiago is going to be part of a new option/ system, should he be brought in, and i trust JK and the coaches more than any internet warrior.

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22 Jul 2020 20:27:56
There is certainly question marks over Thiago but he’s certainly not over the hill.

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22 Jul 2020 21:26:28
This would make no sense. More likely to go to city with pep and with silva leaving.

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23 Jul 2020 00:05:23
What doesn't make sense about buying a world class midfielder that the inevitable sales of just one of grujic or Wilson easily make back. Add lovren, karius, shaqiri and maybe Origi and 25-30mil investment in thiago is certainly a step up in quality over our outgoings. For a player who most journalists included in bundesliga team of the season I really question those of you under the impression he's finished.

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23 Jul 2020 01:38:04
Spaceman in what world have we been found out? We are 18 Pts clear and won the league with 7 games to go.
The front 3 haven’t been taking their chances since we won the league and the 2 CB have been sleeping so we’ve dropped points.
Nothing to do with being found out at all.

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23 Jul 2020 01:44:46
Even though I don't think this will happen. The money will come from players sales. With Alcantara being injury prone, we paid more for Ox and he is no way good as Thiago. However, Ox is a lot younger too.

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23 Jul 2020 08:22:43
Milner will leave so he will replace him.

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23 Jul 2020 08:23:09
People need to stop using the"we didn't buy werner so we won't be buying x player, or y player! Werner went right at the start of the summer, when the club wudnt have known what was going to happen in the market.

For all we know, offers have come in for players we'd be willing to sell that would cover the Thiago fee. Not buying Werner doesn't even mean we don't want to buy a certain player in the market in even the £70-80m range . it just means that out of Werner and that certain player, we want the other player more! unlikely I admit, but so was VVD and Allison😂.

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23 Jul 2020 16:31:00
I'm sure they can agree a payment structure. Werner was cash up front to buy out his clause.

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25 Jul 2020 04:17:56
Also Werner fee close to 50mil while we thiago deal might be possible for 25mill, it's not comparable when the fees aren't even close. Plus thiago would be considered as a player to instantly compete for a starting spot and slot into first 11 if he performs to his ability.

On the other hand Werner would cost double and come in as a player who wouldn't start in our attack currently if our front 3 continue playing as the have consistently for 3 full seasons. 50mil for excellent back up or 25mil for likely starter in a summer where our dealings need to be shrewd.

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22 Jul 2020 13:47:36
Ed any fresh interest in chiesa I know he was looked at and priced past year or two so any chance we try to get him this window he would be perfect plays both wings and I think he has 2 y on contract he fits everything even age.

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{Ed002's Note - Not from Liverpool.}

22 Jul 2020 05:13:33
Hello Ed's and reds any info has GINI wijnaldum offered new contract and if he not sign will club look to sell or keep him (if he made available any club interested in him) . I really hope he stays.

Thanks all the Ed's for their relentless work to appease us non stop even with our random and repetitive question.

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{Ed002's Note - With little budget to replace Wijnaldum and with Liverpool not looking to keep Grujic I would expect him to extend his contract at Liverpool. Once the season is over I am sure the club will be talking with him.}

22 Jul 2020 08:42:36
Imo it would be wise enough to keep Grujic (younger, more hungrier, less wages, want to prove a point, decent resale value, successful loan) and sell Wijnaldum. Anything you receive should go into the signing of a good left back cover. It’s not like we are utterly dependent on Wijnaldum.

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22 Jul 2020 09:29:29
I thought Naby Keita was our left back cover, Harry?

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22 Jul 2020 10:34:18
Bullseye. 🎯.

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22 Jul 2020 10:41:57
As eds has said many times keeping keeping Grujic would take up a a HG place in the team!

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22 Jul 2020 11:51:59
That would weaken us, grujic has never been involved over a season with ideas klopp has instilled in this team, gini has and is a vital cog in how we function, he's also a large step above grujic in quality and realistically selling grujic could likely bring in more money. Why risk bleeding in a new untried player to replace an experienced proven hard working important player who is top quality, and still has a few years left in his tank to continue his level. Should city look to move on De bruyne or Chelsea replace Kante as both are same age. I'd hate to see issues with gini contract as with only a year remaining we would be forced to lose him for a lot less than his worth to us. Let's not take him for granted simply because he doesn't stand out and excite when doing his disciplined job.

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22 Jul 2020 11:59:11
There’s a world of difference between Grujic and Wijnaldum not least that Grujic is unproven in the PL and lacks big game experience. Gini starts most games - I wouldn’t be too confident going into next season with Grujic replacing him.

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{Ed002's Note - Grujic is a very good player and has a great deal of good experience in Germany. If Liverpool are not going to bring players through they may as well just cherry pick one or two youngsters, scrap the loan system and sell the rest on each year.}

22 Jul 2020 12:09:43
the only way to gain experience is to be given the opportunity.

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22 Jul 2020 12:56:07
Grujic needs to be given a chance in our team. He was given promises when he moved to us and we need to deliver on them.

He has shown in pre seasons to being a good player and has first team experience in Germany. He could well be a very good replacement for Hendo in the future.

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22 Jul 2020 12:56:23
Stone, the comment above was about replacing Gini with Grujic. I assume you would be equally happy to sell Salah and bring Brewster in?

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22 Jul 2020 14:22:25
The biggest issue is going to be the HG quota I think. The issue is not replacing Wijnaldum with Grujic (both non-HG) , but to see how to replace the departures of Clyne and Lallana (both HG) from the squad. Fix the HG quota first, and then see how Wijnaldum and Grujic fit in, into the squad. I'm for keeping both Wijnaldum and Grujic (work permit permitting), but solving the HG puzzle comes first.

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22 Jul 2020 17:09:09
IDREAM, you are missing the point. I said no such thing. I was just stating that he needs to be given opportunities in order to gain experience. No hidden meaning and not a call to replace Gini.

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22 Jul 2020 21:29:38
Wijnuldum most underrated player in the team.

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23 Jul 2020 00:48:12
Fair enough, Stone, and i agree with you that kids need game time. The suggestion above that Grujic replaces Wijnaldum is a risky idea, in my opinon.

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23 Jul 2020 12:24:49
cheers idream. sorry for the misunderstanding.

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23 Jul 2020 19:39:41
1. Resign Wijnaldum
2. Sell Grujic
3. Give Jones more opportunities.
4. PROFIT.

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25 Jul 2020 04:38:34
So many players this season though have come back from successful loans and not kicked on. Lookman never looked like Everton was right for him, reiss Nelson not getting a sniff for arsenal, angelino for city, perreira for United all looked great last season but just not showed to be able to fit into their clubs.

Klopp might see Wilson and grujic as these similar players not suited to us just like he's shown with Kent or Danny ward who were rightly moved on despite having good previous loans.

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22 Jul 2020 02:37:54
ED002

Hope you're well!

Now that it's been noted that 40% of the public can attend EPL games next season instead of zero as first feared, do you see Liverpool going in for a priority signing of Klopps. FYI - Diego Carlos
Wlove to get your thoughts if you think Sevilla would be willing to drop the price set for Diego considerably, are the club in need of funds? Do they need to sell to buy? Could we get a C.V. discount from them. what price could u see this deal getting done?

Much appreciated
Thomas Tolevski.

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{Ed002's Note - Having some people attend games for a while next season will not make any difference to what happens this summer in respect of transfers.

Diego Carlos (CB) Manchester City had dropped their interest and were looking at others but the age and prices being asked for other players have made them look again as they seek two CBs this summer. Real Madrid has a sustained interest but the focus will be getting through the summer with more income from sales than purchases and cutting the squad down - that means their two main priority signings have been delayed to next year. Unless players can be included in the deal, it is most unlikely this summer. Barcelona have Diego Carlos on their list of CBs but money is going to be an issue this summer and they will look to horse trade using Ivan Rakitic and perhaps others. Priority is, like Real Madrid, to make sure they address financial issues first. Liverpool has declared an interest in taking DC in the summer. If this happens, I would think it would be the big move for the club this summer and would leave Gomez picking up pieces across the defence. May be viable for Liverpool to include Xherdan Shaqiri in a deal although Seville are looking at other options to Shaqiri now. Spurs' interest will be constrained by a lack of funds and other priorities. Unless there are significant sales or a player forming part of the deal, it is very unlikely.}

 
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